Is Obama Planning A $3 Trillion Tax Increase?

It sure sounds that way listening to Obama administration economist Christine Romer:

But the chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers admitted that health reform and a growing economy isn’t enough to bring down the deficit. She did mention one other place that revenue could come from: letting the Bush tax cuts expire.

So how does that translate into a $3 trillion tax hike? James Pethokoukis explains:

Since Obama already wants to get rid of the income and capital gains tax cuts for wealthier Americans that expire at the end of 2010, clearly what Romer is referring to is the rest of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts. Letting all the 2001 cuts — rate reductions, child tax credit marriage penalty relief — expire would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019. (These CBO numbers assume no negative economic feedback impact from higher taxes.) And letting the 2003 tax cuts on capital gains and dividends expire would be tantamount to a $350 billion tax increase through 2019. And none of this includes possible plans for a VAT that could raise $400 billion a year more to close the huge projected gap — maybe 7 percentage points — between spending as a percentage of GDP and revenues as a percentage of GDP.

That’s well over $3 trillion out of our economy and into the government.
Assuming, of course, that these new taxes would dampen the economic transactions that produce the revenue. Which, of course, they will. When you tax something you get less of it.
What’s sad is that for all Obama’s blather about deficit reduction, this is actually his solution. No spending cuts from the government’s already exorbitant budgets. Just more taxes taken out of America’s already staggering economy.
This isn’t going to end well.

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  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    This is a stark illustration of the folly of worshipping "a balanced budget". The only way to economic health is to cut the wasteful social spending…by about 75%. Put America back to work.

  • http://blast-off-network.net blastoffnetwork

    I really wonder what politicians think. Do they really understand how the real world works or are they purposefully trying to screw it up? They all live in some alternate reality. Even Bush who I'm happy gave us some tax cuts but then goes out and blows a bunch of money on more wasteful spending.

    I just don't get it.

  • sayanything-4808

    What is there to get?

    They are sociopaths. Self-centered, narcissistic, emotionally limited, manipulative, limited in conscience and having muted moral and ethical senses and a stunted sense of empathy. That is what most politicians are by default. Our political system only encourages because we the people don't want to do the thinking or feeling in depth that is required for a proper representative democracy. By avoiding responsibility, they step in to offer the solution to every problem real, imagined, yet to be, or otherwise and we let them until they in their infinite lack of foresight rouse us from our blissful ignorance and throw control to another bunch of people equally unworthy of the responsibilities.

    We welcome opportunistic social predators because we won't do what we should and be adults and think for farther than five minutes into the future. We'd rather react emotionally for the high and avoid ideas that intimidate or put effort upon us in the slightest.

    We'd rather be fuzzy thinking dreamers than fix what we created when we elected these people who are by and large even worse because the vast majority are lawyers, and have sat through psychology and sociology related courses during their legal education. They know better, but they care less than we do. We institutionalize them by putting them in charge of us. What does that say about us?

    In the demented minds of people like Dino, that all is an actually accepted, internalized, and greatly desired fact. Liberals more than anyone else look down their noses on all mankind and discount them having any possibility of change and growth and cynically believe the people get what they deserve and will never deserve anything more.

    Conservatives are a step beyond that in that you cannot hold people responsible for their behavior unless you on some level accept that they are indeed capable of doing so.

    At least there's a little hope for mankind in conservatism's refusal to stop fighting man's darker side. Unfortunately, it isn't nearly focused and disciplined enough and the whole thing skidded off the tracks with the Neocons who were leftist-style conservatives. Opportunistic, cynical, and not seriously believing half the things they say. That's why the Republicans need to draw a line and set an ideological standard and purge those who'd destroy themselves in nihilistic self-aggrandizement in the shortest term at the greatest cost to everyone else.

    Wait till the tax increases hit and see if people don't start to get a sense that the only way to fight this is to refine the opposition and get them on one coherent page.

  • http://blast-off-network.net blastoffnetwork

    I hear you and like you I feel the same way about politicians.

    The path to hell isn't paved with good intentions it's paved with Lawyers and politicians.

  • sayanything-9974

    They will kill the golden goose. If people aren't making any money or working there won't be any available for taxes. We can all just go on welfare and let the Democraps print more money. Then we will have time to stand in long line waiting for toilet paper or bread or health care. Why work – the government will take it away. Oh yeah – that is the lesson to be learned from communism. I don't think the US will go quietly into that (commie utopia) good night. Give me Liberty or Give me Death.

  • Bobopapal

    While you all are so terribly worried about the effect of future tax increases on the economy, can anyone explain to me how the economy imploded with all of Bush's tax reductions still in place?

  • Brent

    "While you all are so terribly worried about the effect of future tax increases on the economy, can anyone explain to me how the economy imploded with all of Bush's tax reductions still in place?"

    Yes.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    While you're blaming politicians, take notice of those who elected them. Our only salvation is an informed electorate; in this time, a pissed-off, informed electorate that knows basic economics would take care of things.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    I guess you're late to the party, because it is common knowledge that the mortgage bubble has been building since Carter; the modest tax rate cuts only delayed the cumulative effect of Dem social engineering and wasteful social spending since FDR. The real bad programs all come from either the "New Deal" period or from the forty years the Dems ran the House: 1954-1994. All spending bills originate in the House, and the problem, as always, is with spending. Welfare should be left to the States, which can't print their own money.
    Federal welfare spending is, by definition, out of control.

  • sayanything-2

    "Is Obama Planning A $3 Trillion Tax Increase?"

    Yes. Next question.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Simple: Spending growth was faster than revenue growth.

  • jamseycomeslooking

    Yes, I can answer that. Because the democratic 111th congress convened on January 20, 2007; immediately gas went to 4 dollars a gallon, the housing bubble burst; thanks to the community reinvestment act, aggressively reinstated by bill clintion in 1998 and implimented by Acorn. Banks made loans to illlegal aliens (over 2 million) of them that walked away, along with the ole so poor…pitiful poor who would walk away from rental properties…after eviction no less; but banks and mortage companies were forced by Acorn and it's 361 affiliates to loan money because poor people deserve to own a home too! They too walked away. Then the 111th congress passed the Tarp 787 billion dollar package. The reason money went to AIG, was because the majority of their customers are the teachers unions and the usual union thugs like SEIU the officail strong arm of Acorn. Make no mistake, the tarp money is going to counties, districts that voted democrat and to unions that contributed heavily to obamy and the democrats. Look it up it's all there. Just because it was still the Bush administration doesn't mean much when the entire congress, representatives and senators had and have a filibuster proof majority. Bush had no choice but to sign the Tarp bill at it was veto proof. Honestly I was pissed at Bush for being such a RINO, and spending like some democrats; but now I understand the onslaught he held back from the socialist, communist, totalitrians aka (progressives) that are in power now. I actually miss Bush now and I"m not the only one. We Americans did want change, like spending cuts, fiscal responsibility, enforcing our laws (the preceeding remark does not include the parasitical scared cows in our society) and look at the CRAP we got. So, either you understand that congress manages the purse strings of the American enconmy, or you don't. So, now we have a marxist in thief in the oval office with the communist congress in charge.

    Proud American Indian Creek Woman

  • Where is Jimmy Madis

    If taxes go up, and the economy doesn't rebound, and the dollar sinks lower, and we get a double dip recession… anyone with 1/2 a brain will see that the Obamalamadingdong retread policies from the FDR era will expose him as a megalomaniac in an empty suit. That might trigger a real fiscal revolution in this country– long overdue. The "independents" that backed Obama in '08 are heading for the hills as the deficit projections keep climbing. That could be a good thing in '10.

    If Obama continues along this line, he will also finally put a nail in the coffin about the legend of our first socialist (FDR) president as "one of the greatest". All FDR did was institute "government on credit", and now the bill is coming due.

    How do you keep from living in squalor at your house?

    You take out the trash– Dems and Repubs alike.

    Produce a "fiscal litmus test" and see how the current band of looters in Congress stack up.

    Tar and feather is too good for the irresponsible among them; they should be tried for treason.

    Start with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, then move on to Rangel and the other serial budgetary abusers. Oh, and make sure Franklin Delano Raines (Fannie) and Jim Johnson (Freddie) — Obama supporters both– get swept up in the drag net. Their criminal lack of fiduciary responsibility while getting rich and benefitting the looters has yet to be fully told.

  • http://www.americanpoliticalorphan.com/ Steve

    You can't punish the producers and reward the non-producers and expect to recover the economy. It just won't work.

    Eventually the government will run out of other peoples money.

    The Demorats can't continue to loot the Treasury without disasterous results.

  • http://Array Michael

    Remember…Both Bush (both senior and junior) and Clinton are part of the One World Government crowd. I don't know for sure if Obama is, but we have been steadily moving that way for since Clinton was in office. The goal of all of the politicians currently in office is to stay in office. They will buy whatever votes are needed to do so. Out economic health and national freedoms do not matter to them at all.

  • sayanything-2

    Punishing people who refuse to submit to them is all Democrats have ever been about.

  • Loudly DoBad

    Easy, as long a Congress keeps spending more than the IRS collects in taxes, the deficit will go up.

  • darkhawque

    "The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods." [H.L. Mencken]

    Sound familiar? Haven’t you thought the very same thing yourself? I know I have.

    If we all know this to be true then why don’t we do something about it? There are more of us than them. There are more “independent voters” than the total of both the Left Wing and the Right Wing looters put together. I have a “radical” idea. It’s so far out there it just might work. Let’s fire them all! I am perfectly serious – fire them all! In the upcoming elections of 2010 and 2012 lets each make a personal commitment to be in control of our own decisions and vote to send them all home. Let’s make sure that not one of the current crop of liars and looters that hold office in the US House of Representatives, the US Senate or the White House get those jobs again! There is really no other way to make them understand that we are done being their playthings. We have had enough of their lying, their looting and their BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING! It is time to rise up and be heard! I’m not talking about a violent revolution. No guns, no bombs, no riot gear. Just a healthy dose of civil unrest. I’m talking about a rebellion of the electorate. “What a great idea” you say. “Why have we not done this already?”. The reasons are as simple and obvious as they are damning: Apathy, Inertia, Procrastination.

    Until now, whenever we reached the point that we were so polarized as a nation that there was no middle ground anymore we always had a Leader to rise up and point us all in the right direction. We’ve always had a Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln or Roosevelt to lead our wars. We’ve always had a Kennedy or Reagan to inspire with great oratory our actions that caused the change we needed…..But not this time. Many of us thought we had found that Leader again in this well spoken young upstart Senator from Illinois named Barak Obama. He had the looks and the smooth presentation. It all sounded so appealing. Change you can believe in – Yes we can! Beautiful speeches and grand oratory lured us onward. The Historic implications of electing our first African-American President pushed him over the top and he was ushered into the Presidency of the United States by millions of adoring followers and a fawning media. Then it happened. President Obama took office and it did not take long to see that the “change we could believe in” was out with the far Right and in with the far Left. This bright and well spoken young President that so many of the nation had counted on to lead us back to greatness didn’t lead us anywhere. All of a sudden instead of taking the helm and steering the country toward our next Golden Era he stopped leading and became the traveling salesman for the Pelosi and Reid agenda.
    So I guess you know where this is going. That’s right – we are on our own. No knight in shining armor is coming to save us this time. This time we have to get up off of our worthless butts and start taking charge of our own future! Not even one of these self centered boobs that currently hold an elected office as of today should be allowed to come back to our nation‘s capitol. Not ever. Whether you help play spoiler in a primary for a same party challenger or switch sides and support the other party’s candidate in the general election. Or maybe, just maybe you go completely radical and take a chance on a third party candidate. Maybe this time you take a chance on the Libertarian or Independent that’s running in your district. Maybe this is the year that you get out there and actively campaign for somebody with new ideas! The only goal is to get a completely new group of leaders in Washington DC – ones that are FULLY aware that we will mobilize ourselves and run their power grubbing little butts right out of that office if they become anything like their predecessors.

    Now that would be a change I could believe in. That is a change that could lead us back to being the land of the free and the home of the brave.

  • Hube

    He's not your usual tax and spend liberal…. He's a spend, then tax liberal! How's that for "Hope n' change."

  • dannyvabchva

    If o passed the fairtax bill the only thing to fight over would be what the sales tax % would be.

    All of the hidden tax's would go away and 13 trillion $ that would come back to the US to be used to get the economy going again.

  • sayanything-8825

    I can only agree with all the many comments here, he should really move on with fairtax bill.

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