In Order To Blame Bush, Liberals Engage In Historical Revisionism On Mortgages

In this post-housing collapse world a lot of people in the media have been scrambling to point fingers at President Bush and his “laissez-faire,” deregulation approach to housing issues. As laughable as it is for anyone to call Bush a proponent of limited government in housing, this is the line liberals have come up with to distract from the big-government meddling in the housing market that actually caused the collapse.

The paper of record [New York Times] blames the “mortgage bonfire” on President Bush and his “laissez-faire” housing policies. But to get there, the Times completely ignored history prior to 2002.
That’s when Bush gave a speech in Atlanta and announced a goal to increase minority homeowners by 5.5 million. According to the Times, this was the event that started the mortgage meltdown.
“He pushed hard to expand homeownership, especially among minorities,” its lengthy front-page piece asserts. “But his housing policies encouraged lax lending standards.”
If the Times had said the same thing about Bush’s predecessor, its story might have a kernel of truth to it.
Seeking to lock in minority voters for Democrats, Bill Clinton in 1993 set a national homeownership goal of 55% for blacks, a major increase from existing levels.
To achieve it, he tasked his regulators to lead an anti-redlining crusade against the banking industry that included revising Community Reinvestment Act regulations to pressure banks to adopt “flexible” lending standards for low-income borrowers.
Clinton also pressured Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy not just subprime loans, but also subprime securities, to meet “affirmative action” lending quotas.
These actions — which were far more concrete than anything Bush did to encourage minority homeownership — were never cited in the Times’ nearly 5,000-word piece.

I don’t think there’s any doubt that many of our political leaders tried to manufacture home ownership among people who couldn’t really afford homes. They pressured lenders into making loans to people they wouldn’t have normally (see: Clinton’s HUD secretary Andrew Cuomo talking in favor of affirmative action for home loans and Obama’s adviser Austan Goolsbee saying favorable things about subprime loans).
Essentially, these politicians made too much credit available to people who really didn’t earn it. Those people used that credit to buy homes they couldn’t afford, and once the house of cards had been stacked high enough it collapsed.
It’s a simple failure of big-government, liberal policies.
What astounds me is how so many people seem to think that owning a home is a cause of prosperity rather than a symptom of it. People aren’t successful because they own their own homes. They own their own homes because they’re successful.

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  • http://Array robert108

    They were “forced” to sign loan papers for loans they couldn’t afford? Ridiculous. It was govt mandated lowering of standards, period.

  • Dino

    Alabama,

    If you would have read the whole article you would have read why F&F went unregulated. Bush’s people stopped it, not the dems.

    This mess belongs to republicans.

  • robert108

    At this point, all we can do is learn from our mistakes and NEVER let this happen again.

    Exactly! No more trying to use the eeconomy for social engineering purposes.

  • 2Hotel9

    I still have Pineland script and a bunch of handwritten course instruction from an NCO who taught medical. Ah, those heady days, struggling to liberate the forests of NC!

  • 2Hotel9

    So, dinothefakehomo finally admits that CRA is to blame. Remeber, dinothefakehomo, CRA was pushed by the White House, Jimmah Cahter’s White House, and it was concieved by LBJ’s White House, and it was massively enhanced by Willie Jeff’s White House. Good catch, dinothefakehomo!

  • 2Hotel9

    And now it will toddle through and link a pile of op-ed crap that proves nothing about anything.

  • Dino

    The loans that went bad were almost entirely NOT loans made for CRA purposes. I’d post the links but am mobile.

    The blame rests firmly with the republicans in charge and those who ignored the warnings. Even Greenspan has admitted he was wrong.

    You people will NEVER remove the stain of blame from bush and the republicans no matter how hard you try to spin it.

  • jimmypop

    They ALLOWED them to.

    and EVERYONE has the right to be stupid. the problem starts when our leaders start handing them my money after they
    f’ed up. this whole ting i going to happen again because nobody really suffered.

  • Lance

    How do we explain it’s not the “redlined” mortgages that are failing? Maybe some greedy folks bought homes way more than they can afford no matter what the income bracket they were in and were encouraged to do so by greedy mortgage brokers?

    I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but there are no foreclosed houses in the affluent areas around me (Chicago). If you want a cheap foreclosed house around Chicago, you have to go to a low income neighborhood.

    There are those that are homeowners and there are those that are renters. You put 20% down on the house that you are buying. That’s the way it has always worked until recently, and look at the result.

  • sayanything-4625

    There is enough blame to go around for everyone, Carter, Clinton, Bush, Congress (both Republican and Democrats), banks, greedy people, stupid people, smart people, well you get my drift. At this point, all we can do is learn from our mistakes and NEVER let this happen again.

  • robert108

    dino: No matter how many times you lie, the truth remains the same; buying votes with leftie pirate economics destroys the market. Period. In order to have real growth, you have to create real value. Social engineering is a phony promise. It doesn’t work. We are now paying the bill for thirty years of leftie pirate economics.

  • jkpv

    November 12, 1999, President Bill Clinton signed into law the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. One of the effects of the repeal is it allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. Economists have criticized the action.

  • Mickey

    Anyone who signs a $500,000 home loan should know better than accepting an ARM. If you can afford a $500,000 loan you should have the smarts to go with that size loan. (unless you are an idiot like dino).

    Libs, stick with the two bedroom apartments you grew up in. Leave the American dream for the white collar Republicans.

  • Dino

    I am mobile and can’t make long posts due to viruses at this site.

    I have posted factual articles, studies and statements from Bernanke himself saying CRA NOT AT FAULT. People here simply ignore.

    Read the WHOLE NYT article and it clearly shows that the damage was done while REPUBLICANS ran the show.

    Be glad I am at a disadvantage on the mobile device or I could BURY you in proof.

  • 2Hotel9

    Rob, any virusi it is catching are most likely coming from the same places it is linking all those comical op-ed pieces it claims prove that W is the sole cause of all evil in the world. Just sayin’!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning — you know…
    Ft. Story – Amphib Recon Course
    Los Alamitos – 6th Army ITASS
    Ft. Knox – ROTC
    Uwharrie national forest – Robin Sage

    Plus numerous Camps, Bases and Undisclosed Locations, both Stateside and OCONUS through the years…

    Fun times — yeah

  • sayanything-4625

    I give up! There is no as blind than they that can’t see!

  • sayanything-4625

    Fort Sill sucks but not as much as Fort Polk! Dismounts in the open, Fire TRP4!

  • sayanything-4625

    Zig,

    Rhey are fun now, in my memory, in real life, not so much!

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Thanks for the anecdotal evidence, but I perfer to deal with actual facts.

    Where are the anecdotes? Or do you even know what that means?

  • Dino

    Notice that the three names attached to the bill repealing Glass-Steagell are all REPUBLICANS.

    They ran Congress then, remember? Just like they did before the last Depression.

    The actions that led to our present mess were ALL associated with a conservatism-based economic agenda. Unless you’d like to try and convince me it was a liberal one.

    LOL

    That’s why conservatism is on life support if not dead.

  • 2Hotel9

    I survived Robin Sage! And didn’t even get a stinkin’ tshirt!

  • sayanything-4625

    No matter what you do in Pineland the next class will find that it has all gone for naught and the insurgents are back!

    *Note, I never went to Robin Sage. That was for the Special Forces canidates. I was a just a grunt.

  • sayanything-4625

    The Brad was the bomb. It beat walking! It could carry a ton of pogey bait where my back couldn’t! Plus, it had a ton a fire power!

  • 2Hotel9

    And there is that lie again. Keep repeating it, dinothefakehomo, you might convince yourself.

  • Dino

    Totally wrong alabama guy.

  • Mickey

    “He pushed hard to expand homeownership, especially among minorities,” its lengthy front-page piece asserts. “But his housing policies encouraged lax lending standards.”

    So the NY Times is blaming the poor and uneducated for creating the financial housing bust? OMG, did the Times get dinos approval for this?

    lol, libs

  • 2Hotel9

    I just do it in order to heap derision on them!

    Been thinking of talking Rob into adding a Shovel; type, Derision Heaping. Unit of issue, 1ea to the list of sayanything gear, maybe in a nice florescent pink camo motif, so the ladies will find it attractive as they use it to clear snow from around our barbecue grills!(homage to Mrs Walter Williams!)

  • 2Hotel9

    Now it is throwing that bullshit about “virusi” at SAB! Too funny. The only virus I have ever gotten through SAB is from links leftards throw for the purpose of spreading virusi.

    Greg, USA FA, 13B. ’79 through ’85. Cross trained in several MOSs and did a lot of the NCO Professional Development and ANOC Courses. And yes, Ft Sill sucked/s!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Oh, by way, it really shouldn’t be concerned about viruses it contracted online.

    It should be really concerned about viruses it contracted in its ass.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Bama,

    While the 25 mike-mike is always fun to have around, I heard-tell that the aluminum armor used in the modern AFV’s (versus the steel used in the old half-tracks) amplified the destructive effects of shaped charges. I believe there was a film based on that problem, starring the Kelsy Grammar as a contracts -procurement general and and Carey Elwes (spelling?) as the subordinate officer who fell on his sword trying to blow the whistle.

    Not sure if that was ever fixed.

    On an interesting note, I did manage to get a gander at the M-1 as it was still in trials and a couple MBT-70 variants parked as static displays. Guess I’m revealing some salt hey?

  • 2Hotel9

    I liked Polk! Did an intra-Division Long Range Patrol Course there, spent the whole 6 weeks out in the pines. Was sorry to hear it was getting reduced so much under the base closures of the ’90s, though a couple of friends tell me that LANG ain’t let it go all to wrack&ruin!

  • Dino

    The defaults are ocurring across all income levels. Where I live the 500K areas are particularly hard hit.

    The flaw in you argument is what the motivation was. It wasn’t the government FORCING banks to loan, it was the banks in bed with Wall Street who willingly offered them using lax standards pushed by the White House.

    No one FORCED banks to do anything. They ALLOWED them to. Huge distinction.

    And the blame rests with greedbag republicans who were in charge deregulating and profiting from the fraud.

  • Dino

    Still trying to convince people that, despite total control of government, their policies of deregulation and their incompetent mismanagement of the economy, the meltdown wasn’t the republicans’ fault?

    Good luck with that.

    Perhaps you need to reread the NYT piece and see how bush’s own econ advisors were warning of the coming disaster.

    I’d post the quotes myself but am using a mobile since this site gives viruses to PCs.

  • sayanything-4625

    You spent almost as much time in the track park as you did the track park

    That should read..

    You spent almost as much time in the track park as you did in the field.

  • left wing conspiracy

    How do we explain it’s not the “redlined” mortgages that are failing? Maybe some greedy folks bought homes way more than they can afford no matter what the income bracket they were in and were encouraged to do so by greedy mortgage brokers?

  • Hungry Bear

    Here are some highlights from a Wall Street Journal article that explains how the Congressional Hispanic Caucus worked with liberal interest groups and subprime lenders to put more Hispanics into risky loans:

    In U.S. counties where Hispanics account for more than 25% of the population, banks have taken back 6.7 homes per 1,000 residents since Jan. 1, 2006, compared with 4.6 per 1,000 residents in all counties, according to a Journal analysis of U.S. Census and RealtyTrac data.

    …a close look at the network of organizations pushing for increased mortgage lending reveals a more complicated picture. Subprime-industry executives were advisers to the Hogar housing initiative, and bankrolled more than $2 million of its research. Lawmakers and advocacy groups pushed hard for the easy credit that fueled the subprime phenomenon among Latinos. Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, who received donations from the lending industry and saw their constituents moving into new homes, pushed for eased lending standards, which led to problems.

    The Congressional Hispanic Caucus created Hogar in 2003 to work with industry and community groups to increase mortgage lending to Latinos. At that time, the national Latino homeownership rate was 47%, compared with 68% for the overall population. Hogar called the figure “alarming,” and said a concerted effort was required to ensure that “by the end of the decade Latinos will share equally in the American Dream of homeownership.”

    Hogar’s backers included many companies that ran into trouble in mortgage markets: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both now under federal control; Countrywide Financial Corp., sold last year to Bank of America Corp.; Washington Mutual Inc., taken over by the government and sold to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; and New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest Mortgage Corp., both now defunct.

    Hogar’s ties to the subprime industry were substantial. A Washington Mutual vice president served as chairman of its advisory committee. Companies that donated $150,000 a year got the right to place a research fellow who would conduct Hogar’s studies, which were used by industry lobbyists. For donations of $100,000 a year, Hogar offered to provide news releases from the Hispanic Caucus promoting a lender’s commercial products for the Latino market, according to the group’s literature.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111072368352309.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_page_one

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    …I don’t know why I even try to engage with people like D*no. … I suspect that (he) just likes to rabble rouse and cause trouble.

    Now you’re catching on.

    This troll / attention-whore is not here to engender reasoned debate. It writes inflammatory stuff and takes outrageous positions simply to stir normal folks up.

    It might take a little while, but I think sooner or later folks will realize that his intent here is simply to yank your chain and push your buttons. When you respond, you’re just acting as a bull in front of a red cape. It revels in attention, even if it is negative attention. Something very infantile and mentally-unbalanced is at work here.

    Solution: Ignore it.

    It is not worthy of your time or energy.

  • 2Hotel9

    Notice, Greg, that dinothefakehomo has no proof, only history revision. Like all leftards it just keeps screechimng gthe same lie, over&over&over&over.

  • 2Hotel9

    Actually, dinothefakehomo, the facts point in the opposite direction of your claim. Don’t let that stop you from revising history, Goebbels and Stalin told you to do it, so do it you will.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Robin Sage was fun (if you discount shivering in the cold like a dog pissn razor blades)…

    Intro’d ourselves to the Q-course students by catching them in an L-shaped ambush and later they took over our ‘instruction. ‘

    My nom de guerre was Kaptitain Ivor Snitcherdickoff of the Free Pineland Partizans — (Dog doo-doo! (hak! sput!) * )

    * Partizan salute and motto.

  • sayanything-4625

    Dino,

    One article from the New York Times is not proof. If that is your level of “proof” then we will just have to agree to disagree. Here is an article were Bernanke asked congress for more regulatory powers to stop the collapse of the big banks. Notice that it is 10 July 2008. Congress did not give him that power and the whole system collapsed.

    http://www.nysun.com/business/bernanke-paulson-to-brief-congress-on-financial/81614/

    MY POINT is that there is plenty of blame. Congress is the regulatory agency in our system. This is laid out Article I, Section. 8 of the US Constitution. So, to put it bluntly, Congress (Democrat in the case sited above) failed to properly regulate Freddie May and Fannie Mac an construct created by Congress and that lead to the problems we have today. Say whatever you want to say, to blame this problem on Bush and to leave out the congress is rank partisanship. But you don’t care about that do you? You just want to stir up trouble.

  • robert108

    Forcing businesses to use bad business practices to meet social quotas always results in disaster. This disaster has been building since Carter.

  • 2Hotel9

    Hell, the Brad was still a thang of the future(near future) when I visited Ft Puke.

    Did my gun time on 8in M110 SP, the gang with the biggest bang, and MLRS was being fazed in to replace everything bigger than 155mm. Sad. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could reach out and touch someone like a battery of 8in firing HE set for 10-25 meter airburst. Steel on the target, for yer ass!

  • sayanything-4625

    Oh, the Brad had its problems, it is a maintenance nightmare. You spent almost as much time in the track park as you did the track park. It was a big improvement on the M-113. They have the same armor, aluminum, and I liked the 25mm and the two tow’s the Brad carried. It does have a high profile. The M-1 is “shorter” than the Brad. It would roll over on a dime. Roll over drills were constant. It still was a blast. It was fast, had a ton of fire power and carried all of my pogey bait. It was nice to have three tubes of Skoal in the field instead of a half tube that I had to ration. As for the armor, it was thicker that the blouse I had before we went Mech so there is that!

  • sayanything-4625

    I guess it was the OPFOR that made Polk so bad. JRTC just plain sucked! The Bradley was so hot that it would fry your skin, the only fun I had was was wiping out a platoon of OPFOR during on the last day during their assault of our postion. Caught them in the open with the 25mm and raked them over the coals! After that the OC killed us with the god gun and I got to set on top of the turret and watch the rest of the fun while taking a big dip of Skoal. Good times!

  • Hawk

    Thanks for the anecdotal evidence, but I perfer to deal with actual facts.

  • sayanything-4625

    2Hotel, I know, I’ve been reading this blog for years and I don’t know why I even try to engage with people like Dino. If he can’t see that this is not a Bush/Republican issue and that blame can fairly be passed out to all parties involved then he is not even a troll but rather a “useful idiot” in the classic sense of the word. I suspect that Dino just likes to rabble rouse and cause trouble.

  • sayanything-4625

    2Hotel,

    What branch of the Military were you in? I was in the Army and was a 11B and a 91B (back when that was a medic and not whatever it is today).

  • sayanything-4625

    HOW am I wrong, I offer you facts you just naysay anything you don’t like. Why do you give Congress a pass, because they are Democrats?

  • sayanything-4625

    Dino,

    Actually the way it works in the US is that Congress is in charge of regulating things so I don’t know how Bush is to blame, Congress could have stopped the process at any time. It remind me of how we blame high deficits on Bush when it is Congress is in charge of setting spending levels. Anyway, as I said in my previous post, there is plenty of blame. Its time to move on and learn from our mistakes.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Translated Hawk: I don’t care what the facts are, I’ll go with my preconceived notions.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Perhaps you need to reread the NYT piece and see how bush’s own econ advisors were warning of the coming disaster.

    I think, Dino, that if you read my post a little more carefully you’d see that I’m hardly exonerating Bush from blame in the housing crisis. Bush was as wrong to use government power to try and increase home ownership among people who really couldn’t afford to own homes as Clinton was, and those that came before them.

    The point here is that big-government pressure on lenders to give loans to people who shouldn’t have gotten them caused the housing collapse.

    There really is no denying this.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I am mobile and can’t make long posts due to viruses at this site.

    Even if SAB were giving you a virus, and it isn’t, the length of your comments would have nothing to do with it.

    And by the way, 10,000 or so other individuals read posts hear on a daily basis (we’re down quite a bit post-election and post-holiday) and they’re not having any problems.

    So either tens of thousands of people who visit here don’t know they’re getting a virus, or you’re a retard.

    I’m guessing the latter.

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