Truthfully I only know bare bones info on Murtha. I formed my opinion on how he handled the situation w/ the Marines. I saw a piece on t.v., don’t know what show, but some little no-name reporter was trying to ask him if he would apologise to the marines who had beeen acquitted. He muttered a bunch of crap, then rushed and got into the private elevator so the guy couldn’t follow. So, I will form my opinion strictly on this. Total cowardice. If the people there in PA don’t mind him, I guess that’s their problem.

Isn’t this the same democrat, a few years ago, taking money for some vote or something illegal? There is so many of them I get confused.

They should dump the moron.

Thanks for the info Woof. That doesn’t change that he’s been a joke in Congress.

Washington does that to most.

nice continuation of the rational ad hominim.

Do you know what ad hominen means, you dumb fuck?

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

How does that apply to what I said?

Does that mean that anytime I point out the stupidity of what the Marxist poodle says and point out that it doesn’t apply it’s an ad hominem attack?

what about the truth value of the statement Murtha made?

Can you read, you idiot?

Here’s what I wrote about Murtha that you chose to ignore :

For once Murtha is right. The heavily Democratic western part of Pennsylvania is racist. Murtha’s 17 terms is proof of that, they keep voting for an old white bigot to represent them in congress.

I’m waiting for the former exalted cyclops of the KKK to admit the same thing about West Virginia.

Come on, Robert Byrd, man up.

Bullwinkle on October 16, 2008 at 04:47 am

Sparkie, you are quite possibly the stupidest Marxist I ever had the dishonor of reading comments from. Keep on commenting, Leftard, we all get a laugh out of it, and you. What a dumbass.

It is time the good people of PA send this clown home for good. This guy is a disgrace.

We have racists on both sides or many sides it makes no difference how a person thinks it is their right to discriminate in their minds and it can go into the voting booth but to describe an entire section of a state as being racist is a bit over the top. Let me ask a hypothetical question , “if you had a twenty dollar bill and you had to give it to one of two people and one was black and one was white , now for the sake of this question let us assume you are black, which person would get the twenty? now you also know neither one of these people would it be racist to give it to the person the same race as you are? not with standing pressure from any one who would get the twenty , I say the person of the same race as you are . Now that could describe the area that Murtha was speaking of would it then make them racist? I don’t think it would, we all tend to stay with in our own groups be it white black or just a common group of ideas.I have never been approached by a black person to be invited to dinner , I have on occasion mentioned coming to dinner to some of my friends who happen to be black. I do not harbor bad feelings over not being invited but I have been hurt because my invitation was rejected. My goodness people we are all human beings and this race thing is just a way of making money for the likes of AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson , the reason Jackson wanted to cut the family jewels from Barrack was because he is upstaging him and wants to continue his race baiting so he can collect 200 bucks and go past go and not go to jail ,….. You only have to look to sports and the mini series on Television to see that the black community is well represented there I enjoy a lot of the shows as they are funny. I like to see black people excel in sports they work hard and deserve the money they make they show the true American spirit and it is all about being what you can be. I also like to see my race excel in sports and I enjoy seeing them reach out for the gold . this race for president is not about race it is about experience against no experience .

And we better support Russell, because the PA RNC is in the bag for their boy Murtha.

Murtha continualy says the wrong thing. Votes the wrong thing. Does the wrong thing. Everyone posting here says the same thing. He’s abusive to our Troops, and many others.
For this man to be a 17-term Democratic congressman is Ludicrous.

Something is wrong with this picture….

jakoff has been since the very first day he stole an election in Johnstown.

Now, spark, tell us again how your Party, the Democrat Party, has never committed voter fraud, manipulated banking,investing,mortgage regulations, and stolen billions of tax payer’s dollars during the last 5 decades. We never get tired of laughing at your unemployable ass.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

Nice try Marxist scumbag. You left out the part I put in bold to make your lie seem honest. Now please show us where I didn’t address the the substance of the argument.

Lying Marxist piece of shit.

I’d add cocksucker to that but you wouldn’t be offended by being called cocksucker so it just goes without saying.

For once Murtha is right. The heavily Democratic western part of Pennsylvania is racist. Murtha’s 17 terms is proof of that, they keep voting for an old white bigot to represent them in congress.

I’m waiting for the former exalted cyclops of the KKK to admit the same thing about West Virginia.

Come on, Robert Byrd, man up.

Checkout ABSCAM, Butler. Video and audio of Murtha arranging to receive bribes and kickbacks, up until the point he got tipped off that the FBI was getting ready to burn his ass, at which point he ducked and dodged and told everyone he was part of the sting, not its target. What a lying piece of shit.

I don’t know about racist but I do know that the people who have voted for him are stupid.

The 4% loss for Barry is easily offset by the voter fraud in Philly and Pittsburgh. Philly is on equal par with Chicago.

atease

Murtha’s kind believe everyone else is stupid and they don’t realize these kinds of things piss off people, especially those without a hint of racism in their body.

obama is going to lose.

17 terms? Western PA deserves this headache, its a shame the rest of us Americans have to listen to his foolishness. The treasonous bastard should have been out of office many, many terms ago.

If you vote against Obama, it makes you a racist. Never thought I was, but I guess now I am a racist. Obama is a socialist and Murtha is a traitor.

Do you know what ad hominen means, you dumb fuck?

How does that apply to what I said?

Feel free to reread your comment, ass. What I said is tack on.

replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim

you do this when you say “traitor” and “Marxist poodle”

rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim

let us recall that the claim is that Murtha’s claim that

“There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area.”

are we clear, jackass? respond to the claim. you have given us a picture perfect example of an argument ‘against the man’. feel free to begin thinking now.

Good point WOOF.

How quickly the exceptions come raining down. Silly you, thinking high school insults issuing from the rightwing commentators could ever be wrong.

So are you guys maintaining that Murtha is wrong? What do all these ad hominims have to do with his statement? He’s either wrong or right. How is that tied to his former military career or hotel’s experience with drill sergeants?

Who is running against Murtha this year? And how can we help him/her?