Third, are we actually paying undercover police officers to stake out airport bathrooms on the off-chance they might be solicited by someone looking for sex? Maybe I’m just a naive rube from fly-over country, but since when has that been a priority?

The detective in his case report writes:

I was working a plain-clothes detail involving lewd conduct in the main men’s public restroom (…) The Airport Police Department has received civilian complaints and has made numerous arrests regarding sexual activity in the public restroom.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/ssi/craig_police_report_082807.pdf

although I’ve liked his position

:bug:
Why Mr… Whistler… I had no idea!

but hopefully he at least doesn’t stand

Oh my….

You do it, I don’t want to catch nobody doing nothing.

:sick:

ewwwww:

Um, the only reason why a person should be charged with lewd conduct is if they did it in a public place. So if the “game” is to tap your foot until someone joins you in your stall in the bathroom at the airport then that’s a legitimate thing for the police to handle.

On the other hand if toe tapping is a way to identify eachother so you can go out on a date that’s nobody’s business.

Considering that this is an airport you could assume that this was something to do during a layover.

And since he’s a Republican, this will be big news.

That’s the only reason it’s gonna be big news? If Joe Biden were arranging for sexual encounters with male undercover police officers in public restrooms… we wouldn’t hear about it? You can’t see an angle in there for a story?

I’m watching a story on a major news channel right now about how Dunkin’ Donuts is making changes to its menu. I think they might have time to talk about… oh, one of the creepiest things I’ve ever heard about a sitting US senator… even if he was a Democrat.

According to his wikipedia page, these allegations have been around for a while. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig#Sexuality)

Rob:

Though the fact that he’s adopted all of his children may be telling in terms of his sexuality.

Wow. And you accuse Woof of being intolerant!

WOW.. I would definitely recommend peeing your pants instead of tapping ones foot like some do to hold off the urge.
I also don’t understand how this can warrant a charge when nothing was said or any money or any act was done for that manner. Dang.. if this is occurring on such numerous accounts why not catch the lewd behavior in action and actually get two perps at once?

1. Innocent until proven guilty.
2. I have zero doubt that this was a setup.

Think of Vitter on the DC Madam’s list. Vitter could not prove it wasn’t him. He didn’t admit guilt but he couldn’t prove a negative so he acted like he’d done it.
Bob Allen same thing, some idle chatter gets mistaken and all of a sudden the media catches it and smells blood in the water, and so he has to act like he’d done it.
Craig will get railroaded by a dishonest cop’s testimony. It was more than foot tapping if you read it, and I think every word of it is invention in a cop’s part. And you know what? In the end, Craig is going to be forced to say he did it when he probably didn’t.

It’s sad and the fact that this stuff happens like clockwork is only proof that people will do ANYTHING to bring down members of our party wherever and whenever they can.

Robin Crenshaw:

Rush made a point once that you don’t see Democrats get caught up in these scandals (or it’s like a 10:1 ratio) because Democrats never profess morals.

Good point. It’s like every other day a prominent Democrat is caught soliciting extra-marital gay sex in a public restroom from an undercover police officer…but when’s the last time you read about that in the paper? But the one time a Republican does it, it’s all over the news. Typical.

I can’t believe he pled guilty though. That kind of shakes my faith here.

“Kind of” shakes your faith… I mean, not enough to keep you from saying the incident was “made up (…) garbage charge”… but shaken a little, no doubt.

I’m waiting for Robin’s retraction. But I do have to say that I wouldn’t want to get caught tapping my foot in a bathroom cuz I don’t want anyone thinking I’m a republican. Ha! (stolen from somewhere a bit ago.) Couldn’t resist/snark/

Whistler, typical of you to consider what Craig was doing “simply toetapping”. He plead guilty. Clinton got a free pass? are you kidding me? It was all Clinton, 24 hours a day. You know it’s important to keep that brain working when we get older or we forget. “Completely overlooked his scandal”? You are just too too funny. I know it’s late but come on Whistler even you don’t believe what you just wrote.

Rob:
Abraham Lincoln: “Mr. President and Gentlemen of the Convention. If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could then better judge what to do, and how to do it. We are now far into the fifth year, since a policy was initiated, with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to slavery agitation. Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only, not ceased, but has constantly augmented. In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached, and passed.

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.” I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.

Either the opponents of slavery, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new — North as well as South.”

I believe this same wisdom applies to your states rights idea regarding homosexual marriage. Many liberal states would approve homosexual marriage, while the conservative ones shall not and the moderate leaning states will be divided. The tension created by a nation divided about homosexual married couples moving from state to state will, rather soon I think, force the states in this country to all either recognize homosexual marriage or only a very few or none shall. To have a hodge podge of laws in various states regarding homosexual marriage is to my mind, a wholly untenable idea. So, if you believe this is a states right issue, I believe you are wrong and you will be, in effect, approving of homosexual marriage being recognized as a national civil right.

I believe we will soon tip over the edge into becoming another nation altogether than I knew from childhood; with there no longer being even a pretense at any common moral standards of right and wrong; and that tipping point will, in my opinion, result in the destruction of this nation for all time and your children will not grow up in the United States of America at all.

The very idea of trying to pick someone up in any bathroom is not quite right. The smell and germ thing would be a BIG concern for me. PeeeeUwwww! AND what is the foot tapping thing about? Creepy!

Maybe I’m just a naive rube from fly-over country, but since when has that been a priority?

Since those hypocrits Newt Gingerich and Kenneth (Porno) Starr tried cutting into a sitting President on a private matter that was none our GD business!

GOP: The party of hypocrits and thieves.

FE

I’m not saying either is ok, only that they do compare.

Let’s keep in mind here that the strongest evidence we have is his conviction in Minnesota; I read the Idaho paper’s article, and the “evidence” is a bunch of more or less anonymous sources, countered by those who were named, including his fraternity brothers and an openly homosexual neighbor.

Sorry, but if I were a lawyer, I wouldn’t take a case like this to court. It’s likely that something else will come out soon, but maybe, just maybe, we should wait for it before rhetorically stringing him up?

And on the bathroom thing; as the father of a son (and four daughters), I am glad that there are people who are taking steps to end the use of bathrooms as rendevous places for sex. I am equally glad that I’m not one of those undercover/behind doors officers. Ewwwww!!!!

Whistler writes:

On the other hand if toe tapping is a way to identify eachother so you can go out on a date that’s nobody’s business.

I don’t know about you Whistler, but I’ve never gotten a “date” by tapping my foot in a women’s bathroom.

Is this the new way to get dates? Why haven’t we heard about this new technique? It wasn’t in Glamour or Cosmopolitan mags or GQ. Hmmm…..

Fasteddie753 – GOP: The party of hypocrits and thieves.

Thieves? I understand your hypocrite charge given that we’re talking about a hypocritical individual, but thieving? You’re just smack-talking.

Thanks for taking the bait though.

I would rather not know about Politicians sex life.

No, Partisans such as yourself gave Clinton a free pass and did everything they could to protect him.

I caught you puzzled and you’re trying to lie about what I said. I didn’t say that Clinton got a free pass.

As far as Neiman’s point and federalism, that’s a touchy point. Due to the privileges and immunities clause of the Constitution you can’t really allow one state to have gay marriage without forcing the rest of the states to recognize it.

As far as we know he was toe tapping and that’s it. I’m not at all surprised at your selective outrage.

Politicians who have homosexual encounters and vote against gay
issues are news.

Sex outside of marriage is news when a public figure is involved.

If you want privacy have sex alone.

It’s not like no one had a clue
2006

A hypocritical senator’s closet bit the dust today
Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Another senator who sleeps with men yet casts votes for legislation that discriminates against LGBT citizens has been revealed, courtesy of Mike Rogers. He reported it on The Ed Schultz Show today.

Who is it?

Idaho’s Larry Craig.

Craig on the issues:

* Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Not everyone Surprised

Looks like another open seat in the Senate restroom.

Idaho United States Senate election, 2008

In Idaho, Senator Larry Craig has not indicated if he will run for a fourth term.

1. Innocent until proven guilty.

Craig pled guilty.

I don’t know about you Whistler, but I’ve never gotten a “date” by tapping my foot in a women’s bathroom.

Hey, it takes all types Puzzled.

And I thought we conservatives were supposed to be the prudes.

Of course, picking up dates in bathrooms isn’t exactly the sort of behavior I like to see in a Senator. And his cheating on his wife is unacceptable.

Politicians who have homosexual encounters and vote against gay
issues are news.

Right. Because you can’t be gay if you don’t adhere to liberal dogma on gay rights issues.

How tolerant of you, Poodle.

Davey,

If Joe Biden were arranging for sexual encounters with male undercover police officers in public restrooms… we wouldn’t hear about it?

Well, Joe Biden is a Presidential candidate and most people know who he is.

I’m not saying this isn’t news-worthy. I’m just that the media considers it more news-worthy because it’s a Republican. Meaning you won’t have to read ten paragraphs into an article to learn which party Larry Craig is a member of.

Wow. And you accuse Woof of being intolerant!

Can you describe to me which part of my comment is intolerant of gays? Noting that a man married a divorcee and adopted her children as a possible clue to his sexuality after he got caught soliciting sex from a man in a bathroom is hardly intolerant.

As I said in the post, and you are apparently choosing to ignore, I couldn’t care less if Larry Craig wants to have sex with men. I just wish he wasn’t cheating on his wife when he did so.

Assuming, of course, they didn’t have some sort of private arrangement.

Is that an Idaho potato in your pocket

or are you happy to see me?

Glad to see the resident lefties are handling this with maturity and tact.