I’m Tired Of Hearing About What Companies Spent Their Bailouts On

Yes, I know I know. They took federal money. They claimed they had to have it to stay solvent. Then they blow it. I understand the outrage. I get the frustration.
But all this outrage over bonuses and luxury parties funded (regardless of what the various bailed out companies say) by bailout money misses the point. If we didn’t want these idiots to spend the money, why’d we bail them out in the first place?
Because of course this was going to happen. Of course they were going to get the money and spend it on things that get the public and the grandstanding politicians outrageously outraged. Who didn’t see that coming (except the politicians who voted for it, I guess)?
The point is that they never should have gotten this money in the first place. They couldn’t spend our tax dollars on bonuses and luxury trips for the very executives who steered them into insolvency if we hadn’t given it to them first.
We could have avoided this whole mess just by recognizing that the government shouldn’t be bailing out anyone. If anyone is going to get money from the government it should be the taxpayers getting their own money back in proportion to the rates they paid it in to the government at.

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    This post is giving tacit approval to welfare for the corporate. I can smell it.

    Not a post about the AIG bonuses either. That’s because conservatives approve of giving bailout money as bonuses to the people who dealth in the credit default swaps that brought down the company.

    You people have seriously fucked up beliefs, ethics and priorities.

  • Buzz

    Yea, who needs banks…let them all fail.

  • robert108

    When they bail them out, they essentially approve of the way they do business, so it’s hypocritical for the govt to whine about it.

  • Bat One

    Not a post about the AIG bonuses either. That’s because conservatives approve of giving bailout money as bonuses to the people who dealth in the credit default swaps that brought down the company.

    As detailed here, there is nothing either AIG itself, or the US government could do legally other than go forward with the bonuses which are contractual obligations in place long before the “bailout.”

    The Treasury Department determined that the government did not have the legal authority to block the current payments by the company — which are part of a larger total payout reportedly valued at $450 million…

    In a letter to Geithner dated Saturday, (AIG Chairman Edward) Liddy informed Treasury that outside lawyers had informed the company that AIG had contractual obligations to make the bonus payments and could face lawsuits if it did not do so.

    Treasury lawyers have apparently agreed.

    In his letter, Liddy told Geithner, “We believe there will be considerably greater flexibility to reduce contractual payments in respect of 2009 and AIG intends to use its best efforts to do so.”

    But he also told Geithner that he felt it could be harmful to the company if the government continued to press for reductions in executive compensation.

    “We cannot attract and retain the best and brightest talent to lead and staff the AIG businesses, which are now being operated principally on behalf of the American taxpayers — if employees believe their compensation is subject to continued and arbitrary adjustment by the U.S. Treasury,” Liddy said.

    What is “fucked up” is the belief by self-styled “progressives” that the rule of law can be selectively enforced to suit their ignorant view of reality, and that contracts can be abrogated on the whim of the witlessly indignant.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    AndyinPheonix – I’m still suspicious that the O is on course for pulling off the Clower Pliven Strategy.

    Slight correction – it is the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

  • jimmypop

    agree. im shocked at people that are shocked that businesses that previously made bad choices and/ or wasted money, incurred no negative ramifications because of said bad choices and/ or waste, and still continue to make bad choices and/or waste money.

  • http://www.rabidamerican.net/ Rabid American

    PBO is the face for the cameras….

    [Place your tinfoil hats firmly on your skull, kids...] ;-)

    This is the greatest chance that the Neo-Marxists will ever have had to destroy our country and rebuild it as a Thug-ocracy in the image of Venezuela.

    The real powers lay in the hands of Pelosi and Reid, under the funding of Soros and his ilk.

    I think no one in the DNC ever really thought that Barry-Hussein would be elected. Nan and Harry have to keep a tight leash on this guy, but allow him to feel that he has the reins.

  • AndyinPhoenix

    Do I get a tin foil hat for thinking Obama / Pelosi
    / Reid want to run the money presses full tilt until the public marches on Washington? This note is slightly off target, but it made me do some research that yielded a disturbing discovery.

    I’m still suspicious that the O is on course for pulling off the Clower Pliven Strategy. Clower and Pliven were two head cases from the ’60 that proposed the way to beat the Man and take all the money from the Evil Rich people was to bankrupt the USA, principally by a systematic expansion of the welfare state.

    Well, here’s my point >> Google and the other search engines have scrubbed the links to “Clower Pliven” references!! Last fall there were pages and pages of links, and now these’s a single blip about the Obama video where he says it’s okay to bankrupt the dirty, evil coal companies.

    Queue Rod Serling and the background music.

  • carrick

    WTF guys?

    You really want them working on anything serious?

    Let them go at codifying mathematical constants and not writing more porkulus bills.

    Wouldn’t this make the world a better place?

    ENCOURAGE THEM.

  • jimmypop

    Yea, who needs banks…let them all fail.

    i agree 100%!! id love to open a bank after all the bad ones close. there is SERIOUS money in it… even if you run one honestly.

  • WOOFX

    Why would some people be able to award
    themselves huge amounts?

    Who do you think is driving the train ?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I don’t think Obama is at the heart of any sort of conspiracy. I think he’s just the worst kind of liberal. One who actually believes his own BS.

    Which makes him worse than, say, a Clinton.

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