In Praise of Scrooge

Actor Jim Carrey as Ebenezer Scrooge

Yeah, I know Christmas is now over. But this is worth it anyway.

Harvard economics professor Greg Mankiw refers to this wise homage to the penurious by fellow economist Steve Landburg

Scrooge has been called ungenerous. I say that’s a bum rap. What could be more generous than keeping your lamps unlit and your plate unfilled, leaving more fuel for others to burn and more food for others to eat…

Dickens tells us that the Lord Mayor, in the stronghold of the mighty Mansion House, gave orders to his 50 cooks and butlers to keep Christmas as a Lord Mayor’s household should—presumably for a houseful of guests who lavishly praised his generosity. The bricks, mortar, and labor that built the Mansion House might otherwise have built housing for hundreds; Scrooge, by living in three sparse rooms, deprived no man of a home….

In this whole world, there is nobody more generous than the miser—the man who could deplete the world’s resources but chooses not to. The only difference between miserliness and philanthropy is that the philanthropist serves a favored few while the miser spreads his largess far and wide.

…If you earn a dollar and refuse to spend a dollar, the rest of the world is one dollar richer—because you produced a dollar’s worth of goods and didn’t consume them…

Who exactly gets those goods? That depends on how you save. Put a dollar in the bank and you’ll bid down the interest rate by just enough so someone somewhere can afford an extra dollar’s worth of vacation or home improvement. Put a dollar in your mattress and (by effectively reducing the money supply) you’ll drive down prices by just enough so someone somewhere can have an extra dollar’s worth of coffee with his dinner…

Saving is philanthropy, and—because this is both the Christmas season and the season of tax reform—it’s worth mentioning that the tax system should recognize as much. If there’s a tax deduction for charitable giving, there should be a tax deduction for saving. What you earn and don’t spend is your contribution to the world, and it’s equally a contribution whether you give it away or squirrel it away.

Be sure to read the whole thing. God bless us, every one!

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  • kevindf

    You can’t spend your way to prosperity.

  • Bat One

    There’s a profound lesson about markets (and our own ignorance!) in what Steve Landsburg has written.

    • waterjoe

      But the point of the story is that, in the end, markets do not matter.

      Landsburg, by the way, completely misses that Dickens never criticizes Scrooge for his miserly actions. He criticizes Scrooge’s motives.

      • Bat One

        Dickens was a story teller, not an economist.

        • waterjoe

          Which is why Landsburg’s column is ridiculous.

          • Bat One

            Ridiculous? Really? Let’s see. Taking money (not wealth – there’s a difference!) out of circulation increases the value of the remaining currency? Not ridiculous at all. Any economist from Adam Smith to Lord Keynes, from Milton Friedman to Ben Bernanke will tell you that’s correct. Fact is, Bernanke, the country’s leading academic expert on the Great Depression is using the exact opposite tactic to try, pointlessly, to buoy the economy.

            And certainly an increased pool of savings reduces interest rates, making more investment capital available for economic growth and more jobs. Bernanke and Friedman again.

            And as for the miserly use of resources, every conservation program, from Teddy Roosevelt’s National Forests and Wildlife Preserves to spotted owls, snail darters, and baby harp seals, is based on the very same idea. So are modern farming/land management techniques, many learned, painfully, from the Dust Bowl days.

            So, please, explain what part of Landsburg’s column you regard as ridiculous.

  • Guest

    By that logic, someone burning all his cash is a great hero too.

    • HG

      The gov’t already burns through more money than they confiscate.

      • Guest

        Thanks for posting another irrelevant conservative talking point, HorridGas! We will be greeted as liberators. Derp.

        • Bat One

          Only someone too cognitively dysfunctional to comprehend economics and finance, and too stupid to realize his disability would regard what HG posted as “irrelevant.”

          • Guest

            Says the person who thinks burning money and giving it to a homeless person to buy a pair of socks are both good.

          • Bat One

            Don’t flatter yourself, kid. You’re nowhere near bright enough to know what I think. And we both know it.

          • Guest

            You’re right, even the best psychiatrist would never be able to penetrate your thick, demented mind.

          • guest

            “demented mind”

          • Guest

            Your Christmas card for the year is very nice. Please forward next years card directly to your trash bin.

          • guest

            I’m so glad you appreciate the mongoloids, even if he always told you to STFU!!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You’re stalking someone completely different. But continue to prove what an idiot you are.

          • guest

            Everyone also laughs at your mongoloid parents. Why don’t you at least buy her a decent dress so she doesn’t look as dumpy as she does?

          • Guest

            LOL @ Batsh*t insane one. YOU’RE the one who argued such destruction of wealth was an economically good thing! Only someone so cognitively dysfunctional as you wouldn’t be able to consistently apply his reasoning.

          • HG

            Guest, you’re the one who argued burning money (“destruction of wealth”) is a good thing. Don’t go putting words in other peoples mouths. The article Bat posted refers to saving money as a good thing, not burning it.
            But if you want to talk “destruction of wealth”, look no further that the President’s policies.

          • Guest

            LOL @ HorridGas, who can’t even understand the profoundly retarded ramblings of his cohorts. He has to believe burning money is good, as hiding it under a bed is economically indistinguishable from burning it since both remove money from the market and both drive prices down, after all. LOL @ your delusion that Obama is destroying wealth as well, as the economy is doing much better now than when he inherited it in 2008, HorridGas! Keep living the dream though, HorridGas, since reality obviously doesn’t support your idiotic positions.

          • HG

            Hanni, you think hiding money under a pillow is the same as burning it? Now that’s some serious self-delusion, H.

          • Guest

            HorridGas, if you didn’t realize it my point all along is that they iare not, but under this post’s logic it accomplishes the ame task. Additionally, burning money would be even better than hiding it under his logic since it removes money from the economy and drives prices down, just like hiding money in the sofa. Since you apparently don’t understand my point or the reasoning in this post, it’s clear that HorridGas has a serious reading comprehension problem

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You’re paranoia has gotten a hold of your better judgement, again. You must learn to realize that not every person on SAB is as moronic as most of the conservatives, and those who offer logical translations to the illogical idiocy, that are so prevalent on SAB, is not only said by me.

          • HG

            Hanni, I’m no matchmaker, but if you aren’t Guest, you two just might be perfect for each other. I’ve never read two more synchronized minds on the same site, much less the same thread. And here I thought your foolishness was unmatched.

          • Bat One

            HG, Your generosity in using the word “minds” with regard to Hanni and “Guest” should not be overlooked. Christmas is truly a time of giving.

          • HG

            tis the season.

          • Guest

            tis the season for a clear view of HorridGas’s mental disability. First he attacks a point that roads and defense are too small a portion of the federal budget to support a claim that they are not burning money than, after losing that argument, HorridGas argues he never claimed the government was ever burning money. Thanks for your admission that your claim was either wrong or irrelevant, HorridGas!

          • Guest

            LOL @ Batsh*t Insane One. HG now contends his post was irrelevant, you two morons can’t even agree on your stupidity!!!

          • LeonardB

            Rob’s pet troll is getting up earlier and earlier for his attention fix. It must be very, very lonely to be you.

          • Guest

            LOL, Rob’s not even posting, LeonardButtmunch. You’ve become quite a pet a troll for me though!

          • LeonardB

            LOL, No one said Rob was posting, You must be very lonely because no one likes you, everyone just laughs at you.

          • Guest

            LOL @ LeonardButtmunch who accuses of someone for being another’s pet troll when that person isn’t even posting. You must be very lonely to sit online posting insults all day, everyone just pisses in your face so it’s understandable why an anonymous blog is your only reprieve.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Of course you aren’t used to logical opinions from others, or aware that they exist in great number. That’s the consequence of limiting yourself to a right wing cocoon.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It’s a logical conclusion based on the argument Bat made. That’s the unfortunate consequence when self congratulatory conservatives try to make an argument, people see it for what it is, not what conservatives believe it to be.

          • Bat One

            If you can’t even manage a modest little insult without resorting to childish name-calling you’re clearly in no position to compare reasoning capabilities.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It was irrelevant to the point Guest had made. Only someone who is more interested in patting himself on the back would try to defend HG’s irrelevant comment.

          • HG

            H, your adolescence is showing. I’d explain my comment further but it is just so fun watching you two idiots avoiding the obvious. You really can’t be this stupid… well, you’ve proven otherwise too many times for that to be true.

          • Guest

            HorridGas can’t explain his ignorant comment so he he resorts to an explanation of why he can’t proffer an explanation.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “H, your adolescence is showing.”

            10X!

        • HG

          Talking point or no, it’s reality. Denying the truth because a conservative tells it is dishonest. Concealing the truth from yourself is deceit. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not good at anything.

          • Guest

            Yes, defending the country and building roads is tantamount to burning money. You’re so smart, HorridGas! Thanks for making conservatives look so reasonable.

          • HG

            Defense and roads only account for 28% of federal spending. If that is all gov’t spent there would be an enormous budget surplus. You really think that pathetic attempt to represent gov’t spending made you look witty?

          • Guest

            No, you should assume that list is exclusive, HorridGas. Perhaps I should’ve realized you’re reasoning skills are so poor and consequently provided an exhaustive list of all government expenditures, though. So my bad. http://thomas.loc.gov/home/approp/app12.html

            In any event, twenty-eight percent is still much higher than than the 0% you’ve been able to pinpoint as equal to burning money, HorridGas. It’s funny to watch you ridicule me for identifying non-waste while you’ve wholly failed to do that yourself and again proving your intellectual bankruptcy, HorridGas!

          • HG

            Idiot-boy. I see the idiom was lost on you. “Burning through money” is the same as saying the gov’t spends more than it confiscates. What part of over-spending are you having trouble processing?

          • Guest

            Thanks for not being able to identify anything as waste and constructively admitting your position is wholly without merit, HorridGas!

          • HG

            You still don’t know what I said. After all that, you still think I’m talking just about wasteful spending.
            By the way, if you’re not another one of Hannitized’s sock puppets, you’re missing one hell of an opportunity.

          • Guest

            Thanks for not being able to identify anything as waste and constructively admitting your position is wholly without merit again, HorridGas! Keep trying to change the subject though; you replied to a comment saying that by his logic that burning money was good with a comment about the government burning money. Of course you would want to change the subject though, since you can’t find anything to support your wholly meritless contentions, HorridGas!

          • HG

            You’re ignorance of idioms doesn’t excuse you mischaracterizing my comment, Hannitized. Give it another try though, even a blind squirrel…

          • Guest

            If your comment had nothing do with burning money/waste, it was irrelevant to the issue of burning money being ideal under batsh*tinsaneone’s post. If you’d rather contend your post is irrelevant than falt out wrong, I’ll accept that concession as well. Thanks either way, HorridGas!

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh how cute! The 7-11 keyboard commando’s so starved for attention he’ll strike up conversations with anyone…. what a little whore! Didn’t your mommy and daddy coddle you enough growing up lil feller? Well, do us a favor and remember when shooting up heroin in the stock room… use CLEAN needles… namely stop re-using the ones you find in the diabetic sharps container in the bathroom, you silly little goof!

          • twoamberlampspsa

            In addition to the warning lights located in her username, this first public service announcement is to underscore the dangers of being a vile c@#nt like two_amber_lamps. Before making mean-spited, worthless posts such as the above, please reflect on two_amber_lamp’s trajectory toward a self-inflicted gunshot wound and funeral with none in attendance. While it is too late for two_amber_lamps, who will undoubtedly sit online continuing to mistakenly believe her virulent posts validate her life in meaningful way, but hopefully others can avoid such a pathetic life.

        • willieB

          You are greeted as the garbage you are.

          • Guest

            Thanks smallwillie- As none of your posts contain any semblance of a thought besides uninspired insults, when you finally do your part to make the world a better place by committing suicide, hopefully others will see your pathetic life of posting garbage insults on garbage websites and will hopefully avoid a similar fate.

          • willieB

            Again, you really should stop talking to your mirror. No one likes you, everyone just laughs at you.

          • Guest

            Thanks smallwillie/leonaordbuttmunch, it takes a lot of bravery and creativity to throw the “I know you are but am I am I?” bomb.

          • willieB

            Yawnnnnnnn….

      • cylde

        Printing money does not create wealth, it just creates more money with each unit worth less than the previous stock of money thus destroying the value and the wealth of those that produced food, fuel, or materials such as lumber.

    • Guest

      The Joker would also be a huge hero for burning all that cash in The Dark Knight. Leave it to conservatives to vindicate villains like him and Scrooge!

      • Willi’s_mongoloid_mommy

        Rob’s pet troll back for his attention fix…anonomously…BRAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • mickey_moussaoui

    …and obama voters are still parasites

  • USA

    It was only a matter of time…..

    The
    Americans With No Abilities Act

    President Barack
    Obama and the Democrat-led Senate are considering sweeping legislation that will
    provide new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is
    being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates of the millions of
    Americans who lack any real skills or ambition.

    “Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not
    possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for
    themselves in society,” said California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer
    stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over.
    With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors
    to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are
    doing.”

    In
    a Capitol Hill press conference, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate
    Majority Leader Harry Reid pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service,
    which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to
    performance. Approximately 74 percent of postal employees lack any job skills,
    making this agency the single largest U.S. employer of Persons With No
    Ability.

    Private-sector industries with good
    records of non-discrimination against the inept include retail sales (72
    percent), the airline industry (68 percent), and home-improvement warehouse
    stores (65 percent). At the state government level, the Department of Motor
    Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (63
    percent).

    Under the Americans With No Abilities
    Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with
    important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an
    illusory sense of purpose and performance.

    Mandatory non-performance-based raises
    and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most
    unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to
    corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI)
    into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and
    medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two
    talented hires.

    Finally, the Americans With No Abilities
    Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate
    against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions
    such as, “Do you have any skills or experience that relate to this
    job?”

    “As
    a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have
    something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a
    lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to
    remember righty tighty, lefty loosey. “This new law should be real good for
    people like me. I’ll
    finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of
    other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the
    tunnel.

    Said Sen. Dick Durbin: “As a senator
    with no abilities, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy
    ought to be extended to every American with no abilities. It is our duty as
    lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her
    inadequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation and a good
    salary for doing so.”

    • Bat One

      Brilliant!!!

    • cylde

      That was a spot on long rant about affirmative action.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Another dumb con fights the shadow of his own strawman, thinks he wins an argument.

      • $16179444

        sadly you don’t even think…..much less win at anything

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          I live in Hawaii….not a bad victory for a surfer. You claim to surf, live about 300 miles from the beach and dress up in yellow tights to ride your bike down the road to the local grooming parlor.

          There’s victories all over the place, for some.

          • $16179444

            I’ve surfed since i was 10. Unlike you i have to actually work and provide instead of having it handed to me. once again your strawman fails. I’d love to live in Hawaii….ask your mom if she’ll pay my way as she does for you…btw, a boogie board isn’t surfing champ.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni resides in Hawaii, he lives on this blog!

          • $16179444

            he doesn’t even surf — he boogie boards.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Let’s see a picture of you surfing….anything close to this will do.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Wow, so hard core! I’ve been surfing since I was 8. Real surfers don’t leave the coast, ever. Maybe we surfed the same spots along the west coast, but I doubt it, I rarely surfed mushy ankle biters. Speaking of ankle biters, maybe Poofy can offer you some insight about the difference between surfing in boardies vs 6 millimeter rubber?

            Don’t even bother comparing resume’s, there’s no comparison. I’m a self made man. The only thing my parents gave me was a roof over my head and the opportunity to make it on my own, they didn’t even give me a dollar for school. But go ahead and keep telling yourself the lie that you do, all you have is fantasy.

          • Yolanda

            Your parents were able to sneak into the country. You flunked out of school, or is your daddy lying when he tells those stories?
            You’re a self made, documented tax cheat who sleeps with filthy infected men and women. Your life is as relevant as a fart in a wind storm.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I’ll just add envious SOB to sore bitter loser. Heh!

          • Yolanda

            Envious of someone who sleeps with filthy men and women??? Envious of a documented tax cheat??? No one is envious of you. You’re just an ordinary piece of sh*t. There’s nothing special about you. No one likes you.
            Your life is as relevant as a fart in a wind storm

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You’re wearing a 6mm rubber now, Tiny Sociopath? Congratulations! Is that on Viagra or do you just look longingly at my screen name every time you write it?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You are ever the child, seeking my attention. All you can do is reduce yourself further, as a man, with this bitter loser approach.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            ROTFLMAO. Too funny! You spend Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on a North Dakota conservative blog arguing with people you do not agree with and do not like, and I’m bitter!

            I do compliment you for admitting you wear 6mm rubbers. We all knew you had preternaturally tiny feet, when you stamp them impatiently without making any noise. The 6 mm rubbers are no big surprise, although there may be some who think you’re still bragging!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So this is what has become of the conservative argument? You’re an embarrassment. But please continue to degrade yourself and SAB in the process. My job is done. :)

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Mocking you and poking fun at your overweening narcissism is not a conservative “argument”, Tiny Willie. I save those for the adults that don’t run like scalded dogs when I challenge their facts and they can’t back them up.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Nobody debates you, nobody ever has. The only thing you have ever offered SAB is bad puns and personal attacks. You have always been one of the most vocal when it comes to degrading SAB. You continue to parade your immaturity and bitter loser personality. Be my guest, you just play into my hand. But your such a desperate and small little guy you can’t stop, you have to have the last word, even if your words are meaningless blather and ad hominem.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hello “nobody”! You ever get around to backing up your baseless and asinine statement that Dan White was a “gun enthusiast”? Or are you just typing to hear the clicks echo inside the vast, empty canyons of your head? You ran like a scalded dog from that argument like you do from every argument that you are losing…which is most of them. Unless you are in denial, like asserting mindlessly that “camp” is “short for campaign”.

            “But your (sic) such a desperate and small little guy you can’t stop, you have to have the last word, even if your words are meaningless blather and ad hominem.”

            Your projection is duly noted, Tiny Mynah Bird Boy.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I wasn’t debating you, I was proving that you didn’t know what you were talking about as the gun laws changed after Dan White murdered two people, with the guns he loved so much as was trained to use, as a “responsible” gun owner. You know, those gun owners that you claim are so responsible, until they decide to murder…..that is.

            There’s a difference between correcting and debating, not that you would know.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Of course you weren’t debating me! That would mean that if you asserted something as fact, you’d have to back it up, and not run like a scalded dog when pressed for a source…which you have still not provided. You didn’t refute any of my points, Tiny Sociopath. Like claiming that “camp” is short for “campaign”, you declare victory and then marinate in your ignorance. Take your twaddle and run away Tiny Poochie and let the adults talk.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I proved you were an idiot by overlooking that the gun laws changed after Dan White, a law abiding American who was well trained with guns and sought out employment where he could use his skill and appreciation for guns, before he decided to murder other Americans with his favorite tool.

            Now all you want to do is change the subject to ANYTHING that’s different from the fact that you didn’t know the gun laws changed after the murders.

            This too is not a debate, it’s a correction, because you need them so often.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            The fact that the gun laws changed had nothing to do with the discussion, Hanni Boo Boo, which you might have noticed if you

            a) had a brain,

            b) knew how to use it,

            c) were not functionally illiterate, and

            d) all of the above.

            Dan White drove a car to work every day. He was familiar with them. He used them in his job. Did that make him a “car enthusiast” in the tiny dry sponge between your ears, Tiny Sociopath?

            ” you didn’t know the gun laws changed after the murders”

            Yet another stupid and baseless assertion from the mewling infant who was still crapping his nappies when the event occurred. I was an adult, living in Northern California and subject to the very laws you mindlessly assert that I “didn’t know”.

            Honestly, Tiny Sociopath, don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?

            Give us a call when you finish wet nursing and start your kindergarten classes. We can help you with “lay down and be quiet”.

          • HG

            Uh, H. About that success you’re so proud of. Um, “you didn’t build that”. At least the President says so.
            If your telling the truth, congratulations. I mean that sincerely. Well done. I’d add that everyone needs to realize that potential in their life and gov’t can’t realize it for them. You of all people should know that.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Unlike you I actually understood the president. Without a teacher or a business mentor, I have had two, I wouldn’t be in a position to have advanced my career because the system works against non-privileged whites, and non-whites.

            Business owners can’t argue against results, they just choose to profit from them. I produced results and that could not be denied, only opportunity can be denied, and they are denied all the time to people they system works against.

            I started my own business and then I took that experience to the corporate world and applied those self taught talents, then I took it on the road to make my life what I want it to be, where I want it to be.

            Most SAB conservatives have always tried to tear me down by claiming I live in my mothers basement, or would mock poor people who work fast food for a living, like PROOF, who believes it’s cool to mock those folks. I never understood why most SAB conservatives are so childish.

          • guest

            Says Rob’s pet troll and narcissistic, documented, STD infected tax cheat. You’re just too funny. No one likes you, everyone just laughs at you, and they laugh hard!!!

          • HG

            Again, congratulations. We conservatives want the same for everyone.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I don’t believe that at all. Conservatives like to deny opportunities to non-whites.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’ll tell that to Herman Cain, you tiny race baiting tater tot. He must be so confused, being a conservative and all!

            If any opportunity was denied to you, it wasn’t because of your Hispanic or Italian heritage, it was because you’re a moron of questionable character.

            BTW, when you have to resort to race baiting because you have no real argument, your job here really is done! Heh.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I’ve seen a politically active conservative throw the resume of a black man into the trash as soon as it was handed to him. When I asked why he did that he said; “you can only put your hand in the fire so many times before you learn you get burned”.

            You can sit here and degrade SAB with more of your ad hominem and fantasy, but reality tells a different story.

            I know you need to try to make things personal when trying to involve yourself where you weren’t previously, but at least try to sound intelligent.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “I’ve seen a politically active conservative throw the resume of a black man into the trash…”

            The operative word there is “a”, Tiny Meathead, a word whose meaning and number totally escape you. So, if I see a liberal do something then all liberals do it? I’ve seen you and rbb lie. Does this mean all liberals are liars? I’ve seen you make stupid, stupid mistakes. Does that mean all liberals are mind numbingly stupid? You are such a child, Tiny Moron. And this fellow was a business associate of yours was he not? Shared the rest of your morals, too, I’ll bet!

            Try to convince yourself that when you libel all conservatives with your race baiting lies that you are not spewing ad hominems.

            If you are going to copy what I say, trying finding out what the words mean first. BTW, it does not “degrade” SAB when I tell the truth about you, Tiny Sociopath. We’ll just put that down as yet another English word you haven’t a clue to the meaning.

          • HG

            So you generalize about conservatives based on the actions of one? That’s no argument, it’s a pathetic generalization.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Last time you told this story, you said you were working with this guy. Did you report him to the EEOC for what appeared to you to be a blatant case of racial discrimination in hiring? No?? I guess when you have no principles to stand up for, it makes ‘making a buck’ that much easier for you, doesn’t it, Lowlife Scumitized?

            Reality does tell a different story, Tiny Sociopath. But, I doubt you could pick it out out of a lineup, though.

          • Vince

            hanni Italian?!? Not a chance, he’s too much of a punk ass twerp.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Well, according to Hanni he is. Of course, you have to consider the source. He once talked about a birthday party for his father he said was “100% Italian”. And, according to the documentary he linked us to, the last name for the pimply faced kid in the video he linked to* can be either an Italian or a Hispanic surname.

            (Of course, if his father is Italian, as he said, then it puts a lie to the BS about him being a 13th or 14th generation Californian, since the Italians having been in California that long.)

            That’s Hanni’s real problem…keeping all his lies straight.

            *about 30 minutes in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7WDc50ZkQ

          • Vince

            Well, it seems that you can read about “bonilla” primarily linked to crime in Columbia, and other parts of South America.

          • HG

            Ridiculous.

          • $16179444

            a lemonade stand isn’t really construed as starting one’s own business.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Then you shouldn’t have chosen to be in the lemonade business.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I don’t mock people in the fast food industry just because you try to do what they do, but can’t quite keep up, Tiny Sociopath. I scarcely mocked you when you announced to the world that you wear 6 millimeter rubbers. Do you practice by putting them on pencil erasers? Bless your heart!

          • $16179444

            flipping burgers at some stand in Hilo isn’t my idea of ‘making it’ – real surfers don’t ever leave the coast? I guess Lopez wasn’t a real surfer as he lives where i do….of course they didn’t give you any money for school….its evident you never attended. go smoke another bowl and pretend your boogie board gives you cred to hang with the big boys.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I can’t help that you aim lo, and realize your dream of low achievement. What I can do is offer you advice, but people choose their own destiny and failures. You have chosen your own failures. Congrats.

          • $16179444

            if i was aiming low i would be you.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Please. You watch videos of my friends surfing to pretend you’re a surfer. That’s your life.

          • Leonard_Bonilla

            Look at willie bonilla, Rob’s tiny pet troll, up all night, alone, on a blog seeking any attention he can get. So pathetic, you qualify to have a charity set up on your behalf.

            Braahahahahahaha!!!!

          • $16179444

            you have no friends…… why do you keep flailing about? I won this back and forth with you days ago. let it go Gidget.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            ” let it go Gidget”

            Heh. Thanks, Mark, for my first good chuckle in 2013! Hanni doesn’t know the meaning of the word “defeat”. No, seriously, it’s a word…in English! Our little Hanni has trouble with those! Some people have put together a comprehensive list of English words that Hanni is not quite sure of the meaning or understands…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You won what? The fat and balding contest?

            Look, this whole thing of you pretending you’re a surfer and trying to call the only real surfer between the two of us a kook is the perfect representation for your view of the world.

            People like you can’t grasp reality or admit that you’ve got it wrong. You live in an upside down world.

            You voted for Bush twice, you idiot.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “The fat and balding contest?”

            So, you admit to being in a “fat and balding” contest with Mark? And coming in second??? Middle age surely is not kind to you, Hanni Boo Boo. Perhaps you should cover up some of the hundreds of mirrors in your house until you can get to Weight Watchers? (And the Hair Club for Men!)

            On an entirely different note, do you keep your Rogaine over the bathroom sink, or hide it in the closet? NTTAWWT

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yuk, yuk, yuk. You keep so many pictures of me, don’t act like you don’t know I have a full head of hair and a thin waist line. You can’t be a fat bastard, like Mark, and surf. Oh, that’s right…..he doesn’t.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Poor, poor, Hanni Boo Boo! You know that I do not have a single picture of you, that you yourself didn’t post on the Internet first. If I have a lot of them, what does that say about the narcissist who posted them all? I’m not surprised that you’re embarrassed by them. Especially that one of you in the Wilford Brimley shirt, with Robert Fibbs having to lean way down to put his arm around you, and your nipples getting hard and showing through your shirt…NTTAWWT

            See! It’s not a “lot” of pictures I keep. I just recycled the old tired lame one you posted. I used the one of you and Fibbs for the ‘shorter list of English words you cannot quite understand’.

            And people with hair use Rogaine. Mostly the vain, insecure ones with mirrors on every wall in their house…

          • LenYol

            “I have a full head of hair and a thin waist line.”

            That doesn’t make you any less of a jerkoff. It just means that for now, you’re a jerkoff with hair and a waist line. But your future looks like this, fat and bald…and a mongoloid.

          • LenYol

            “You keep so many pictures of me”

            And all of the pictures are at least 15 years old.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Brahahaha. Not quite, little guy. I think the oldest one Poofy keeps is 10yrs old. The rest are anywhere from 2-5yrs old. He’s a weirdo stalker, sort of like you, but worse.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Nice projection, Tiny Stalker! Have you tried to impersonate me on any other sites lately? Google my screen name lately from work like you’ve done in the past?

            Now accuse me again for posting all that information about you that you posted yourself! Oh, and tell us what a great “friend” of yours Fibbs is. I have all the pictures of me taken with my friends, in airport parking lots! /sarc

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, why are you so embarrassed about your stalking and obsessive nature? It’s quite a contradiction to be a stalker and then get all up in arms when you are called out on the facts. The facts are you contacted my friends in an attempt to damage my relationships, you keep an untold number of pictures of me, you searched me out on the internet looking for any information you could find about my employer, threatened to inform them of my blogging commentary, as well as my customers (threatening my livelihood), posted lies about me and women in an attempt to bring me down to your level and record of failure with women. You do all of this and then act innocent. Astonishing.

            And please, just because you could never ride in the presidents motorcade or get on the tarmac next to the personal jet of any high ranking politician is not something that raises your stature. Better not to draw any attention to your lack of relevance. It’s no surprise though, you probably couldn’t pass the security clearance.

            LOL.

          • LenYol

            Yawnnnnnnnn!

            Speaking of obsessed, pet troll, do you sleep with your computer on the pillow next to you so when you wake up you don’t have to get out of bed to log onto SAB and take up the roll of Rob’s little pet troll? Do you sneak into the bathroom with your IPhone during your breaks so you can get your attention fix and so everyone can crap on your face? Of course you do.
            Wow!!! Standing on the tarmac next to a jet, just like the real baggage handlers do… Brahahahaha!!!! Or are you the one who sucks the crap and piss out of the toilets?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yikes, your level of obsession ranks parallels that of Poofy. Then there’s the matter of projection. You really need to have that looked at.

            I live rent free inside your mind.

          • LenYol

            The only one who is obsessed is you, tiny little willie. That’s why you’re Rob’s pet troll, morning, noon and night. Your life is here, on SAB. You live here, rent free. Pathetic, so pathetic. But, you keep telling everyone what a wonderful life you have, all the while spending all your time here, rent free. Brahahahaha!!!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Your envy is apparent to all. Why are you so twisted that you would ask for me to boast about my lifestyle of living in paradise, while you live in the alley’s of the sewer? Why ask me to boast if that’s supposedly what sends you off the deep end?

            Do I really need to tell you that I surfed perfect 10-11ft surf the other day, where it was clean and glassy conditions, only to be followed up by spending some time on the beach with my beautiful lady? Does sharing this information deepen your sadistic need? I could go on, but it’s not my style to pick on the mentally deficient.

          • LenYol

            No one has any envy towards you, and no one has asked you to boast, even though you have a desperate need to in an attempt to try to convince people that you’re not the scum bag, and tax cheat that you are. No one cares where you live, where you surf, or the filthy infected women you sleep with. You’re nothing.
            You live rent free as Rob’s pet troll.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            “no one has asked you to boast,” – You

            “But, you keep telling everyone what a wonderful life you have,” – You

            Oh, come now, little fellah. Everyone knows you just asked me to boast about living in paradise, and having a great life. You are a coward who is afraid to post your political views and positions as they would be exposed for the stupidity that’s in them, or the lack of principles that go hand in hand with modern conservatism.

            All you can do is pretend you don’t care where I live while constantly showing you care.

            You are an obsessed freak who can only repeat the same line, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

            That’s your life, what ever shit hole you may currently be residing.

          • LenYol

            No one has any envy towards you, and no one has asked you to boast, even
            though you have a desperate need to in an attempt to try to convince
            people that you’re not the scum bag, and tax cheat that you are. No one
            cares where you live, where you surf, or the filthy infected women you
            sleep with. You’re nothing.
            You live rent free as Rob’s pet troll.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            “no one has asked you to boast,” – You

            “But, you keep telling everyone what a wonderful life you have,” – You

            Oh, come now, little fellah. Everyone knows you just asked me to boast about living in paradise, and having a great life. They know I live rent free inside your head.

            You are a coward who is afraid to post your political views and positions as they would be exposed for the stupidity that’s in them, or the lack of principles that go hand in hand with modern conservatism.

            All you can do is pretend you don’t care where I live while constantly showing you care.

            You are an obsessed freak who can only repeat the same line, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

            That’s your life, what ever shit hole you may currently be residing.

          • LenYol

            No one has any envy towards you, and no one has asked you to boast, even though you have a desperate need to in an attempt to try to convince people that you’re not the scum bag, and tax cheat that you are. No one cares where you live, where you surf, or the filthy infected women you sleep with. You’re nothing.
            You live rent free as Rob’s pet troll.

            “The responsible women told me right before we were going to have sex and indicated they were having a “break out”. HSV-1 or HSV-2. I just wanted to hit it because we worked together and because of the tension. I take pills for Clamydia .”

            Hannitized on May 10, 2009 at 10:13 am

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Poor stupid troll! I never contacted your “friends”. We’ll just put down “fact” as yet another English word you have no clue as to the meaning. I don’t even know for certain if you have any friends, much less what their names might be. How then should I have contacted them? This is delusion on your part. Like when you accuse me of having contacted your employer. I have proposed a wager equivalent to everything you own – house, car, surf boards, belt buckles – if you could provide any actual evidence that this had ever taken place. (Phone records, email headers, postmarked correspondence- anything!) And rather than doubling your wealth in a day, as you could if you had anything to back up your lying blather, you prove once more that you are full of nothing more than lies and hot air. (And denying me a nice bridge to live under on Oahu!)

            “you searched me out on the internet”

            Projection. You searched me, remember? I have record of you visiting my blog from a Google search of my screen name. It showed, BTW, that you were Googling me from your company’s ISP. There was no need to search for anything about your employer, since you had already given me more than I wanted to know.

            And speaking of fact, the fact is that you have tried to impersonate me on more or more blogs, whereas I would never attempt to impersonate your mind numbing stupidity. The evidence of your lies and attempts at assassinating my character are out there. This is simply another in a long line.

            “threatened to inform them of my blogging commentary”

            Hard to say if this is delusion or merely more of the lies you spew through your fecal stained teeth. I never “threatened” to contact anyone about the military hating, stupid and misogynistic trash you were posting. (Found in the nearly 10,000 comments you refuse to claim, dare I say, ran like a scalded dog from?) I did try to give you a little friendly advice about not posting such stuff publicly, where it could be seen by anyone, which I speculated might have proven detrimental to your livelihood, but I never “threatened” to do so, and you are just a tiny, sawed off, mealy mouthed, pabulum puking POS troll for saying I did.

            The fact that you may have felt threatened by a friendly and innocuous warning speaks volumes to your craven cowardice, not my character. If someone cautions you not to stand too close to the edge, they are hardly threatening to push you over. Should you ever reach adult maturity, you might someday learn this. (But, I doubt it.)

            Can you still walk under closed doors without ducking your head, Tiny Sociopath? Thought so.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            PROOFoundly_dishonest, do I need to post your own words admitting to contacting at least one of my friends? And if you admit to contacting one, which we all know you have, who’s to say you haven’t contacted more?

            You’re lying about it now which proves you will lie on just about anything.

            You can spend all of Rob’s bandwidth lying in an attempt to cover your tracks, but it’s your cross to bear, not mine.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You can post my own words all you like Tiny Trollop. The only person you claim I have contacted, whom you claim is your “friend”, didn’t want her name associated in the same sentence with you. Who’s to say you haven’t contacted more dogs sexually than just Daisy, the one you lost your virginity to? I guess a total lack of evidence is no defense to you, eh, Tiny Dog Molester? You never did answer from whence I got this imaginary list of names of your imaginary friends? More Mind Read Fail from Oahu’s most famous Tiny Sociopath?

            You have lied repeatedly when you say I have contacted your “friends” (plural) and possibly even “friend” (singular). Her contact with me was to ask me to take her name off your comment. I cannot help it if your self esteem is so low you have to bolster it by name dropping and claiming relationships that are not there.

            Tell us, has your “friend” Fibbs ever been over to your house? You ever been to his? So, it’s just that one contact in the airport men’s room, er, parking lot, then? (NTTAWWT.) Thought so.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            This is exactly the sort of lies you result to when your back is up against the wall. You lie, over and over and over again. You are defeated.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Your projection and delusions of adequacy are duly noted.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You are a tiny, tiny man who has to have the last word, even it’s just your declaration of defeat.

          • Hal513

            Says willie bonilla who’s desperately trying to have the last word and live up to his reputation of Rob’s desperate pet troll.

          • Troy

            What is it with you
            and the constant use of the word “we” when you are attempting to speak for
            yourself?
            This is a clear window into your shallow mind and an obvious
            indication that you need SAB to satisfy your sense of belonging….to…..well,
            something, anything. In this case you need to belong to a group who are more
            normal than your particular brand of wackiness, along with members in your
            party. . How desperate and pathetic.

          • LenYol

            You’re closer to 50 than 40 now. Tick-Tock little troll…and you’re still all alone. No one likes you, everyone just laughs at you.
            Brahahahaha!!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            And most people still think I’m in my early 30’s. But, come now, little fellah. Everyone knows you need to change your name at every other comment. You are a coward who is afraid to post your political views and positions as they would be exposed for the stupidity that’s in them, or the lack of principles that go hand in hand with modern conservatism.

            All you can do is make the same weak attack to smear your political rivals who you envy.

            You are an obsessed freak who can only repeat the same line, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

            That’s your life, what ever shit hole you may currently be residing.

      • USA

        You, the moron, is the only one who thinks it’s an argument. Why don’t you argue with Liberal Larry or Edd, or maybe Joe 6Pack is free to take up some of your time, pet troll.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          You are correct, albeit accidental. This was no argument, of any sort. It was just paranoid shadow boxing.

          • USA

            My entire statement was correct, thanks for the acknowledgment.

            “You, the moron, is the only one who thinks it’s an argument. Why don’t you argue with Liberal Larry or Edd, or maybe Joe 6Pack is free to take up some of your time, pet troll.”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            As I said, your statement was no argument, therefore it can not be correct because your entire statement was based on fantasy and nothing in it was truthful.

            Argument: A reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.

          • USA

            You ne’er-do-well, it was never presented as an argument. The only argument is the one you’re having with yourself. LOLOLOLO!!

            “You, the moron, is the only one who thinks it’s an argument. Why don’t you argue with Liberal Larry or Edd, or maybe Joe 6Pack is free to take up some of your time, pet troll.”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What’s LOLO? You idiot.

            Of course the make believe that was posted was pure fantasy, it was presented in the form of a story to make an argument against what you believe is liberalism. Unfortunately for you, you neither understand liberalism or made a truthful post.

            You’re just an idiot bitter loser who is going to spend 4 more years doing nothing but be another miserable asshole.

            Happy New Year!

          • $16179444

            shadow boxing and you knocked yourself unconscious, again.

      • LenYol

        Oh look, it’s SAB’s resident STD infected tax cheat, willie bonilla seeking a little attention

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Hello lil fella? How are those those green tights fitting today?

          Still huffing deer farts?

          • LenYol

            You really should stop talking to your mirror. How’s your supply of chlamydia meds hold up?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Every person who wears a condom is avoiding STDs, and/or pregnancy. Just because you aren’t smart enough to understand that mature adults protect themselves from STDs doesn’t make you the genius. But let’s face it, you’re just a bitter loser. You’ve got nothing else other than petty ad hominem that isn’t based in reality.

          • LenYol

            The reality is that you sleep with filthy infected women, and probably men too. If it wasn’t for low class, you’d have no class at all, chlamydia boy. You are the loser, and thats all you’ve got, and your STD meds.

            “The women told me right before we were going to have sex and indicated they were not having a “break out”. HSV-1 or HSV-2.
            I take pills for Clamydia beause its hard to diagnose and is most common in women.”

            Hannitized on May 10, 2009 at 10:13 am

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Every person who wears/wore a condom is/was protecting themselves from STD’s or preventing pregnancy. Either you are/were practicing unsafe sex or you aren’t/haven’t having/had any sex at all.

            The only thing you can do is act like an idiot child who tries to insinuate that women who have been lied to by men who have STD’s are somehow worthy of the scorn you give them because some of you lying bastards are cowards.

            You clearly don’t know the difference between past tense and present tense. And your desire to lie about having sex with other men is more proof that you are either a child who has nothing or you are some sicko who likes to imagine man on man sex for your own pleasure. Which is it?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “your desire to lie about having sex with other men is more proof that you are either a child who has nothing or you are some sicko who likes to imagine man on man sex for your own pleasure.”

            Knowing your track record here, Tiny Sociopath, that sounds like projection coming from your first hand experience. NTTAWWT.

          • HG

            A monogamous relationship like marriage is protection from STD’s, condom or no and sex is far more pleasurable without one.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            But not everyone is married. Unless you are a virgin, you need protection from STD’s and to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Don’t join in with the infants who don’t understand about protection, GH.

          • LenYol

            Everyone knows you’re unmarried. No decent woman, or man would want a scumbag like you. No one likes you, everyone just laghs at you.

          • Onslaught1066

            Hey there lil feller, are you lost again.

            Your mommy must be about ready for you to make your daily trip to the liquor store for her.

            Why don’t you toddle on back home now and leave the conversation to the adults, M’kay?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Ever since he moved up to the 6 mm rubbers, he thinks he’s an authority on condoms.

    • awfulorv

      An addendum to the bill will provide employment protection for those who find it difficult to grasp the AM-PM concept, which makes them late for nearly everything…

  • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

    Nutters crack me up.

    • willieB

      You, being the child of an as*hole sucker, anything would put a smile on your face.

  • Neiman

    As saving natural resources was not much a goal at the time of Scrooge, no truthful application can be made to him of any such larger purpose in life. While I defend capitalism as the driving force behind prosperity for everyone and I decry, oppose most passionately the Left stealing money from taxpayers and they deciding which charitable causes should benefit (with strings attached) as being most unchristian; nevertheless, it was people like Scrooge, money grubbing business people that Christ was appealing to for the most generous individual charitable giving, “to whom much has been given, much is required.” So, any attempts to praise Scrooge or Scrooge types is the folly of fools, it is the fruit of greed and greed, despite Hollywood’s assertion to the contrary, in “Wall Street,” is NEVER good.

    On the other hand, it has been proven that among conservatives, people of means, especially conservative Christians – even the poor among them, their individual giving far exceeds that of tight-fisted liberals that feel better giving other peoples money, never their own.

  • WOOF

    Found dead of hypothermia in a pile of rags , next to a collection
    of stockings filled with lumps of coal labeled,
    “In Time They Will Become Diamonds”,
    Ebenezer Scrooge.

  • 11B40

    Greetings:

    Back when I was studying economics, I came across a concept that one doesn’t hear much about these days. It was called “forced savings” and had to do with how people came up with the money to start businesses, the old proletarian to bourgeois to stinking capitalist transition. The concept shares a bit of similarity with another not much heard of anymore concept, the ability to delay gratification formerly thought of as a hallmark of the rising class.

    Simply put, and especially for those with a fondness for graphs of whom there as some here about, it’s the savings versus consumption. Does one forego the joy of immediate acquisition for the delayed opportunity to create an investment that may bear future fruit. One of the many infirmities of the Obama Administration, to my mind, is its leader’s inability to distinguish investment from consumption.

  • WOOF

    Scrooge’s redemption and happiness comes from generosity,
    raising his employees wages, giving to the poor.
    Landsberg screed is just another defense of trickle down crapola.
    According to him better the Cratchet family never ate Christmas diner..

    The second spirit speaks to the “economist Landsberg”

    This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both,

    and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy,

    for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the

    writing be erased. Deny it.’ cried the Spirit, stretching out

    its hand towards the city. ‘Slander those who tell it ye.

    Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse.

    And abide the end.’

  • Neiman

    NEWS FLASH
    A VERY GREAT GENERAL, NORMAN SCHWARTZKOFF HAS JUST DIED.

    HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MARINE. GREAT GUY.

    WE MAY LOSE GEORGE H. W. BUSH SOON AS WELL.

    Sorry about high jacking this thread for this grim news. But, I know Rob will probably post his own story on this.

    • WOOF

      GHW Bush is being zombified.

      • Neiman

        You are truly a low life bastard! You would never understand a decent, honorable man like G.H.W. Bush, as you are a bottom dwelling, scum sucker.

        • WOOF

          He’s 88 years old, the old man’s friend , pneumonia, has come for him. They won’t let him go.
          The newest intravenous antibiotics, respritory medications. He’ll maybe recover for awhile.
          Then maybe stroke ,dementia, falls, broken bones,
          Zombification. The best medical care can be a curse.

        • Bat One

          Don’t be too hard on WOOF. He spent a lifetime guarding airplanes on Okinawa. Terminal sunstroke.

          • Neiman

            It makes me angry because, even if you are of the other party and disagree with the Bush Sr, like his son he seems such a decent man, a war hero, the most qualified man ever in the White House according to his resume, he is unassuming, stays out of the spotlight and there has never been any rumors of impropriety. Even as ill as he is at his age, the Woof man cannot say anything nice about him.

          • WOOF

            GHW was the best of them, real hero. Those that followed traded on his name.

          • Neiman

            I think you are too harsh on them for partisan differences. Mistakes and policy differences aside, George W. has some of that same decency, humility and sincere compassion of his father. He too no longer seeks the limelight, no ego to feed, humbly and quietly he and Laura still visit wounded soldiers and their families, he does not mess about in foreign affairs and seems a gentleman. All leaders have clay feet, W. is no exception, even conservatives disagreed with him passionately, but there is this inner fineness that one can see in him.

            On the other hand, with the death of the late senator from Hawaii, Obama spoke of himself mostly, made himself the center of attention.

          • WOOF

            You confuse me with Naha or Kadena Air Police an Air Force outfit. Me a 62MP Co, Armed Forces Policeman. A Dogface as Marines often told me. You’d be most likely to meet me at night walking on the streets of Naminueh or Koza.

          • Bat One

            Ah, yes. Koza and Naminueh. I knew both of them well. Took my very first karate lesson at the dojo of a little old man named Hohan Sokan. Astonishing!

          • WOOF

            He was old then and moved like a bullet. I was impressed.

          • willieB

            “You’d be most likely to meet me at night walking on the streets of Naminueh or Koza.
            So, you were just a cheap street walker following in your mommy’s foot steps.How proud you must be.

      • Bat One

        Ah… no! That would be Jimmy Carter.

    • Bat One

      RIP … and yes, Semper Fi!

  • Snarkie

    “If you earn a dollar and refuse to spend a dollar, the rest of the world is one dollar richer—because you produced a dollar’s worth of goods and didn’t consume them.”

    I thought Jindal said you guys are going to have to move away from moronic sh*t in order to have a chance at the next election?

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