Indian Veteran’s Group Now Withdraws Support For “Fighting Sioux” Nickname

Ken McCracken • August 30, 2007

Members of the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation’s Veterans’ Group board voted 3-2 Wednesday night to rescind their two-day-old support for UND’s Fighting Sioux nickname and logo.
The board voted unanimously to support the nickname during a meeting Monday, but board members later were inundated with calls from Standing Rock veterans and other tribe members expressing opposition to the nickname, said Ed Black Cloud, the board’s acting chairman.
“There were a lot of things we didn’t know about when we made that motion,” Black Cloud said, later adding, “we didn’t know about the treatment of Indian students (at UND).”
The group likely will take the matter up again after a scheduled tour of UND’s campus and meetings with UND and Ralph Engelstad Arena officials in September, Black Cloud said after Wednesday’s vote in McLaughlin, S.D.
“We still want to hear what they have to say, and we’ll decide what we decide,” Black Cloud said. “There are a lot of different things we have to talk about.”
The board’s initial vote supporting the nickname came during a visit by Sam Dupris, an enrolled member of the Cheyenne River (S.D.) Sioux Tribe and a decorated Korean War veteran who is touring North Dakota’s Sioux tribes as an envoy for REA.
During that meeting, Dupris described for board members a memorial wall honoring the state’s Sioux veterans that REA officials are considering building by one of the arena’s entrances.

The “there are a lot of things we didn’t know” line is pure bunk. This group made a decision of their own, and then the tribe came after them.
Because we all know that things like individual thought, disagreement and political dissent aren’t tolerated on North Dakota’s Indian reservations.

Tags: North Dakota News, Politics, Sports

http://Array Kade

I love UND Hockey…and the degree I received from there. I just think the name is repugnant…and those who seek its retention are repugnant as well.

Change it back to the flickertails. Or will that “soft” name make them a less macho team?
Kade

LIKWIDSHOE…you so “eloquently” stated

The Indians agree – let’s wipe their culture from ours. Let’s make these people truly forgotten. Let’s not refer to them in any way. It’s not worth the problems that acknowledging them brings.

You (like the rest of your redneck brethren) couldn’t wipe your ass with your lack of culture, therefore you need to appropriate symbols, such as the Fighting Sioux, because you can’t find value in yourselves. Try calling your favorite sports team the Fighting Biggots and show your own culture the honor you pretend you bestow on ours.

The Fighting Sioux is not honoring us…and to claim that it is unoffensive, or that people who take offense to it are “PC” or raging Liberals, is a simplistic and socially/mentally retarded argument.

You should actually consider attending college yourself and stop trying to pose as an educated person. Your lack of intelligence shows…and you lack the basic skills to hide your ignorance, such as tact or humility (AKA the ability to admit when you are wrong).
skh.pcola

um, “cavalry,” my friend. “Calvary” is where Jesus was crucified.
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

The Indians agree – let’s wipe their culture from ours. Let’s make these people truly forgotten. Let’s not refer to them in any way. It’s not worth the problems that acknowledging them brings.
http://ewebsmith.com/ ews48

Why would you want to name a sports team after the losers?

How about The Calvary Stallions? “The Calvary’s coming” instills a sense of impending rescue and victory. Calling an athlete a stallion gets the primordal juices flowing.

Wouldn’t a statue of a horse on its back legs with a cowboy hatted soldier on board, rifle in hand, just make you feel good all over?
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

Rob, I know exactly who leaned on them.
Bat One

Just what sort of a pompous hypocrite trumpets his indignant offense at the use of the term “Fighting Sioux” as insulting and disparaging, only to turn right around and label those who disagree as “redneck brethren” and “bigots”?

Incidentally, most persons who manage to actually earn a college degree are sufficiently proficient with the English language to know the the word “bigot” has but one, single letter “g”… even those who’ve graduated from UND.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

Kade,
by the way not all fighting sioux fans are red necks, some of them are left wingers like your self.

Kade: You should actually consider attending college yourself and stop trying to pose as an educated person. Your lack of intelligence shows…and you lack the basic skills to hide your ignorance, such as tact or humility (AKA the ability to admit when you are wrong).

That statement is just as mean spirited as you have accussed LIKWIDSHOE of being. I like how these people if we don’t agree with them call us bigoted and redneckish. So I guess we should just rule all the native Americans that are for the name as ilrelevant, Dumb, red neckish, bigoted as well.
http://www.bismarckmandanblog.com/ Clint

Remember Archie Fool Bear, respected tribal elder from Standing Rock? He dared support the UND position and found himself an instant target. Nobody in the tribes is safe if they dare deviate from the PC path.
Kade

Too weak??? Those bastards can peck out a person’s eye in about 20 seconds.
opinionated

everyone has a right to their own opinion..no sense in bashing those with different opinions than you, darlin’.
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

I was being sarcastic Kade.

That college education you like to trumpet didn’t prepare you for simple sarcasm.

The Sioux weren’t a fighting people? News to me. I thought they were supposed to be strong warriors, but I guess not given the attitude shown by those who claim to speak for them.

You’ve convinced me Kade. The school should change the name. It’s best not to reference any American Indian in any way. It’s not worth the problems.
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

Pretty much shows that his whole controversy is a political show.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

The name is never going to be Flickertails to weak of a name. I think we are getting ahead of ourselves.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Nobody in the tribe is safe from speaking out against the people who make $100,000/year lobbying for federal grants and entitlements and blame all the tribe’s problems on someone else.

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