Joe Biden: Vote For Obama Because He’s Black

Democrat identity politics laid bare. Don’t vote for Obama because he’s the best leader. Vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.

“Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigning in North Carolina where black votes could help swing the state to the Democrats, said today that electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.
Biden said the policies of running mate Barack Obama make his presidency even more urgent and declared this to be the most important election that any living person has seen in their lifetime. But he particularly singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black.
“That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”

Would it be right if I said it was significant to vote for John McCain because he’s white? Or because he’s male?
How about Sarah Palin? Should we vote for her because she’s a woman?
Here’s an idea: How about we vote for the best person for the job because of their ideas, experience and character and leave skin color out of it? Or should we just go along with Joe Biden and his fellow Democrats and elect Barack Obama as the nation’s first affirmative action President?

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  • http://Array Hannitized

    HG,

    I don’t think God has any interest in attaching his name to any bomb that may fall on innocent women, children and men who lived a peaceful life.

    I don’t think God wants to be apart of any war that would bring al qaida to where it was not once before.

    I think Mark Twain said it best:

    “You have heard your servant’s prayer–the uttered part
    of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other
    part of it–that part which the pastor–and also you in your hearts-
    -fervently prayed silently. And ignorantlyy and unthinkingly?
    God grant that it was so! You heard these words: ‘Grant us the
    victory, O Lord our God!’ That is sufficient. the *whole* of
    the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words.
    Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for
    victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which
    follow victory–*must* follow it, cannot help but follow it.
    Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of
    the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

    “O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our
    hearts, go forth to battle–be Thou near them! With them–in
    spirit–we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved
    firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their
    soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their
    smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us
    to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their
    wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble
    homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of
    their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn
    them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the
    wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst,
    sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter,
    broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge
    of the grave and denied it–for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord,
    blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter
    pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their
    tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!
    We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of
    Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that
    are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts.
    Amen.

    (*After a pause.*) “Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire
    it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!”

    It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic,
    because there was no sense in what he said.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Sorry, I was referring to a link from your name. We had discussed this word before and I thought you might comment on its use here. To imply that one should vote for a person based on skin complexion is racism.

  • HG

    “That all by itself will be significant.”

  • HG

    H, your link isn’t showing a video in my browser. Can you link to the youtube version or a transcript? I’m curious to see if it is the same speech sourced in the AP article.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits & capacities & that racial differences produce an inherent superiority. People with racist beliefs might Hate certain groups and try to create threats against someone because of their race. I don’t expect Hannitized to understand what I have been saying. Nor will I think for a moment that he will not come back with a comment that tries to portray me as racist because of the actions of the Racist individuals that made threats against many teachers and Principals that I gave as examples. IF he feels the need to vote for Obama just because he is half black so be it. Personally, I refuse to vote for anyone because of their race alone. Obama is to the left of Bernie Sanders who is a self proclaimed Socialist and so is Biden. Obviously Hannitized is into that!

  • Hannitized

    Zsa Zsa explains:

    People with racist beliefs might Hate certain groups and try to create threats against someone because of their race. I don’t expect Hannitized to understand what I have been saying.

    People with racist beliefs might do a lot of things Zsa Zsa, like accuse others of voting for a black man because he is black.

    Or maybe people with racists beliefs might falsely accuse others of threatening them.

    You have demonstrated a lot of racism by you ignorant remarks. You just don’t realize it.

    Personally, I think you are simply an idiot and you can’t comprehend the complexity of the issue.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Simple Roast Squirrel

    ~ 1 squirrel per person, cleaned
    ~ favorite seasonings
    ~ medium onions, chunked, 1 per squirrel

    Place onions evenly in a greased roasting pan.

    Season squirrel(s) to taste inside and out with your favorite seasonings.

    Place squirrel(s) on top of onions.

    Cover with foil and bake at 400 degrees for 30 minutes or until done.

    Remove foil and cook 10 minutes to brown meat. Turn halfway through.

    Serve and enjoy.

  • http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

    Hey Hannitized, Palin was quoting Lincoln

    What do you have against Lincoln, anyway?

  • Hannitized

    Rob spins:

    I see you could not provide the quote. Therefore, you have been proven a liar and further, I challenge you to put the quote you twisted into proper context by quoting the entire paragraph.

    What does that mean if not “vote for Obama because he’s black.” If being black is, all by itself, a significant reason to vote for Obama…what else is Biden saying?

    Um…it means voting for him will be transformative all by itself. It is a result of electing someone. It is not a statement that says that is why you should vote for someone.

    You are just lying now.

    And that argument works for Sarah Palin too, you moron.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Oh Yeeeeeea, that’s right! Obama has plans for Hope & Change? AND what are those plans? To make the USA into a Socialist Country? To have the Federal Government interfere in all aspects of our lives? What a lovely plan!

  • Bat One

    Hey Hannitized, Palin was quoting Lincoln. What do you have against Lincoln, anyway?

    No she wasn’t.

    If Ken changes his comment to replace “quoting” to “paraphrasing” there are any number on Lincoln quotes that apply.

    Besides attacking Sarah Palin over her religious beliefs, much as the “progressive” Left has tried to do to President Bush these past 8 years, is a dangerously stupid tactic. Not least because it distracts from any serious discussion of national issues, a discussion those doing the attacking cry plaintively that they want to pursue.

    On a more practical level, these sorts of personal attacks on Palin (not unlike your personal attacks on Rob, H!) are very likely to do nothing more than piss off the very blue-collar, swing-state undecided voters that Obama needs desperately to win in November. Preaching’ to the choir might fill the rafters, but it ain’t gonna fill the pews… and it sure ain’t gonna get ya’ no converts!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/white_folks_greed_runs_a_world_in_ Joel

    In college, Obama explains to a girlfriend, Regina, that reading Joseph Conrad’s 1902 classic, “Heart of Darkness” was important, not because the book was about Africa and the black people in Africa, but because it taught him about the white European who wrote it.

    “So I read the book to help me understand just what it is that makes white people so afraid. Their demons. The way their ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate.”

    Dreams From My Father-page 103

    By contrast, Again in Dreams From My Father, Malcolm X’s autobiography “spoke” to Obama. One line in particular “stayed with me,” he says.

    “He spoke of a wish he’d once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.”

    Has anybody bothered to read this book? Inasmuch as the book reveals Obama to be a flabbergasting lunatic, I gather the answer is no. Obama could be our next president: You might want to take a peek. If only people had read “Mein Kampf” …

  • JD

    A sitting US senator openly has taken the position that Americans should vote for the POTUS based on their race? I must confess to being afraid for America.

  • robert108

    No wonder PP doesn’t bother to pay attention to what people actually say.

    If it’s Obama saying it, it’s probably a lie.

    I still don’t see any “great accomplishments” by Obama.

  • Rick

    It is really fun to run over those pesky squirrels on the highway or street. They seem to have that “smug” look on their face right before you run them over like you can’t get me. Gottcha ya you little piece of #@!%!!

  • Hannitized

    Chief,

    I am not sure what the point of the quote was, I have no insight to the context or situation.

    Nobody here is talking about racism.

  • Bat One

    H,

    It seems to me that as you have attacked Palin for implicitly suggesting God’s support for our military policy, you are hardly in a position to substitute your view of God’s will in place of hers.

  • Bat One

    In the context of which I spoke, all of the things I had listed. You might do yourself some good if you actually paid attention and stopped cruising your way through life PP.

    H,

    This is exactly the sort of typically smarmy stupidity that works against any intelligent commentary you might make. The question is simple enough: What has Barack Obama accomplished in his life? Not what has he done. Nor where was he employed. But what has he DONE.

    The only accomplishment you’ve listed is being selected as head of the Harvard Law Review. Now that is most certainly an accomplishment, but that hardly qualifies an individual to be President of the US. In fact, Harvard Law has chosen a president of the Law Review every year since the Review was started over 122 years ago.

    Of note are these comments by the whimsically-handled “Ferry Pellwock”, in a discussion on point some while back at Professor Volokh’s site (here):

    My impression is that although Obama was well liked by most of his fellow editors on the Review (a main reason he was elected president), by the end of his presidency in spring, 1991, Obama was regarded as:

    1. having presided over a general “dumbing down” of previously observed standards for defining scholarly material worthy of publication in the nation’s leading law journal (with unconventional, sometimes sloppy, sometimes even profane, material now counting as publishable “scholarship”); and

    2. having been somewhat indifferent, even lazy, in the execution of his day-to-day editorial responsibilities, with a concrete result: the final published content of the Review was not as rigorously thought out, and tightly edited, as had previously been the case with the Review.

    And later:

    As to sources, having served as an editor of the Review myself (indeed, having direct knowledge of the time period in question), I am relying for my impressions mostly on various nonpublic sources.

    In terms of published material on point, you might take a glance at the book written by Eleanor Kerlow shortly after the events in question, which devotes considerable detail to the problems which broke out on the Harvard Law Review during the two years following Obama’s “dumbing down” of standards at the Review (my terminology, not hers), thereby emboldening the radical element on the Review to challenge efforts to reinstate traditional scholarly standards. The book is Poisoned Ivy: How Egos, Ideology, and Power Politics Almost Ruined Harvard Law School (1994) (see National Review piece on it here).

    It’s no great work of literature, but it does convey the basic facts. Even though Kerlow comes at the subject from a heavily liberal perspective, Obama doesn’t come off looking particularly good.

    As I said previosly, it’s clear most people on the Review liked Obama (he was “likeable enough,” one might say), something Kerlow acknowledges. However, that’s not to say that Obama’s fellow editors thought he diligently carried out his responsibilities, as president, to ensure that the material published by the Review was of the highest possible quality.

    Quite the contrary: as Kerlow recounts, the editors in the class behind Obama, in electing their own president, rejected the Obama model and elected someone with high standards and a strong work ethic who they thought could reinstate traditional editorial practices. As she explains on page 11 of Poisoned Ivy:

    “Obama was friendly and outgoing, but the class succeeding him wanted a tougher editor to lead them. [David] Ellen, quiet and fair-haired, had graduated summa cum laude in history and science from Harvard College in 1987. He had worked at The New Republic in 1989, the summer before starting law school, and was seen as someone who would be a more rigorous blue-penciler.”

    The president of the Harvard Law Review is seems to be about the only executive or managerial experience Obama can point to. How well he actually performed those responsibilities, however, seems to be seriously at issue.

  • Hannitized

    Ken,

    Hey Hannitized, Palin was quoting Lincoln

    No she wasn’t. You can’t find those words uttered by Lincoln.

    What do you have against Lincoln, anyway, that you would throw dirt on his name by tying him to Sarah’s gross negligence?

  • HG

    Interesting opinion H.

    Justice, I believe, is God’s will for government. War is a necessary means at times. Generally speaking, God’s will is accomplished when justice is carried out, even in war. Personally, I don’t think we have ever acted militarily when or where we did not believe our cause just and our actions right. By that standard alone it could be said:

    “our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.”

    Or just as well:
    At the close of a scientific convention in Washington, the members called upon the President [Lincoln]. One of them said: “Mr. President, we trust during this time of trial in which the nation is engaged, God is on our side, and will give us victory.” The noble Lincoln replied: “Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side. My great concern is to be on God’s side. For God is always right!”

  • robert108

    …but because of his achievements.

    What “achievements”, pray tell? Please list them.

    In the expected torrent of bullshit from you, you characterize Sarah’s qualifications as being only about her being female, even though she has a much better and more extensive track record than Obama, and deny that the sole qualification Obama possesses for his candidacy is that he’s “black”.

    Typical idioicy from you, H.

  • robert108

    That is the essence of racism.

    The essence of racism is the leftie insistence that black racism is justified, and white racism is evil. The truth is, all racism is evil, no matter the skin color. You lefties have institutionalized racism by all sorts of mandated social engineering programs based on the assumption that only white racism is significant, and black racism is justified. Shame on you, racist!

  • robert108

    BTW, H; Sarah’s candidacy is just as historic as Obama’s, in terms of identity politics; the difference is that the Dems play identity politics, and the Republicans don’t. We are right on the issue of American values, while you guys are advocates for Eurosocialism, or worse.

  • robert108

    If Obama can not communicate his message in a way that convinces you then he either failed or there is something wrong with our country that is preventing people from believing what they hear.

    It’s much simpler than that; Americans don’t want the “changes” he wants to make to this country. His “message” is wrong for America. Even all the Dem propaganda can’t cover up that fact.

  • Hannitized

    Heck, maybe racists accuse others of crying racism and and pretend that they don’t, while simultaneously complaining about racism.

    You don’t even comprehend the words that you are typing Zsa Zsa. I can’t imagine the ignorance of someone like that.

  • Hannitized

    Zsa Zsa blames me for her racist comments:

    You encourage Racism by fueling hatred.

    You are the one who said blacks are racists and they threaten the lives of principles and teachers. You don’t think that fuels racism???

    By accepting the actions of those who choose to torment and ruin the lives and careers of Teachers.

    Where did I ever “accept” your accusations? Hint: I didn’t.

    Racism is alive and well!

    Yes it is. You have demonstrated by your words and actions that you think blacks are racists and are violent while whites are not. That is the essence of racism.

  • robert108

    That is exactly what I said Chief. You need to convince Robert, not me.

    Nice try, but no dice. I never said Obama’s candidacy wasn’t “historic”, I asked you what was “historic” about it. Writing two autobiographies filled with falsehoods and misrepresentations is not “historic” in any way.
    You continue to dodge answering the question.

  • Hannitized

    Chief,

    I have seen Mr. Obama’s suggestions and can not agree with a single one. In summary, he would, IMO, send us down a steep slope into state run and mandated regulations enforced by law which is close to communism.

    I can certainly appreciate that you have the right to your opinion and you should certainly vote that. That is what makes this country great.

    If Obama can not communicate his message in a way that convinces you then he either failed or there is something wrong with our country that is preventing people from believing what they hear. Propaganda in the new media for instance?

  • Hannitized

    Bat,

    And your perspective on God’s will is better than Palin’s because…?

    I didn’t say mine was better. I would never be so arrogant.

    I can speak for myself and for me, it doesn’t make much sense to pray to have God on our side. Both sides pray to have God on their side.

    If I prayed that God be on the side of abortion, when young women make that choice does it make their actions the will of God?

  • Hannitized

    My brother was a teacher in a predominately black school. My sister was a principal in a predominately black school. They both received death threats and bodily harm from the children and parents.

    Because blacks are bad…..whites are good! Thanks Zsa Zsa.

    We all need to step back and look at comments like Biden made and review what that really means. Voting for someone because of skin color is a pathetic statement. Joe Biden should be called on it and Obama should be called on his comments on ” A vote for me is a vote for blacks.”

    If your reading comprehension skills tell you Biden said to vote for someone because they are black, I doubt anything else you say because you clearly are an idiot.

  • Hannitized

    PP beats up on the black man:

    Hannitized posts Senator Obama’s biography and calls it accomplishment.

    You might want to try that one again: What has he actually accomplished?

    In the context of blacks looking towards leaders who have earned their way to the top vs. having to ride their daddy’s coat tails, I think we can all agree that those are indeed accomplishments.

    You don’t think Obama’s achievements are accomplishments? How unwise of you.

    You might want to try that one again: What has he actually accomplished?

    In the context of which I spoke, all of the things I had listed. You might do yourself some good if you actually paid attention and stopped cruising your way through life PP.

  • robert108

    My argument is that to many blacks and African Americans in this country could be moved or transformed by Barack to believe they can accomplish more in life. Not that his achievements give him the experience needed to be president.

    Thanks for making our point; if his “transformative” effect is only for the blacks and African Americans in this country, how can you claim he is qualified to be the President of all Americans? Is this the “historic” aspect of his candidacy? If so, it neglects the vast majority of our population.
    Pure identity politics, which is the entire point of this thread. It took you long enough to admit it.

  • Hannitized

    PP minimizes and distorts;

    Ahh, so a ‘transormation’ will occur if Obama is elected, because of his ‘skin color’.

    Finally, you come clean.

    What is transformative is how people view their possibilities in life. And it is not because of Obama’s “skin color”, but because of his achievements.

    What his achievements do to some blacks in this country is show that with hard work, commitment to education and devotion to country, you can go anywhere in the world, including to the White House as president of the United States.

    This reality can transform how blacks think, how they hope and give real belief to the idea that they are apart of our fabric.

    PParets tries, and fails, to trivialize the reality of the success of Barack Obama. Because he, unlike others, shows that he is intelligent and hard working. He went to Harvard, he achieved great things as an intellectual.

    He is not simply exciting others because he is “female”, like Sarah Palin, but because he demonstrated his ability.

  • robert108

    John McCain’s nomination is historic, only not as historically significant as Obama’s.

    Really? Why is McCain’s candidacy historic, and why is Obama’s candidacy “more” historic?

    Please explain.

  • Hannitized

    Robert, either you are sleepy or drunk. You are rambling like a drug addict.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    That would be Hillary. Just about every other sentence was: “I am a woman” (it is my turn, I earned it)

    He is not simply exciting others because he is “female”, like Sarah Palin, but because he demonstrated his ability.

    To his credit, Obama has not overtly played the race/gender card as much as Hillary did.

    In my opinion, he has played it covertly with comments about folding money and the like.

    John McCain, in my opinion has not and has not only avoided it, but has spoken out, and taken action against anyone on his staff who has.

  • Hannitized

    Zsa Zsa does mental backflips:

    In her effort to make herself feel proud for being a white person who never complains about racial abuse or racism, she comments:

    BUT not everyone shouts racial abuse.

    However, earlier she cried:

    The fact that the death threats came from black parents is just a symptom of Racial hatred.

    So lets sum it up kids. For Zsa Zsa, it is ok to talk about racial abuse and racist black people. Thats bad!

    But when black people call whites racist….well, well now….that is a horse of a different color. That just can not be tolerated.

    Sheesh!

  • Bat One

    …and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate…

    And did he actually DO anything during this period? What cases did he work on? Did he do any trial work, or just research? Did he win any cases? Were any of his cases noteworthy? Why? Who were his clients?

    Considering alll the digging that has been done into the background of the GOP’s vice presidential candidate, why do we know so very little about any legal work done by the Democrats’ presidential candidate?

    If it is worth noting in his autobiography, on his campaign website, on his c v, and in Wikipedia, why is it not important enough to provide the public with any details?

  • robert108

    No, I said her only ability to excite people is because of her female attribute, and that’s a fact jack.

    It’s only a “fact” in your diseased mind. Her ability to appeal to the American people is due to her authenticity and her inherent American values. She represents the American people much more than a Marxist, black separatist community agitator.
    You couldn’t be more wrong.

  • Hannitized

    Chief,

    Hannitized. Whoever is elected will be historic.

    That is exactly what I said Chief. You need to convince Robert, not me.

    Like I said, anyone of the three might be historic. They all just aren’t as historically significant as Obama. The first female VP is a tight second though.

    Let’s just be real and honest about this.

  • pparets

    108: Hannitized cannot reveal why he thinks an Obama presidency would be ‘historic’ even though he knows why he thinks that.

    To do so, Hannitized would have to reveal that his devotion to Senator Obama’s ‘historic’ run is based on race, and thereby his credibility as an apologist would evaporate.

    He blithley pronounces that 92% of Blacks are voting for Obama solely on the issues, while arguing that whites who oppose Obama are doing so out of racial bias.

    He simply cannot afford to give an honest answer to your question, and he won’t.

  • Bat One

    Ok, you don’t agree with his policies. Big surprise /sarcasm.

    But the bottom line is by saying why somebody can be transformative is not the same as saying that is why you should vote for him.

    H,

    I understand that “transformative” is a very important buzz word to those on the “progressive” far Left who prefer not to engage in detailed discussions of policy… kinda like the phrase “Change We Can Believe In,” which epitomizes a candidacy that is mostly world-class fluff and damn little substance.

    Still, I’m not sure just what you mean by “transformative” if not the fact that Obama is the first racially mixed, major party candidate.

    Do you really think his policy pronouncements qualify as “transformative”? Barack Obama’s policy proposals are no different than those of George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, or Walter Mondale… all of which, by the way, were soundly rejected by the American electorate. Hardly what I would consider “transformative” in any case.

  • robert108

    I agree nobody should vote for someone based on their skin complexion 100%.

    Even 1% is racism. Nice try. What’s “historic” about Obama’s candidacy? I seem to have missed your answer to this question.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Obama is going to “bring us together”, which is why his supporters always engage in damaging race baiting.

    It’s all about “Hope” and “Change”.

  • robert108

    Hannitized: What is “historic” about Obama’s candidacy?
    I notice you don’t seem to be able to answer the question.

  • Max

    Which is more racist?
    A few people not voting for Obama because he isn’t white,
    or millions of people voting for Obama because he’s black?

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Hannitized. I guess it may be from one’s perspective. I can take a little more removed view. In the one case, a 1/8 negro could be considered or looked upon as being historic. I don’t focus on that, but will put it out there for the sake of being real. Embracing something called Black liberation theology is a bit provocative. Accepting the financial and organizational help from a domestic terrorist is also a bit interesting. I, personally would have avoided the two, but realistically would not have garnered much fame if I did. Each person must make those choices. Mr. Obama had a difficult childhood. He seemed to “get over it” at Columbia U.

    Mr. McCain answered his country’s call to duty. He also had his rebellious times, being graduated almost at the bottom of his class at Annapolis. He and his running mate have stood up to special interests including those of their own party. He has worked across party lines as they say with a senator from California and one from Connecticut as well as Teddy Kennedy–all to my chagrin, but no one can satisfy every person.

    I have seen Mr. Obama’s suggestions and can not agree with a single one. In summary, he would, IMO, send us down a steep slope into state run and mandated regulations enforced by law which is close to communism. It would drive certain people to strengthen their religious beliefs as they try to raise their children under their household and under God’s laws. The Hungarians did the same and survived.

  • Max

    Which is more racist?
    A few people not voting for Obama because he isn’t white,
    or millions of people voting for Obama because he’s black?

  • robert108

    I didn’t say mine was better. I would never be so arrogant.

    Now, that’s funny!

    What’s “historic” about Obama’s candidacy, H?

  • robert108

    Excuse me; that should have been “…all the Dem racist identity politics and propaganda…”

  • Hannitized

    They just are my British brethren. They just are!

    Probably because they lack intellectual honesty or because they go to sites like this for information.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    He’s beige, at best.

    Mocha latte…decaf!

  • Hannitized

    I understand that “transformative” is a very important buzz word to those on the “progressive” far Left who prefer not to engage in detailed discussions of policy… kinda like the phrase “Change We Can Believe In,” which epitomizes a candidacy that is mostly world-class fluff and damn little substance.

    I think you are overlooking some key things. Barack’s candidacy has already transformed the hopes and dreams of African American’s across the world and country. You can’t spin that into a request for votes. It has already been stated by educated blacks in college how much this has reshaped or “transformed” their perspective on being black in America.

    Additionally, there are other ways to transform this country that have nothing to do with color, although that is a reality that is no doubt good for America, just as Sarah landing the VP spot is good for women across our country. Although, not so much in Europe.

    Do you really think his policy pronouncements qualify as “transformative”?

    National Healthcare? Better education opportunities for our youth? Yes. I do.

  • Hannitized

    If Ken changes his comment to replace “quoting” to “paraphrasing” there are any number on Lincoln quotes that apply.

    I don’t even think you can say she was paraphrasing Lincoln. At best I think you could say she was speaking with the spirit of Lincoln’s ideas in mind. But that looks like maneuvering to me. I doubt Palin is informed enough to accurately refer to anything Lincoln has said.

    Besides attacking Sarah Palin over her religious beliefs, much as the “progressive” Left has tried to do to President Bush these past 8 years, is a dangerously stupid tactic.

    I used it as an example to show that anyone can quote someone and make an argument that might not be at all related to the point the person who was quoted was trying to make.

    On a more practical level, these sorts of personal attacks on Palin (not unlike your personal attacks on Rob, H!) are very likely to do nothing more than piss off the very blue-collar, swing-state undecided voters that Obama needs desperately to win in November.

    You mean like all of these blue collar workers?

    I think you are drinking too much Palin Kool-aid. She isn’t the saviour for the American blue-collar worker you think she is.

  • Hannitized

    Sarah Palin says that the Iraq war is part of God’s plan and a task from him:

    Huffington Post reports that on June 8, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) addressed the graduating class of commission students at the Wasilla Assembly of God church. During that address, Palin portrayed the Iraq was as a quest decreed by God, and said that U.S. soldiers were carrying out “God’s plan”:

    “our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.” Sarah Palin

    Now, it must be true, because someone said it. Right?

    Idiots.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Hannitized. Because you do not have a profile, I am sending this here in the open. Focus on the word OUR, used by a racist journalist.

    from Leilani Albano
    to writemalkin@gmail.com
    date Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM
    subject don’t forget you’re brown

    and i have to say, from one pinay journalist to another, you embarrass me and you embarrass our people.

    The racists are coming out of the woodwork and they are mostly Democrats, liberals and communists.

  • Hannitized

    Cheif,

    I have a profile.

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    I think it is a very dangerous road you are traversing when you use the government to deliver God’s justice. This is the very line of attack our enemies are using against us.

    I think God gives us the ability to discern right from wrong. Sometimes we are wrong or misguided and when we do things that are wrong or misguided and claiming that you are delivering God’s justice or will, you are doing him a great disservice.

    I think Lincoln was right when he said that we should hope he is on our side. But our actions should not be in his name, only that our goals are good and just.

    I think Sarah lost sight of what role God plays in our lives and how he could be called upon for guidance.

  • Hannitized

    Sarah Palin says that the Iraq war is part of God’s plan and a task from him:

    Huffington Post reports that on June 8, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) addressed the graduating class of commission students at the Wasilla Assembly of God church. During that address, Palin portrayed the Iraq was as a quest decreed by God, and said that U.S. soldiers were carrying out “God’s plan”:

    “our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.” Sarah Palin

  • robert108

    H: I’m still waiting for your explanation of why a leftie running for President on the Dem ticket is “historic”. What’s the “historic” part? Hmmm?

  • Mickey

    Skinned squirrel looks just like a rat.

  • docdave

    right, eb, he ain’t all that black. I have friends that are whole lot blacker than him.

  • desert rat

    Democrats are Rebublicans who haven’t made peace with reality yet.

  • Hannitized

    HG trips over his own feet, thinks he made a long jump.

    Because you provide another persons interpretation as proper context, does not make it so.

    I demonstrated that anyone can say anything about a politician by quoting them out of context.

    You can’t find the entire discussion from Biden.

    As I have said above. If people want to know how Obama can be a transformative Politician, it is reasonable to list those reasons.

    Because you single one out does not mean that is why Biden said vote for him.

    Hell, he could have even been talking about something else

    He could just as easily of said:

    “If you are looking for reason’s to vote for Obama, there are plenty. His plan for the economy, his plan for healthcare and education alone are reason’s to vote for him. If you want to know how he can transform this nation, if his plans are not enacted, that is easy to answer.

    Having a president who inspires hope and encourages the youth of America that they can take themselves from a single parent home all the way to the presidency can transform the face of the nation. That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”

    Now, where is the full Biden quote again?

  • Hannitized

    To imply that one should vote for a person based on skin complexion is racism.

    I agree nobody should vote for someone based on their skin complexion 100%.

    But you can still vote for that person based on issues, and also talk about how that vote could be transformative because of his skin color without it being racist.

    That is all Biden was doing.

  • Bill

    Because nothing is scarier then Obama’s crappy poll numbers…. aside from his financially disastrous campaign spending.

  • Eneils Bailey

    Said Joe Biden.

    said today that electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.

    Said Joe Biden.
    I am a fool, I have no idea of what I am talking about. I have mumbled and jumbled the English language and language logic into a lost history.

    Does this this mean that if I can find a black person, who is blacker than Obama at 3AM moonless night, that I should vote for him?

    This is mindless, sheer liberalism at its worst.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    This is the same type of quota/AA that I encountered in the mid 1970s. Racism, pure and simple. What a salient quality to focus on. Is it really this desperate?

  • Hannitized

    You excel at lying Rob. How do you do it?

    After you are done patting yourself on your back for mischaracterizing what was said, can you provide the quote where Joe Biden says vote for him because he is black??

    You can talk about why voting for woman or black man can be transformative for this country without saying that is the reason why you should vote for him.

    I know idiots like Goon, Kevin, Proof, Zsa Zsa, and about 90% of your pack don’t understand that. But that doesn’t change the reality.

    You are being deceptive on purpose, because you are running scared.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Actually, that is the only reason I can think of to vote for Obama. Other than that affirmative action, ethnic color of skin thing, he has nothing. Zero, zilch, nadda, nit, non, Nobody is home, huh uh, no way, nothing!

  • robert108

    If Obama had any real qualifications to be President, and if he wanted to strengthen and promote American values, then his racial identification would be irrelevant. The only reason it’s considered relevant by the lefties/Dems is that it’s all they have. Dems play the race card; it’s their key to political power, and has been almost since the inception of the Dem Party.

  • HG

    H,

    I did respond a few comments ago.

  • robert108

    You are being deceptive on purpose, because you are running scared.

    Again, you describe yourself to a “T”, H. Why is Obama’s candidacy “historic”? I have yet to see you answer that question.

  • Bat One

    H,

    Considering your candidate’s stark lack of any substantive achievements, a fact which he acknowledges by stating that his campaign isn’t about accomplishment but about judgment, do you honestly think it wise to disparage the achievements of his opponents and thus point to the whole question of accomplishment? I thought you were smarter than that!

  • Eagle Eye

    But first make sure the squirrel doe not have lib or lyme disease.

  • Pilgrim

    For the best squirrel:

    Skin, then quarter then like a chicken. Roll in flour, then brown in a skillet.

    Then place the little critters in a dutch oven and bake at 250 degreees for about 90 minutes.

    Them’s good eatin’.

    Not worth a crap at political analysis (as you can see above), but they sure are tasty!

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    You are on intellectual par with a tomato.

  • Eneils Bailey

    Proof,

    I used to love Squirrel.

    To add enjoyment to the pursuit of the elusive little critters, we always hunted them with a .22 calbere rifle. Blasting them off a limb above your head with a shotgun, seemed a bit unfair. They never got to shoot back.

    My mother would always cook them up for us, but would not gnaw on his little bones. She never ate them.

    It was not till years later, that I realized a squirrel is a rodent. Shave the tail on a good-sized grey squirrel and you would have to put him in a police lineup to distinguish him from a Boston Wharf Rat.

    Never ate a squirrel since then.

    Have plenty in my yard now. They don’t crap on my car, gnaw the wood off my house, or try to bite me.

  • Hannitized

    Goon admits:

    To add enjoyment to the pursuit of the elusive little critters, we always hunted them with a .22 calbere rifle.

    My mother would always cook them up for us,

    Of course you did Goon. Of course you did.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Hannitized, As usual you don’t have a clue on reality. AND you certainly don’t offer any kind of answers. You encourage Racism by fueling hatred. By accepting the actions of those who choose to torment and ruin the lives and careers of Teachers. Racism is alive and well! The Democrats have selected a candidate in hopes that people would see past his lack of substance and capability with all of their HOPES of CHANGING our country into a Socialist country. Many Dems. are realizing Obama is not the answer to their dreams of a Socialist society. They are waking up to the Nightmare Obama is because of his lack of substance.

  • Eneils Bailey

    Proof,

    I would still blast them away if they became major irritants.

    Simply being a pimple on the tree of life is enough to ignore them.

  • HG

    It is a sad day in America when I have to explain…

    Agreed. H trying to explain anything is a sad day. H having to explain something (especially given his inability to do so) would be a really, really sad day.

  • Chris

    Rob,
    I cannot help but see the similarities between your writing about political issues and the comedy by the character on SNL, Nicholas Fehn.

  • k_lunch

    So since he’s half black/half white, when I vote against him will I be racist or self loathing?

  • Hannitized

    Bat,

    Ok, you don’t agree with his policies. Big surprise /sarcasm.

    But the bottom line is by saying why somebody can be transformative is not the same as saying that is why you should vote for him.

    Any intelligent and intellectually honest person knows this is true.

  • Hannitized

    Oh and by the way Rob. It is a sad day in America when I have to explain that someone’s mis-interpretation of what Biden says acts as an actual quote from Biden in dumb-asses minds.

    The fact of the matter is that you are taking someone’s interpretation and acting like Biden said it when he did not.

    It is easy to respond to people who are looking for an answer how a politician can change or transform the face of this nation by stating how he can change the nation. How can you be so dumb?

  • HG

    H,

    Palin’s explanation of the spirit in which she said the following aside:

    “our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God.”

    Would you agree that liberating people from tyranny and terror is justice and therefore God’s will in general?

  • Bat One

    Is it possible that Joe Biden was talking about reasons to vote for Obama, that had to do with his policies and then also speak about how Obama can be transformative for our country and the political system, and those being two different subjects yes or no?

    1. Joe Biden isn’t nearly that smart.

    2. Raising taxes, all kinds of taxes, during an economics downturn isn’t “transformative.” It’s counter-productive at best and witlessly stupid at worst.

    3. Ditto for complaining about the irresponsibility of large federal deficits on the one hand, while proposing all sorts of new spending initiatives on the other.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Hannitized, You are the one who came up with “Because blacks are bad.” Not me! My point was death threats towards teachers black, white, or whatever color is not good. The fact that the death threats came from black parents is just a symptom of Racial hatred. The teachers are there to teach and with all the Union rules and interference from accusations and threats of law suits the children are learning they can lie and get away with anything as long as they start screaming racism or sexual abuse. It is not exclusively white teachers who get this treatment. You came up with your own conclusion about “blacks being bad.” That is the problem! You and the rest of the Affirmative Action, racist crowd LOVE to scream hate filled remarks toward white america. Black, white, red, yellow, green whatever! Everyone is human. BUT not everyone shouts racial abuse.

  • HG

    The context:

    Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigning in North Carolina where black votes could help swing the state to the Democrats, said today that electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.
    But he particularly singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black.

    The content:

    “That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”

    The meaning:
    Dear black voters of North Carolina whose vote in this election could carry the state for Obama,
    Electing the black candidate (Barack Obama) will be a transformative event. Just electing the black candidate will be significant.

    Obvious:

    “Vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.”
    -Rob

  • HG

    What does that mean if not “vote for Obama because he’s black.” If being black is, all by itself, a significant reason to vote for Obama…what else is Biden saying?

    Rob,

    You have just ventured into the abyss of H’s ambiguity. H will now parse words, distort context, and say it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    Good luck to you sir.

  • Hannitized

    Zsa Zsa does mental backflips:

    In her effort to make herself feel proud for being a white person who never complains about racial abuse or racism, she comments:

    BUT not everyone shouts racial abuse.

    However, earlier she cried:

    The fact that the death threats came from black parents is just a symptom of Racial hatred.

    So lets sum it up kids. For Zsa Zsa, it is ok to talk about racial abuse and racist black people. Thats bad!

    But when black people call whites racist….well, well now….that is a horse of a different color. That just can not be tolerated.

    Sheesh!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Hannitized, You are the one who came up with “Because blacks are bad.” Not me!

    Zsa Zsa: Don’t waste you breath with Hannitized! He is a dishonest troll who is not above twisting other people’s words to try to make the points he is unable to make on his own.

  • Hannitized

    B1

    This is exactly the sort of typically smarmy stupidity that works against any intelligent commentary you might make.

    I understand why you “feel” this way. But what you are neglecting to do is compare the context of my recent comments to my previous comments on this matter.

    My argument is that to many blacks and African Americans in this country could be moved or transformed by Barack to believe they can accomplish more in life. Not that his achievements give him the experience needed to be president.

    Please re-read my previous argument:

    What is transformative is how people view their possibilities in life. And it is not because of Obama’s “skin color”, but because of his achievements.

    What his achievements do to some blacks in this country is show that with hard work, commitment to education and devotion to country, you can go anywhere in the world, including to the White House as president of the United States.

    As you can see, PP is every bit of deserving of the criticism he received.

    The only accomplishment you’ve listed is being selected as head of the Harvard Law Review. Now that is most certainly an accomplishment, but that hardly qualifies an individual to be President of the US.

    Mabye, but that certainly wasn’t my argument Bat.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Hannitized. Whoever is elected will be historic. Is John McCain the first Naval Officer to be elected? Is/would he be the first Vietnam Combat Veteran to be elected? or the first former POW to be elected, or the first from Arizona? Not including the VP who would be the first female with a mixed-race husband. I just heard that on CNN two days ago. Good for them, telling The Truth.

  • HG

    It is not a statement that says that is why you should vote for someone.

    See what I mean Rob. Ignore the context (a campaign speech) and claim Biden to be impartial in his reference to the significance of electing the first black candidate.

    Rob, I hate to say it, but you asked for it.

  • robert108

    More projection from you, H.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/white_folks_greed_runs_a_world_in_ Joel

    Z
    Read: Comment leads to call for the dismissal of the nation’s longest-serving school superintendent.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    My brother was a teacher in a predominately black school. My sister was a principal in a predominately black school. They both received death threats and bodily harm from the children and parents. According to them it was next to impossible to teach because of all the red tape and racism. The kids can and do accuse the teachers of sexual abuse and accuse them of having porn on their computers etc.. It disrupts the teachers careers & lives and has caused many teachers to quit. Evidently within the last decade it has gotten worse. The parents scream racism and the kids chime right in. My point is, the encouragement of Racism has and will destroy any type of progress that has been made towards race relations. It is undermining education and interferes with the quality of education for the ones who want to learn. We all need to step back and look at comments like Biden made and review what that really means. Voting for someone because of skin color is a pathetic statement. Joe Biden should be called on it and Obama should be called on his comments on ” A vote for me is a vote for blacks.”

  • robert108

    Why are you so against recognizing the achievements of Obama?

    There are none to recognize.

  • HG

    Is it possible that Joe Biden was talking about reasons to vote for Obama, that had to do with his policies and then also speak about how Obama can be transformative for our country and the political system, and those being two different subjects yes or no?
    Is it possible he wasn’t even talking about the fact that he was black? Yes or no?

    Not according to the AP story.

  • Hannitized

    PP arrogantly suggests:

    Hannitized cannot reveal why he thinks an Obama presidency would be ‘historic’ even though he knows why he thinks that.

    What blather. Obama’s nomination is already historic. Why is it an issue to elaborate on why a presidential election is also historic? John McCain’s nomination is historic, only not as historically significant as Obama’s.

    To do so, Hannitized would have to reveal that his devotion to Senator Obama’s ‘historic’ run is based on race,

    My “devotion” to Obama’s run is because he preached a less partisan presidency, because he knows many of us Americans, wish for a less partisan country. You don’t see me creating stupid partisan posts….do you?

    I also happen to like his policies and I think he is intelligent. I trust leaders who can think intelligently, not emotionally.

    and thereby his credibility as an apologist would evaporate.

    What the heck are you talking about delusion boy?

    He blithley pronounces that 92% of Blacks are voting for Obama solely on the issues, while arguing that whites who oppose Obama are doing so out of racial bias.

    You are quoting me incorrectly. I said 90% of blacks voted democratic….and they have for decades. Now we have an additional two percent that you can easily attribute to the fact that we are at war with a new kind of threat and that many of them would rather vote for a guy who gets it, and not a guy who will give us more of the McSame.

    He simply cannot afford to give an honest answer to your question, and he won’t.

    I didn’t answer the question, because it is so patently obvious, I didn’t think it deserved one. Palin’s possibility of becoming the first woman VP would also be historic. It would be really stupid, but historic.

    You are out of your rocker PP.

    Why is Obama’s nomination historic?

    Gee, I wonder?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26428950/

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7586375.stm

  • pparets

    Hannitized posts Senator Obama’s biography and calls it accomplishment.

    You might want to try that one again: What has he actually accomplished?

  • pparets

    Hannitized: There are so many African-Americans with similar or far better academic records than Senator Obama; men and women who actually went on the accomplish great things.

    Your whole thrust on this thread boils down to one absurd argument: Barack Obama should be elected president because he would make a great role-model for under-achievers.

    Fact: Not one piece of legislation in the United States senate bears his name, or was authored by him.

    Fact: The majority of his votes in the Illinois legislature and the senate have been “present”.

    Fact: He is rated the most liberal member of the senate.

    These aren’t smears, they’re just the facts.

    Hannitized: you are manuvering to use the highest office in the land to satisfy your deeply held conviction that the election of Senator Obama will somehow heal the racial divide in this country.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Thanks, Proof! I have noticed that.

  • pparets

    Hannitized: Ahh, so a ‘transormation’ will occur if Obama is elected, because of his ‘skin color’.

    Finally, you come clean.

  • Hannitized

    PP,

    Hannitized: There are so many African-Americans with similar or far better academic records than Senator Obama; men and women who actually went on the accomplish great things.

    Congratulations, you have discovered the irrelevant.

    First, how many of them were elected into that position by a majority of Americans?

    Second, how many African Americans cried about all of those other blacks successes? If you can’t be honest enough to admit the highest office in the land has never been attained by a black person, and that for Barack to get there has changed the view point of how blacks feel they can be treated fairly, you are either being ignorant or you are being deceitful.

    Why are you so against recognizing the achievements of Obama? Is because you relate to people who create things like this:

    Your whole thrust on this thread boils down to one absurd argument: Barack Obama should be elected president because he would make a great role-model for under-achievers.

    PP, you are acting like an idiot. I have stated over and over again that this argument you keep presenting is not my argument.

    I am not suggesting that it is the reason why you should vote for him, just that it is an additional consequence.

    Why you guys are so bitterly divisive on this issue I will never know?

    Hannitized: you are manuvering to use the highest office in the land to satisfy your deeply held conviction that the election of Senator Obama will somehow heal the racial divide in this country.

    Oh brother! You are wrong on (3) levels. One, I am only stating a side benefit to blacks across this country as a result to his election. Two, this does not “cure” racism or the “divide”, all it does is show blacks who lack faith that they can truly accomplish the greatest things in this country and three, that there are enough Americans in this country who do not see color and will vote for the best man for the job, even if he is black.

    Despite your ignorant views. Not all blacks believe they have the support of enough Americans to do that. Obama is changing that and can change that further. By stating that fact I am not suggesting that is WHY someone should vote for him.

    I am disappointed in your inability to deny that argument that I have stated so clearly.

  • Hannitized

    Really? Why is McCain’s candidacy historic, and why is Obama’s candidacy “more” historic?

    Please explain.

    McCain would be the oldest person ever elected to the office of president. Not really much of an accomplishment compared to Obama.

  • robert108

    Nobody says that is why we should vote for Obama, you dolt. It is just a side benefit for blacks who can hopefully become more adjusted to conforming.

    Two more lies. That is the only reason to vote for Obama, whose only “accomplishment” has been the fact that he’s the first partly-black candidate for President. His black liberation theology preaches separation from white people. Not conforming will be in his agenda.
    The President has a responsibility to represent all Americans, not just those with black skin. Pure skin color racism.

  • robert108

    Hannitized: you are manuvering to use the highest office in the land to satisfy your deeply held conviction that the election of Senator Obama will somehow heal the racial divide in this country.

    Unfortunately for “useful idiots” like H, were Obama actually elected President, his black liberation theology would increase the racial divide in this country, increase racial tensions, and move us significantly backward in our desire to create a true colorblind society.

  • robert108

    But when black people call whites racist….well, well now….that is a horse of a different color. That just can not be tolerated.

    You lie, as usual. You lefties believe black racism is justified, and only white racism is bad. Shame on you!

  • Hannitized

    PP belittles great accomplishment:

    Hannitized posts Senator Obama’s biography and calls it accomplishment.

    I guess when an education is handed to you without having to work for it, it might not seem like an accomplishment to some. Either that, or a Harvard and Columbia University degree is so meaningless to some snobs they don’t consider them accomplishments.

    This is what some expect from privileged individuals who look down their nose at others who actually have to earn things in life.

    No wonder PP doesn’t bother to pay attention to what people actually say.

  • robert108

    Not really much of an accomplishment compared to Obama.

    You’re one for two, then. What has Obama “accomplished”?

    What’s your comparison with your choice to focus on McCain’s age(ageism)? McCain will also be the first POW elected POTUS, as well; why did you make an ageist comment? He will also be the first POTUS who was tortured by the commies, as well. He knows the enemy, while Obama seems to be confused on that matter, to say the least. He may be more sympathetic to our enemies than he is to our country.

  • Hannitized

    Robert distorts, because that is all he has:

    In the expected torrent of bullshit from you, you characterize Sarah’s qualifications as being only about her being female,

    No, I said her only ability to excite people is because of her female attribute, and that’s a fact jack.

    Nobody would be screaming about her if she didn’t;

    Shoot moose a female
    shoot an automatic rifle as a female.
    say she was a pit-bull with lipstick

    All of her accomplishments overlooked and are nothing to voters who intend to vote for her. The hysteria and hype she gets is because of her looks and because she is female.

    Argue otherwise. I challenge you.

    What “achievements”, pray tell? Please list them.

    Go to Wiki and see for yourself:

    Obama is the first African American to be nominated by a major political party for president. His acceptance speech was given on August 28, 2008 at the 2008 Democratic National Convention. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

    That is a pretty tall order for an intellectual.

    Although you would like to dismiss this……it does not change the reality.

  • Hannitized

    I meant I agreed, 100%.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    So Hannitized thinks the Huffpost is a credible source of information? You have got to be kidding. They are not more credible than the National Enq.

  • Hannitized

    Goon,

    Here is the video. Video’s don’t have any credibility issue.

    http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com/watch?v=Wut6cxco3wU

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    Credibility Check:

    Is it possible that Joe Biden was talking about reasons to vote for Obama, that had to do with his policies and then also speak about how Obama can be transformative for our country and the political system, and those being two different subjects yes or no?

    Is it possible he wasn’t even talking about the fact that he was black? Yes or no?

  • robert108

    What’s “historic” about Obama’s candidacy? Please answer!

  • HG

    You are on intellectual par with a tomato

    (H demonstrates his imagined intellectual superiority.)

  • Hannitized

    PP opines:

    I don’t care how African-Americans feel about Barack Obama or being treated fairly. We don’t elect presidents to make folks ‘feel’ good. The presidency is not a group-therapy opportunity for self-esteem.

    Nobody says that is why we should vote for Obama, you dolt. It is just a side benefit for blacks who can hopefully become more adjusted to conforming.

    I really don’t care what you think about black people. I am just stating a fact that there is a transformative side effect that is occurring with Obama’s rise.

    Now…have a cup of coffee and wake the hell up!

  • Jerry

    I see “Hammerized” had completely monopolized this Blog with Idiocy..

    However, here’s my 2cents:
    Being Black would only be “Transformitive” if “Race” were not an issue. Truly, a Transformation.

    Since Joe Biden seeks to “make” Race an issue, seems like the same old Crap, to me..

    When Joe Biden was selcted by Obama, my Suspicions concerning Obama’s judgement were confirmed.

    It is very poor..

  • pparets

    Hannitized:

    If you can’t be honest enough to admit the highest office in the land has never been attained by a black person, and that for Barack to get there has changed the view point of how blacks feel they can be treated fairly, you are either being ignorant or you are being deceitful.

    First, H, what does ‘honesty’ have to do with the simple, basic, historic fact that no African-American has ever been president????

    And, you have just confirmed what I said earlier! You see this as an opportunity to make blacks feel good about themselves!!

    I don’t care how African-Americans feel about Barack Obama or being treated fairly. We don’t elect presidents to make folks ‘feel’ good. The presidency is not a group-therapy opportunity for self-esteem.

    I note, additionally, that you did not or could not refute a single fact I listed about Senator Obama’s actual record of achievement in office.

  • Bat One

    I don’t think God has any interest in attaching his name to any bomb that may fall on innocent women, children and men who lived a peaceful life.

    H,

    And your perspective on God’s will is better than Palin’s because…?

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    He’s beige, at best.

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    Are you going to respond to the credibility check or not?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Hannitized, from the article:

    But he particularly singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black.

    “That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”

    What does that mean if not “vote for Obama because he’s black.” If being black is, all by itself, a significant reason to vote for Obama…what else is Biden saying?

    What’s funny about your comments is that you do more harm to your candidate by being a sycophantic Obama troll than you do to my criticism and credibility.

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    max
    i think we are looking at millions on both sides of that bogus comparison. and both parties display racism. african american distrust of government is widespread, leading many of them to refrain from voting. i suspect it has to do with the fact that most of the GOP still jaunt on down to the ‘Southern Partisan’ to bemoan the fall of the south and describe slave owners as especially compassionate.

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