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Monday, October 23, 2006


Is The Media Being Willfully Stupid On The “Stay The Course” Controversy?

Over the weekend the New York Times reported that the Bush administration is considering a “timetable” for the mission in Iraq.  The insinuation from the Times and others in the media was that said “timetable” represented a reversal of previous Bush administration policy which strongly resisted any sort of specific timetable for Iraq.

The Bush administration suggesting that a change in tactics means that the President is reversing on his “stay the course” message.

So the Bush administration responds to that insinuation by pointing out that a change in tactics doesn’t mean that we’re deviating from the overall goal in Iraq, which is to stay there until the mission is complete.  Something which, in turn, generates headlines like this:

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Frustrating, isn’t it?

Here the Bush administration is trying to take an honest look at the tactics we’re using to complete our mission in Iraq, and the media can’t do anything but distort.  They’re obviously being willfully stupid in all this.  These journalists cannot possibly be so dumb as to not be able to recognize the difference in a shift in tactics/strategy in Iraq and a shift in the mission.

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If they can’t ‘win’ or make their point legitimately, the lie about what was said.  Shameless.


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Chief RZ on October 23, 2006 at 03:37 pm
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It’s the Iraqi government that has to change the course it is in, ..

Maj. Hussein al-Qaisi, a battalion commander with the 1st Brigade, 6th Iraqi Army Division, says he often gets phone calls from government officials when he arrests suspected high-ranking militia leaders, both Sunni and Shiite.

“Sometimes they’ll back them up no matter what,” said al-Qaisi, whose unit is in northwest Baghdad. “We have to let them go.”

aNONOMISLY on October 23, 2006 at 05:03 pm
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No one should be confused with what the Liberal media is trying to do. They are trying to do anything they can to score political points against Bush and the GOP. If you hear something is bad long enough you start to believe it.

If the people of this country prove to be this stupid you will see Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house. That should be enough to scare people. Wait till they find out how liberal she is.

Goon on October 23, 2006 at 05:06 pm

“Stay the course” is just a mindless buzz phrase from the sixties parroted by Woodard and Bernstein wannabees.


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Kevin on October 23, 2006 at 05:33 pm

Nothing new here; first the MSM accuses the President of not having a plan in Iraq, which is a lie; then, when he says for the tenth time what his plan is, they accuse him of being rigid, and sticking to his plan no matter what; then when he announces what he has been doing all along, which is adapting to the enemy response, he is misquoted as if he can’t stick with any plan.  It’s all lies, anyway, since the truth is that his plan is doing very well.  The most intense fighting comes at the end, when the enemy is desperately trying anything to try to pull out a win when defeat looks inevitable.


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Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 23, 2006 at 06:35 pm

The Iraq strategy has never been stay the course.

You’ve got to admit that this is quite funny.


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MikeAdamson on October 23, 2006 at 07:27 pm
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The response from the Bush administration on this has been something less than masterful, but I think it’s pretty clear that the media is distorting.


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Rob on October 23, 2006 at 07:35 pm
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this is just too funny.  for the past year all you guys have been assailing the democrats as “cut and runners” and that we needed to “stay the course”.  That’s all you all could repeat day after day, hour after hour, name me one Republican who didn’t use that phrase in the last year. 

You guys are just too precious.  Stay the course is now biting you all in the butt and you are now denying that “Stay the Course” was ever used.  Oh now is has another meaning.  Sort of reminds me of the “definition of ‘is’ is”. 

god, you guys are just pathetic. You see the Iraq war spiraling out of control for months and did nothing but scream “stay the course” when the democrats were saying we needed to change the course.  You assailed the dems at every corner and now you are following what the dems were saying in the first place.

So keep spinning and spinning, you all must be positively dizzy today. it’s the media’s fault as usual or it’s Clinton’s fault, or the Dem’s fault.  I’m actually enjoying you all trying to spin “stay the course” into we’re changing direction.  Thanks for the laugh today guys.

Puzzlefeet on October 24, 2006 at 04:32 am

So, just what is the new course?


Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

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realitybasedbob on October 24, 2006 at 04:57 am

I think they’re playing Augusta this week.


“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ”

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MikeAdamson on October 24, 2006 at 05:01 am
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Doncha know, RBB, we are now going to get milestones and benchmarks but no dates.  Now make sure you understand this, RBB, this is not, I repeat not, a timetable. It is milestones and benchmarks.

And quit using “stay the course” cuz you know that’s not what is really meant by “Stay the course”.  It now means that we are in a constant state of motion in Iraq according to Bush.  Apparently RBB you are unable to keep up with current events as they are rapidly unfolding in our Stay the course er constant state of motion course in our war in Iraq.

Puzzlefeet on October 24, 2006 at 05:02 am
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Is it easy to be this willfully stupid, Puzzle, or do you have to work at it?

I mean, seriously?  I want to know.  Because you could almost put this down as a talent on your resume.


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Rob on October 24, 2006 at 05:04 am
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Oh, and RBB, remember we are winning in Iraq, all that stuff you are seeing on TV with the sectarian violence, that’s all Al qaeda.  It’s not a civil war, cuz we’re winning in Iraq.  This is all media hype showing all that warring over there.  This is all the MSM’s fault, how dare they show the bloodshed much less tell us about it.  Why aren’t they showing us all the good stuff that is going on?

come on RBB bloggers like you and I need to get with the program here on Say Anything. We’re winning in Iraq and we are no longer to use Stay the Course, which they weren’t using in the first place and we will now have a milestones and benchmarks for Iraq but no timetable.  I think I have it down now.

Puzzlefeet on October 24, 2006 at 05:07 am
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Puzzle, do you even stop to consider what the consequence are for withdrawing from Iraq or is it just bash Republicans all the time with you?

In the past you’ve said that you support sending more troops into Iraq.  Now you’re implying that Iraq is a lost cause.

Why do you want to send more troops to a lost cause?

Typical Democrat.  They have a stance on Iraq.  It’s whatever is opposite of Bush.  Because, you know, that’s helpful as we try to complete our mission.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 24, 2006 at 05:11 am
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Typical Republican. “We got you into this mess, now how would you get us out?!”

Have you even stopped to consider what consequence would be for staying in Iraq indefinately? Our illegal occupation has already more generations of terrorists, how many more enemies do we really want to make?

To paraphrase the great David Cross - A war on terror is like a war on jealousy. How do you win that?

You don’t.

Chad on October 24, 2006 at 05:17 am
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You win the war on terror by changing the conditions that cause terror.  You topple the oppressive, totalitarian regimes in the middle east and replace them with representative government.

It isn’t an easy process, but it’s much preferable to hanging out here in America trying to hide behind our borders.  Isolationism has never, ever worked.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 24, 2006 at 05:19 am
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No Rob, it’s that you all will continue to stick your heads in the sand, will attack the Dems as cut and runners when you yourselves refuse, adamantly refuse to be honest with the citizens about what is happening in Iraq and you continue to put our soldiers in harms way because you refuse to change directions in Iraq. 

You Rob cannot point at me and claim that I want to abandon Iraq simply because I “bash the republicans” on this issue nor can you say that I want to withdraw from Iraq.  I, am for putting more troops in their to get the job done.  You on the other hand are a one trick pony, stay the course and attack the democrats as cut and runners.  What the dems want is a plan for victory that is more than rhetoric and slogans that come back to haunt the sloganeers.  What the dems want is a plan of action that shows measurable steps of progress not just “hey we’re gonna being in Iraq for many presidents to come.”  What the dems want and now do so many republicans is for the Iraqis to stop killing Americans and stand up for their own country and to stop killing each other.

so rob, perhaps it is you who should stop bashing Democrats because they are asking for a change in direction because obviously what is happening in Iraq just ain’t working and perhaps Rob, you should hold you party accountable for their mistakes, but no, rob, you are going to hold your nose and vote republican.  Yeah, that’s the ticket Rob, more of the same from you.  So typical!

Puzzlefeet on October 24, 2006 at 05:20 am
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Puzzle, your party’s entire policy for Iraq can be summed up with “Redeploy the troops.  Maybe to Okinawa.”

Talk about heads in the sand…

If you do support sending more troops into Iraq you certainly haven’t been consistent on it.  And you’re just about the only Democrat I know supporting that.  Plus, what are you going to do should Bush send in more troops and your Dems start yammering about sending more troops into the meat grinder?

Will you criticize your party or will you join them?  Because I’m guessing you’ll go the hypocrite route.

President Bush is trying to complete the mission in Iraq while you Democrats are all busy stabbing him in the back over politics.


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Rob on October 24, 2006 at 05:34 am

Don’t you wish we could go back to a time when people didn’t die in wars and when our enemies liked us?

Remember those times?

Yeah,...me neither.

And Chad? Buy a clue. The war/occupation is not “illegal”.

likwidshoe on October 24, 2006 at 05:57 am
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You win the war on terror by changing the conditions that cause terror.  You topple the oppressive, totalitarian regimes in the middle east and replace them with representative government.

You do recall that the 9/11 hijackers were not Iraqis, right?  They were mostly Saudis.  They were funded and organized by Bin Laden, another Saudi.

So are we going to topple the Saudi regime?  Of course not, the Saudi royal family are great friends and benefactors of the Bush royal family.  But heck, 9/11 is a good excuse to invade Iraq, the great enemy of the Bush royal family.

Oh, yeah. Iraq is supposed to be a shining example to the Saudi regime.  As soon as they see how wonderful Iraq has become under our tutelage, the Saudis will step aside and allow democracy to flower in their midst.  Is that how the fairy tale goes?

Will on October 24, 2006 at 06:05 am
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Exactly what Will said, and that is what makes our occupation illegal. Every justification the Bush administration has given for being in Iraq has turned out to be incorrect or a flat out lie.

Chad on October 24, 2006 at 06:11 am
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Wow.  After all the money the Clintons have been pulling in from Saudi consulting and talks I never thought they’d go back to those arguments.

FlyOnTheWall on October 24, 2006 at 07:18 am
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