Iran: Crushing Repression Will Turn The People’s Resentment Into Seething Hatred

It started out as resentment over a rigged election but is now becoming much, much more than that.
I said a few days ago that if the protests didn’t lead to some sort of victory and soon, the government would begin to start picking off the protesters, dragging them from their homes and schools, and some may never be seen again.
I was right, but I’m not gloating about it.
People are being dragged away and beaten and tortured in a “crackdown” by Iranian security forces. It looks like the government is getting the upper hand. They’ve managed to block most communications out of the country – a rather remarkable feat that I don’t think anyone expected – and have given the boot to outside journalists so that no one can reliably relay the extent of their brutality. Those who didn’t leave have actually been jailed.
There are rumors that some of those “security forces” are Palestinian thugs shipped in by the government as enforcers, which would make sense on the government’s part. Radicals with no emotional ties to the populace would make formidable and deadly opponents of the protesters. Not only in that their loyalty to the government would be unquestioned. They have to win. Losing and being stranded amid a population that hates you is unthinkable.
So…it looks bad for the protesters right now, but the Iranian mullahs are miscalculating. They should have compromised a bit to mollify the population, at least until the next election, but they haven’t and they won’t. Like any other dictatorship throughout history they will fight to keep power at all costs. And here’s why it will cost them.
This isn’t thirty years ago. This isn’t an Iranian population who only know what the mullahs tell them and who mindlessly kneel at their feet in worshipful obedience. These are intelligent and sophisticated people who are well aware of the outside world and who are well aware of when their government is feeding them nonsense. And the mullah’s crackdown won’t stop what they’re trying to do – it will only slow it down.
For a rather chilling first hand account complete with pictures of what’s happening to people behind the closed doors of the “security forces” go over to Salon.com and read the story of a 17 year-old who was in their hands.
Note this part of his story:

…..we were transferred to the minus 4 level of Ministry of Intelligence building. There were a lot of riot police in black uniforms like those on the streets there. They were mostly non-Farsi speakers, and those who spoke Farsi kept telling us they could kill us right away and no one would ever know, they were also insulting us with very bad words.”

Non-Farsi speakers. Arabs? Palestinians?
Importing animals to torture your own people is not something they are likely to forget. Nor will they forget the people who were shot down in the street by their own government. The mullahs have made a bad mistake. It may take some time but they have assured the absolute certainty of their downfall.
The people may have to withdraw now but what started as resentment over a rigged election will most certainly become a seething hatred of the theocracy. The mullahs and their henchmen will pay the price when it boils over, even if it is unthinkable to them now in the smugness of power.
Just ask Romania’s Ceausescu. Oh, wait – you can’t, can you?

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  • http://Array 2Hotel9

    ” That Iran neither needs
    nor wants accommodation with the West.”

    This is the point leftards don’t grasp. The “government” of Iran wants nothing we have to offer, other than our blood. Period. Full stop.

  • Pilgrim

    Buzz and anyone else who questioned whether or not there was Hamas or Hezbollah involvement in this, see my above post.

    Clear it up for you?

  • 2Hotel9

    Problem is the Mad Mullahs don’t care. The more people they kill in the name of god the more people they will kill in the name of god. The people of Iran, and of all the Muslim World, have to drag these false mullahs out of the mosques and behead them. They are false mullahs, and worshipers of Satan. Only Satan tells people that murdering innocent children and women is morally superior. Oops!!! Who in America keeps screeching that murdering innocent children and women is morally superior? And who in America keeps telling us that we are evil for defending ourselves against Satan worshiping fucks who routinely murder innocent children and women?

    Reciprocity. Its a fucking bitch.

  • SigFan

    It appears that you are right on many fronts Pilgrim. The Iranian populace may very well turn on the ruling theocracy with a vengeance, but it will not be an easy or painless assault. Since the average citizen of Iran is prohibited from owning weapons they are so overmatched by the government’s forces that they would have to receive outside help and arms. Given that Hopey McChange is highly unlikely to do that, I can’t see any other major players in the world stepping up. Additionally, as you point out, the theocracy has no problem with importing mercenaries with no loyalty to the indigenous population to do their dirty work for them. This might backfire on them if the IRG perceives that the rulers are destroying their own people and come to the aid of the regular citizen. Short of that, I see this as another Tianamen Square. It will live on in memory and infamy, but the ruling regime will be here for a long time to come.

  • Pfeh

    Since the average citizen of Iran is prohibited from owning weapons they are so overmatched by the government’s forces that they would have to receive outside help and arms.

    The ultimate weapon – “F. – I.W.”

    Freedom – I won’t. A populace which refuses to be governed, and truly commits to that mindset, disarms any government that attempts to rule them. Differences in guns, bombs, and other war materials don’t matter.

  • SigFan

    A populace which refuses to be governed, and truly commits to that mindset, disarms any government that attempts to rule them. Differences in guns, bombs, and other war materials don’t matter.

    In most cases I agree, but in the case of a dictatorship that shows no compunctions against murdering their own people, I’m not so sure. Just like Iraq, until the people got outside help (us in that case) overthrow of the regime is next to impossible. You can see the same thing in Cuba, China and any number of other places. The exception seems to be when the internal military turns against the current regime, such as in Pakistan, though that’s not a stellar example of a liberated people. The only other non-violent ousting of an entrenched government that I can think of in recent history is the collapse of the Soviet Union, but even that seems to have been short-lived given Putin and company’s latest trends. I hope for the sake of the Iranian people they don’t have to wait as long or go through the protracted hell the people of the former Soviet Union and Iraq did.

  • Buzz

    There are rumors that some of those “security forces” are Palestinian thugs shipped in by the government as enforcers,

    Rumors? Speculation at best, probably started by another blogger.

    Additionally, as you point out, the theocracy has no problem with importing mercenaries

    Well, looks like the rumor is catching on.

    Palistinian terrorists reimported for the sole purpose of killing the Iranian people

    And now it is a fact, the rumor started by pilgrim is now accepted fact.

    See how easy it is? The blind leading the clueless.

  • Pfeh

    Civil wars, revolutions, are bloody. I’m not hoping for a non-violent uprising in Iran, because that is extremely unrealistic. If the Iranian people determine that they will fight a true war for their freedom, regardless of the costs, they will succeed in overthrowing the current government.

    Otherwise I’m in agreement with you. If the majority of Iranians decide that a life under their current regime is easier than a fight, any uprising is doomed to fail. And if they live too long under a government that indoctrinates them in the ideals of subservience and collectivism, it will be a long time before we see them move forward.

    Iraq is another interesting topic. Anyone who actually entertained the notion that it would be a short engagement was woefully misguided. To liberate a people who were unwilling to do it themselves, it is simply a requirement that we stay involved long enough to provide education to overcome their previous mindset. So, perhaps 2 generations? 3? We’ll see.

  • bill-tb

    Palistinian terrorists reimported for the sole purpose of killing the Iranian people — they have no stake. The Soviet Union did the same.

    I did a lot of business in Iran, have been there many times, before the Mullahs took over. The Iraninas are not dumb people, as you can see on TV. It’s funny that the evil Shah built the universities that the people now used.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Strong armed terrorist and torture tactics. Repression of free speech. China 20 years ago.
    USA 2 years from now?

  • Pilgrim

    Buzz,

    Put you helmet on before you go out today.

    I didn’t start a rumor. The first reference I saw to Palestinians working for state security was on the liveblogging at the Huffington Post (who did a great job, by the way). It didn’t come from me, it came from Huffpo.

    Then there was this kid’s statement (complete with pictures) that some of the people who beat and questioned him were non-farsi speakers.

    Do the math. I did. It was easy. Try it.

    Further, Hamas and Hezbollah are supported and trained by Iran. Do you honestly think those two groups aren’t represeted in Iran’s special militias?

    Geez, Buzz. Try thinking once in a while. It’s good for you.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus Last Best Hope

    Events have gone past demonstrations to address election fraud…civil war is next.
    Read this insight attached, investigate the source, and then realize how much of a loose cannon the present “nuke hungry” regime really is and how dangerous they actaully are.

    ———-

    It’s a coup by Ahmadinejad and HIS Revolutionary Guard. The Supreme Leader is the puppet. A very interesting take on what has happen

    Iran’s Hidden Revolution | IranTracker

    “You don’t have to be paranoid to wonder if events were following a script: protesters pour into the streets only to be beaten down by Revolutionary Guard and Basij gunmen; the regime is prepared to detain dissidents — reportedly using Facebook and Twitter to locate them; Mr. Ahmadinejad is so unworried he jets off to Russia; and every element of the confrontation has provided a pretext for an overwhelming assertion of domestic power by the Revolutionary Guards.

    What does this mean for President Obama and the policy of engagement he hopes to pursue? Some will argue that Mr. Ahmadinejad may be in a conciliatory mood because he needs talks with the United States to underscore his own legitimacy, but that can only be read as a self-serving Washington perspective. Meanwhile, the Iranian people will have suffered the consolidation of power by a ruthless regime and the transformation of a theocracy to an ideological military dictatorship. That Iran neither needs nor wants accommodation with the West.”

    MORE

    http://www.irantracker.org/analysis/irans-hidden-revolution

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    The turning point will come with the military. When it becomes clear that they are finding it hard to stand down while relatives die unarmed but still defiant, and they are on the verge of turning on the theocracy, that’s when it will change.

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