Interview: Cramer Says President Obama Has Used Sandy Hook Shooting For Gun Control Agenda

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Rep. Kevin Cramer was in North Dakota this weekend and announced his plans for a round table discussion about gun rights. It will be a part of a series of forums on American issues, and will be held on February 22nd in Fargo.

Cramer says he’s putting this discussion together in North Dakota because he’s dissatisfied with how the issue is being handled in Washington DC. “What we don’t need is an emotional response, a knee jerk response, from people trying to use this tragedy,” Cramer told me. “Unfortunately the President has done exactly what I hoped he wouldn’t do, which is use the tragedy.”

Last week President Obama announced his gun control agenda, and signed 23 executive orders aimed at gun control. Cramer wasn’t impressed with the president’s proposals. “If they’re 23 such great ideas, why did it take him over four years to come up with them?” Speaking about President Obama’s entire list of proposals, both executive orders and policy proposals for Congress (all stemming from what Cramer described as Vice President Joe Biden’s “phony round table”), the Congressman says he sees little to like. “Let’s have a thorough discussion not just about guns and clips and what we call a particular weapon, but rather let’s have comprehensive discussion on the issue.”

“I think the President hasn’t been helpful in this discussion,” Cramer told me.

I also asked Rep. Cramer a few questions about fiscal matters. Asked if he supports the plan being reported in the media to authorize a 3-month increase in the debt ceiling so that the Senate can pass a budget, Cramer said he’s “inclined to go along with it” but that he doesn’t think the idea will go anywhere.

“I don’t think we’re going to raise the debt ceiling for three months because I have a hard time believing Harry Reid is going to pass a budget,” he said.

Here’s the audio:

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edqe68huhF8&w=560&h=315]

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • NDConservative2011

    As a conservative and a gun owner as well, I appreciate Congressman Cramer’s approach to the 2nd ammendment. It is refreshing to see him hosting forums in North Dakota on subjects that may be controversial, but need to be addressed. I for one plan to attend the forum on the 22nd of February in Fargo to hear what the Congressman has to say. Public forums were something that were entirely foreign to Earl Pomeroy, and appear to be off the radar for both of our present senators. Heidi is hiding and John is M.I.A.

    • VocalYokel

      I’m guessing Frau Heitkamp is waiting for Komrad Reid to tell her what her Independent position is, and Slippery John is formulating a statement that doesn’t actually say anything.

      • $8194357

        Yup

    • noblindersonme

      and I have to reply to the continued ignorance and revisionist lies guys like you WANT to remain as slander to the past ! Public forums were NOT something foreign to him -ASSH*LE!
      How many times do you think you can repeat that lie and how many times do guys like me have to refute it???
      In the past I listed dozens and dozens of public forums the former congressmen attended ( I OUGHTA KNOW I WAS AT MANY OF THEM!) . Because Pomeroy did not attend a few you expected him to go to ( the tea party rant and raves I expect you are referencing) you blather with your lies about his record.
      There were dozens of flood , farm , veteran , etc public forums that I was at and that I read about , and that were attended by ( most of the time) members of both parties representing our great state!
      Were you there assh*le??? ( I should ask embarrassed and chagrined by my profane tone , but how thew hell else do you face up to lies?)

      • noblindersonme

        Question for you nd neocon- Several flood forums were held in the Devils Lake area to debate and discuss the massive damage and the massive SPENDING that occurred there . Were you there ? Pomeroy Dorgan Conrad Hoeven Dalrymple , many more too , I am not sure if Berg ever made it there , don’t ever remember him but since I can’t document it I am NOT going to bash him even though I could be like you and bash him out of pure spite.
        Why weren’t you there ??? or don’t you just give a damn ! about a billion $ are being spent up there! Many of us , and YES many of us democrats are questioning it all . and many of the local citizens who happen to vote republican wanted this federal help. Didn’t all these PUBLIC FORUMS interest you at all?
        OR IS IT BECAUSE ANYTHING LIKE THIS IS JUST FOREIGN TO YOU!

        • Lianne

          my my you get testy about a single statement that is not even relevant to the story. Calm down. Pomeroy is long gone—well excpet when he comes from the east to lobby.

      • NDConservative

        Hey noblindersonme,
        You must have been an absolute riot in your debate class. I’m sure your debate instructor must have been very proud of your command of the English language. Interjecting a few choice cuss words must be your secret weapon in winning debates. Losing your cool also seems to be your strong suit. From what I can garner from your blog name, no blinders are necessary as your head must be located in your lower extremities. But, enough praise for now as it may go to your head.
        The public forums which deal with natural disasters are no brainers for any politician – Republican or Democrat. They ride in on their white horse and proclaim that they are the savior of the day just for sitting through a few meetings and for requesting funds to assist with the disaster.
        Where were the Earls, Kents and Byrons when the so called affordable health care act was the hot topic. Where were the forums across North Dakota that would inform the citizens of the provisions in the over 2000 page law. That’s right, there were no forums as they did not have the guts to show up in the state. They preferred that the legislation be shoved down our throats and passed in the dead of night.
        Federal help for disasters is one thing, but misguided policy which will cost every American citizen freedom of choice as well as additional expense should have been discussed in a public forum.
        Again, it’s an easy task to hold feel good forums, but it takes courage to host those that are controversial, especially with open mikes and without planted operatives.

  • sbark

    Dont all “discussions” really just have to start with what is causing the culture of violence?

    Obama touched on vid games, but left Hollywood untouched-they are the culture changers in this country
    http://spectator.org/archives/2013/01/21/want-to-stop-violence-start-in
    The left would also have to admit the generational welfare dependency and all its problems are part and parcel of the problem——see inner city Chicago, S.central LA, NYC ghettos, DC ghettos. Also the de-valuation of life via abortion has to be part of the discussion, add in the assimilation of the mentally ill into society, and then to have the Teachers Unions demand they be on depressants and drugs so they dont disturb the rest of the class.

    The Left will attempt to force the focus on the looks of a particular gun and or the size of the magazine…which they feel there is no reason for more than 7 rounds

    ……..have they every heard of Bill Ayers and his Weather Underground, Black Panthers, Charles Manson, Waco, Ruby Ridge, LaRaza, Bloods, Crips, the ex-marine or the rancher on the Ariz border last year………

    ………..they all needed 10 mags with 30 rounds just to protect themselves, and in some cases from our own govt agents put on the loose by Janet Reno or Holder, let alone the likes of Obama confidant Bill Ayers.

    • Clairvoyant

      The left produces all that Howwywood and Fox TV stuff- the right elects to watch it

      • sbark

        I dont remember that last movie I bothered to take in……and that goes for most of the people I know……its just not something even on a to-do list.

  • SusanBeehler

    To use this as a rebuttal “If they’re 23 such great ideas, why did it take him over four years to come up with them?” Really, that is his statement. Maybe because of the outcry of gun owners when you say the word “gun” they freak out and run and buy more guns is why any politician even the President tiptoes around the issue. I really did not feel like I had a “dog” in the fight until Sandy Hook, the stark reality of what is happening with gun violence throughout our country opened my eyes. Sometimes the brutality of something gets the voters attention and Sandy Hook was such a case, it is terrible it takes a tragedy to discuss gun violence but the discussion and changes are needed.

    • splined

      Obama Ignores Dangers Of
      Father-Free ZonesFri, Jan 18 2013 00:00:00 E A14_ISSUES

      Posted 01/17/2013 06:52 PM ET in Investors Business Daily

      Violence: If gun-control worked, the president’s hometown would be
      safe. Instead, gangs of fatherless youths daily kill other fatherless youths.
      How about an executive order endorsing marriage and intact families?

      We do not know how history might have been different had the parents of
      Newtown shooter Adam Lanza not divorced in 2009, leaving the troubled young man
      with his mother in a single-parent home. But if there’s a thread that links the
      carnage at Sandy Hook with the 500-plus murders in Chicago in 2012, it’s not
      just the use of guns to kill. It’s also the absence of an intact nuclear
      family.

      Neither do we know if President Obama is aware of the now-canceled cable
      “reality” show “All My Babies’ Mamas” that was dropped from Oprah Winfrey’s
      Oxygen network after a public outcry. The show was to follow Shawty Lo, a rapper
      from Atlanta who fathered 11 children by 10 mothers.

      We have certainly come a long way from “The Cosby Show.” In 1965, Daniel
      Patrick Moynihan wrote “The Negro Family: A Case for National Action.” At the
      time, 25% of black children were born out of wedlock, a number Moynihan called
      alarming. Today, 72% of black children are now born out of wedlock. In fact, 36%
      of white children are born out of wedlock. Of Hispanic children, 53% are born
      outside of marriage.

      President Obama once said that if he had a son, he’d look like Trayvon
      Martin, the young African-American shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer in
      Florida. But the president failed to note that if he had a son, he would be in a
      home with two loving parents.

      When Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton divorced in 1999, their son Trayvon was
      just a toddler. He lived with his mother. He was 17 when he was shot.

      The consequences of fatherlessness are staggering. In such homes there is no
      male role model who gets up every morning, shaves, gets dressed and goes to
      work, then comes home to have dinner with his family. There is no male role
      model to restrain a young man’s masculine impulses and guide him into
      adulthood.

      The situation is made worse by the staggering unemployment among young black
      males that soaking the rich won’t alleviate. These young men find their role
      models in promiscuous rappers and the leaders of street gangs.

      Up to 80% of Chicago’s murders and shootings are gang-related, according to
      police. By one estimate, the city has almost 70,000 gang members. A police audit
      last spring identified 59 gangs and 625 factions. Most are on the South and West
      sides.

      As columnist Larry Elder reminds us, the solution to both crime and poverty
      is simple: “Finish high school, don’t have a child before the age of 20 and get
      married before having the child.” Yet of the president’s 23 anti-gun crime
      proposals, not one deals with the documented disintegration of the American
      family, particularly African-American families.

      We don’t need another CDC study on the root causes of violence. We see it on
      the streets of Chicago and other heavily minority inner cities. Twenty children
      and six adults were killed in Newtown, Conn., last month. In the last couple of
      weeks in Chicago, 25 people have already been murdered. Most were young black
      and Hispanic men, murdered by other young black and Hispanic men.

      It’s not entirely true that President Obama has not done enough to promote
      marriage. After all, he now supports gay marriage and has ordered the Justice
      Department not to defend the Defense of Marriage Act. But that’s not the kind of
      marriage we should be promoting if we are to rebuild and strengthen the nuclear
      families needed to nurture young men into stable and productive adulthood.

      Maybe President Obama can have Vice President Biden form a task force on the
      subject.

      • SusanBeehler

        I don’t disagree with everything you are saying; but how can one man be responsible for the dysfunction of many families. Maybe you or “Larry Elder” should run for President sounds like you have a few executive orders you want to sign. You may be making a case for abortion, you may be making a case for men to “zip” it if they won’t take responsibility; you make be making the case of the mark of slave history which ripped families apart and sold them. I can also tell you many of the school shootings were by those under 20 and they got their weapons from family members.
        Your statement:
        “We don’t need another CDC study on the root causes of violence.” There has only been 3 studies since 1974 done by the CDC. Thanks to the Gun lobby Congress prohibited federal agencies, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health, from offering research grants to study anything that could be used to help deter gun violence.

        • sbark

          its fully apparent what is the root cause of gun violence………….its a end result symptom of Liberalism and its unintendede, but very predictable effects
          Welfare, Abortion, Hollywoods culture push, lowered value to life………just alot more people going postal

        • $8194357

          (I don’t disagree with everything you are saying; but how can one man be responsible for the dysfunction of many families)

          Pushing the false moral PC ideologies that create the destruction
          of our society…Every vote Democrat helps the ‘ideological big tent’
          do its destruction from within..
          Most folks are blind lemmings to this anti American agenda,
          but the top players know exactly what they are accomplishing thru
          liberal feel good stealth.

      • borborygmi

        Most were young black
        and Hispanic men, murdered by other young black and Hispanic men…..Most were probably gun owners also.

        • $8194357

          That truth would get a conservitive called a racist gurgle.

          • borborygmi

            I didn’t know it was racist to be a gun owner or as Cam corrected me gun possessor. I suppose I could of put the first part in quotes but I assumed you read what splined wrote.

          • $8194357

            From your comment stating the actual facts on the converstion.

            (.Most were young black
            and Hispanic men, murdered by other young black and Hispanic men.)
            If a conservitive repeats these same facts they are called racist…

          • borborygmi

            spline wrote that , I used it and should have put it in quotes. I assumed you had read the thread. I believe spline is aligned with you and I didn’t think it was racist at all. It was well documented fact.. NOw are you for gun registration?

          • $8194357

            In every other western country registration came just before confiscation…Most used license and registration fees to collect and destroy later on down the line…Why would I be against this pattern?

          • borborygmi

            So what I projected then is there really isn’t anything as illegal firearms just firearms that aren’t registered is correct.

          • $8194357

            Leftist statist apoligist single point wonder?
            It is in my opinion that the 2nd Amendment means
            what it says and says what it means..
            If you are not a felon restricted from owning firearms in the first place,
            “shall not be in fringed” does not include the nanny states registration and/or regulation/confiscation….

          • $8194357

            What Federal government confiscation agenda could it all hinge on fart bubble? Sorros been primming and pushing DC to follow the UN law and disarm its citizens since the early 90’s..Why gurgle?
            …A global elitie running the agenda thru the UN,
            thats why blind lemming..

            UN AGENDA 21…Read it..

            Global facist tyrany in the name of enviromentalism….

            Never happen here huh apoligist?

            READ..

            Dr. Garrow is not known for being a wild crackpot or part of the political fringe, so when he recently made the following post on his Facebook page, it got the attention of a number people:

            “I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new ‘litmus test’ in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. ‘The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.’ Those who will not are being removed.”
            When asked who is source was, Garrow replied:

            “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

            Read more:

            http://godfatherpolitics.com/9112/obama-tailoring-military-leadership-to-only-those-who-will-shoot-fellow-americans/#ixzz2IpSX4b5S

        • camsaure

          I doubt like Hell they were gun owners. They probably may have had ILLEGAL posession of guns that they or their peers stole. Having possesion of something does not necisarily make one the owner. Although that would not fit into your narrative.

          • borborygmi

            I stand corrected , gun possessor

          • borborygmi

            Considering most members of the NRA feel that shouldn’t be any laws on the books regarding gun control , what should it matter how or who owns the guns. Just think the guns used at Sandy Hook were legal guns. The people in Chicago are just practicing there 2nd Amendment Rights.
            They have them for protection, for self defense and to use in case the Authorities (the representatives of the Gov’t) come after them trying to take their freedom. Some of them just have the balls to thumb their noses at gov’t gun control and not register them. The same thing the NRA and most people on this board would love to do. Camsaure, 7.62, Splined, 308t and ………..Are you for gun registration? I know 7.62 isn’t because then the jack booted thugs in UN uniforms will know who has and where to go to take your firearms away.

      • sbark

        Gun violence is just another symptom of Liberalism……..fatherless welfare, no value to life via abortion, decades of pitting one american against another, Hollywood violence for generations along with their lifestyle on parade.

  • KJUU

    How refreshing to see this issue addressed as “Gun Rights” instead of “Gun Control”. There is another angle to this entire situation, and Rep. Cramer seems to be the only one to call it by name.

    • $8194357

      The left have since rebranded and are using ‘gun violence’.
      Focus group money well spent?

  • Dirty Harry

    Wow. The President is using the tragedy for political leverage. What a shocker. Actually, Rep. Cramer is stating the obvious. But it needs to be said over and over again until the drumbeat is pounding in the heads of all Americans.

    • noblindersonme

      WOW! ANY politician using tragedy for political leverage!!
      WHAT A SHOCKER!!!
      Can I state THAT OBVIOUS!!
      ( didn’t you idiots pounce on and drool all over the tragedy in Libya last summer purely because it was a extremely opportunistic event you guys could leverage??) oh it was sooo different . Baloney ! the modus operendi is the same!!!
      Example # 12,345 of neocons indignant over behavior they tolerate when it fits them!
      btw – the American public’s outrage and shock over CHILDREN dying in a terrible shooting does have something to do with our President’s taking some action-or do you idiots think OUR President should stay silent on this???

  • LastBestHope

    Capt. Obvious.
    (‘cept to Cult Obama members…and they’ll dismiss this old white guy in a MSNBC second)

  • borborygmi

    Shocker: NRA uses Sandy Hook Tragedy to promote their agenda, Firearms manufacturers, dealers hope for a great 1st quarter. Believe that Sandy Hook and President Obama’s 2nd inauguration will create the hysteria among the gun owning public to boost their bottom line.

    • LastBestHope

      The NRA did not use a parade of children to beg that we not shred the Bill of Rights.

      • borborygmi

        They sure benefitted. Our 2nd Amendment rights are already compromised because there is already gun control. There are some weapons that the gun buying public can’t get their hands or is extremely difficult to get their hands on.

      • Matthew Hawkins

        No they just created a national ad where they lied about the President’s children’s security. The school president Obama’s children go to does not employ armed guards. It was an outright lie.

        • 308T

          You bet! It must be true because the libiots at WAPO said so.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            It the idiots at Breitbart said so, the school denies it.

          • 308T

            If the school has armed guards or not Obama is still a hypocrite for claiming guns wouldn’t help keep kids in schools safe because his kids are protected by men with guns(secret service). I’m fine with his family having armed security as long as he doesn’t deny my kids the same protection in schools.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            If you don’t think the children of any President are at a particularly high risk than you are an idiot.

          • MetisMick

            Why should any child be more deserving of protection than any other? Just as any individual citizen, does the President or any elected official have a greater right to self protection?

          • 308T

            “particularly high risk” Remind me of the last time a POTUS had his kids killed while they were at school, a mall or anywhere? I said in the above post I’m fine with the Presidents kids being protected by guns. Us common folk have our kids shot up in schools every year because the Leftists in this country claim our children don’t “need” armed guards or armed teachers at our schools. Matthew Hawkins, people like you are are a danger to this country & our individual rights because you have a serious lack of common sense.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          I didn’t actually watch the NRA ad, but wasn’t their point (at least with Obama’s children) that they get protection from the Secret Service who, you know, use guns?

          They did make a mistake about Gregory’s kids though. And the ad was kind of a dumb idea. The NRA is winning this debate. They didn’t need to go there.

          • 308T

            The ad wasn’t a dumb idea, Rob. Yes the NRA is winning this debate but taking their foot off the anti-gunners throat IS a dumb idea. NRA needed to “go there” because no other civil rights Org or political Org had the ball$ to callout BHO on his hypocrisy! You always b!tch about PC bullsh!t in this country but when an Org like NRA calls a spade a spade you get all butt hurt about it…WTF bro?!

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      The NRA probably wouldn’t have weighed in on the Sandy Hook issue at all had the anti-gun folks not immediately seized on it to promote their agenda.

      I’m sure you won’t remember, but the NRA actually waited several days after the shooting (unlike President Obama and others) before saying anything.

      • Matthew Hawkins

        They were saying it was the fault of gun free zones within a day. They didn’t wait for antibody.

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