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Tuesday, August 29, 2006

Hyper-Active Isn’t Hyper-Good

I have noticed a trend among people on the radio, people in business, people in ministry. Many of these people are just plain hyper.

ADHD is the modern term for this syndrome.

Have you ever seen Glen Beck’s program on Headline News? Very entertaining, but he has an attention span of a two-year-old child.

I have a pastor friend I'd like to talk about. He never reads this blog so I’m safe. He is so hyper that he tries to do three things at once and always fails. When he talks to me (which I try to avoid) he is constantly looking over my shoulder. I don’t know how he stays married. Frankly, he barely does and I understand her frustration.

I do business with some landscapers who are so hyper that they harass me to my limits.

I have learned not to sanction or encourage this behavior. Their inability to concentrate, stay focused or do deliberative consideration is a weakness that most people don’t grasp. I am happy that among most of my good friends there are few who I allow to abuse me with the inattentiveness the ADHD lifestyle seems to encourage. If you don’t pay attention, I’ll ignore you too.

I have had the misfortune to have people under me who were this kind of talk-talk-talk rattle-on type who couldn’t listen if you forced them. I have sometimes had to grab them by the hand, look them straight in the eye, yell at them, say "stop talking and listen!" Then they usually start talking about why they talk so much. Then I yell, "shut up!"

Cruel? Maybe, but is it more cruel to sanction this kind of aberrant behavior by ignoring it? Particularly if this person works for you? I think real cruelty is not dealing with it here and now. By the way, those few who I've had confrontations with about this are better now. They finally shut up.

The real crime is these people don’t develop the social skills of listening or hearing. They are so distracted by so much that they can’t take direction, can’t follow a series of instructions, can’t reason without talking past the point. It’s a handicap in society to be one of these poor souls.

I could blame it on all the gadgets we live with. I could blame it on TV. I could blame the school system...but what I really blame is a lack of discipline. I blame lazy parents. I blame a culture that seems to reward and encourage this kind of inanity.

Comments

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I agree.
Chop wood, carry water.

realitybasedbob on August 29, 2006 at 06:58 am
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And you claim to be godly and walk in his steps.  God would never treat his fellow man the way you do. Remember:  “that you do unto the least of my brethren you do unto me.” I run from religious zealots like you who preach one thing and do another.

Puzzlefeet on August 29, 2006 at 07:05 am

P: When you send in your union goons to put pressure on some business to knuckle under to your demands, do you follow that scripture?  I doubt it.  When you spew hate at those who disagree with you, do you follow that scripture? I doubt it.  Thou art a hypocrite.  Shame on you for attacking the religion of another!


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on August 29, 2006 at 07:12 am
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Oh Puleeze, r108, How dare I point out his religious hypocrisy?  I dare and will continue to do so, just like I point out your lies.  Live with it!

Puzzlefeet on August 29, 2006 at 07:26 am

Since you are the liar, it is probably futile to point out that by pointing to the hypocrisy of Gene, and using religious justification for it, you are illustrating your own hypocrisy.  Do you really feel that concern for others when you are forcing unionism on some employer?  I doubt it.  When you are spewing hate at me or Gene, are you mindful of your professed concern for others? I doubt it. When you judge Gene, do you realize that you are being judged yourself?  I doubt it.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on August 29, 2006 at 07:35 am

P: BTW, I don’t consider Gene to be a hypocrite; I consider him human, and courageous to confess to his own human imperfection.  Since you must be perfect, perhaps you could exhibit a little compassion from your superior and lofty perch to some poor human wretch, but no.  Your self-righteous, holier-than-thou attitude comes from pure hatred.  Shame on you!


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on August 29, 2006 at 07:42 am
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Gene,

Actually, this rant of yours is kind of the same thing. Complaining is equally irritating. But I didn’t come here to pick on you but I do disagree with one of your conclusions.

You state that you blame a lack of discipline and lazy parents. I disagree. I have three children. Two of them are adopted. One of my children falls under the hyper definition that you mention. The other two do not. We raised all our children the same and trust me, we are not lazy parents. In fact, my wife’s nick name is “Guido the Enforcer” if that gives you any hint of her style.

That being said, I think genetics plays a stronger role in this behavior than parenting.
Environment only reinforces existing personality traits, positively or negatively.

Mickey on August 29, 2006 at 07:43 am
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R108, following the law of this country only applies to righties like you.  You get to decide what laws are righteous and which ones aren’t. 

Why do you hate Americans so much R108?  Obviously you are the only one entitled to give your righteous blessings on other’s opinions. 

You lie when some one disagrees with you and defend your buddies’s lies as well.  I don’t ever expect honor or compassion from you or your buddies who claim the Lord is on their side. 

Sorry, once again, I run from religious zealots and righties like you who tell everyone they are wrong and you are right always.  Please carry on.

Puzzlefeet on August 29, 2006 at 07:58 am

P:  “R108, following the law of this country only applies to righties like you.What law are you talking about?  Gene was expressing his opinion about hyper people. You get to decide what laws are righteous and which ones aren’t.Again, you lie.  I said no such thing.

Why do you hate Americans so much R108?The only Americans I hate are the ones who aid the terrorists by undermining the President. Obviously you are the only one entitled to give your righteous blessings on other’s opinions.Another lie.  I said no such thing.  I give my opinion, just like you gave yours about Gene.

You lie when some one disagrees with you and defend your buddies’s lies as well.Name one lie.  Gene wasn’t lying; he was telling the truth about the way he feels and the way he acts toward hyper people.  Get over yourself. I don’t ever expect honor or compassion from you or your buddies who claim the Lord is on their side.Again you lie.  I never said any such thing.  I just called you on your self-righteous judgementalism.

Sorry, once again, I run from religious zealots and righties like you who tell everyone they are wrong and you are right always.I am neither a religious zealot nor a “rightie”.  Two lies there. Please carry on.”
Thank you; I will.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on August 29, 2006 at 08:09 am
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Sorry Gene, what did you say?

2Hotel9 on August 29, 2006 at 10:56 am
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That was fun. Now to topic. In many cases you are right, Gene. I see this quite often, and do not deal with it. Explain something once. Move on to the next item. Another behavior I do not put up with is people constantly saying"huh?" when you speak to them in a normal tone of voice. You have an actual hearing problem, OK. I will take the necessary action to ensure you hear what I say. We are in a high background sound location, ditto. You consistently don’t pay attention, or, my real favorite, you think it is funny to make people repeat themselves, I stop talking to you. And it works.

2Hotel9 on August 29, 2006 at 11:15 am

Actually, Puzzle is right.  I am kind of a hard case.  “Mean Gene” they used to call me.  Still do I guess. 

You (I) can repent of a great deal, just not my DNA.

I am who I was made of.  So, if I’m a little bit hard core its as it is. 

The kind of ministry I do is mostly in the office of the Prophet.  That has far less to do with telling you about what will happen next month and telling people what God says about them.  That’s mostly positive unless it’s not.

I stand in the mold of Old Testement Prophets who really irritated the Kings of the day.  I still do.

Sometimes I don’t like that about the gift I carry.  I wish I were more Pastorlike.  I’m not. My purpose seems to be to call people as they must be called.  That doesn’t always make me popular. 

In fact I scare the heck out of people.  They think I can see inside them.  I can’t (always). 

But, Puzzle is right.  Even Jesus called the hypocrite Pharisies Snakes and vipers. 

Not exactly nicey nicey.

Our view of Jesus needs fine tuning.


the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Gene on August 29, 2006 at 11:52 am

Gene: No beheading or stoning, though.  Right?


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on August 29, 2006 at 12:01 pm

An Amazing Update.

Yesterday Tuesday I get a call from the Pastor Friend I mention.

He’s calling to talk policy in his fellowship, he has another cell phone which rings 3 times while he’s talking to me and trying to drive, the radio is blaring and he’s reading a map. 

Needless to say I didn’t have his undivided attention although I tried to give him mine.

And he kept saying, “Sorry Gene” when he would force me to listen to someone elses conversation on the other phone.  Then he had the audacity to say, “what were we talking about?”. 

He had forgotten.  And, HE CALLED ME.

That gives you a clue as to how important he thinks I am.  How much he values our “friendship”.  I pity his parish.

Remember this all happens when he calls ME.  I’m not angry, it’s just an example.

And believe me, this kind of self importance will be the death of him. 

I will not be treated pejoratively. Frankly these inattentive self centered people think they are being caring.  One of them said to me once after a particualrly bad row with another person, “But Gene, I’m the most caring person I know”.  I had to contain myself.

So, Beheading and Stoning R108?  Not Yet, but some days,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


the AVATAR
Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this could be their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Gene on August 30, 2006 at 05:21 pm
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Gene, it seems that this really has nothing to do with ADHD, it has to do with “Respect”. 

It is simply disrespectful to be treated in this manner.  I would simply have said,” I can see you are preoccupied right now so when you pull over, turn the radio off, let the cell phone ring to the mail box, then call me back.”

Puzzlefeet on August 30, 2006 at 05:30 pm
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Gene la Mean, you missed a golden opportunity! You could have taught him a very valuable lesson. Oh, hell, who am I kidding. Sounds like he has not the attention span to learn anything anyway. Carry on, move along, nothing to see here folks. Guy I work with is constantly trying to do EVERYTHING at once. I feel your pain, Gene.

2Hotel9 on August 30, 2006 at 05:35 pm
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