Mickey,

Wow!!!

Yeah, docdave, how about a swastika tattoo on their forehead.

Just truth in advertising, really.

Chief:

“. Iran is truly a Facist Country. Unelected

The Iranian presidential election of 2005, the ninth presidential election in Iranian history, took place in two rounds, first on June 17, 2005, and then as a run-off on June 24. It led to the victory of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, with 19.48% of the votes in the first round and 61.69% in the second. Ahmadinejad is believed to have won the second round because of his populist views, especially those regarding the poor people and their economic status. The election saw a turnout of almost 60% of eligible voters, seen as a strike back by Iran at the United States’ initial allegations that many in Iran would be restricted from voting.

Now, I expect Chief and others to contest that this was a fair election, but then myself and others contest that the elections in Iraq were.

So, there you have it. We will never apparently agree on most things but people like me love this country and refuse to be bullied by people who claim to have a franchise on the right to opinion and patriotism.

Yes, this story was a fraud. Hopefully our military friend hasn’t rushed the troops out to Iran just yet. Think, people… this story was set up by a neo-conservative friendly PR firm.

Read the story in the Asia Times.

The media is used to lie to you on purpose.

Please, think.

Thanks for the good work Z, I saw most of those earlier too.
Some are just stories about the stories.
One said the laws were drafted two years ago and UPI said the laws passed this week, News Busters said the laws are not yet in effect and one reporter adamantly dismissed the story as “absolutely factually incorrect”.

So it’s a wait and see.

“At least I’m consistent.”

You consider that a virtue, I guess. Actually, you aren’t consistent at all, except in your hate. You now mostly clothe it in moderate-sounding language, rather than the savage hatespew of your comments when you first started posting here, but it will take a lot more of that before anyone believes you have really become reasonable. I think it’s just an act to garner approval.

I suppose seeing 30K to 100+K innocent mostly Muslims slaughtered has had an effect on their next door neighbors.

True. That’s why Iran hates us. Matter of fact, this explains why Iran hated us 30 years ago when they took American hostages for over a year. They MUST have sensed the impending (i.e. in 30 years) invasion of their friends the Iraqis. They figured “Hell, let’s hold Americans hostages to discourage any future attempts to invade our chums next door.”

For diane and others on the left, that was sarcasm. Normal America is making fun of you.

Jonathan says:

Matter of fact, this explains why Iran hated us 30 years ago when they took American hostages for over a year. They MUST have sensed the impending (i.e. in 30 years) invasion of their friends the Iraqis. They figured “Hell, let’s hold Americans hostages to discourage any future attempts to invade our chums next door.”

For diane and others on the left, that was sarcasm. Normal America is making fun of you.

‘Normal’ America must be on drugs then:

Background
For several decades the United States of America had been the primary backer of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah. In 1953, emerging democracy led to the election of reformist Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh; under Operation Ajax, the CIA helped the Shah and conservative elements in Iran remove Mossadegh in what was widely seen as a coup d’état. Eight U.S. presidents provided the Shah with military and economic aid in exchange for a continuous oil supply and a strategic presence in the Middle East. Those opposed to the Shah, because he did not grant them freedoms and reforms he promised in the early 1960s, greatly resented this behaviour by the Americans. Moreover, the Shah and his elite supporters were seen as enriching themselves and living an opulent Western lifestyle; this particularly bothered religious conservatives. The social and religious opposition combined to topple the Shah’s regime in the Iranian revolution, and the Shah fled the country in January 1979.

The U.S. attempted to mitigate the damage by finding a new relationship with the de facto Iranian government, but in October of 1979, the Shah, ailing from lymphoma, was admitted to the U.S. for medical treatment. This enraged the revolutionary movement.

Now, naive little Jonathan, shall I post some of the atrocities done to Iranians under the U.S. backed Shah?

So you approve of making Jews readily identifiable? Now we know what you are.

Friend– Correct again. In Vietnam, a mother passed up a baby into a C-130 troop carrier on a humanitarian mission. The nurse war horrified when she felt the baby. It was strapped with C-4! She was reluctant to do anything until a loadmaster threw the baby back. She was again, horrified. He told here that “they” do not have the same values that we have as Americans, including the value of life. There are some here in America who apparently do not understand, nor realize this fact. They may even embrace those same fanatical “values”. The islamo-facists are similar, but probably more fanatical.
This upcoming mid-term election should include a good smattering of non-PC talk about war.

ps–I disagree with the decision to bomb Dresden.

WE LOVE MR BUSH FREAK THE MOLAS IN THE ASS S GOOD FOR EVERYONE.VERY SOON YOU IRANIAN BASTARDS AND MOLAS GONE ENJOY AMERICA INVADING YOUR IRAN. DOWN WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD COUNTRY

WELL I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A BADGE ON THAT RETARD AHMADI NEJAD BECUASE HE LOOKS LIKE A MONKEY.HAHA HIS NOT HUMAN.IAM SURE HIS MOTHER HAD SEX WITH A MONKEY IN A ZOO OR SOMETHING.HIS 1 METRE TALL AND HAS A FACE LIKE A MONKEY BUT THE AGAIN THE MONKEYS EYES LOOK NICER THAN HIS EYES SO A CREDIT TO THE MONKEY.FUCKKK YOU MOLAS ENJOY BUSHES COCK IN YOUR MUSLIM ASS SOO TATA

FUCKK THE MOLAS.SMELLY CAMEL FUCKING FAT MORONS.FUCKK YOU MOLA FUCKK YOUR CHILD MALESTING RELIGION CUNNT ENJOY MR BUSH DICK SOON BYEEE YOU FUCKING CUNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MR BUSH WE LOVE YOU

“Let’s just get it all over with, right? Let’s just go carpet bomb the entire Middle East (excluding Israel, OF COURSE) and get the bleepin’ thing over with.”

For a moment, I thought you had become sane, then realized that you were simply lying again. It is the right thing to do, but the feminized men of today won’t do it, so we will have terrorism and many innocents killed for many more years. Lefties: the gift that keeps on giving.

The USA has more than enough troops, the problem is the idea of fighting limited wars, a stupid politically-correct-idea that began in Vietnam with Lindon Jonhson deciding wihcih targets US pilots could shoot at/ bomb and when they could fire back at the enemy that was shooting at them with AAA.

The USA fighting a politically correct war is like two boxers in a ring but the US boxer who is by far the bigest and strongest of the two has one hand tied behind his back and can only hit say, the right cheek and the forehead of his opponent, and if he hits any where else he looses point – all that to please the politically correct crowd – but the opponent who is an ordinary fighter, can hit the US boxer any where – even below the belt – and any time – even after the round is finished, he can also kick and bite the US boxer anywhere and anytime:
it would be utterly ridiculous to fight this way wouldn’t you say?

Well that is exactly what is happening right now in the middle east -thanks to the pc crowd .

The US could have won easely in both Afghanistan and Iraq in about a couple of months if instead of surgical operations meant to avoid religious sites, historic sites, water melon vendors and chiken farms and this and that it had fought as it did in WWII.

The US could win easely against Iran in a couple of months – even an Iran with nukes – because the USA has far superior fire power.
But if it won’t use it – just to please the PC crowd ( who is IMPOSSIBLE to please anyway because the politically correct left hates the US no matter what the USA does )the USA will be in another ridiculous war that will drag on forever.

Imagine if the USA – to please the PC crowd – had refused to bomb Germany to avoid destroying religious sites and historic sites, and if the USA – to please the PC crowd – had refused to bomb Germany to avoid killing the children and the wives and mothers of Nazis, how long would have WWII lasted? another 6 years? Most probably much longer than that, maybe the USA would have never won and US troops would still be fighting in the streets of Berlin…
You think that ludicrous? Well Israel and Palestine have been fighting since 1948…that is what a limited politically correct war will get you = a conflict with no end in sight…

Look at how Al qaeda fights, they kill anyone anytime; women, children, humanitarian workers, even Iraqis, even muslims! they kill ANYone at ANYtime.
That is why a few hundred Al Qaeda terrorists can give a hard time to the most powerful military in the history of the world; Al qaeda does not have it’s hand tied by the pc-leftist crowd…

Amhadinejad has said of his opponents ( the USA, Israel etc..) that they are idiots, and he is right, as long as we listen to the pc leftists and as long as -with one hand tied behind our back- go to a fight against an opponent that respects NO rules at all, we are real idiots.

The pc-left has made idiots of us all.

China will not allow these words from even being mentioned. Those who even attempt to compare 30,000 killed during liberation from Sadam are quite slanted. Their perspective is skewed. That is a statistical term.
Taiwan
Tibetan independence
Falun Gong
Dalai Lama
China Democracy Party
I do not embrace the philosophy of: even if one person is killed, the effort should not be done.
What we have here is the better good, the just war. We were attacked, we are at war. We will maintain and enforce our own discipline, much to the contrast of communist countries.

diane forgets (selectively) that Saddam slaughtered 1.5 million “innocent mostly Muslims”
and the effect it had on his neighbors.
Toss in the bloodshed from the Ayatolla Khomeini of Iran and you have more than enough blame to go around.

She probably thinks the Taliban were members of the Good Neighbor Society.

diane, you must be a very happy person because ignorance is bliss.

Mickey– We share the same ideas. I really do not understand certain people who do not grasp the evils of war or communism. They may think that “America is evil” like Chomsky. The numbers are overwhelming, but they can not grasp the contrast. Stalin had a saying ~ one killing is a murder, a million are statistics !

She, who doesn’t like my mouse ears, should know that we live in a world of inherently constrained options, tragic choices, and variably incremental trade-offs, rather than one of categorical and emotionally satisfying “solutions”.

She is fortunate to live in a land where reality is optional. That type of freedom wasn’t free.

I love the idea of making the Jews where a yellow badges, arm band, I wish they would do that here in America, and to expand on this idea all Jewish business owners should be forced to hang a sign in the window displaying the fact that the bussiness is owned by a Jew, and likewise a Cross for Christian owned bussiness.

Another thing I love is how some throw things in that is absolutely untrue, the Nazis did not invent gun controll, this related to the Versailles Treaty, the Nazis did leave certain restrictions apply, but they made it a hell of alot easier to obtain firearms.

I just love the were killing you because we love you attitudes, wake up people, it serves no interest to America, it’s all for the greater Israel.

Again I ask you Bushketeers, How is it that Bush is saving America from a future attack all while our borders were kept and continues to be wide open? Come on people its all a sham.

Lies, Lies, Lies. WW2 dont forget Japan was provoked to attack Pearl Harbor, the McCollum memo outlined it all.

Let’s load up those National Guard troops and start the invasion, there’s plenty of those guard to do Afghanistan, Iraq, the Border and now Iraq. Oh but the war in Iraq is over so we can just shuffle our men and women across the border since we are done in Iraq ( according to some posters here.)

and Christians

No concern for Christians, just Jews?

The last one to do it was a White man, a professed ‘christian’, Adolph Hitler. In fact, some of the religious leaders ‘christian’..backed him.

Of course, we didn’t make Iraqis wear religious differentiation badges..we just shocked and awed them to death no matter what religion they were.

I think ALL of it is horrible; what the Iranian parliament apparently just passed and what we are doing in Iraq. I see no difference because, in my eyes, people are people and they all bleed red blood which cannot be broken down into religion.

I suppose seeing 30K to 100+K innocent mostly Muslims slaughtered has had an effect on their next door neighbors.

Diversity

RBB: I know I’ve told you this many times. After 9/11 the country decided that we were not going to wait for the terrorists to attack us again.

We were going after the terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism.

It really isn’t that hard of a concept to understand for most of us.

rbb– Continuing to supply facts, here are three stories: One by the UPI, one referencing Canadian Press, and one by the Christian News Wire, but someone here is prejudiced against Christians, or bloggers, or conservative canadians, so here is a fourth source–
The National Post. Not much from the MSM here in the USA so far today.

and here is one source questioning this story.

Hopefully this will show up in more than the blog-asphere.

Your statement would appear to support badges for Jews. So no response is needed.

Link to above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

And people on this site skip over any link that goes against their grain, just dismiss facts out of hand. Jonathan snydly states that Americans were kidnapped in Iran because they were ‘anticipating’ a war in Iraq. When I post the truth about the U.S. interefering in Iran’s internal affairs and backing the Shah with his reign of torture, they ignore it. When you bring up the lack of security at the borders under Bush and the open ports (containers not adequately checked), they ignore it. And when you bring up elections in Iran, they’re unfair but Iraq’s are fair and balanced, even though Sunnis complained about them, and when you post statements from women in Iraq about how horrendous their life is under Bush’s occupation, they ignore it.

Makes you wonder if they have cotton in their ears and blinders on. I don’t wonder, really. If it doesn’t fit their agenda, it’s not real.

But I’ll keep trying.

MM– I read that one, too, thought it would be considered “unreliable”, too one-sided. “Some people you just can’t help”. — movie: Cool Hand Luke.

Ugh, yet another troll.

No need to respond to your stupidity also Wetback.

I weep for a world filled with the likes of Wetback, Dhummi and Saeed.

No wonder things are so screwed up.

rbb– I will put you in my logical, adult, thinker box. Refreshing exchange.
MM- Yes, profound pontification!
Friend- Thanks. I try to avoid those who seem to have been indoctrinated a-la Jane Fonda.

Sheep.

The words belong to Thomas Sowell.
I am but the humble messenger.

Sadam garnered 99.6% of those who went to the polls in his last election. In the former, failed USSR, the proletariat were the only ones who were enfranchised to vote. In Cuba….. well, most of us here can discriminate between a farce or show and a free and open election. In Iran, the mullas, about 10% of the country vote and control this true regime and rule over the other 90%. Maybe soon they will take to the streets as was done in the Phillipines when Cori Acquino was elected and threw out Marcos.
Badges for Jews.
rbb– Let’s see how many media outlets air this story over the weekend. See you Monday.

Come on, guys! You know it is only a free and open election when each candidate has a different colored ballot. As they do in Iran,Russia, and Venezuela. Those Great Democracies who are leading us all forward to liberty and peace. It is only fair that everyone watching know who you are voting for as you drop that ballot in the box, that way you can recieve the rewards you so richly deserve!

In Iran they hang women for having been raped – not the man who raped her, NO the woman who has been raped, and they use cranes – how modern of them! – to hang them publicly.

You can appease a kitten but not a snake.
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Who is the snake?

Who is in a sovereign nation pre-emptively, despite no attack by that nation of their country, and responsible for the deaths of up to 100+K people?

Americans like you are not any more patriotic than those who disagree with you. We simply see a pattern of American involvement in the Middle East that has brought about problems that we then want to blame the countries we interfered with for. It was European White folk who killed Jews, Gypsies, Romanians, retarded, mixed race..not Arabs, not Persians, not Egyptians, not Palestinians.

We imprisoned Japanese in WW II in this country in camps.

Ahmadinjead has said nothing more drastic about Israel than Israelis have said about Iran. Of course, there’s that duplicity again.

What I really dislike about people like you is that you see the world only from your own perspective. Not the perspective of the people you harm.

How do I feel about ‘that’, Diane? I don’t like it anymore than I like many of the things about this country’s justice system. How do you feel about those? (Paroling rapists to rape again?)
Turning women into the victims in rape cases where they become the defendants, not the plaintiffs?

If you’re going to not like something, at least be honest enough to be consistent. Admit some blame on America’s part where it’s deserved.

Now, if you’d like me to, I’ll get some quotes by Israeli leaders about what should be done to their neighbors. I’ll get you proof that they will not allow UN inspectors to view their nuclear capabilities but want their neighbors put under those restrictions, or not allowed any nuclear capabilities. I’ll show you where they took one out in Iraq. Can you imagine if it had been the other way around? No, and you won’t admit it’s a double standard either, will you?

I’d love to see documentation of how many hangings of women who were raped there have been in Iran in the last 50 years. Do you have any?

And then I’ll show you atrocities committed by Israelis on innocent Palestinian children and women. I DO have those.

The Real Iraq
by Amir Taheri

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/Taheri_0606.htm

And people on this site skip over any link that goes against their grain, just dismiss facts out of hand.

Just like Dianne skiped over the Saddam tapes and the thousand of documents that go against her grain, and she just dismissed those facts out of hand.

Oh yeah and Dianne made fun of me for believing official documents from Saddam that even the MSM says are authentic.

She prefered believing dated information from 2003, because it fits her agenda.

the pot and the kettle…

How nice of her.

Fonda, Chief?

Sorry, I could care less what Fonda has to say about anything.
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“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11″ attacks.

President Bush
September, 2003

That was then and this now; We have the Saddam tapes who’s autheticity has been confirmed by one of his generals ( who’s name escapes me right now) and every expert who have heard them – Hell! even the MSM does not doubt the tapes are real! …the MSM just avoids mentioning them…

How convenient it is to ignore the Saddam tapes that came out a couple weeks ago in which we can hear Saddam and his men talk about WMD and terror attacks and much more.
The MSM did an incredible job of HIDING that story to help you people stay in your September 10th state of denial.

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And so, just a ‘couple of weeks ago’ changed everything for you, right? Hahaha!!!

Well, George Bush and his men have been talking about WMD’s for sometime. He wants about 125 new ones a year made here in the good ol’ US of A. Of course, we’re the only ones allowed…except Israel.

You guys are really too funny.

As George said, he had nothing to do with the Septemer 11th attacks and you really need to accept that.

Pish?

Ditto.

“I’m extremely calm…” I hope you realize that is an oxymoron.

THIS STORY NOT TRUE!
Iran: Lawmakers Debate Women’s Clothing
Associated Press May 20, 2006

… Emad Afroogh, the legislator who sponsored the bill and is chairman of Parliament’s Cultural Committee, said that the Canadian report was untrue and that the measure sought only to make women dress more conservatively and avoid Western fashions. Another lawmaker, Morris Motamed, a Jew, also said the Canadian report was false.

ALSO NOT TRUE Holocaust “historian” Edwin Black claimed that Iran was responsible for the Holocaust. But see Iran, Jews and the Holocaust: An answer to Mr. Black by Dr Abbas Milani of Stanford University.

More about Jews of Iran:
1- Jews in Iran Describe a Life of Freedom, Christian Science Monitor, February 03, 1998
(http://csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/1998/02/03/intl/intl.3.html)

2- Polish Jews were given refuge in Iran during WWII
Associated Press
Thursday, November 23, 2000
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53268-2000Nov22?language=printer)

3- Iranian Jews PREFER Tehran to Tel-Aviv, Jerusalem Post Nov. 3, 2005
(http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131043721479&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

pish.

I think we all have a clear picture of who you are.

Hey Ken, what happened to the badge story retraction post?

P.S. rbb, notice how Jonathan never came back when confronted with the real reason the kidnappings took place in Iran years ago? They just throw out this half-baked nonsense and expect people to buy it…and they do. But then, their revered leader Bush does the same thing and they swallow it whole.

It seems like these planted stories are getting caught earlier and more easily these days. Interesting commentary here.