Interesting: Petraeus Uses “Victory” To Describe Mission In Iraq

We’re not allowed to think that we actually won the war in Iraq, even though it’s clear to any honest observer that we have. And, clearly, the architect of that victory thinks we won as well.

Army Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. Forces throughout the Middle East, said he’s continuing talks with the White House about strategy in Afghanistan, but in the end will do whatever he’s told.
Petraeus spoke to hundreds of cadets at the Air Force Academy on Thursday, telling them his secrets to leadership. He addressed Afghanistan when one cadet asked him how he would handle a disagreement with President Barack Obama on strategy there.
“We will support the decision that is made by the president,” said Petraeus, who heads U.S. Central Command.
The general signaled that any change is more about how troops are used rather than how many are sent to battle. He addressed his strategy in Iraq during the 2007 “surge” that sent troops into cities to enforce security, clearing out insurgents ahead of rebuilding work.
“The surge was more than 30,000 extra troops,” he said. “It was a surge of ideas.”
He cited the Iraq changes, including pushing soldiers into neighborhoods, as a key to victory in Iraq. That’s starting to happen in Afghanistan, as soldiers pull out of remote areas to concentrate on securing cities and towns.

Granted, that’s not a direct quote to Petraeus, but barring a rather unbelievable misinterpretation of his comments Petraeus thinks we won in Iraq.
And, clearly, we did. Though it’s politically inconvenient for the media/left to admit as much.

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  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I’m sorry, Whinny! I mistook you for a sane commenter. I’ll try not to make that mistake again! After the pretty nurse gives you your meds, ask her for a dictionary (if you can handle one with your arms strapped behind your back) and look up both “empire” and “neocon”. Is Obama a “neocon” inducing bankruptcy?
    I don’t expect you to understand the definitions, though.

    Oh, and “Proof Negative”? Very clever. Give yourself a cookie!

  • http://www.2plus2equals5.net winston_smith1

    if we won in iraq then why are our troops still there?

    and afghanistan, the “graveyard of empires”, don’t hold your breath for victory there.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    BTW, if you “knew” we’d bring it up, why make such an idiotic statement in the first place?
    Or was your frontal lobe an early acquisition of the US “Empire”?

  • HG

    More ignorant words have nere been posted.

    Unless you count Dino’s, Hannitized’s, and many if not most of the resident libs on this site.

  • Hanni

    They key to spreading propaganda is to pass information along that most people are too stupid to decipher. Many cons will walk away believing Patreaus used the word victory, when he did not. Rob’s job is complete.

    Rob is a propagandist, and Kenny is a moronic child making an uneducated defense for propaganda.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    Thanks for sharing your leftie delusions with us.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    The “empire” of the US includes Germany and Japan? Seriously, Winnie: cut back on the recreational drugs, man! Try for a post that doesn’t make us think “Winnie the Spew”.

  • Lioncourt

    The stuff that was in quotes was his direct words. The stuff that is in bold is the “non-direct quote”.

    Sorry bud, your case falls through again.

    I am not talking about the athor of the article’s use of quotes. I am talking about Rob’s use of quotes in his headline.

    If Patreaus did not use the work Victory than it is unehtical for Rob to put quotes around it.

  • http://www.2plus2equals5.net winston_smith1

    i knew you’d bring that up. i guess iraq is the latest acquisition in the US’s empire building.

  • sayanything-12

    Winston:

    and afghanistan, the “graveyard of empires”, don’t hold your breath for victory there.

    Um… I think you need to study up on on old Ghengis Khan there. It wasn’t the graveyard of his empire.

    LC:

    If Patreaus did not use the work Victory than it is unehtical for Rob to put quotes around it.

    Or.. .just an error.

  • Lioncourt

    He admits in the post that the quote used is a paraphrase and not a direct quote.

    Than don’t use the quotes in the headline. When you use quotes it means it was not a paraphrase, but a direct quote. Most people don’t read the full article. The purpose was to deceive.

  • sayanything-42

    “Winnie the Spew”,

    That word [Empire], you keep using it, but I do not think it means what you think it means. /Inego Montoya Mode

    The closest the United States has come to “Empire” was in the period following the Spanish American War, and even that was a stretch when compared to historical Empires. If Iraq were an Imperial possession / Territory of the United States, we’d be selling their oil for our benefit.

    Get a clue and get back to us.

  • Lioncourt

    This is grade school logic. If someone says “man I want a sandwich,” a direct quote would be the exact words listed. However, if someone tells another person that so and so wanted a sandwich…they may not use the exact words, but the quote is still correct.

    Do you know what a quotation mark is?

    Either of a pair of punctuation marks (“curly” or “straight”) used primarily to mark the beginning and end of a passage attributed to another and repeated word for word.

  • Lioncourt

    Granted, that’s not a direct quote to Petraeus, but barring a rather unbelievable misinterpretation of his comments Petraeus thinks we won in Iraq.

    Do you understand what it means when you put quotes around a word? It means that is what he actually said.

  • http://www.2plus2equals5.net winston_smith1

    i’m sorry that you don’t have the intelligence enough to wake it witty.

    i’m sure that the democratic undergroung posters would love to see this site. because all of you are idiots. flat out idiots.

  • Lioncourt

    But this is YOUR headline:

    Interesting: Petraeus Uses “Victory” To Describe Mission In Iraq

    Are you trying to claim that is not intentionally misleading?

  • sayanything-42

    “Winnie the Spew”,

    You could also call your ass your elbow with an equal level of accuracy and credibility.

  • http://www.2plus2equals5.net winston_smith1

    take your blinders off, Proof Negative. this empire we’ve created will be the death of our republic. death by neocon induced bankruptcy.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    We won in Japan and Germany, and our troops are still there. I can’t believe you don’t know that.

  • sayanything-42

    Eneils notes:

    Uttering the word “Victory” in the presence of democraps, liberal commies, lefty turds, etc causes them to gag, puke and then faint.

    And what do you know, a deadtreerat proceeds to demonstrate all three!

  • http://www.2plus2equals5.net winston_smith1

    well, i could use the words “hegemonic power”. or i could say its an informal empire.

    read, and get back to me. :O)

    oh yeah, i guess you aren’t concerned that the US is going to go bankrupt if your party doesn’t get the blame for it, huh?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Substitute “Germany” or Japan” for “Iraq” and then, get back to us!
    You may continue to hold your breath, though.

  • sayanything-3960

    Or.. .just an error.

    He admits in the post that Petreaus did not say “victory”. If it was an error he would have corrected it.

    He claims he wants to be treated like a real news organization, but he doesn’t want to have the ethics of one. He just wants t post his biased articles with no criticism.

  • AKA WOOF

    Only a fool or a scoundrel would call Iraq a victory.

  • sayanything-4272

    We haven’t won anything from our occupation of Iraq.

  • sayanything-4272

    Yeah, that is “interesting”.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    You were proved wrong, so now you try to change the subject. Pure leftie dishonesty and denial.

  • sayanything-453

    Same can be said about you. Have you figured out where Greece is located?
    Hint: Not in Asia Minor as you said.

  • sayanything-2804

    Actually, we did take its brain. We gave it to the Public Schools and they practiced “Scorched Earth” policy on it.

  • sayanything-1317

    He admits in the post that the quote used is a paraphrase and not a direct quote.

    This is grade school logic. If someone says “man I want a sandwich,” a direct quote would be the exact words listed. However, if someone tells another person that so and so wanted a sandwich…they may not use the exact words, but the quote is still correct.

    Thank God you don’t need debating skills in your job.

  • sayanything-221

    Uttering the word “Victory” in the presence of democraps, liberal commies, lefty turds, etc causes them to gag, puke and then faint.

  • sayanything-1317

    The stuff that was in quotes was his direct words. The stuff that is in bold is the “non-direct quote”.

    Sorry bud, your case falls through again.

  • sayanything-1317

    I’m sorry bud, but everyone else is right and you’re wrong. America isn’t “empire building”. We spend our blood, and our resources and our money to free other countries. Unfortunately, then we offer them military aid so that they can use their little bit of money to try and rebuild their country after whatever dictator we freed them from ruined it. Usually then, they don’t want to start their own military again, and we never leave.

    In addition to not getting anything for being the world’s military, we also have to pay most of these countries rent for the priviledge of having our bases there to defend them.

    If that sounds like an “empire” to you, you have no business lecturing anyone on how stupid THEY are.

  • sayanything-2804

    You found us out, yes, it is a closely guarded secret that we own Germany and Japan.

    Well it’s been an absolute delight having you on, we have some lovely parting gifts, thanks for playing, Bu’ Bye, now.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Which is why I said it wasn’t a direct quote.

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