Tennessee Republicans would like to know.
I know many want to write this patriotism stuf off as an irrelevant issue, but I think a lot of Americans care about it. And the Obamas don’t get to lay down with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, Bernadette Dhorn and William Ayers without getting up with some American-hating fleas.
Besides, it’s not like the Tennessee GOP is out running ads questioning Obama’s manhood like the liberals are.
Don’t ya just love when people edit words out of what someone said, like this video does? And the guy who said he was really proud when Reagan said he’d kick Gorbachev’s ass; I don’t even think he was born when Reagan said that.
But keep putting up the mischaracterizations of Obama.
I’d be more worried about how you are going to win in November then what a potential first lady has to say, especially when it is edited the way this was edited.
Republicans can’t even win in their strongest congressional districts losing three seats in a row recently with Bush and Cheney campaigning for them.
The Rs even tried tying candidates to Obama and they still lost. So what do Republicans think needs to happen: (From politico.com)
Rep Tom Davis (R) put out a 20 page report to his fellow republicans. Here’s the best part of what he wrote:
“The Republican brand is in the trash can....if we were dog food, they would take us off the shelf.” He also wrote in his diatribe: “We can go our own way with our own programs and even disassociate ourselves from President Bush.”
I think we call that “throwing Bush under the bus.”
Mitt Romney:
“If we are ill-defined or, worse, if we’re defined b the failures of the administration or the the failure of Congress in the last eight to 10 years, then we’re going to lose.”
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey:
“Republicans don’t have a vision. Their behavior is being governed by a bad political model and we’re losing races.”
GOP Tom Delay: the GOP
“needs to realize what the opposition is and how formidable it is. The Democratic Party is organized chaos, bit it is so much better than what we are doing.”
Oh and this one is a doozy from Governor Tim Pawlenty:
“The country is changing. The Republican Party has to have a message that reflects faces and voices of America. We have to do a better job of recruiting women candidates, candidates of color and diversity.”
You certainly have your hands full for the next few months but with that new slogan of yours, “the change you deserve” you might just want to go for the Effexor instead.
‘feet! You’re bringing your argument here because there because you gave up winning on your own thread? Too many facts against you,huh?losing three seats in a row
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* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
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Liberals do not love America. They are not patriotic and in my opinion would want America to loose militarily anywhere so they can advance their socialist agenda.
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WSJ:
Democrats pulled off the win by smartly nominating a conservative, Travis Childers, from a rural swing part of the district who disavowed Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and hit Mr. Davis from the right.
As I pointed out to the chirping crickets on puzzlefeet’s thread, Democrat Childers threw both Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama under the bus. This does not bode well for a liberal takeover of the country!
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* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
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Drag whatever you want Proof. These guys ain’t your kind of conservative and we have a big tent in the Democratic party. The fact remain that the republicans are in big trouble and your own leaders admit this. That you refust to recognize it doesn’t change the panic in the republican party right now.
RZ, The Truth is you are full of bovine excrement.
“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
These guys ain’t your kind of conservative
And if they have to run again the Obamaman and Pelosi, they certainly aren’t your kind of Democrat!
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Light comic opera
For he himself has said it,
And it’s greatly to his credit,
That he is an Englishman!
That he is an Englishman!
HMS Pinafore
RZ, The Truth is you are full of bovine excrement.
Out here in the fly over farm country we say that smells like money.
"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”
A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years
Sorry, Proof but the problem here is that the Rs have to figure out a way to take back the House and Senate and that just ain’t happening here. You have not iterated any way that this can be accomplished. Perhaps you should get in touch with the above cited republicans and let them in on your secret to winning in the fall.
Oh, and by the way, the Rs did try painting Childers with the brush of Obama and Pelosi and they failed miserably. And so it goes....
Jayne Fonda. Murtha. Treason by Rosenbergs.
I might engage in a debate with an adult, but am not sure about Spartacus. Looked at your blog. A friend of mine in Michigan has a nice El Dorado and one Camaro.
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The video seems have been disappeared.
I guess it struck a nerve.
Reading more of your blog. Liked this: http://route30cruisers.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/thank-you/
Was in Belgium. They used it to add warmth during the winters around their barns.
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A couple of conservative democrats won in Indiana last election by promising they were not going to be slaves to Nancy and Co. It’ll be interesting to see how they backtrack out of that, probably like Evan Bayh does: by lying.
But I absolutely do agree the Republicans have big trouble, so many have tried to re-brand themselves as dem-lites and people are saying no thanks.
""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”
-Jack Bauer
Chief, I think you initially viewed my response to RBB from 180 opposite of my intended perspective. Sorry about that, I’ve been told many times I don’t communicate clearly due to sarcasm.
"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”
A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years
And yeah, mocking seniors will be a great way to pull in their votes. Kind of like calling women “sweetie” will really help Barry with the gal vote. And the left should be careful about going down the age road, I haven’t heard McCain whining and making excuses for his gaffes because he’s “tired.” What a pussy.
""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”
-Jack Bauer
Spartacus, the problem is not yours.
“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
They used it to add warmth during the winters around their barns.
They have heated barns in Belgium??? Doesn’t surprise me, their military has a union too, so I’ve heard
"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”
A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years
Spartacus. I’m looking further on your blog. Did you serve? I was not totally sure and was trying to reply to three people with one statement. Your blog reinforces what I thought was a patriotic statement. Thanks. I have been to about five restored car shows. Mostly in Michigan, but one here. What is your favorite? Mine is 1964 GTO.
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No, no my turn to clarify. The dung is piled outside of the barns and as it decomposes, warms the inside of the barns. It also becomes more “ripe” shall we say. Europe is always refreshing to visit. Just about everyone speaks the same language, The Truth. The military? Well, here is a second hand story from a Falkland Island veteran. The Belgans refused to honor a contract with the Brits two years into a six year contract for 7.62 mm small arms ammo. President Reagan came through with enough. Liberals do not want anyone to enforce contracts by force. The Belgans government should have known better, but all their good men were killed in WW I and WW II. There were and are many real citizens who know what we did to liberate Bastogne. I visited there and they still hang out white sheets to commemorate their supplying our GIs with their sheets for snow cammo.
Communism is evil
What is your favorite? Mine is 1964 GTO.
I’m partial to the pre half-acre hood mustangs, ‘69 Mach / Boss body style is my favorite, however, due to my mother buying one of the first fastback ‘stangs back in ‘65, the one I’m proudest of is the one I feature in the banner.
"we should select our leaders on principle first, electability second.”
A young man whose wisdom far exceeds his years
Spartacus. Ever heard the C&W song about the Chevrolet? The mother puts an ad in the newspaper for an old Chevy. Turns out to be a 64 Vietnam Era VET!
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Found it. Private Malone. It was a ‘66 Corvette. So many good men were not respected for their efforts during Vietnam. It only took one Walter, a liberal unpatriotic, unknowing “journalist” who turned a victory into a defeat for many who only had access to VHF TV back then. Not so now, thank God.
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Puzzelfoot,
Excellent post. Newt Gingrich would like to contribute by saying,
“The Republican brand has been so badly damaged that if Republicans try to run an anti-Obama, anti-Rev. Wright or, if Sen. Clinton wins, anti-Clinton campaign, they are simply going to fail,” Gingrich said. “This model has already been tested with disastrous results.”
Proof,
Democrat Childers threw both Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama under the bus. This does not bode well for a liberal takeover of the country!
Similar to what McCain is trying to do with Bush, isn’t it?
Hoss,
And the left should be careful about going down the age road, I haven’t heard McCain whining and making excuses for his gaffes because he’s “tired.” What a pussy.
No, he just lies.
“My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.” — John McCain
His campaign says after that he was talking about the Gulf War then when a reporters asks if he was talking about the Gulf War, he says no.
Chief RZ,
Liberals do not love America. They are not patriotic and in my opinion would want America to loose militarily anywhere so they can advance their socialist agenda.
Chauvinism is a proud and bellicose form of patriotism...which equates the national honor with military victory.
~Colonel James A. Donovan, Marine Corp
So many good men were not respected for their efforts during Vietnam.
It was the disaster the way Vietnam veterans were treated when they came home. Equating ‘respecting’ veterans by continuing a war that had no ending such as Vietnam, isn’t a way of respecting veterans, it’s a disservice.
Equating ‘respecting’ veterans by continuing a war that had no ending such as Vietnam, isn’t a way of respecting veterans, it’s a disservice.
But neither is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, which is the Democratic action plan for Iraq.
Nunez,
It helps to know the correct vocabulary. The original “post” was Rob’s. Puzzle’s contribution is what’s known as a comment.
Your comment is not only gratuitous, but makes very little sense.
The largely shameful reception accorded our returning Vietnam veterans had nothing directly to do with the shameful manner in which that war and our country’s involvement was ended. Indeed, most of those responsible for that “shameful reception” were the very same people clammoring for us to abandon the fight and our commitments to South Vietnam and withdraw immediately, in spite of what the situation actually was on the ground militarily, or the horrific slaughter that occurred throughout Southeast Asia after we left.
As one of those returning Vietnam veterans I still remember both the stateside “reception”, in my case at Travis AFB, CA and in Omaha, NB and the communist slaughter that took place after we withdrew.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Liberals do not love America. They are not patriotic and in my opinion would want America to loose militarily anywhere so they can advance their socialist agenda.
Actually Chief, it is you who does not love America, because you don’t understand it. You live in your cloistered little world away from most people. You believe that we must conquer other nations to make them like us. While people who love and understand America understand that we will win by making other countries want to be like us without us having to compel them.
You have truly wasted your life.
You have truly wasted your life.
You should be wary of passing judgement on people like that, Lestat.
Not a very classy thing to do.
You should be wary of passing judgment on people like that, Lestat.
Not a very classy thing to do.
Truth hurts.
Chief has wasted his life by dedicating it to the ideal of us conquering other countries.
He has never understood his oath of service and that may be sad, but it is true.
This country used to be the shining beacon on the hill. The ideal. The sons of bitches that run it now have ruined that. Our standards are not higher than the terrorist who attack us, and most people here agree with that.
It’s not just Chief who I disdain, it is also you.
Fuck you Lestat.
Fuck you Lestat.
Now we are getting someplace. If you can just get rid of your talking points and get down to real emotion, maybe we can have a constructive conversation.
Lestat said, This country used to be the shining beacon on the hill. The ideal. The sons of bitches that run it now have ruined that. Our standards are not higher than the terrorist who attack us, and most people here agree with that.
And there’s the illogical left finding a moral equivalence between America and it’s Islamic enemies while going on about how much they “love” America.
It’s sad that Lestat has plenty of company among the fevered swamps of the hate America left.
but the problem here is that the Rs have to figure out a way to take back the House and Senate and that just ain’t happening here. You have not iterated any way that this can be accomplished. Perhaps you should get in touch with the above cited republicans and let them in on your secret to winning in the fall.
I don’t think this is about taking back the Senate at this point. It is about keeping R’s on the reservation and maintaining a filibuster proof minority. I am reasonably certain that the administration of McCain will be centrist enough that Republicans will not have the numbers to filibuster his liberal pandering. But give us an Obama and they will filibuster everything that comes down. It will be a complete do-nothing Congress and Senate. It may very well get Republicans back to the roots of what the Party should be about--conservative values, specifically free market values.
I am not sure how the Presidential Race will play out between the Messiah and the Old Man. If I were a betting man, I would say that McCain stands a pretty good chance if he can get Conservatives to turn out and vote for him. The problem is he is so damned unappealing, that many Conservatives won’t vote at all because of him and that will cost Republicans to fall even further behind.
I honestly don’t think it can get any worse for Republicans unless they lose the filibuster, which they won’t. Either they will win the Presidency or if they lose it, Obama will be such a disaster that the failed experiment with Democrat leadership will turn the tide again. The Republicans strategy is to keep enough of a filibuster in place that Obama can only fuck things up moderately badly and Republicans can later fix it. In that respect, McCain is even worse than Obama because Conservatives will not galvanize against Liberal McCain the way they would against Obama. Obama may provide Republicans with an awakening and bring the party back, not put a nail in the coffin. Experiments with Liberal politics have failed all over the world. That is why France, Canada, Germany, Italy, and the UK have recently elected Conservatives. Maybe a few partial birth abortions, tax increases, gay marriage laws, high oil prices, and foreign policy failures like abandoning Iraq and throwing Israel to the Iranians will convince people to vote Republican before Obama can really fuck us with Nationalized Healthcare.
Lesat. How about creating a profile so we can more quickly understand your thinking. Next, let me respond to your false statements. Next time, if you have a question, ask. You remind me of some of my more devious students who, instead of asking a question would say something that was not true and expect the other person to correct them. Not knowing your age or educational background, I can only guess what your motives are--or were.
Chief has wasted his life by dedicating it to the ideal of us conquering other countries.
He has never understood his oath of service and that may be sad, but it is true.
I do not and have not advocated “conquering other countries”.
For example, I was opposed to “conquering”:
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosova, Germany, Italy, or Somalia.
As a member of the ANGUS, SCANG and now retired USAF, our mission was a peacemaker. Unfortunately, there is evil in this world. Communism, wherever it exists is evil. Stalin was responsible for killing over 100,000,000 innocent civilians. Liberals try to gloss over this inconvenient truth. People like Noam Chomsky try to dismiss the 2,000,000 Cambodians killed after Walter helped fool many Americans during the Vietnam war. As an Eagle Scout, I learned to help other people at all times. Trying to help innocent civilians would be one of those goals.
You have no idea about what my obligations to oaths of service entail. I still have one and just recently in the last months have continued to help our own citizens of South Carolina respond to natural and man-made disasters.
Your words revealed quite a bit about the way you assume things. If you have a question ask. That is the polite thing to do.
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Lesat. I missed this one, sorry that you are having so many problems guessing other’s motives. For your information, my “cloistered little world away from most people” involved being very close to over 10,000 students during my teaching career. I have also visited and talked with real people in the “former eastern-block countries” of Europe. [read: former slaves of the communist regime] The Muslim/Islamic/Terrorists do not have a country. They are like parasites living on another animal.
making other countries want to be like us without us having to compel them.
I would not want to make any other country or ideology like us. They should come to those conclusions on their own; like the recent changes in:
Canada, France, Germany, London, England and even Russia. The Truth, when allowed to thrive will eventually set men free from their communist oppressors. North Korea and Communist China totally control the exchange of information within their countries. I do not advocate invading these countries. Their own people may eventually find The Truth just like some other countries have done.
I have not seen or heard much from the press about how much these mentioned countries are now similar to the USA. France has finally turned away from communism after a half-century. I visited there less than a decade ago and found the average citizen very friendly and I did not hide my nationality. The Truth hurts those who try and lie about it. Its light shines brightly and with it, freedom soon follows. That freedom is what I defend.
I can only guess what liberals hide in the dark. I am proud to be an American, unlike he and she who made no doubt just about every time they opened their mouths.
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Bat One.
As one of those returning Vietnam veterans I still remember both the stateside “reception”, in my case at Travis AFB, CA and in Omaha, NB and the communist slaughter that took place after we withdrew.
Thank you for repeating The Truth.
The facts are that the Democrats pulled support in 1975 for the S. Vietnamese and that led to the slaughter of over two million innocent civilians in Cambodia alone. Liberals either are ignorant or ignore these facts like Noam Chomsky.
I stick by my contention. These are the same liberals from the 1930s who sat around coffeehouses in NYC plotting ways to destroy the USA. Walter Duranty and his NYT lies by omission of the killing—no murders of SEVEN MILLION Ukranians by Joseph (uncle Joe-FDR) Stalin.
Our humanitarian efforts in Afghanistan, Iraq, Hungary and many other countries goes virtually unreported by the liberal press.
On the one [half-day] off I had during Joint Endeavor, I went to an orphanage to talk with and give some items to children on Sunday.
Those who do not know, guess. Those who know ask.
Communism is evil
Proof asserts that the Democrats who beat the republicans in the last few weeks are conservatives. It’s nice to know Proof that you are now supporting expansion of the Schip program, ending the war in Iraq, stopping new trade deals and eliminating subsidies to big oil and protecting social security. (hat tip to Daily Kos.) Because these candidates won in strong republican districts supporting these “conservative” stances.
No wonder the republicans are in panic mode.
It’s taken a while Proof but you’re getting there.
Our standards are not higher than the terrorist who attack us, and most people here agree with that
Are you really that big of a dumbass. If that were the case we’d have leveled Afghanistan and Iraq already and moved on. Too bad you disdain men like Chief, he’s the reason you little leftists get to talk all the shit you do.
While people who love and understand America
Which unfortunately doesn’t include anybody from the American left. The lefts disdain for this country (as projected onto Chief from Lestat)is not really in question. From Michelle Obama to the typical leftist, every time they turn around they see an unjust America that makes victims instead of successes, an America that shits on the rest of the world as we do more than anybody to help it, an America that the rest of the world would trade places with in a hot second, you talk about the Constitution as being a “living,breathing document” to suit your needs and rely on courts to do your bidding then have the temerity to lecture on the ideal of America, please. You guys are too bogged down by your own insecurities, low self-esteem, and low self-worth that you just can’t see any of the good things. So I say, screw all of you. Count your blessings that you have strong, willing men to do the heavy lifting that you pansy-asses won’t do.
""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”
-Jack Bauer
Proof asserts that the Democrats who beat the republicans in the last few weeks are conservatives
All’s I know is what I read in the papers. And that the conclusions you draw from those three victories ain’t necessarily what you think (hope) them to be.
A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate. Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts. Heh. (From the LGF faq)
BTW, I’m a Republican and I’m not in panic mode. But, thanks for playing!
A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate. Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts. Heh. (From the LGF faq)
wow, Proof gets all his knowledge from the newspapers, who’d have thunk it.
Proof gets all his knowledge from the newspapers, who’d have thunk it.
That’s what you get when you try to be subtle with a liberal!
Famed humorist Will Rogers used to say that as part of his act. That and “I never met a man I didn’t like” were his two trademark quotes. (I figured that those who were well read would pick up on it!)
Well, all I know is what I read in the papers.Will Rogers, New York Times, Sept 30 1923
US humorist & showman (1879 - 1935)
Forgive me for trying to bring a little levity and historical perspective to enliven the conversation!
BTW, ‘feet: If I ever say, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself"… that might reference an historic figure as well! Heh.
A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate. Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts. Heh. (From the LGF faq)
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