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Certain members of North Dakota’s university system, and some of their apologists, are throwing a screaming fit over the politically-motivated decision by NDSU President Dean Bresciani to freeze federal grant funds from Obamacare intended for a sex education program. Bresciani, whose promise (given his character, or more accurately lack there of) will no doubt last about as long as the legislative session does, was simply responding to fact. The legislature doesn’t want these funds, and the legislature governs the state.

You see, North Dakota is a democracy, and North Dakotans (by and through their elected leaders) have decided that’s how it ought to be. NDSU, along with the 10 other institutions of higher education in the state’s university system, are government-created and taxpayer-funded organizations. They exist to serve the state.

But North Dakota’s higher education elite don’t want to be restrained by mere democracy. They have academic freedom! At least, that seems to be the message from an outraged Jane Ahlin in the Fargo Forum who writes that NDSU got “rolled” by the “right-wingers” in the state.

If Ahlin is suggesting that NDSU got governed by some of the people who we elect to govern state institutions, then yes she’s right. It’s that whole “will of the people” thing. Personally, I’m just fine with sex education that includes messages about contraception. It doesn’t bother me, though I’m a bit saddened by those who carry on as though “how babies are made” were a subject ripe for ground-breaking “research.”

We really are a nation in decline.

But I digress. Planned Parenthood is a despicable and extremely left-wing organization, and the state has no business partnering with the organization in any fashion. Our universities should not be centers of indoctrination under the guise of “academic freedom.”

If the faculty at NDSU want pure “academic freedom” they should join we “right wingers” in our efforts to privatize the university system. Without the taxpayers involved, the pointy heads at NDSU would be free to put as many condoms on bananas as they wish. Of course, without huge taxpayer subsidies, the faculty at NDSU might no longer be able to cash in their six-figure paychecks.

And that’s the rub.

NDSU wants the taxpayers to subsidize them, but then they want the taxpayers to shut up when it comes to how the universities conduct themselves. That’s why the university system, and its apologists, are endlessly talking about the importance of the “independence” of higher education. They want our money, but they don’t want to have to listen to us.

Great deal for them. Not such a great deal for the taxpayers. So maybe it’s time for a divorce.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • SusanBeehler

    Are you against sex education to our high risk population or are you just against the agency providing the education? Is their a “right” wing group offering over a million dollars for the high risk population who could benefit from this education. Stipulations of the grant The program is voluntary and along with sex education, teaches life skills to 15- to 19-year-olds identified through community-based organizations that work with youths, parental consent is required, abstinence is taught along with medically accurate information about human reproduction and disease transmission. It does not involve family planning or abortion, and it has nothing to do with North Dakota high schools. What “right” wing group is willing to provide this service? I am against abortion and I believe woman are more willing to choose abortion if they have not been educated in other choices to make about their body and sex.

    • Roy_Bean

      It isn’t the message, it’s the messenger. If the partnership was with the Vatican it would be the left wing screaming. Personally, I have always supported women’s rights to make informed choices.

      • sbark

        Agree on support of a womans right to make informed choices…….and choices is plural—the choice to have unprotected, unresponsible sex……..and then the choice of abortion vrs. adoptions or lifestyle change as a parent………
        The women have at least 2 choices………the unborn? zero
        Women have to realize, what PP and the Left is attempting to achieve, is removing responsibility of making the wrong choice from society. One can apply that to everything a Liberal makes a push on—-welfare, guns, abortion, entitlement…….
        The left beleives people are too stupid to make their own responsible decisions, and like overbearing parents are more than happy to remove responsibility from them——Ruling Class Elites.

      • Lianne

        I always find that statement “I have always supported women’s rights to make informed choices” from men comical. Here is the scenario.

        “Hey, baby, let me have my way with you. I love you. I need you. I want you.”

        “Hey honey, I am pregnant. ”

        “Ah, ah well ah you are gonna get rid of it , arent’ you? I mean I can’t.”

        “No, I am keeping it, and naming you the father!”

        “I will give you money for the abortion and $1000. How’s that?”

        Men want the abortion choice so they can have fun with no responsibility.

        What I don’t understand about woman is that their right to choose, should include refusing the bum in the first place.
        Now, for PP grant. That should be returned. It is a ruse by PP to further abortions.

        • Neiman

          I find it sad, horrific and hypocritical for women to demand choice, control over their own bodies while they hard heartedly deny that same choice to the helpless, innocent human beings in their own womb. I find it sad when they use words like choice and reproductive freedom as self serving euphemisms for child murder.

          Such women must love Andrew Cuomo, Governor of NY State that, is passing a law to make abortion (baby killing) lawful even in the last day of the last trimester and Obama, who believes it is just fine to partially deliver them and shove scissors into their tiny brains to kill them.

          • Lianne

            So we agree on one thing.

          • SusanBeehler

            What if it is the men demanding this choice? Why are men not being more active in part of the solution? Why are they not taking care of their reproductive responsibilities? Advertisements abound for men to increase their “prowess “,but God forbid we talk to women and youth at risk how to make more informed choices. Why do men have to be forced into court to care for their children? You do know the child support system was built to repay the welfare system because of many men abandoning their responsibilities. Men rarely use planned parenthood or go to any of their program, classes from what I can tell. Someone in a relationship needs to take responsibility and it is usually the woman, because the consequences are the greatest for her.

          • Neiman

            In such a conversation, the focus is naturally on the part of the woman as she has the final say about the fate of her child; but, make no mistake, I do not excuse the fornications of these horn dog cur men, the irresponsibility in not taking an active, mature part like real men in all the decisions, their gross irresponsibility in not providing financial support, in not seeking to marry the women they lay with so irresponsibly. No, please do not think that I am not angry at the way men have behaved historically towards women as sexual objects, mere female instruments for their own masturbation; and get this straight as well – they are equally responsible for the child and they are accomplices if that child is abused in any way or aborted. They are usually the aggressors, they usually do not take responsibility to prevent pregnancy and I condemn their unmanly, cowardly and abusive behavior towards women and their own children.

            Yet, the women, as God calls them, “weaker vessels” in such matters (not all) cannot escape the fact it is they that must consent to abortion and I cannot agree with killing the child.

          • SusanBeehler

            The woman has the power through the law and through what they do with their body when they are pregnant. There is no other way around the “saving” of the child but through the woman. So how do you think you could support a woman to make the choice for life, how could you influence her choice? So how can you influence them NOT to consent to the abortion?

          • Neiman

            Actually, they should not have the power through the law to give a death sentence to a helpless, innocent human being. So, if the country were so inclined they could/should be lawfully restrained or suffer the consequences of their acts. It is murder period.

            However, the country has been long convinced by the feminist movement that the child is but a lump of tissue, not unlike a tumor and that the woman, having the right over her own body can have that tumor excised. Unless the vast majority of the country changes their view, she will maintain the legal right, while never the moral right.

            The country is so far gone morally and the country has so far turned their back on Nature’s God and Christ, even among most so-called Christians that, abortions will continue, they will remain legal and under the Democrats seem to be headed for abortions even after birth. Children are disposable, unless they are slaughtered as at Sandy Hook and their bodies can even be used as a platform for the Democrats to stand upon to take away the Second Amendment.

            No, absent a great spiritual revival and the country is, I think, far beyond revival now, nothing can be done except one young woman at a time and very few of them. Absent that, the mass slaughter of these innocent children will continue, being over 55 million to date.

          • SusanBeehler

            But they do have the power through the law. So how many have you successfully talked out of an abortion? Are you fighting on the “front” line or complaining on a blog that does not reach the intended audience; the woman considering abortion?

          • Neiman

            Having the power does not make it right and it never will.

            People are called to certain ministries and others are not, let each man or woman minister as they are called. I do not protest at abortuaries, but many fine, brave Christians do and I am sure win an occasional battle. But, there are others called to other areas and unless exposed to a potential abortion situation, may never have a direct role. Let each minister as they are called.

            Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul, Peter were never, as far as we know, confronted with a person seeking abortion, but surely in their own way opposed it and helped change the spiritual life of many women that were rescued.

          • SusanBeehler

            “Abortuaries” are not the front line, that is the end of the line. A woman’s heart is the front line.

          • Neiman

            Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

            It is debatable about what is the front line and not worthy of division.

          • Lianne

            Not getting pregnant in the first place. Pregnancy is not a virus. Pregnancy does not occur via the wind blowing around human sperm. Pregnancy is not a disease. It occurs through the activity of two people.

          • SusanBeehler

            Really? I did not know that, thanks for sharing, I will pass the information on to the young women I know. Are you willing to go to NDSU and spread the word and recruit more women to hit the streets and tell the “at risk” woman population it is not a “virus”?

          • Lianne

            AT risk? Who is at risk?

        • SusanBeehler

          Also the abortion is seen as a much better economic choice for the man versus being stuck with child support for 18 years at 12 percent interest if he doesn’t pay. Boys/Men should know getting “lucky” can cost well over $50,000 even if they don’t want the responsibility. They still have to pay. Put in terms like this: do you want to pay $1000 or more than $50,000? Many choose money over life, short term over long term. As a society we need to teach the value of a person is not just a monetary choice and abortion is murder.

          • Lianne

            Is that not what I said? And now you must regurgitate what others post? squeak, squeak, sqeak

          • SusanBeehler

            I missed the memo and the post too? I must not have heard your squeak, sqeak.

        • Roy_Bean

          “What I don’t understand about woman is that their right to choose, should include refusing the bum in the first place.”

          That’s kind of what my attachment says, you should have the right to choose between pistols and revolvers when “the bum” doesn’t understand the spoken word. Planned Parenthood, and the liberal establishment in general, doesn’t support that choice.

          • Lianne

            I thought we were of similar mind, but “Informed choice” has come to generally mean birth control and/or abortion. Very few think of the informed choice as including to tell the bum he is a bum and to take a flying leap. Women have the power to be in control of their bodies and what they do with them, if they choose to.

      • SusanBeehler

        Isn’t this buying into the “labeling” of people and based on that “label” to justify treating them unfairly or to ignore anything valuable they can contribute to society. I have also been supportive of men to make informed choices. Personally I support child support agencies teaching abstinence and responsible parenting to our children.

      • SusanBeehler

        Is the Vatican offering grants for this same type of education?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      NDSU is a state institution.

      I object to state institutions working with Planned Parenthood.

      • Thresherman

        The problem I have with Planned Parenthood is not that they do not do some good things, but they are dishonest about how much of their budget goes to providing different services.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          The “good things” they do is cover for what their primary focus is, which is aborting as many children as possible.

          • SusanBeehler

            Rob when was the last time used Planned Parenthood services? Have you reviewed their materials?

          • Lianne

            When was the last time you shot a gun?

          • SusanBeehler

            At Bible camp

        • Lianne

          The many bad things they do far outway the very few good things that they do. They use those few good things to cover-up what their real objective is—which is abortion.

          • SusanBeehler

            Is this their mission statement or yours?

          • Lianne

            The several hundred thousand abortions by PP speak for themselves.

            Washington Examiner

            In its latest annual report for fiscal year 2011 to 2012, Planned Parenthood reveals that it performed 333,964 abortions in 2011 – a record year for the organization.

            If you support PP, you support abortions.

          • SusanBeehler

            Taking Planned Parenthood’s money for an education program is taking away their funding for an abortion somewhere else. No abortions are performed in North Dakota by Planned Parenthood, ZERO.

          • borborygmi

            Am I wrong , I thought this program/grant money was going to be used to prevent pregnancy, you know no pregnancy no abortion. Before abortions were made ‘legal’ unwanted pregnancy could lead to an illegal abortion. Shouldn’t the elimination of unwanted pregnancies be the focus. Abortions shouldn’t be used as birth control or selective procreation IMO

        • SusanBeehler

          How much of their budget is used in performing abortions?

          • Lianne

            If one dollar is used for abortions, it is too much. I thought you were against abortions.

          • SusanBeehler

            I am against abortion. Only your idea of fighting the fight is the one which will work? How many have you influenced not to have an abortion? Planned Parent was giving us the money and if you don’t get into the trenches, you will not be able to prevent abortion, you are just a noisy “gong” or as you say a squeak. We live in a nation where it is allowed and as a taxpayer in this nation, just living here could be construed as supporting abortion. Why hasn’t anyone tried to bring a constitutional measure about? Representative Cramer might be the person to ask to get this ball rolling.

          • Lianne

            PP gave us money? I didn’t get any money. I have been in the trenches and have talked to teens about teen pregnancies, responsibilities, and how it can change their life for ever. I spoke to young girls and boys. Never ONCE was I given a single solitary penny from anyone.

          • SusanBeehler

            Fair enough giving us the money was probably not the best word choice. Grants I think in terms of giving not paying. It doesn’t matter now because there will be no education program, the people hired will I supposed be fired. Thank you for volunteering to talk to our young girls and boys.

          • Lianne

            I guess I should have capitalized the word ‘us’ because that was where my emphasis was, not whether it was given or paid. And actually, it was given because paid generally implies the work has already been done or is in the process of being done, for instance in “1/2 down and the rest upon completion” of the agreed work.
            and we will have to see if NDSU actually returns the money.

    • Neiman

      I am against PP and liberal educators (most are) teaching “how-to classes” in sodomy and in promoting the homosexual lifestyle as being normal and that in opposition to the values a great many children are taught at home by God fearing parents. I am against them brainwashing children in the virtues of sexual relations outside the marriage bed.

      • SusanBeehler

        Gross, so am I and who is doing that?

        • Neiman

          I have posted many stories over the past few years of just such incidents and almost every school now promotes homosexuality as being normal, hand out condoms even in elementary schools and teach small children how to use them. This is being done in almost every public school.

          • SusanBeehler

            Sorry I have not read these stories. Are we handing out condoms to elementary students in North Dakota? Is this being done in the school you work in? “almost every public school” seems like an exaggeration on your part

          • Neiman

            I am not in North Dakota, but Communist California. As I said, I archive nothing, but a careful research on the internet about such things will reveal it is quite widespread and part of liberal educational tools.

          • Lianne

            You have my sympathies. why do you remain in that part of the country? Of course, it is 10 below with 25-30mph winds here today. I guess that could be one reason.

          • Neiman

            Most of us stay close to family and endure the unendurable out of love for them.

        • Lianne

          Did you not follow all the hub bub Sanstead got last year for trying to get PP seminar to all the teacher’s?

          • SusanBeehler

            Sorry I missed it.

          • Lianne

            What do you mean you missed it? Were you out of the country?

          • SusanBeehler

            I didn’t get your memo

    • Thresherman

      Politics of the issue aside, I find it interesting that the left, which is so found of forcing it’s values on others through the method of government funding, like prohibiting the Boy Scouts from using facilities that receive government monies unless they change their stance on gay scout leaders, is now whining when their tactic is used on them. Seriously, when you go around slapping people in the face, you shouldn’t be surprise when in turn, you get slapped in the face.

      • sbark

        good stuff……
        but notice, pointing out their own hypocricy to the left doesnt work—in their minds they are beyond hypocricy because of the desire to change society, for our own good of course, using our own money against us of course…….and who care what the unintended consequenses will be or have been.
        Its an ideology based on 100% failure of everyday issues……but historically 100% success at bringing down entire societies to their knees.

        • SusanBeehler

          Maybe society should not be on their knees, stand up.

          • sbark

            …..says a person who is content with and enables a ideology of 100% failure.

      • SusanBeehler

        Slapping people in the face is assault.

        • Lianne

          Metaforically speaking is now seen as assault in your eyes?

          • SusanBeehler

            No; physically slapping someone in the face could be considered assault. What I find very disturbing is the sorting of people and placing them in a convenient box; right or left, good or bad, liberal or conservative,pro or anti, Jew or Aryan, slave or master, union or non-union, black or white I especially find it disturbing when the label of “evil” is placed on any person commenting on a blog or in a political discussion. This than gives the someone who is using the label a permission to start treating that person they have labeled as “vermin” and soon it is not long before they are thought of as not really people at all. This is very dangerous to think of our fellow women and men in these terms, these labels. This may be from well-intention people but their actions could help give unintentional power to those who chose to harm. After all isn’t this what women have allowed to happen to their babies, the babies have been reduced to tissue, not a person at all, so than because they do not think of them as a person they are easy to kill, abort. What if we give the choices and the person makes the decision? Abortion is legal and I now believe the best defense is to either take real action through a constitutional amendment or fight at the front-lines with education. Until any one of you can show me this grant was to promote abortion than I think “slapping” is uncalled for.

          • Lianne

            Who was talking about physically slapping anyone besides you?

    • Lianne

      You repeatedly use the incorrect word ‘their’ for the word ‘there’. Anyone can make a mistake once or twice, but you repeatedly make the same error.
      Your statements of ‘I beleive’ or ‘I think’ are followed by nothing but your assumptions which have no facts to back them up.

      • SusanBeehler

        Thank you for pointing out my “their”, “there” problem, I am fully aware I frequently do this, I also do it with the words “here” and “hear” and “you’re”, “your” and substitute do not ask me why the word “are” for “you’re”,”your”. I even sometimes when speaking call my children by another one of my children’s name. I sometimes even place my car keys on the table rather than hang them on my key hook. Humans can and do make simple errors like this frequently of course I do not know this as a “fact” or why, it is my assumption this happens to others because we are all human. I also say “I believe” or “I think” preceding a statement of my opinion. Opinions do not necessarily have to be a fact. So I am trying to give you a heads up, it is my opinion when I say “I believe” or “I think”. Amazing how different and how human we all can be, isn’t it? Would like a law. a rule to punish those who frequently make the same typing error? What would you propose I should do about this typing “error” problem I have? Do you think I should be banned from typing or participating in this blog because of it?

        • Guest Observer

          Let’s take a vote. I vote yea, banishment.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          If making typos and spelling/grammatical mistakes is grounds for being banned from the blog, i guess i’ll have to go too.

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        • Lianne

          ah, cute!

  • sbark

    For the Left’ist Radio/media talking heads to insinuate a actual relationship between “research” and Planned Parenthood is a new low in trying to spin inside an ideology based completly on spin
    Planned parenthood makes their money pushing abortion…..they get govt. money to push and perform abortions.
    …… I noticed PP wasnt mentioned in a rant on Thurs radio show, and lightly mentioned in Friday’s substitute sit in—are they not proud of a Dem’cat –Planned Parenthood symbiotic relationship in N.Dak?

  • Guest

    Rob has an impressively short memory. Back during discussions about the smoking ban, he was quick to point out the majority isn’t right about everything and can’t do whatever they want. Now, when it comes to issues he opposes, he quickly abandons that presently inconvenient point. What a hack!

    • SusanBeehler

      Killing yourself or your family with smoking is a slow death and you can justify it with your addiction. Abortion is much more immediate and gruesome plus the reality you are actually killing your family member is much more visually unappealing. People dying of cigarette smoke is not a very bloody death. I am against killing with cigarettes and through abortion. Both can be justified with a habit but one is much more gory.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I’m not sure why you see the two positions as inconsistent.

      Precisely because public opinion is so fickle is why government ought to be kept small, including a withdrawal from higher Ed.

  • Kevin Flanagan

    Saint Jane Ahlin is having a conniption fit about this!
    http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/387035/group/Opinion/

  • borborygmi

    Hmmm listen to the Tax payers,…..Wait I am a tax payer but I support this program. President Bresciani isn’t listening to me…

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