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I probably missed it in all the political blather this year; but I thought Obama’s mother was caucasion and his father was of Arab blood, so from which parent did he get the African (black) blood. I am serious, I cannot recall where that black blood came from.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Mr Neiman, I submit the following:

Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was born in 1936 on the shores of Lake Victoria in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya. His father, Hussein Onyango Obama (c. 1895-1979, buried at Alego), belonged to the Luo tribe and was born Onyango, son of Obama (buried at Kendu Bay, Kenya) and wife Nyaoke, in one of their villages. Before working as a cook for missionaries in Nairobi, Onyango had travelled widely, enlisting with the name Onyango Obama in the British colonial forces during World War I and visiting Europe, India, and Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam and added Hussein to his name. Onyango had at least three wives; Barack Obama Sr. was the son of Akuma/Akumu, the second wife. However, he was raised by Onyango’s third wife, Sarah, after Akuma/Akumu left her family and separated from her husband in 1945.
Obama Sr. grew up in Nyangoma-Kogelo. At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England.

I feel that Rob’s concerns about affirmative action are overblown. Anything to bring a brother down, eh?!

Barry O is not a “real” brother since he has no slave blood.

watashiwa - Anything to bring a brother down, eh?!

Equality is bringing a brother down?

Looney toon.

Likwidshoe,
That last comment was pure sarcasm that was directed at Neiman,because he was questioning Barack’s racial identity.

watashiwa: Another trouble maker, huh? If you read my comments no one but a low grade moron cxould interpret them as being anything worse than a sincere question, as if I ever heard exact details about his background, I had forgotten them.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Nieman: Count yourself in the low grade category. Only a moron would ask a question, get an honest answer, then get upset because of a little ribbing. jeez!

watashiwa:
A) Maybe you are projecting your own feelings of upset and inadequancy at me?
B) Sometimes, because we have lost the precision of the English language, a Smiley face will indicate humor or teasing better than a later clarification. I know, I love sarcsam and people rarely get it that I am being sarcasic to make a point. I often wish I had used one of Rob’s Smiley faces in my many comments to get my true emotions across and avoid hurting someones feelings.
C) I appreciated your original answer and I did not get the teasing/sarcasm of your later coment, which was not deliberate on my part, just an honest misunderstanding.

So there -

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman: Thanks.

Rob:

No kidding.  Obama himself is one of the worst arguments for affirmative action ever to grace the national stage.  He comes from a solidly upper-middle class background.  He’s well-off financially.  He’s ivy-league educated.  Yet if selection for a job at a big company, or admission to a big school, were to come down to Obama and, say, a poor white kid from North Dakota Obama might win out for no other reason than because he’s black and the white kid is, well, white.

Is picking someone like Obama because he’s black really any better than picking a white person over a black person because the white person is white?

It’s not, which is why affirmative action should be cast down as the racist and inherently unfair practice that it is.  Unfortunately, affirmative action is the pet issue of an entire industry devoted to leveraging victimhood for power and profit and that industry isn’t about to let their pet issue go down without a fight

Are you as passionately opposed to the rampant practice of nepotism as you are to affirmative action. This goes on everyday and no one has made it a national political issue. Maybe it’s because the majority of people involved look like you. So tell me what’s the difference? And if there is no difference, why aren’t you pissed off and bringing this to the national attention. Maybe it’s because it has been going on so long that it is now a common practice. That was okay until the color of the benefactor changed. Then suddenly we have a problem. Forget about putting in a good word for Bob to get that job for which he is not qualified. No more secret whispers to an influential friend about getting Cindy into Yale, despite her grades. The colored have committed a serious foul. They dare to invade territory reserved for whites. And that is just plain unfair. Until you do away with nepotism, your stand against affirmatuve action is nothing more than racism, pure and simple.

watashiwa:
When you say that any particular ethnic group (I only believe in one race - human) needs affirmative action to succeed, in this day and age, you are in effect saying or admitting these people are by nature inferior, they are unable, ill equipped with the necessities to compete on the same playing field as other human beings with different skin hues and tones. That is at its heart - racism. It is at the heart of the Democrat Party and liberalism. It is IMO a liberal, white slave master mentality trying to pretend to help the inferior darkies succeed.

The fact is, people of color are succeeding at every level of our society, in every field, in every way. Why are so many more of them not succeeding? (1) Many of them have been crippled by the welfare plantation state, robbed of initiative. (2) They have been relieved of their responsibility to work hard, to use the tools available to them to scramble up the American ladder to success. (3) When you say you get affirmative action, they no longer feel a need to develop the skills and experience required, as they know the Democrat Party will throw chump change at them, because quite frankly, the more poor people of color the more votes for Democrats.

Most conservatives and Republicans I know believe that people of color only need the tools to succeed, and they are as good and often better than caucasions. Why? Because the hunger and deprivation of the ghetto drives them to be better than their counterparts. I am not justifying ghettos or poverty, just recognizing a driving force in that unhappy experience that tied to hope and the tools to succeed have produced a Barak Obama (BO to his friends), Colin Powell, Condi Rice and a few million other upwardly mobile, highly successful people of color.

That is what I get out of Rob’s comments!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Are you as passionately opposed to the rampant practice of nepotism as you are to affirmative action. This goes on everyday and no one has made it a national political issue. Maybe it’s because the majority of people involved look like you.

Even if the practice of “nepotism” (you’d better look that up because I don’t think it means what you think it means) were as rampant as you suggest, and I certainly don’t think it is, do you really think that “nepotism” that favors people who don’t look like me is the answer?

Two wrongs don’t a right make.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

“nepotism”

“nepotism”

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Not to mention there aren’t any government initiatives to mandate nepotism in the hiring practices of businesses. With affirmative action the government is forcing employers to hire certain individuals. At least with nepotism the hiring choice still remains in the hands of the employer.

IMO both are poor hiring practices, but affirmative action is an example of the government blatantly over-stepping its boundaries. That being said, government employees who are guilty of nepotism should be investigated/fired/whatever action is appropriate.

Also, watashiwa, people of all races can benefit from nepotism (after all it only deals with family links regardless of skin color). With affirmative action, only select racial/ethnic groups have the potential advantage.

That being said, government employees who are guilty of nepotism should be investigated/fired/whatever action is appropriate.

There goes most of the people on Nd’s public payroll!