Say Anything Blog

Dang!
Sounds like “Juggs” Pelosi finally struck a deal with them!
It’s reported that she was dealing with the FARC, as well....Just not in the Country’s best intrest

I believe the best thing for a novice in the tongue would be to simply say “Salaam”.  It’s both the welcome and parting greeting in that language.

The problem with doing so, though, arrives in the case when something happens with threatens to turn Iraq into a new Vietnam (as in Vietnam after 1975).  Hopefully the diplomats have a few jarheads with them to keep the results sane.

This would be a great opportunity to declare victory and move on to Afghanastan and complete the mission. If we are asked to pull out that means the USA has been successful.

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Goon’s World

Good point, Goon.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

I’m with Goon.

President Bush said we wouldn’t stay in Iraq a day longer than the Iraqis wanted us there.  Clearly, with all the success we’ve had in mopping up the terrorists and all the success they have on the government/security front, they feel as though the time is close that we can leave.

I say we honor that request whatever it is, both of a sign of having succeeded in Iraq and to honor the original conditions of our liberation of that country.

And re-focusing on Afghanistan is a good idea too.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I’ve always had a problem with ingrates.

I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that they’re ungrateful. Maybe they just feel the time has come for them to stand on their own two feet. I applaud them for taking responsibility of their own country rather than leaving it to us.

There are vultures perched on every ledge in the Middle East who are more than eager to pick the bones of Iraq clean. The Iraqi government surely knows what will happen if we go, yet they are demanding now that we do just that.

True, but I assume even after we’ve left that we will remain allies with them and offer to come to their aide should they be attacked by a hostile Iran.

Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-Flip-flop,Flip-flop,flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop.

Buy American, Buy Union Made… the job you save might be your own.

Buzz,

Good thing about those “muscles.”

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,Flip-flop,

I take it that’s the sound of Buzz’s man-boobs flapping?

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

So many armchair Commanders-In-Chiefs, so little geo-political vision.

It is very tempting to declare victory and leave. It is tempting to concentrate on Afghanistan! It is tempting to say Iraq wants us out so we should leave. So many temptations, they all seem so easy, so cheap and certainly politically expedient at home. But, that is not what leadership is about, certainly not global leadership. It is in fact a betrayal by our government of their Constitutional promise to provide for the common defense.

What will be the impact on the Middle East if Iraq falls into Civil War now and everything gained is then lost. What is the impact of once more our word, our willingness to help people seeking liberty being shown to be so much gas, all show and furry, but no substance? No nation ever again, especially in the Middle East will ever be able to trust us again to stay the course and make sure we leave a stable democracy behind when we leave.

That is why America has stayed so long in Europe, Japan and Korea. We have common enemies that would like to attack those nations and destroy everything that was built after war and we knew we had to have a very long term military presence there to stabilize those regions of the world. It has worked pretty damn well, magnificently now for over six decades, demonstrating the wisdom of that geo-political strategy. But, we are no longer capable of such long term thinking, we are unable to stay the course of such a geo-political strategy during good times and bad. No, we want no costs, no pain, instant gratification and then settle back into a place of safety and prosperity.

Well, I tell you that if we do not stick it out in Iraq, winding down our presence there to be sure, but remaining there for the long term no matter what Iraqi’s think, we are cutting off our noses to spite our faces. We will have no global economic security or anything even loosely appearing like world peace and safety. In matter of fact with the fall of Iraq back into chaos and Islamic rule we will have surrendered to the forces of Islamic terrorism and global Jihad and we will reap the whirlwind of death and global economic depression on a scale of horror unimaginable.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

remaining there for the long term no matter what Iraqi’s think

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

2004:

PETERSON: …Let me give you a hypothetical, senator. What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there? I understand it’s a hypothetical, but it’s at least possible.

McCAIN: Well, if that scenario evolves, then I think it’s obvious that we would have to leave because— if it was an elected government of Iraq— and we’ve been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government, then I think we would have other challenges, but I don’t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

I take it that’s the sound of Buzz’s man-boobs flapping?

For a man who claims to be an intellectual superior to everyone you seem to need to resort to name calling and grammar nitpicking quite often. 

The only sound I hear is my own laughter after seeing all of you blow-hard know-it-alls flip flop from, just yesterday, saying we need to set up permanent bases in Iraq to today saying you don’t care if we leave forever.

For a man who claims to be an intellectual superior to everyone

Damn! I missed that one! Could you please point it out to me where I said that?
Implied that? Thought that? I never “claimed” any such thing! Are you always this careless with your facts?
I may have demonstrated intellectual superiority over some of the mental midgets that show up here from time to time, but I do not make any such claim. If such a thing were true, I’d let others make that judgment. (It’s a modesty thang! Modesty is my BEST quality!)

So, to recap: You repeat an infantile charge against me and treat it as fact…
The only sound I hear is my own laughter after watching you fumble with no facts, no argument and no game!

But, thanks for playing!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

BTW: My comment was on Buzz’s insufferably redundant “flip flop” comment. It was intended to be humorous.

Why is it that those on the Left seem to be the most humorless people on the planet?

(That was a rhetorical question, CatMower! You don’t have to answer!)

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Shuffled quotes from the link:

“Our stance in the negotiations underway with the American side will be strong ... We will not accept any memorandum of understanding that doesn’t have specific dates to withdraw foreign forces from Iraq,” al-Rubaie said.

President Bush has said he opposes a timetable. The White House said Monday it did not believe Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was proposing a rigid timeline for U.S. troop withdrawals.

“This is what the Iraqi people want, the parliament and other Iraqi leaders,” said al-Adeeb.

bush:

“We will stay in Iraq as long as we are needed and not a day longer.”

“Our strategy can be summed up this way: As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.”

bush
June 28, 2005

Of course in the same speech bush said:

“Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight. And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever, when we are, in fact, working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave.”

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

My my my.....

CatMow said:

The only sound I hear is my own laughter after seeing all of you blow-hard know-it-alls flip flop from, just yesterday,

The Iraqis hadn’t told us they want us out then. How’s that flip-flopping?

And, by the way, most of the blow-hard-know-it-alls here can spell “meow”.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

by the way, most of the blow-hard-know-it-alls here can spell “meow”.

Nah, Pilgrim, I think “Cat mow” is what’s left after you run over kitty with the lawnmower!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

I call McCain ‘McSame’ cause I sooo clever.  Then I note:

“Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight. And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever, when we are, in fact, working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave.”
bush
June 28, 2005

McCain wanted more troops, but him is ‘McSame as Bush’. Ha Ha! I’m ‘reality’ based!  Time to go play with my poopy some more.

“I think the situation on the ground is going to improve. I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.”

Flipper John McCain
[The Hill, 12/8/05]

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

That McCain must have been really really “McSame stay-the-course-y with Bush” when he pushed and pushed and pushed for the surge which good ol’ Barack Hussein said would never work, eh fellow buffoon?  That quote sure does prove.....something....right?