Jimmy Carter: Joe Wilson Called Obama A Liar Because He’s Racist

Proof  •  September 16, 2009

I say it over and over again: The more unpopular Obama and his policies become the more liberals are going to blame any sign of that unpopularity on racism.

ATLANTA — Former President Jimmy Carter says Congressman Joe Wilson’s outburst to President Barack Obama last week was an act “based on racism.” Carter says Wilson’s comment was part of an “inherent feeling” of some in this country who feel that a black man should not be president.
Carter called Wilson’s comment “dastardly” and said the president should be treated with respect.

Right. Because it can’t just be because Obama was lying and that said lies made Wilson angry.
You can think Wilson was wrong to shout at Obama like that (I don’t, personally) but to say that he’s a racist is wrong. Shouting at someone is one thing. Impugning the man’s motivations with baseless accusations of racism is quite another.
If you ask me, Jimmy Carter ought to apologize to Wilson.

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  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Clever lack of a comeback there Dufusness.

  • sayanything-4625

    “The president does not believe that — that the criticism comes based on the color of his skin,” Gibbs said. “We understand that people have disagreements with some of the decisions that we’ve made and some of the extraordinary actions that had to be undertaken by this administration and previous administrations to stabilize our financial system, to ensure viability of our domestic auto industry.”…
    Gibbs was asked by reporters why this is not a “teachable moment” on race similar to the one that Mr. Obama identified following the Cambridge police flap.
    “Obviously, the president has, and has always had, great concerns about race relations in this country,” he replied. “He’s talked about them in speeches. He’s talked about them throughout his career in politics; believes we’ve made great strides, and obviously we’ve got work to do. But I — I don’t — I’m not sure I see this — this large national conversation going on right now.”

    Zero has spoken trolls. Its not about race. Deal with it. What’s your spin now?

  • Neiman

    This is the Crown Prince of Appeasement, of Unilater Surrender, he an anti-Semite (racism) and a man who never met a murderous dictator he didn’t love!

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    Heh.

    The boy who let more than five blatantly racist comments by buzzardbreath pass without comment is still playing the race card? That’s some chutzpah there, eunuchized!

  • Eneils Bailey

    I am truly amazed. A democrat can not open their mouth these days without accusing some Republican of being a racist.

    It long ago wore thin with the general public.
    Let’s think of something else they can accuse us of, thereby breaking this monotony.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    I win my bet!

    It took less than a week for the Obama Administration to throw Dhimmy under the bus!

  • bill-tb

    Anti-Semite Carter has Osama bin Laden recommend his racist book.

    And he calls other racist? I wouldn’t doubt the KKK did a little community organizing for Jimmy when he was Governor of Georgia.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    Says the apologist for racists…

  • http://northerngleaner.blogspot.com/ Gene

    Is there anyone more pitiful than Jimmy Carter?

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    sparkless-pig-fuckin-buckle the “pandering ninny” and apoligist for racists, can’t admit the racism and churlishness of his fellow progressives…

  • mplsbob

    Carter ought to stick to peanut farming.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Jimmy Carter makes the rights (sic) head explode.

    They fear him, because he told the truth.

    No, we mock him because he is a doddering fool and an apologist for terroists.

    He is a hero.

    More baloney than hero, though he did serve on a “sub”.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    James Earl “Dhimmy” Carter is a disgrace.

  • sayanything-5371

    If I’m a racist because I disagree with Obama, then he is a racist because he disagrees with me. Or does that only work one way, liberal shitstains?

    In fact Obama is a racist. Why else did he sit in “Reverend” Wright’s Racist church for 20 years?

    Oh, that’s right, he missed every one of those racist sermons. Right……

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The lefts overuse of the race card has made the charge laughable.

    We need to keep laughing.

    The question isn’t whether or not Wilson was rude, it’s was he right?

    And he was.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    No one flew planes into towers when Carter was President. That happened on bush’s watch

    The trained seal Dino barks on cue! Again with “Bush’s watch” (only the really chickensh*t folk are too deranged to capitalize his name). The first World Trade Center bombing took place on “Clinton’s watch”. What’s your point, dim demstem?

  • Bat One

    Witless accusations of racism are the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt adolescents of the Left… name-calling in a suit and tie. There is no reason for anyone, least of all Joe Wilson, to pay any sort of attention to anything Mr. Carter has to say.

  • sayanything-4625

    Carter was irrelevant when he was president

    Carter was an unmitigated disaster as President. Only Carter and the Democrats could heal the disaster that was the GOP after Nixon and Ford. Wow, that sounds familiar.

  • DINO

    And accusations of socialism are the refuge for the mental midgets of the right.

    At least our accusation has basis in fact.

  • carrick

    H:

    We don’t have lunatics who have uncontrolled outbursts on the Senate floor, while the President has the podium

    Ah. I see.

    Perfectly Ok to boo him though.
    :-P

  • robert108

    Bat: As you well know, the politics of racial grievance have been the key to prosperity for greedy Dem politicians for quite a long time. They show no signs of kicking the habit any time soon.

  • Bat One

    At least our accusation has basis in fact.

    Not true! As far as “racism” is concerned, I doubt that you know what the word means, much less are able to prove your accusation. Those on the Left have turned the accusation of racism into nothing more than a meaningless, hackneyed cliche. Its just one more tired insult from those who cannot defend their positions without acknowledging what and who they really are.

    You can play that race card all you want, but no honest, thinking conservative takes it seriously any more.

  • Bat One

    R108,

    True enough! If you look at who first voiced the accusation, Carter, and who here has supported it, there is no reason to take any of it seriously. Carter was irrelevant when he was president… at least on his good days he was.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    How long until Dhimmy goes under the bus? I’ll take the slot for 1 week or less…

  • sayanything-4625

    I love Carter. No one can bring the stupid like that man. The more they call people racist for opposing the President the faster that charge becomes moot.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Jimmy Peanuts has a “duty to die.” When will he do “his duty?”

  • jimmypop

    serious… who didnt see character assassination coming here? you cannot tell The one hes evil.

    all wilson needs to say is; ‘the next day they changed the law. if i was wrong, why change it?’

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    jimmypop,

    They changed the Bill. Bills do not become Law until passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President or, should he veto such a bill, until a veto override is voted out (2/3rds in favor) by both houses of Congress.

  • http://www.dragonblogger.com/ Dragon Blogger

    I don’t think the senator is a racist, but regardless it is unprofessional conduct and is not becoming of a politician who is supposed to model respect and professionalism publicly.

  • sayanything-7715

    Jimmy Carter and President BO, both one termers.

  • docdave

    So if I call Carter a liar which he has been on many occasions, then I’m a ????

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Jimmy Carter is the last person to lecture anyone on race or being racist the man is an anti semite.

  • http://goodhealthysolution.com/ bubarae

    Wow!!!…the title is very interesting guys….
    what’s obama proven as a liar?
    flexcin

  • Hannitized

    You can think Wilson was wrong to shout at Obama like that (I don’t, personally) but to say that he’s a racist is wrong.

    It’s ok to wrongfully call the President a liar in a formal setting that lower the traditional bar of civility and that honors our political institutions, but it is wrong to rightfully, or wrongfully call a man a racist???

    Huh?

    Rob, you are an all-time douche.

  • EnigmaCypher

    Who really cares what a shriveled up has-been like Jimmy Carter thinks?

  • dawneyr

    Obama was called a liar because he says he’s concerned that more Americans will die unless we bow to his State healthcare, yet he votes to kill the unborn, abortion survivors and appoints a death-care leaning czar. He uses fear-mongering and divisive rhetoric and gives false promises in the name of hope. He says he’s a Capitalist but bears every resemblance of a Communist dictator, including taking over businesses and using thuggery, scare tactics, and State dripping media to control people. He says he is a transparent president, but he’s already spent around $1.5 million dollars in taxpayer money to conceal his original long form birth certificate and other documents. Obama was called a liar because that’s what he does. NBC, ABC, CBS, and their advertisers can do nothing genuinely to change this. Congress can make a hypocritical stink about it, but all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot because more and more American voters agree with Joe Wilson. Jimmy Carter is an anti-Semite who could easily be called a racist for his continued hostilities toward the Jews, the God of Israel, and those who support Scriptural Zionism.

  • Houston

    I heard a suggestion today that I will be using from now on. I will now play the gender card.

    So when I am called racist, I will look them in the eye and tell them, “You’re just saying that because you’re a man,” and walk away.

    Yeah, it makes about as much sense as the racist argument.

  • rog

    alzheimers.

  • Onslaught

    alzheimers.

    He only wishes he had alzheimers.
    No, his real problem is that he was too stupid to realize at the time that he was elected merely as a place holder for Reagan.

  • http://stoporyouwillpokeyoureyeout.blogspot.com/ qc

    Jimmy Carter on Joe Wilson. Carter should know better anyone, that when you point a finger at someone, three more point back at you. How does Carter know what Wilson did was racist?
    Wilson spoke the truth, he did it at the wrong time and place.

  • Bat One

    It’s ok to wrongfully call the President a liar in a formal setting… blah… blah… blah.

    Wrongfully???

    But, of course, Obama DID lie! He lied about quite nearly every aspect of his so-called “health care reform” measure.

    He lied about the cost. He lied about the bill’s ballooning effect on the deficit and the national debt. (Thank you, Doug Elmendorf!) He lied about cutting $600 billion from Medicare without effecting the quality of care afforded seniors. He lied about the cost savings of so-called “preventive care.” He lied about the effect his cherished “public option” would have on private sector health care programs currently in place. He lied about people being able to keep their current coverage since business executives’ legally binding fiduciary responsibility to their companies and their stockholders would require them to drop their current coverage at 11-14% of gross in favor of a public payment (tax) of 7-8%.

    The FACT is there really isn’t very much Obama has not lied about.

    True, there is an argument to be made about public decorum and Wilson’s seeming lack of respect in calling Obama a liar. But those making the argument don’t have much credibility given their enthusiasm for Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats who called President George W. Bush a “liar” and a “loser” and worse… privately and publicly.

    When you’ve spent the past 8 years flinging mud, its more than a little disingenuous to complain that someone else has dirty fingernails.

  • robert108

    Wilson spoke the truth, he did it at the wrong time and place.

    There’s never a wrong time and place to tell the truth, especially with this administration. If they can set the time and place for telling the truth, it will be never and nowhere.

  • Hannitized

    He says he’s a Capitalist but bears every resemblance of a Communist dictator, including taking over businesses and using thuggery, scare tactics, and State dripping media to control people.

    And it’s statements like that that make the adults look over anything else you people have to say.

    That is about as whacky as any 9-11 truther could dream up.

    You guys are the fringe party of crazy talk.

  • Hannitized

    True, there is an argument to be made about public decorum and Wilson’s seeming lack of respect in calling Obama a liar. But those making the argument don’t have much credibility given their enthusiasm for Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats who called President George W. Bush a “liar” and a “loser” and worse… privately and publicly.

    Again, people like Bat One are just too ignorant of long standing American protocol in politics that make Democracy work in our country.

    The right is in a race to the bottom. They started it with talk radio, then teevee( hello Fox), and that mentality is bleeding over into their daily lives now.

    Every Dem who has criticism of Wilson has stated it is ok to say these things in private or even public, but just not on the senate floor while the President is on the podium.

    The fact that a guy like BatOne can’t understand this shows that even the least insane, of the insane posse crowd is a dunce.

    You guys are fools.

  • robert108

    Dumb little H: Which fact are you disputing; the fact that he has taken over businesses(that’s actually facism), the fact that he has sent thugs to suppress dissent, or the fact that he is striving mightily to eliminate free speech for his opponents?
    Your retort lacks any facts or logic whatsoever.

    I think “fringe party of crazy talk” more accurately describes your ravings and the ravings of your leftie buddies here.

  • southernsue

    i thought obama is half white. why are we called racists? has everybody forgotten that his mother was white as well as his grandparents that raised him? next time someone calls you a racist remind them of his white side.

    personally, he could be purple, he is a dangerous person and all the ilk that surround him.

  • http://libertarianhumor.com/ BigEdsBlog

    Yeah that’s it Jimmy. It’s not his policy but the color of his skin that fiscal conservatives hate.
    We also don’t like Nancy Pelosi because she’s a woman, Harry Reid because he’s a Mormon, you because you are a baptist and John Murtha and the late Ted Kennedy because they are Irish.
    Yeah that’s the ticket.
    Check out my take and stick around for more good comment.
    http://libertarianhumor.com/2009/09/16/jimmy-carter/

  • Dave OnFo

    Is Joe Wilson a racist? Well, he fought hard to keep the Confederate flag waving over the statehouse in his state.

    But I understand that being a supporter of the Confederates and their flag doesn’t automatically make you a racist. It’s more that the flag represents his heritage. (Part of that heritage involves owning black people – which for some reason makes black people angry. Go figure)

    Would a man like that be less likely to filter what he says because the President is black.

    I’m going to go with “yes” on this one.

    And the irony is that S.C. would have benefited more from the health plan than us MA liberals – who already have universal coverage as mandated by the state. In fact us MA liberals would be forced to chip in to insure the people of S.C. because we make more money and pay more Federal taxes per capita than they do.

    But hey, that’s ignorance for you.

  • Hannitized

    Valid points Dave.

    But don’t expect too much in the way of thoughtful rebuttal to your well reasoned response.

    This is SAB, not a blog which includes adult and intelligent conservatives.

  • robert108

    Is Joe Wilson a racist? Well, he fought hard to keep the Confederate flag waving over the statehouse in his state.

    A free speech issue. Joe Wilson doesn’t support slavery or segregation, like the Dems do.

    Another false equivalence.

  • Hannitized

    See what I mean Dave???

    Ignore R180…..he is not worth the time.

  • robert108

    Lefties always seek to ignore the truth.

  • Bat One

    But don’t expect too much in the way of thoughtful rebuttal to your well reasoned [sic] response.

    Even if Dave’s response was actually well-reasoned, which it wasn’t, it still doesn’t contradict the fact that Wilson was telling the truth when he labeled Obama a liar.

    Indeed, his entire argument, and to a less articulate extent yours as well, amounts to nothing more than a reasonably well-spoken attack on the messenger while studiously avoiding the validity of the message. Its the same sort of intellectual dishonesty offered by Jimmy Carter (and his witless, leftist supporters) in labeling Obama’s critics racists.

  • SigFan

    So to follow Dave and Hannitized’s logic, because Joe Wilson is from the South, which does have a history of racism, that automatically makes him a racist, or at minimum inclined to racism? That sounds a bit like bigotry to me – Dave and Hannitized – are you closet bigots?

  • Hannitized

    We don’t have lunatics who have uncontrolled outbursts on the Senate floor, while the President has the podium

    That new low was struck by Joe Wilson, who defends the flying of the confederate flag.

    Nuff said?

  • SigFan

    Okay then H – you are a bigot. Just wanted to be clear.

  • Bat One

    We don’t have lunatics who have uncontrolled outbursts on the Senate floor, while the President has the podium [sic]

    Still attacking the messenger, huh? Another pitiful attempt at diversion and obfuscation… exactly as I detailed above.

    Ya know, being so predictable doesn’t make what you say consequential. Quite the contrary.

  • pparets

    Hannitized claims…

    That new low was struck by Joe Wilson, who defends the flying of the confederate flag.

    … actually, it wasn’t….

    Robert KKK Byrd,(D) West Va. Ranking Democrat In The Senate

  • robert108

    We don’t have lunatics who have uncontrolled outbursts on the Senate floor, while the President has the podium

    Actually, you did that for eight years, lying, spinning and disrespecting our President in time of war.
    We have one guy tell the truth about your lying President, and you start crying like little girls.

  • Hannitized

    Both PP and R180 are on the same playbook from the lunatic fringe party.

    They both lie about Joe Wilson’s sinking to new, all-time low level of incivility.

    But……did we expect anything less?

    HAHA!

    They are the fringe friends.

  • pparets

    Hannitized claims…

    They both lie

    Please quote my lie.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times… and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”

    Robert Byrd

  • Hannitized

    The lie:

    That new low was struck by Joe Wilson, ….

    ... actually, it wasn’t….

    It was a new low, that is a fact. To claim it is not, is a lie.

  • pparets

    “I know now I was wrong.

    Mr. Wilson also apologized.

  • Hannitized

    Ah. I see.

    Perfectly Ok to boo him though.

    I believe you can hiss……..what ever the rules are……they should be followed.
    :)

  • Hannitized

    He apologized for striking the new low, which you said wasn’t………..and that claim by you, is not true.

  • pparets

    Hannitized claims…

    It was a new low, that is a fact.

    No, sir. That is NOT a fact… that is your OPINION.

  • pparets

    Hannitized claims…

    He apologized for striking the new low

    Now, THAT is a lie!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    His admonition was a historical first for someone disrespecting our President from inside the House.

    Does that makes it a new high?

  • Hannitized

    PP is so bent on defeating me at….well………something, he has lost all credibility in the process of lying about Wilson’s apology.

    I guess he figures this is a new high.

    If he didn’t apologize for his outburst, which was a new, historic low, what did he apologize for? Maybe being wrong about calling Obama a liar?

  • Hannitized

    Wilson set new low

    Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., seems to have set a precedent Wednesday night when he called the president a liar during a joint session of Congress.

    That’s the official word from House deputy historian Fred Beuttler, who says that though cheering and jeering between parties are commonplace, a single individual seldom steals the floor.

  • Hannitized

    Rep. Joe Wilson’s “You lie!” shout to President Obama “struck a new low” in our civil political debate, said USA Today in an editorial, surpassing the “previous low point,” when Democrats booed President Bush’s 2005 State of the Union speech. Sure, presidents have endured “grumbling and booing” from Congress before, especially in recent times, “but no one has disrespected the presidency as Wilson did.”

    Yes, Wilson’s outburst “sets a new low bar,” said Kathleen Parker in The Washington Post. But for all the overblown “post-Wilson harrumphing,” we forget that “histrionics” is “a time-honored tradition” in American politics. And thank goodness, too. “What’s more memorable: a president’s rehearsed assertions from the podium or a bunch of congressmen booing the leader of the free world?”

    Snickering, booing, and even soft group heckling of the president go back to at least 1993, said Juliet Lapidos in Slate. Wilson’s “loud and denigrating retort,” however, marks the first time a congressman has gone beyond “communal muttering.” And his charge of lying wouldn’t even be tolerated in Britain’s famously “raucous” Parliament.

    http://www.theweek.com/article/index/100403/Joe_Wilson_and_the_new_civility

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    In the modern gop lexicon, new low means new high.

    They really are bad for America.

  • Hannitized

    How much further will they sink?

    God only knows, and we can only hope to not fear or see the worst from the fringe element of the party.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    As Obama and the Dems pull our country out of the deep ditch the gop drove us into over the last 8 years, they will grow even more odious and radicalized.

    They are the coughed up phlegm of a bad flu.

  • robert108

    Little a-hole shouter has his own ignorant topsy-turvy view of things, as usual.

  • Hannitized

    After 8 years of do nothing but start an expensive and needless war, we are dealing with a neglected economic disaster.

    Obama is suffering the consequences of a former President, who punted a deflated ball.

    The fringe is in a rage that they had no solutions, they only have darts to throw at the guy who was brave enough to ask “let me have this mess”…….

  • Neiman

    As Obama and the Dems pull our country out of the deep ditch the gop drove us into over the last 8 years

    After 8 years of do nothing but start an expensive and needless war, we are dealing with a neglected economic disaster.

    Lies, lies and damnable lies! You cannot prove those accusations, they are only your LIBERAL OPINION having no basis in reality at all.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    We’ve had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th.

    Dumbya
    September 17, 2003

    I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.

    Dumbya

    “Greenspan told Congress in October 2008 that he was in a state of “shocked disbelief” and that the “whole intellectual edifice” had “collapsed.” House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) followed up: “In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working.”

    “Absolutely, precisely,” Greenspan replied. “You know, that’s precisely the reason I was shocked, because I have been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.”

    Neiman, I like labrador puppies.

    You’re obviously a poodle guy, huh?

  • Onslaught

    After 8 years of do nothing but start an expensive and needless war

    8 years Nine Months, oddly enough.

    How’s that Hopey McChange working out for ya’?

    When ‘Blunder Boy’ Carter crapped out in Iran he ran screaming for the nearest exit and waited for an adult to clean up the mess he made.

    Are you sure Zero is the the one to clean up, or is he merely biding his time till he can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

  • Neiman

    Hey ribby, these people are taking about you!

    Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) U.S. poet, essayist and lecturer.

    Liars are the cause of all the sins and crimes in the world.
    Epictetus (50-120) Greek philosopher.

    A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. ~ Winston Churchill

    One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived. ~ Niccolo Machiavelli

    A half-truth is a whole lie. ~ Yiddish Proverb

    Remember: One lie does not cost you one truth but the truth. ~ Christian Hebbel

  • pparets

    In case it may have escaped your notice, nowhere have I defended Mr. Wilson’s childish outburst on the floor of the House.

    It was wrong. He apologized to the President immediately afterward. The President accepted his apology.

  • ellinas

    When ‘Blunder Boy’ Carter crapped out in Iran he ran screaming for the nearest exit and waited for an adult to clean up the mess he made.
    Onslaught on September 16, 2009 at 01:20 pm

    No! it was Kermit Roosevelt who in August 1953, after the CIA-backed coup which overthrew the country’s Prime Minister, Muhammad Mossadeq, and restored the Shah, that made Iran the mess it is now.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Neiman, Jer. 5:21.

    pp, he disgrace our Congress as well.
    The admonition he received was entirely justified.

    Besides he lied when he shouted “you lie”.

    E, funny how nutters simple ignore Operation Ajax, isn’t it?

  • Onslaught

    No! it was Kermit Roosevelt who in August 1953, after the CIA-backed coup which overthrew the country’s Prime Minister, Muhammad Mossadeq, and restored the Shah, that made Iran the mess it is now.

    So when Nancy boy helped overthrow the Shah, Persia suddenly became all sweetness and light?

    In any event I never said anything about Iran of today I was specially referring to “Carters Folly” (totally made up title) which resulted in the only good thing Carter ever did for America while not on a boat.

  • Spartacus

    After 8 years of do nothing but start an expensive and needless war,

    What war was started by the previous administration? Afghanistan? Sorry dude, we were attacked by a group the former government of Afghanistan was allied with, not to mention providing safety and refuge to.

    Iraq? Sorry again dude. Hussein signed a ceasefire at the end of Dessert Storm 1, you know, the one where he invaded Kuwait. He failed to live up to the terms of the ceasefire that he agreed to. That was mearly finishing a job that Hussein started nearly a decade before.

  • ellinas

    Who really cares what a shriveled up has-been like Jimmy Carter thinks?
    EnigmaCypher on September 16, 2009 at 01:13 am

    Here is the list of the ones that care:

    Rob
    Randy-G
    Neiman
    Eneils Bailey
    bill-tb
    pete
    Gene
    mplsbob
    rodney graves
    The Whistler
    Bat One
    Dino
    Greg in Alabama
    WillHuntForFood
    Kevin
    jimmypop
    Dragon Blogger
    docdave
    Goon
    Eugene Graner
    Hannitized
    EnigmaCypher
    dawneyr
    Houston
    Rog
    Onslaught
    qc
    robert108
    southernsue
    BigEdsBlog
    DaveOnfo
    SigFan
    pparets
    Carrick
    realitybasedbob

  • robert108

    Little e-hole, you lying piece of crap: I don’t care what Peanut Carter “thinks”, if he can be said to think at all.

  • ellinas

    So when Nancy boy helped overthrow the Shah, Persia suddenly became all sweetness and light?
    Onslaught on September 16, 2009 at 01:46 pm

    Why do you ask such dumb questions when you know the asnwer?

    After all the abuse the Persians sufferd at the hands of the shah and his not so secret police SAVAK,

    Per the Internets:

    A U.S. Army colonel working for the CIA was sent to Persia in September 1953 to work with General Teymur Bakhtiar, who was appointed military governor of Tehran in December 1953 and immedi­ately began to assemble the nucleus of a new intelligence organization. The U.S. Army colonel worked closely with Bakhtīār and his subordinates, commanding the new intelligence organization and training its members in basic intelligence techniques, such as surveillance and interrogation methods, the use of intelligence networks, and organizational security. This organi­zation was the first modern, effective intelligence service to operate in Persia. Its main achievement occurred in September 1954, when it discovered and destroyed a large communist Tudeh Party network that had been established in the Persian armed forces

    In March 1955, the Army colonel was “replaced with a more permanent team of five career CIA officers, including specialists in covert operations, in­telligence analysis, and counterintelligence,including Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf (father of General H. Norman Schwarzkopf, the commander of all coalition forces for Operation Desert Shield/Storm) who “trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel.” In 1956 this agency was reorganized and given the name Sazeman-e Ettela’at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (SAVAK). In 1960/61 the CIA trainers left and were replaced by a team of instructors from the Israeli Mossad. These in turn were replaced by SAVAK’s own instructors in 1965. Chief CIA Iran analyst Jesse Leaf in an interview on 6th Jan. 1979 stated that the CIA teaches Nazi torture techniques to SAVAK.

  • ellinas

    Little e-hole, you lying piece of crap: I don’t care what Peanut Carter “thinks“, if he can be said to think at all.
    robert108 on September 16, 2009 at 02:01 pm

    big180. Stop lying to yourself and others.
    If you truly did not care about MR J. Carter, you would not have posted on this thread.

    Now sir, FUCK OFF!

  • robert108

    Lying little e-hole: I post on whatever thread I like, especially when a lying piece of crap like you tries to put words in my mouth. You got smacked with the truth, and will continue to be smacked with the truth as long as you keep lying.
    I still don’t care what Peanut Carter(or you) “thinks”; I just hold you to some standard of basic human decency.

    Now sir, FUCK OFF!

    More “civil debate” from you?

  • ellinas

    [EnigmaCypher asks:

    quote]Who really cares what a shriveled up has-been like Jimmy Carter thinks?
    EnigmaCypher on September 16, 2009 at 01:13 am

    Little e-hole, you lying piece of crap: I don’t care what Peanut Carter “thinks”, if he can be said to think at all.
    robert108 on September 16, 2009 at 02:01 pm

    Lying little e-hole: I post on whatever thread I like, especially when a lying piece of crap like you tries to put words in my mouth. You got smacked with the truth, and will continue to be smacked with the truth as long as you keep lying.
    I still don’t care what Peanut Carter(or you) “thinks”; I just hold you to some standard of basic human decency.
    robert108 on September 16, 2009 at 02:19 pm

    No shit! SOB, who stopped you from posting anywhere?
    Not me, not anyone.
    I asked a little question and you got all huffy.
    What a dunce!

  • Christiana Rose

    Hell yes. Nobody wants to say it so I am glad President Carter has the courage to tell it like it is. That’s how you know a racist, they always say, oh, “it’s not true”. “It’s not that we hate him because he is the President and he is black”, but they are so angry that Obama is President, they don’t know what to do with themselves so they oppose his policies and behave like juvies. Well, suck it up. Obama is President now, tomorrow and the next day and will be for 4 MORE YEARS. ya’ll got a long hate to go.

  • Neiman

    Christiana Rose
    Your comments were the most ignorant, incredibly stupid I have ever witnessed here at SAB. You need serious help!

    Even Lord Obama said he does not and did not consider that Wilson’s outburst was based on the color of his skin.

    If there is a racist party it is the Democrats that have held millions of people of color chained to the welfare state for decades, their own colored voter based plantation. They are the ones that say people of color are not as good as white people, they need and deserve all kinds of racial preferences. It is conservatives that say all people no matter the skin color are equal, they all just need equal access to the same opportunities, the drive and the encouragement to succeed. It is conservatives that say it is fine to help anyone without regard to skin color when they are down, but for God’s sake give them the tools to get back on their feet quickly, get a job and then build their own futures and self respect.

    Because of what Wilson said, which had no racial tones of any kind, a black Congressman in the black caucus today said white people would now get white sheets and ride the country side intimidating people of color. That is incredible, vile extremism on his part, that is racism. What about Obama’s election, with black votes in the high ninety percentile for him, these people of color were voting for him because of his skin color and that is black against white racism.

    Before I go and you jump on me for being a racist, the person I love more than anyone else in this world is a 6’4″, 225 lbs, 18-year-old young black man, my grandson. I have a grandaughter that I love dearly, she is Asian (Philipino). In short we are a multi-racial family with people of every so-called race that, came from two white parents and we never heard any racist talk in or around our home all the time we were growing up. We were never told anyone was inferior to ourseleves.

    There is no such thing as a black person. All people are one color – flesh, with different shades and tones to be sure, but all the same color- FLESH. There are no different races! There is only one race, the human race. Yes, there are ethnic and cultural differences, which in America used to fade away quickly as everyone assimilated and old barriers broke down. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

  • Hannitized
    After 8 years of do nothing but start an expensive and needless war

    8 years Nine Months, oddly enough.

    How’s that Hopey McChange working out for ya’?

    I was talking about Iraq.

    You think Afghanistan is needless? No wonder you were voted out. You guys lost all credibility when it comes to foreign policy.

  • Hannitized

    Sportispice,

    Iraq? Sorry again dude. Hussein signed a ceasefire at the end of Dessert Storm 1, you know, the one where he invaded Kuwait. He failed to live up to the terms of the ceasefire that he agreed to. That was mearly finishing a job that Hussein started nearly a decade before.

    Like I said……….it was needless, and most certainly untimely.

    You guys squandered the opportunity to finish the job in Afghanistan.

  • ellinas

    There is no such thing as a black person. All people are one color – flesh, with different shades and tones to be sure, but all the same color- FLESH. There are no different races! There is only one race, the human race. Yes, there are ethnic and cultural differences, which in America used to fade away quickly as everyone assimilated and old barriers broke down. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
    Neiman on September 16, 2009 at 03:40 pm

    Exscept of course for the Palestinians and the Israelis.
    Because some are more equal then others.
    Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

  • Hannitized

    Hell yes. Nobody wants to say it so I am glad President Carter has the courage to tell it like it is.

    I agree Christiana! Carter is a hero for telling the truth about Wilson.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Jimah Cahtah is not only a race baitin’ trouble maker but feeble minded as well

  • sayanything-2407

    Carter is a hero for telling the truth about Wilson.

    Carter is no where near the definition of a hero.

  • Neiman

    I agree Christiana! Carter is a hero for telling the truth about Wilson.

    Carter LIED! There was nothing said before, during or after to give any credence to that damnable LIE!

    Exscept of course for the Palestinians and the Israelis. Because some are more equal then others.

    More LIES from the Left! I have never said anything about the skin color or race of the Trans-Jordanian Arabs that falsely call themselves Palestinians. As human beings they are both equal, even in Israel falsely called Palestinians live, work, eat and play alongside Jews with very few problems, with the same rights as Israeli citizens. They did for centuries before many Jews returned home to Israel after the holocaust, then stirred up by Muslim terrorists-extremists outside Israel, in the falsley called Palestinian areas, those Trans-Jordanians became unequal and dirt poor because of the radical, hate filled Muslims in their midst.

    The issue is Islam versus Israel and the Jews. It is not about two religions or races fighting one another, it is about Islam and its goal to destroy Israel and to annihilate every Jew on earth. Muslims are the racists there, not the Jews.

    So, once again you liberals strike out because of your LIES and gross ignorance!

  • ellinas

    Neiman,

    I knew you would deny the existence of these people.

  • http://www.BusinessLawPC.com/ Jeffrey Nichols, Esq.

    Are the people who disagree with President Obama mostly racists? Vote here: http://eyeonthelaw.blogspot.com

  • Neiman

    I knew you would deny the existence of these people.

    More lies!

    I only deny that they should be called Palestinians, because they are in no way, shape, manner or form descendents of the Phillistines, a people more akin to Greece. They only used that name after 1952, after Israel became a State once again. They have no historical claim to one inch of the Holy Land.

    They are almost totally Trans-Jordanian, Muslim Arabs. As a people they are living in Israel territory illegally, but Israel has recognized their right to exist there, and while I think that is wrong, in the interest of peace they have conceded much of their own land to these Jordanians. The battles are between Israel and extremist Muslim terrorists falsely claiming to represent a falsely called people, to force Israel to give up their entire nation and be once again displaced persons on the earth. They, your Muslim extremist pals, do not recognize Israel’s right to exist and they believe all Jews are apes, dogs to be killed. They deny their existence.

    As a Christian I must stand by Israel when they are fighting for the Holy Land that God gave them and He declared that anyone dividing (Partition) Israel, as we are doing, will suffer His Wrath. We have the Bible and Salvation from the Jews. We should defend them!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    As a Christian I must stand by Israel when they are fighting for the Holy Land that God gave them and He declared that anyone dividing (Partition) Israel, as we are doing, will suffer His Wrath. We have the Bible and Salvation from the Jews. We should defend them!

    JERUSALEM — Israel has confiscated thousands of acres of Palestinian farmland to build a segment of its contentious separation barrier near the Jewish settlement of Ariel deep in the West Bank, Palestinian officials said Monday.

    Are the Israelis pissing off the Christian God all by themselves?

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    Which is still miles ahead of the Democrats as (ably) represented by Fortney “Pete” Starke.

  • Neiman

    Israel has confiscated thousands of acres of Palestinian farmland to build a segment of its contentious separation barrier near the Jewish settlement of Ariel deep in the West Bank, Palestinian officials said Monday.

    If your extremist Muslim friends would stop shooting missiles into Israel and killing innocentt Jews these barriers would not be needed. Tell your friends to stop killing Jews and they come down!

    How can they confiscate Palestinian farmlands when there is no such thing as a Palestinian, except the Jews were at one time called Palestinians. That is all Israeli land, not one inch belongs to anyone else.

  • ellinas

    They, your Muslim extremist pals, do not recognize Israel’s right to exist and they believe all Jews are apes, dogs to be killed. They deny their existence.
    Neiman on September 16, 2009 at 05:04 pm

    More lies from you, as I have no Muslim extremist pals, or any Muslim pals for that matter.

    Let me say this: It is my lifelong dream and prayer that the Israelis and Palestinians peacefully coexist and live together.
    It is also my lifelong dream that Christian bigots and agitators stay the fuck away from those people.

    Your sermon which I quote is worthless:

    As a Christian I must stand by Israel when they are fighting for the Holy Land that God gave them and He declared that anyone dividing (Partition) Israel, as we are doing, will suffer His Wrath. We have the Bible and Salvation from the Jews. We should defend them!

    What you stand for is not Gods love and peace message.
    You stand for the continuation of the war, because you think that if the Israelis prevail (the sooner the better)
    Jesus second coming will happen like…..yesterday.

    Therefore the well being and welfare of the Jewish people is immaterial to your kind. Y’all want this war for your own selfish reasons.

  • robert108

    Israel has confiscated thousands of acres of Palestinian farmland…

    “Farmland????” Are you smoking crack, or something? Please give us those “palestinian” agricultural production figures, if you can find any.

  • ellinas

    r180,

    You are the one smoking crack.

    The products in question are: Olives, olive oil, honey, cheese oranges, milk, yogurt etc.

  • ellinas

    Whistler,

    Are you talking to me?

  • ellinas

    Anybody that has brains knows that the Palestinians engage in sustenance farming.
    Therefore anyone with brains would know that agricultural production figures do not exist.
    r180 asked a question that has no answer.

    Anyone that is buying what this nut is selling, is a bigger nut.

  • Neiman

    What you stand for is not Gods love and peace message.
    You stand for the continuation of the war, because you think that if the Israelis prevail (the sooner the better)
    Jesus second coming will happen like…..yesterday. Therefore the well being and welfare of the Jewish people is immaterial to your kind. Y’all want this war for your own selfish reasons.

    You are a certified idiot!

    If you knew anything about the Bible, you would know that Israel is the Apple of God’s Eye, His Chosen people and He warned the world that anyone that tries to Divide His Land (Israel) as we are now doing, will suffer His sure and terrible Wrath. It is God that defends Israel! How else could such a small nation beat the hundreds of millions of Arabs surrounding them and be the center of attention in the whole world for almost all human history? Because the world hates God and they must hate His Chosen People, like you do.

    God also said that when people, like you did, cry out peace, peace concerning the Holy Land, “suddenly” destruction would come upon the world. Not because anyone wants war there or hates the so-called Palestinians, it will be caused by those imposing peace.

    Until Christ comes again, the Jews will come very near total destruction in Israel, they will nearly be wiped out. So, no an Israeli victory will not bring about peace. It is the peacemakers that will almost wipe out the Jews, not Christians.

    What is true Love? It is not saccahrine sweet, it is tough love! It is self-sacrificing, selfless and it is willing to endure insults and attacks, if by exposing sin, even one sinner can be saved. John the Baptist exposed sin, as did Jesus and the Apostles. They condemned sin, they all spoke in holy anger against sin, because they loved the children of the world and loved sinners. It is you that would silence those that speak against sin and your toleration of sin that shows no love for the lost, you hate Israel, you are selfish, wanting to be thought kindly of even if your kind of silence sends hundreds or thousands of people you meet to hell.

    No you know neither the Bible, the Spirit of Christ, the Love of Christ or God’s views about Israel, to say what you have said.

  • robert108

    Lying little e-hole: All farming is “sustenance” farming, since it produces sustenance; maybe you meant to say “subsistence” farming, which means “just enough to live on”; in either case, fool, there would be production statistics, if they were civilized enough to keep them. Actually, the so-called “palestinians”(actually Jordanian refugees Jordan doesn’t want) are only able to live because they receive massive subsidies from their terrorist buddies.
    Even if the savages don’t keep statistics, your claim of “farmland” is unsupported by any facts. In other words, you just made it up.

  • Hannitized

    Jimmy Carter makes the rights head explode.

    They fear him, because he told the truth. He is a hero.

  • robert108

    Proof: The idea that anyone is afraid of doddering Jimmy Carter is laughable. Even when he was President, the terrorists and radicals didn’t feat him. He enabled the destabilization of the ME, which is a source of trouble and murder to this day. He’s about as weak as it’s possible to be, and still be alive. Only a crackhead like little H would think otherwise.

  • Hannitized

    More head exploding from R180.

  • robert108

    Crackhead little H gets everything backward, while managing to lack any originality in his insane “retorts”. Pathetic.

  • Hannitized

    Jimmy Carter’s remark is profoundly accurate, and a reflection of the right-wing fringe party of today.

    They are scared shitless of him.

  • DINO

    No one flew planes into towers when Carter was President. That happened on bush’s watch. A conservative republican.

    The previous single incident, largest loss of American life during peacetime was when right wing republican McVeigh blew up that government building with the day care center in it.

    Before that, the largest loss of life in peacetime was when the Marines barracks was blown up in Beirut, again when a tough guy republican was president.

    Coincidence?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    And I suppose our criticism of Jimmy Carter is based on the fact that he is a white man?
    You people really need to get real!

  • ellinas

    Big lying r180. Subsistence farming does not require statistics. It is for the sustenance of the owner of the land.
    A Bedouin with 100 sheep, or goats reports to no one how much cheese or yogurt they made.
    Quit making up stuff.

  • ellinas

    Neiman! Your anger and intolerance comes out easily.
    You passionately believe that your version of Christianity is the correct one.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    If you knew anything about the Bible, you would know that the old testament was fulfilled with the crucifixion of Jesus and we are now under the New testament where among other things we find this gold nugget:

    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus’ (Gal 3:28).

  • Neiman

    Ellinas: You cannot possibly know what is in the heart of someone by the written word, emotions of the writer are very difficult to discern. I am not easily angered at all. Being direct and uncompromising is often mistaken for anger, when it is only a reflection of confidence in one’s beliefs. It seems that you are interpreting anger as being in my words, perhaps because they make you easily angry and expose your own hatred, not mine.

    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus’ (Gal 3:28).

    Not but that there were such in being; and in the churches of Christ, for the primitive churches consisted of both; but the meaning is, that there is no difference between them, the middle wall of partition being broken down, and that, in the business of justification and salvation, it signified nothing whether a man was a Jew or a Greek; he was never the better for being a circumcised Jew, nor never the worse for being an uncircumcised Gentile; both by nature are equally sinners, and stand in need of the justifying righteousness of Christ, and the regenerating grace of the Spirit. The Gospel was equally preached to both, and was made useful to some of the one and of the other; and who, believing in Christ, had a right to the same ordinances and privileges of the Gospel, and shared in the same blessings of grace.

    The qualifier herein is whether or not one is really IN Christ Jesus, whether they have been born again of His Spirit and share His Life. Otherwise, outside of His Salvation, these distinctions between people remain in force.

    You accuse me: “You passionately believe that your version of Christianity is the correct one.” Why would I defend my faith and pronounce my faith to others if I did not passionately believe it was the correct one. I would have to be a fool to be willing to die for Christ and yet have any serious doubts about my path. We are to walk completely committed according to the Light we are given!

    All you need do is use Scripture to show me where I am wrong and if I fail to be able to counter your interpretations to the satisfaction of my own heart by the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I would cheerfully change my beliefs as the Truth is more important that my ego. But, no you just say I am wrong because it seems to me that your faith is without any passion at all, it is not apparent to me that it is something you live by every moment of your life, so much so that you are willing to endure attacks and insults that you might be used to save even one soul.

  • ginger

    First off he is racist… didn’t wilson vote to keep the confederate flag… who the hell would want that… a RACIST. A lot of white american’s need to really ask themselves why they hate Obama so much and it has everything to do with race. He is half white which means he is half you. When they stop hanging nooses and people down in the south then I will start believing it is a non-race issue. I went to college down south and racism is alive and kicking and that is where this outrage is coming from. Be honest just say “I don’t like him because he is black” or whatever word you would use. Jimmy Carter is right and like they say ignorance is bliss and that is what a lot of you are.. Ignorant

  • sayanything-2407

    Displaying the flag

    The display of the Confederate flag remains a highly controversial and emotional topic, generally because of disagreement over the nature of its symbolism.

    Opponents of the Confederate flag see it as an overt symbol of racism, both for the history of racial slavery in the United States, and the establishment of Jim Crow laws by Southern states following the end of Reconstruction in late 1870s, enforcing racial segregation within state borders for nearly a century until the Civil Rights Movement. Some hate groups use the Southern Cross as one of the symbols associated with their organizations, including racist groups such as the Neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.[17] The flag is also sometimes used by separatist organizations such as the Aryan Nations. It is important to note, however, that the official flag of the Ku Klux Klan, as stated by this organization itself, is the flag of the United States of America, not the CSA battle flag. The Aryan Nation also uses the U.S. flag as well as the Christian flag displayed in some Protestant churches.
    Supporters of the flag view it as a symbol of heritage and the freedom of the distinct cultural tradition of the South from the oppression of Northern government. Also, in light of some schools and universities banning it as a racist symbol in their “speech codes”, it could also be seen as a symbol of freedom of speech.[18]

    White southerners often see the flag as merely a symbol of southern culture, a “country music flag” without any political or racial connotation. An example of this would be the Bocephus Rebel Flag often sold at concerts performed by country music star Hank Williams, Jr or Kevin Fowler, heavy metal band Pantera, and southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd. For some, the flag represents only a past era of southern sovereignty.[19] Some historical societies such as the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the United Daughters of the Confederacy also use the flag as part of their symbols. Also some rockabilly fans hold the Confederate flag as their emblem.[20]

    As a result of these varying perceptions, there have been a number of political controversies surrounding the use of the Confederate flag in Southern state flags, at sporting events, at Southern universities, and on public buildings. According to Civil War historian and native Southerner Shelby Foote, the flag traditionally represented the South’s resistance to Northern political dominance; it became racially charged during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s, when fighting against desegregation suddenly became the focal point of that resistance.

    Symbols of the Confederacy remain a contentious issue across the United States and have been debated vigorously in many Southern state legislatures over their civic placement since the 1990s.

    Link

    Perception has much to do with how someone looks at this.

    So because the KKK and Aryan nation uses the American Flag in its racist propaganda that the American Flag should not be used?

    It is all in how something is perceived.

  • sayanything-2407

    The entire State of Mississippi has been flying it over all of their government buildings since 1894. Texas flies the Stars and Bars at every governmental building as well (along with the other five flags to have flown over Texas). The reason behind the desire to honor symbols of the Confederacy is not racism. It instead stems from a regional identity and the noble notions of state sovereignty. These feelings of regional unity are only strengthened by the poor economic situation in many Southern states, and the sense they have that they suffer in poverty while the Northern states enjoy prosperity. It is understandable as well, only one Southern state makes the top ten ranks for average personal income, and then only comes in at 9th. Meanwhile, half of the states in the lowest ten ranks of personal income are in the South. Add to this economic stagnation and decay and you have a recipe for regional resentment.

    The false notion that the Battle Flag must be a racist symbol is born of the mistaken belief that the Civil War was about slavery. This bit of propaganda has been repeated ever since President Lincoln and his political allies decided to “free the slaves” (in actuality Lincoln only freed those slaves in the Confederacy, slaves in Union states such as Maryland and West Virginia remained slaves). The truth, however, is plain to anyone who wishes to delve into the history, and the proof lies in the proposed Corwin Amendment of 1861. This amendment was proposed by Congressman Thomas Corwin (R) from Ohio and stated,

    No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.

    Prior to his election, Lincoln had voiced his support of the amendment. Like many politicians of his time, Lincoln believed in the preservation of the Union beyond all else. When the Bill was brought before the House seven states had already formally left the Union (Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina) never the less the bill passed 133-65 and was forwarded to the Senate. In March of 1861 the Senate approved the bill 24-12. Both of these votes were from a Northern majority, seeing as most of the South had already left. Both the outgoing President, James Buchanan, and the newly elected Abraham Lincoln publicly endorsed the amendment. In fact, during Lincoln’s inaugural address he had this to say of the Corwin Amendment,

    I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution–which amendment, however, I have not seen–has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied Constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.

    The amendment went on to be ratified by Ohio, Maryland, and then Illinois before the outbreak of the Civil War halted the process of adopting the new amendment. Now ask yourself, if the Civil War was really about slavery why didn’t the Corwin Amendment, already passed by the Federal Legislature and well on its way to ratification (given the three free states which had ratified it, and the 15 slave states which would as well, only four more states would have needed to ratify it), end the conflict? The Northern states had already compromised on slavery. The truth is that the Civil War was not about slavery, it just became popular to create propaganda to make it seem so because it gave the Union an image of moral superiority.

    Despite these facts, I still oppose the use of the Confederate Flag and applaud Obama’s statement. Not because the flag is racist, but because flying it, especially on government property, is treason. The Confederate flag represents a nation which declared open war on the United States and attempted to do her harm. No matter what the basis of the original grievances, flying that flag now suggests a willingness to rebel against the United States of America, and suggests a certain disloyalty towards our nation. As such it is a treasonous act and one to be held in contempt. The symbols of the defeated CSA should be relegated to museums for future generations to learn about, and they should be retired from active use.

    < a href="http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-confederate-flag/">Link

    I agree in this, that State governments should not be flying the Confederate Battle Flag which in that time was used as a symbol of an act of war against the United States.

  • Spartacus

    From the left POV everybody that opposes any of Obamas ideas is a racist. So maybe someone on the left should try to explain to Kevin Jackson that he too is a racist.

  • pete_fgo

    Billy’s brother will have a legacy of proving the existence of vampires. There is no other viable reason for this national embarrassment to continue to waste oxygen.

  • sayanything-6955

    If you ask me, Jimmy Carter ought to apologize to Wilson.

    If any one pisses me off worse than Obama, it is this POS Carter!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    Wilson is just showing off how f**king classy the GOP is.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    Rodney: THEY DID IT FIRST/WORST.

    The ‘small child’ defense… as in the age of the arguer.

  • sayanything-2483

    No one flew planes into towers when Carter was President. That happened on bush’s watch. A conservative republican.

    After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 5,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C. who are now dead would be alive today.

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