In Order To Get A Health Care Bill Passed Democrats May Make Obamacare Look Like Romneycare

I’ve been saying for the last several days that while the Democrats’ plan for a government health care plan may be stuck in the mud they’ll probably come back with some new plan that, though it doesn’t contain a government health care plan in it, will still push more people onto existing government health care programs through mandates and price caps aimed at knee-capping the private health insurance industry.
James Pethokoukis reports on just that happening in Congress right now. And what’s scary is that what the Democrats want is exactly what Mitt Romney did to health care in Massachusetts.

[Analyst Daniel Clifton of Strategas Research] thinks President Obama may get the chance to sign an $800 billion (over 10 years) bill that would contain features such an individual mandate to buy health insurance, subsidies up to 300 percent of the poverty limit to purchase a regulated plan through a health insurance “exchange”, and an expansion of Medicaid.
Obama might even get his commission that would try to determine what Medicare pays doctors and hospitals — now that the Congressional Budget Office has determined it would pretty much be powerless.
As one lobbyist put it: “I would see this as mostly a symbolic victory (for Republicans), as the Dems can get most of what they want without calling it a public option. Frankly. it’s pretty close to the Massachusetts model.”
Ah yes, the Massachusetts model. The state passed sweeping reform in 2006 under Governor Mitt Romney. What would a similar approach mean for America?
Well, there would be a lot fewer uninsured people. Massachusetts has halved the number of people without health insurance, with just 2.6 percent not currently covered.
But the reform has been far less successful bringing down costs. For starters, original cost estimates for Commonwealth Care projected the program would cost $400 million in 2008 and $725 million in 2009. The actual numbers were $628 million in 2008 and $869 billion for this year (with some costs estimates of $1 billion or more).
Moreover, health insurance premium costs continue to rise at a rapid clip of 9.4 percent a year, compared with 7.7 percent for the United States on average. As the Urban Institute found: “Health spending in Massachusetts is higher than the United States on average and is growing at a faster rate. Furthermore, health insurance premiums are growing even faster than health care costs in the state.”

What amazes me is that there are still “conservatives” out there who think that Mitt Romney is a limited government leader who would make a good President. In light of what Romney did to health care in his home state, he is clearly not a conservative and is not fit to be at the head of any limited government movement.
But this move by Democrats is a real threat. Because there are a lot of Romney-style, not-so-conservative Republicans in Congress right now who would be more than happy to accept a “compromise” and a symbolic victory like this from Democrats. They get to claim that they killed government health care, but we all get stuck with more government mandates on health insurance that is going to make that insurance more expensive, both in terms of premiums paid and taxes paid, and drive more of us on to government health care.
Republicans need to get a clear message from their conservative constituents: No compromise on health care. Unless we’re talking about a bill that makes the government less involved with the health care industry, none of them have any business voting for it.

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  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Is the “Romneycare” as in the program which Mitt Romney himself has acknowledged was too unwieldy, too expensive, and too unworkable? That the “Romneycare” you’re talking about?

    Yes, I believe that is the Romneycare they are referring to. But it is kinda funny but here is the list of Republican Senators that voted to “fix” medicare by expanding it by $600B to cover prescription drugs:

    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Allard (R-CO), Yea
    Allen (R-VA), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Brownback (R-KS), Yea
    Bunning (R-KY), Yea
    Burns (R-MT), Yea
    Campbell (R-CO), Yea
    Chafee (R-RI), Nay
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Coleman (R-MN), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Craig (R-ID), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    DeWine (R-OH), Yea
    Dole (R-NC), Yea
    Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
    Frist (R-TN), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Santorum (R-PA), Yea
    Sessions (R-AL), Yea
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Smith (R-OR), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Talent (R-MO), Yea
    Thomas (R-WY), Yea
    Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
    Warner (R-VA), Yea

  • bill-tb

    So what is the rush to do something that a major majority says doesn’t need fixing.

    I would bet tort reform and getting the government out of the insurance business would help more than anything else.

    It’s all about power to run every aspect of your life, by rationing healthcare. Why else would anyone want to destroy the world’s best healthcare system?

    Are Obama voters this dumb?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    He might even end up on a coin.

    At the rate Obama is borrowing and spending we won’t be bothering with coins.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    I’m afraid republicans have already lost this one by finally admitting that reform is needed.

    We’ll see a government option soon.

    If reform doesn’t deliver positive results it will be because republicans stopped dems from making more significant changes.

    In the end this will be a huge win for Obama. He might even end up on a coin.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Health savings accounts.

    The problems is people not spending their own money.

  • rog

    plug nickel no doubt.

  • Geoguy

    And the disasterous Massachusetts model is going down in fiscal flames as we speak.
    The Blue Dogs are nothing but cover for the Libs, and this may seem like a two-fer for them, getting a dig into the Republican front-leader Romney while covering their lying asses.

  • Mark

    In the end this will be a huge win for Obama. He might even end up on a coin.

    Maybe in Kenya!

  • Geoguy

    “In the end this will be a huge win for Obama. He might even end up on a coin.”
    Yeah, a plug nickel.

  • Bat One

    Is the “Romneycare” as in the program which Mitt Romney himself has acknowledged was too unwieldy, too expensive, and too unworkable? That the “Romneycare” you’re talking about?

  • Bat One

    Where Obama’s vision of government health care is losing support, rapidly, is among seniors, and baby-boomers about to become “seasoned citizens.” They listen to Democrats’ talk about saving $300 to $600 billion from Medicare, and they simply don’t believe that can be done without adversely effecting the quality of care.

    There is not one government entitlement program that has ever cost only what its promoters said it would or accomplished all that they claimed it could. Not one!

    Government “option” or no, you cannot increase demand substantially for a product or service, and expect to reduce costs without an equally substantial increase in supply. It really is just that simple… even if those on the Left are too cognitively congested to understand.

  • Neiman

    I’m afraid republicans have already lost this one by finally admitting that reform is needed.

    Dino is right! Once they caved in to the idea that national health care reform was critical, they lost half the battle. Now they are wedded to some type of reform!

    Is the “Romneycare” as in the program which Mitt Romney himself has acknowledged was too unwieldy, too expensive, and too unworkable? That the “Romneycare” you’re talking about?

    Yes, I have heard nothing but horror stories about Romneycare!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    The best illustration of an expensive, failed government program would be the trillions we spent on defense only to have some guys with boxcutters manage to penetrate the defense system.

    Ok, so who wants to scrap the defense dept and save 30 cents of every tax dollar?

  • conundrum

    any comprhensive, republican, conservative plan out there that one can research, compare or is it just alot of bitching?

  • 2Hotel9

    “In Order To Get A Health Care Bill Passed Democrats May Make Obamacare Look Like Romneycare” Which will sink their socialist healthcare plan faster than anything else.

  • J.L.

    “Illustration of a failed government program would be the trillions spent on defense only to have some guys with boxcutters…..” At the time of 9-11 the last line of defense, the airport screeners, were not government employees. And to have only two attacks on our soil since 1941 speaks very highly of our military, no matter how much Libs try and tear it down.

  • 2Hotel9

    Yea, leftards always close their eyes and whistle as they slink past that rather large fact. And had Billie Jeff smacked terrorists into the ground in ’93-’95 none of it would ever have happened.

  • conundrum

    Whistler: HSA do look like a nice alternative for the lower middle class and up. In that it is tied into the stock market anyone out there that has an hsa and how did the plunge affect it.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    The best illustration of an expensive, failed government program would be the trillions we spent on defense only to have some guys with boxcutters manage to penetrate the defense system.

    Was 9-11 a failure of the defense department, the airport screeners, the CIA, or the FBI? What about INS who allowed them to overstay their student visas?

    It is kinda funny, but the defense department and CIA are legally forbidden from spying on or acting against domestic threats. So in actuality, once the 9-11 terrorists are on US soil, it is an FBI/INS/police issue, not a defense department issue anyway.

    But you wanted to somehow use 9-11 as an indictment of the DoD because it makes some rhetorical point of how DoD money could be better spent feeding the homeless or on healthcare or whatever else. Please finish your bullshit argument that is predicated on a false assumption.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    When the national party platform included “reforming” healthcare back in the early 2000′s, all kinds of stuff was tried. Romney was no more guilty of healthcare mistakes than anyone in either house that voted for Medicare drug expansion.

    Rob wants to use Mass’s healthcare system as an indictment of Romney, but the only reason that almost the entire party isn’t guilty of the same type of mistake is that most of the contenders for the GOP nomination have not tried to “reform” healthcare like our wonderful GOP leaders in the early half of the decade did. It is simply convenience that Palin or Huck were never put in a position where they had to do something, so consequently they have no track record on healthcare that can be used to malign them like Romney does in your eyes.

    50 states are incubators and we allow each to make their own mistakes and the nation as a whole to learn from them. I don’t hear a lot of ideas coming from the GOP. Romney’s hand was forced by voters and the legislature in MA, and he had to do something. I give him credit for action, as opposed to sitting back and doing nothing like most of the other contenders have done.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    I don’t give him credit for being right in his actions, but it takes leadership to make a mistake through action as opposed to the safe route of allowing the status quo to rule things.

    He appears to have learned his lesson on healthcare and consequently has “experience” on the issue unlike Palin. At least he has actually tried reforming healthcare as opposed to Palin that has zero leadership or experience on the issue.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Yes, we know. If only there was no societal organization and structure, everything would run smoothly.

    All businesses should have no one in charge, no one in control and no one setting the rules. Families too. Just let everything run itself. That always works.

    Do you see how ridiculous that would be?

  • jimmypop

    I’m afraid republicans have already lost this one by finally admitting that reform is needed.

    bush already did. the problem is, as always, the government being involved in the first place. bush knew it.

  • 2Hotel9

    Justin, what he did completely failed, and his new idea is to do the same thing on a national scale. How is that “learning” from his mistake?

    And more lies and AIDS infected shit spew from dinothefakehomo.

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