Hypocrite Democrats Tuck A Bit Of Anti-Trade Protectionism Into New Spending Bill

• February 24, 2009

One thing that has been fascinating to me over the last several years is observing the Democrats be a bunch of two-faced hypocrites when it comes to trade and illegal immigration.
On one hand, the liberals don’t want to do anything to close our southern border to illegal immigration. And they don’t want to do anything to catch and deport the illegals currently in the country. In fact, they seem to want to facilitate the illegals staying here by giving them things like driver’s licenses and access to our massive entitlement systems. They claim that they don’t like illegal immigration, but say that we should be compassionate and let the people stay here because they’d be so much worse off in their home countries. And, oh yeah, their big-labor puppet masters would love to unionize all the illegal immigrants and collect millions upon millions in dues from them.
On the other hand, however, they also don’t want to trade with Mexico. They don’t want to do anything to make it easier for goods and services to come into America from Mexico of vice versa. They don’t even want to allow Mexican truckers, carrying loads of Mexicans goods, into our country to deliver them to the American businesses/individuals that bought them even though that would benefit both Americans and Mexicans.
Case in point, check out how the liberals have stuck legislation to end the practice of letting Mexican truckers into America in their latest (and thoroughly bloated) spending bill:

Hoping for quick action, the leadership has sought to avoid controversial legislative riders on social issues. But in a victory for the Teamsters union, the 1100-page-plus bill would effectively shut down a Bush-era program allowing selected Mexican-owned truck companies to operate within the United States — beyond the commercial zone along the U.S.- Mexico border.

So, illegal immigrants sneaking across the border and leaching off our entitlement system is ok. But Mexican truckers coming across the border to do their job, and stimulate our economy by making the transfer of goods between our country and theirs cheaper, isn’t ok.
Make sense? Of course not. But all the Democrats care about is unionized truckers getting to make a bundle by picking up the loads Mexican truckers have to drop at the border.
Be nice if the Democrats put the interests of the country ahead of the interests of the unions for a change.

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Politics, The Loony Left

http://Array Brent

Here is where Pat Buchanan chimes in, blaming trade with Mexico for “sucking” factory jobs into Mexico, while simultaneously blaming trade with Mexico for Mexican immigration in the United States — totally ignoring that the trade with Mexico creates jobs and higher wages in Mexico, thereby reducing the incentive to immigrate.
Spartacus

And ill bet they would even have to read English

I don’t know that lacking a firm grasp on reading english would impede a truck driver from Mexico, or any other country, considering most road signs have conformed to international standards for 30+ years. Not to mention logistical coordinators for trucking companies plan routes for truckers…something about trucking companies liking to know where their trucks are and the loads they’re responsible for.
Buzz

Non-union salaries are base on skill, productivity and company earnings

No, non-union wages are based on union wages. You will never make more than us. If we get a raise you might get a raise. But if we take a cut you will for sure take a cut. The owner CHARGES 10% less than UNION, pays his men 30% OF UNION wages, spends the winter in Florida in his condo that you paid for, and your still happy as a pig in shit to lap his balls(skill)every time you want a little raise. And if your a good doggy, who starts work early for nothing, works through lunch, for nothing, works on Saturday and Sunday for straight time(productivity) and he can still afford that new car and boat(company earnings), he might just give it to you….. right in the ass!
Buzz

Explain to me how a union would in any way benefit me at my job.

Well being able to negotiate a wage package instead of begging for one, I could go on but whats the point. I’m also a UNION electrician, so I could show you my W2′s but you already know that I make substantially more than you do. Not sure how you get paid what you do anyway, were the ones that figure out how to get the job done despite the crappy prints you guys send us. That’s OK, gives me something to do while im relaxing in the trailer anyway. EE,pfft.
Brent

Ha, Rob, good points. I think we should recognize that illegal immigration, while problematic in important respects, is still something that Americans should be quietly proud. It is apparently THAT much better to live in America than in Mexico…

Unfortunately, like we are already seeing, as we destroy this country, the illegal immigration phenomenon will start to solve itself.
docdave

Well being able to negotiate a wage package

So you aren’t man enough to negotiate your own wage. Non-union salaries are base on skill, productivity and company earnings while union scale is based on how much the union can ream out of the employer.
Buzz

So you would rather have some fucking dirt bag Mexican off the street, driving 80,000 pounds of steel down our Interstates than a licensed, drug tested, regulated American taxpayer?

It will always be cheaper to have third world people do work than Americans. So what is your fucking point? Is it that we should not work at all and have the scum of the world do the work for us, or we should make three dollars an hour also? Your logic is unbelievable.
Spartacus

It is amazing to me that you all will ALWAYS back a Republican idea no matter how outrageous it is.

It’s amazing to me that you managed to read half of the first sentence in my comment. I would have been truly amazed if you had demonstrated the ability to read the whole comment. There are organizations out there, buzz, that provide free tutoring services to illiterate adults, but I guess telling you in text is a waste of my time.
http://www.moszer.net/ Moszer

Well being able to negotiate a wage package instead of begging for one, I could go on but whats the point. I’m also a UNION electrician, so I could show you my W2′s but you already know that I make substantially more than you do. Not sure how you get paid what you do anyway, were the ones that figure out how to get the job done despite the crappy prints you guys send us. That’s OK, gives me something to do while im relaxing in the trailer anyway. EE,pfft.

Ahh HA! I think I know who you are. I kept hearing about this arrogant prick who’s off-his-rocker pro union and an electrician from a guy I know back home. Do you live in Mandan?

Anyway, back on topic. So your justification is that I somehow have to beg for my salary and you don’t have to stoop to my level to get yours because you belong to a union? That is the best argument you have to convince me that a union is benefial? Your shot was insulting me and demeaning my career choice? Alright, I’m not going to waste any more time debating this with you.

BTW, I don’t send print to electricians. I’m an embedded systems guy, meaning I help design parts that go in electronic devices. Ya know, like the computer you are using to make an ass out of yourself.
Spartacus

were the ones that figure out how to get the job done despite the crappy prints you guys send us.

Union electrician or arsonist?
http://www.moszer.net/ Moszer

Defiantly, we would all be better off working 70 hours a week with no overtime pay, no benefits, and at minimum wage.

SIGN ME UP!!!!!

After reading your comments I thought, man I should debate this guy on the merits of unions but I’m guessing I would be more productive talking at a wall. Here goes anyway.

I’m an Electrical Engineer and work in a completely union free company. We are all paid based on our worth to the company and what the MARKET determines the going rate for our SKILL SET is. If the boss decided to pay us all minimum wage or force us all to work 70 hour weeks, you know what we would do? Quit and find another job. You see he knows he has to take care of his employees or they will find somewhere else to work. The employees don’t need a union to get this message across either.

We don’t need some “take 10 percent off the top” union guys around to make sure we get paid a living wage. We earn it.

Explain to me how a union would in any way benefit me at my job.
Buzz

If Bush were half the union-buster you seem to think he was this country would be a much better place.

Defiantly, we would all be better off working 70 hours a week with no overtime pay, no benefits, and at minimum wage.

SIGN ME UP!!!!!
Bhost1

Despite the fact that the Big 3 automakers have been so thoroughly destroyed by the unions that work for them that they have to come begging for billions per month just to survive, the Democratic Party is getting ready to try to ram a card check bill through the Senate that would expand the presence of unions all across the country. That’s like finding a turd in the punch bowl and just tossing it into the lemonade.
deadrody

Wow, are YOU a jackass or what ? You know that unions represent only 12% of the workforce, right ? And that I defy you to find ANYBODY that works 70 hours per week at minimum wage, with no overtime and no benefits. The sad fact for you and your union thugs is that this is the very reason that unions are a complete anachronism. Labor laws have long since abolished any concern with workers being taken advantage of.

Defiantly, we would all be better off working 70 hours a week with no overtime pay, no benefits, and at minimum wage.
Buzz

I don’t know that lacking a firm grasp on reading english would impede a truck driver from Mexico, or any other country,

It is amazing to me that you all will ALWAYS back a Republican idea no matter how outrageous it is. If this was an Democrat program you would find a hundred things that would be wrong with it.
Buzz

the Mexican truckers driving on our roads would have to be in vehicles meeting our codes and would themselves have to be a sober and qualified as American drivers.

Sure they would. And ill bet they would even have to read English and promise to go home when they get done delivering there load. Yea. Just another of many union busting tactics by your buddy, good old boy Bush.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

If Bush were half the union-buster you seem to think he was this country would be a much better place.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Exactly right, Brent.

My proposed solution to the illegal immigration problem is a “tall fence with a wide gate.”

I don’t think we should tolerate illegal immigration in any way, shape or form whether it be looking the other way when the cross the border or giving them amnesty when they’re here.

That being said, I think we could reduce illegal immigration by both making it easier to legally immigrate into this country and by making it easier for our two countries to trade.

Mexico would benefit from increased trade with America (as would America) and that would lift economic conditions down there and relieve much of the motivation to come here illegally in the first place.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Actually, you foul-mouthed racist, the Mexican truckers driving on our roads would have to be in vehicles meeting our codes and would themselves have to be a sober and qualified as American drivers.

I know your union bosses say otherwise, but I don’t think we should ever underestimate Big Labor’s propensity to lie for the sake of its own self-interest.

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