Instead Of Capping Emissions, Why Not Allow Congestion Pricing For Power?

Today I attended a press event about cap and trade put on by North Dakota Public Service Commissioner Brian Kalk. Kalk talked about cap and trade being bad policy, but he went beyond that and said that Republicans need to offer something on energy other than just saying “no” to what Democrats and Obama offered.
Kalk had some ideas for what he called a “national energy policy.” I’m not entirely sure that passing such a thing is even possible in a nation as socially and geographically diverse as this one, and I’m inclined to say that we need fewer stabs at federal solutions and more focus on state government. But all that aside, one of the pillars of Kalk’s proposed “national energy policy” caught my eye. Namely, what he called “demand side management” of energy consumption.
Now, as a staunch conservative, that raised my eyebrows. I don’t want the government managing my demand or consumption. What angels in government could we ever trust to do such a thing? Personally, while I think he’s a great guy, I wouldn’t even trust Brian Kalk to do that.
So I asked Brian about this pillar of his proposed national energy policy, and his reply was interesting. What he’s talking about isn’t government rationing of power use but rather (if I understood him correction) something more like market-driven congestion pricing. Which is something I wrote about back in 2007 when the state’s PSC was considering it.
Congestion pricing is based on a model many urban areas have used to clear their toll roads of congestion. It’s based on supply and demand pricing. During peak times of demand for toll roads (rush hour) toll prices go up. During slow times (late at night, midday, etc.) prices go down. The same pricing model could be applied to power use. During peak times of power demand (around the supper hour for instance) the cost of power would be higher than lower times of consumption (late at night).
This would provide energy consumers with market incentives to conserve power in general, and put off power-hogging activities until off-peak times. Of course, power consumers would still have the option to use all the power they want during peak hours. They’ll just pay more for it.
The repurcussions of this sort of supply-and-demand pricing could be endless. New technologies could be developed (and many probably already exist) to time-delay things such as running the dish washer or the dryer or the water heater until times when energy costs are more reasonable. And besides, we already pay for a lot of things under this model of pricing. Cell phone minutes, for instance. Food. Gasoline.
There, of course, will always be nay-sayers who will see conspiracy to bilk consumers with this sort of pricing. But if we’re going to do anything about energy consumption, I would much rather see a market-driven solution such as this than government capping something like carbon emissions.

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  • http://Array sayanything-4625

    Um, no. I sell generators. My favorite customers are various County Power COOPS across the Midwest. They are owned and operated by the people of the counties they serve. We had a nice little talk about this at the POWERGEN show in beautiful Las Vegas. From what they tell me, if we did this, all our power would quickly be sold at congestion pricing to make money for the generators. I’ve also had experience with the congestion pricing for roads. When I lived in California, it seemed that they would never build more lanes in order to force people to use the congestion lane. Now, what these guy’s told me was that some of the most expensive and least efficient power stations are very old. I would support paying a little more to upgrade or rebuild these stations. I would increase capacity and make the system more efficient.

  • wowbagger the infinitely prolo

    Unless someone can explain the “what’s in it for me” to the D.C. bureaucrats with this idea, you’re going to get crap & tax. This is all about funding pet projects and lining pockets. You can bet your ass none of them believe they’re doing this for the environment.

  • sayanything-4625

    The repurcussions of this sort of supply-and-demand pricing could be endless.

    The biggest problem is that increasing supply is not easy or quick. Permitting for plants takes a long time with environmental impact studies, public hearings, ect. If you add in a “reward” for congestion and you can see where this is going to go.

  • http://www.utkusoft.com/blog Utkusoft

    good post thanks

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    This is nothing more than the leftist like Gore making money with their alarmist bullshit. It’s about redistribution of wealth and about controlling freedom and movement.

  • bill-tb

    Sucked you right in did they? They could care less about the planet, they want the taxes. Read the bill, if it isn’t the most asinine thing you ever read, it’s close. The global warming hoax is just the current Eagle’s eggs and their thin shells to draw you in on emotion.

    Ignorance, the tools of the leftist fools.

  • robert108

    It’s the same old same old, Rob. It’s the leftie agenda of controlling behavior by controlling supply. What we need is more energy production in this country, and building more roads to serve the needs of the drivers who already pay for them through gas taxes and other taxes.

  • robert108

    The Law of Supply, Demand and Price is generally misunderstood by lefties; they try to control the relationship between supply and demand, for social engineering purposes, but manipulating price by taxation and regulation, when in fact, price is the resultant of the relationship between supply and demand, with individual demand being the driver.
    If free Americans don’t like the traffic congestion enough to make different choices, then the market will respond; until then, free Americans are obviously choosing to accept the congestion as the price of freedom of movement.

  • http://www.moszer.net/ Moszer

    The repurcussions of this sort of supply-and-demand pricing could be endless. New technologies could be developed (and many probably already exist) to time-delay things such as running the dish washer or the dryer or the water heater until times when energy costs are more reasonable. And besides, we already pay for a lot of things under this model of pricing. Cell phone minutes, for instance. Food. Gasoline.

    Yes, these already exist. Quite simple actually from the technical side. As usual it’s the politics that are messy.

  • Brent

    Agree with Greg in AL. It sounds like a nice reform — allegedly a pro-market reform. But nothing can replace free market prices, profits and losses, and true competition. Nothing.

    If this proposal’s intentions are found worthy (and I think they are), then we must realize that only a real market will achieve those intentions.

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