Is Nuclear Energy Enough Incentive To Get On Board With Cap And Trade?

For years now conservatives have been making the case for nuclear energy in the face of opposition from environmentalists and other liberal activists. Technological innovations over the years have made nuclear energy safe, clean and cheap but despite that there’s been little movement in clearing the regulatory path to allow nuclear power development in the United States. Mostly, again, due to opposition from liberal groups.
But now, desperate to get cap and trade passed, liberals are offering nuclear power to Republicans as an olive branch. The question is: Is nuclear power worth cap and trade?

WASHINGTON (AP) — Nuclear energy, once vilified by environmentalists and facing a dim future, has become a pivotal bargaining chip as Senate Democrats hunt for Republican votes to pass climate legislation. …
Democratic sponsors of the climate bill are far short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a GOP filibuster. They hope a compromises could bring along uncommitted centrist Democrats and some Republicans. Along with talk of opening more waters to oil drilling, support for nuclear energy is seen as the carrot that might attract Republicans.
The prospects of such a compromise appeared to brighten recently when Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., the climate bill’s principle sponsor, and Graham collaborated on a new bid to build consensus.
“Nuclear power needs to be a core component of electricity generation if we are to meet our emission reduction targets,” they wrote. They called for ending “cumbersome regulations that have stalled” new reactors, measures to help utilities secure financing and expanded research to resolve the waste problem.
They outlined a framework that other Republicans might follow. GOP senators such as McCain, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Conn., have shown an interest in climate legislation — if nuclear energy plays a greater part.

I would love to see nuclear power allowed to compete in the energy market with other energy suppliers. I’m not interested in seeing nuclear power backed and subsidized by the government any more than I am interested in seeing the government back and subsidize energy sources like wind power and solar power (I think the various power sources should be viable without subsidy), but I think it would be enough for nuclear for the government to simply get out of the way.
And if that is indeed what Democrats are promising, is it enough for cap and trade?
The answer, overwhelmingly I think, is no. Cap and trade will amount to more than just a pervasive tax on everything in our economy (given that everything we do produces carbon) but also a government control on all national production. If we cannot produce anything without first emitting carbon, and if producers must essentially buy permission from the government or through some government-backed exchange to emit carbon, then the government controls production.
And what kind of government controls production? Certainly not the sort of government our founders intended to establish.

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  • http://Array sayanything-2

    Read this rather short wiki entry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_reactor And then ask yourself,”Why aren’t we using nuclear to generate electricity MORE?!?”

  • sayanything-42

    Hell No.

    Nuclear Power is an economic winner hampered by political interference. Civilian Nuclear Power has resulted in fewer deaths in the United States than has The Who. Chernobyl, the worst civilian nuclear power related accident in history, killed fewer people (56) than die on the average day (102 per day in 2008) on America’s roads.

  • jimmypop

    108… and keep the poor poor powerless… literally and figuratively. is disgusting how the little libby sheep all line up to screw themselves.

  • sayanything-2819

    CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a natural and necessary element of life on earth.

    Enjoy your moment in power, Republicans thought they couldn’t lose for years, saying much the same things as you and your ilk. That wake up call can be a nightmare.

  • sayanything-43

    We’ll get stabbed in the back, the left will fight the nuclear plants tooth and nail and keep cap and trade.

    But if the liberals wanted to reduce CO2 they’d be all for nuke plants without cap and trade. So why aren’t they?

    It’s not about the climate, it’s about ruining our standard of living.

  • robert108

    Exactly! They want to impoverish us with energy starvation.

  • robert108

    Is the cost a free market cost, or is it an artifact of govt control? As you know, the govt jiggers the numbers to sell the fiction that everything it does is “low cost”, but the reality is vastly different.
    Again, what is the cost of fuel rods on the free market?
    I’m not against nukes, btw; in my calculation, coal, oil and natural gas are the fuels for the foreseeable future, in terms of total cost/benefit, as nuclear will always pose a national security problem. Not just in terms of the fuel itself, but as a target for terrorists. With Obama exposing us to terrorism through his weakness for Islam, every nuke plant in this country is a potential dirty bomb.
    Should the security problems be worked out, small nukes could be used to give communities electrical independence.

  • sayanything-4625

    Go for it! It will be all on you! Do it! When peoples power bill goes up 3000 to 4000 a month and prices on goods skyrocket they are going to blame you. Do it! Man up Nancy!

  • robert108

    RG: I’m not sure that nuclear power is an “economic winner”, for a couple reasons. First, there is the matter that all nuke material and technology is controlled by the military, so we really don’t know what the free market price would be, or even if it is remotely possible. Second, the entire economic system with utilities in general is one of govt control and regulation, so we really don’t know what a real free market would be like in any utility.
    I’m just saying that we have insufficient information to know the economic feasibility of any utility; I don’t mean we shouldn’t try. The first step with nukes would be to have private sector development, and that poses national security problems.

  • http://www.techmation.org/ Neeraj

    Nuclear energy will be very much cost effective

  • Brent

    “But if the liberals wanted to reduce CO2 they’d be all for nuke plants without cap and trade. So why aren’t they?”

    Yeah, they could immediately act to reduce CO2 by allowing nuclear energy to go forward where it is economically feasible. They don’t because they represent a coalition of crazy, petty, self-serving interest groups. Kind of like republicans, but nuttier.

  • sayanything-2

    No. Cap&Tax is the economy killer. That is its only purpose, that is why dinothefakehomo and his boy Barri are for it.

  • sayanything-342

    Nuclear is Green Energy. Barry would of been further ahead to take the lions share of the stimulus and spend it on nuclear energy. Then he could of pushed his electric car agenda via GM. But NOOOOOOOO, he had to be a Marxist and he over reache on Health Care. Oh well, maybe the next president in 2012 will be more competant.

  • sayanything-42

    R108,

    I am sure. I’ve seen the new plant build expenses and the historical record as regards lifetime cost per kilowatt hour. Nuclear has the lowest lifetime average cost per kWh.

  • Pfeh

    The left has pulled this crap, time and again. Missile Defense, George Bush Sr.’s breaking his “no new taxes” bargain, Clinton’s “Assault Weapons” ban, the pattern is repeated over and over. Democrats offer a carrot, and Republicans who are either RINO’s or complete morons decide to go along with it. End result? No carrot, and we’re stuck 4 steps closer to the socialist utopia of no cars, no electricity, and it’s a felony to seek or provide medical treatment from anywhere but a government clinic.

  • sayanything-3165

    They’re getting warmer.

    Nukes, wind, natural gas, coal, oil. We need it all.

  • sayanything-2

    Cap, http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:4:./temp/~c111i6jy1s:: and Trade, http://kerry.senate.gov/cleanenergyjobsandamericanpower/pdf/bill.pdf The Economy Killer. That is all it is intended to do. They do not give a crap about the environment, just look at the lives they live.

    Oop, there it is.

  • mplsbob

    Don’t trust them. They always lie about what they intend to do. It’s like Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown. Wake up stupid republicans

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    We’ll continue to govern while stepping on your foreheads.

    So no consent of the governed? Why even have elections then.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Not at the cost of cap and trade.

  • sayanything-4416

    Don’t get on board. It’ll pass without you.

    We already have cap n trade for a handful of pollutants. We’ll have it for CO2 very soon, without the support of the party of NO.

    We’ll continue to govern while stepping on your foreheads.

  • sayanything-5376

    The whole point of cap and trade is alleged to be controlling climate change, or global warming. There is still no concrete proof that either is a man made problem, nor is there any concrete proof that man can do anything to have a significant effect on changing the climate. Cap and trade is just another power grab by the power addicts in Washington, and it needs to go away.

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