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Like Howard Dean 4 years ago, Huckabee’s problem is the nature of the Iowa caucuses.  Rather than a primary election, the caucuses require that each candidate get as many of his (or her) supporters out as possible.  The target then, has to be those supporters and not the general voting public.  By pushing too hard at his base of supporters (Evangelicals), Huckabee is turning off other voters and actually engendering “blowback” support for other candidates, Romney and Thompson in particular.

I’m betting that Huckabee will have basically peaked the day after the Iowa caucuses.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Religious bigottry.  Mormons aren’t Christians and cannot be trusted.  They are easily duped by this cult.

And notice how Evangelicals and Huckabee are not running out and trying to distance themselves from these comments.  Wonder why?  Because this is actually what Huckabee and his supporters believe?

If “you think religion, especially Christianity, is being marginalized by ACLU and other organizations” then “you would be piling on” if you vote for Mitt Romney because “Mormonism is a cult. In case I didn’t type it clearly enough … Mormonism is a cult."…

..."going to campaign against Mitt Romney. He’s a very educated man—there’s a lot of very educated people that are Mormon. Orrin Hatch is a Mormon; he’s been in the Senate for like 100 years. But if you’re going to be in positions of responsibly it does trouble me.”

As first reported on the Iowa Caucus Cooler blog, Adamson wrote that “based on my knowledge of Mormonism, I would not trust him as my president as he might be fooled into believing most anything. How could he possibly be trusted to negotiate with Islamic radicals? He might believe Muslim and Mormons are the same, just like he tries to pass off Mormons as Christians.”

Here is the highlight of his e-mail.  How do you like that.  Can’t trust a damned Mormon to be President.  Belongs to a Cult. 

This is what Huckabee is tapping into and what a great many Huckabee supporters and Evangelicals in general believe.

Eh, let’em fight like children while Fred continues to look like the only adult in the race.

BTW, I don’t consider Mormons to be Christians either.  That’s not religious bigotry, it’s a doctrinal disagreement.  Being a Mormon, however, won’t prevent from voting for a candidate as long as he is the best candidate.

Some of my best

friends are cultish.

Unfortunately, there are alot of Huckabigots pushing for his nomination.  Some advice for conservatives...there are two viable candidates who are conservative, Mitt and Fred.  Pick one!

” Tom Tancredo is very very upset that someone in Iowa is trying to use Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, and its controversial teachings, against Romney. Tancredo is so upset at a “questionnaire” that’s circulating in the state, saying all sorts of wild things about Romney’s Mormonism, that Tancredo felt it important to republish the entire questionnaire on his campaign Web site three days ago, to ensure, uh, that the slurs spread no further.”
The Best Is Yet To Come

All of the religious whackos are mentally ill, including Muslims, Mormons, Christian fundamentalists, whatever. Same nuts, different day.

The only religions that aren’t whacked are the liberal churches such as the United Church of Christ, some of the ELCA Lutherans, the Episcopal Church, the Unitarian Church, and maybe a few more of the moderate protestants.

All of the religious whackos are mentally ill...blah, blah blah.

That’s funny; I think the socialists/commies/fascists/collectivists/totalitarians are mentally ill, in that they believe that which is not connected to reality.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

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Call Me The Most Reverend WOOF

The question is,
Do you feel lucky?

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Sniff, sniff.  Hmmm, I smell fresh baiting. Socialist must have been here....

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

If you actually feel this way, how dumb do you have to be to not realize that coming out and saying that does more harm to your candidate than not?

Because you are an atheist you cannot possibly understand this; but many people in this world have very deep core, spiritual beliefs and they choose to stand for the Truth, as they have the light to see the Truth, without first making crass political calculations or even considering if it might harm their lives first.

I don’t know this person so I can only react generally and with charity. This person believes in Christ as the only way unto Salvation with all his/her heart and out of love for the lost and those caught up in false religions chooses to speak the truth without fear or favor, solely because it is the Truth.

You don’t believe it is the Truth and that is your choice, you choose to see things mostly through a political prism, calculating what it takes to achieve your political goals and I am not only saying that is your right, I am not viewing that in a negative way. In like manner, I think that although this person may not do your political cause much good, at least they deserve respect for speaking the Truth honestly, as they see the Truth.

Paul spoke the Truth to Kings and Priests without fear or favor and died for His faith in the Truth in Christ, can any disciple be considered a true disciple and do any less? I think not!

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Acknowledging the social pressure that was felt by a few, every Mormon I have met has chosen the religion of their own free will and can leave the religion whenever they want to. Christian and Islamic religions have been forcefully imposed on millions of people. Muslims can not leave their religion unless they want to risk dieing.

The only appropriate questions are:

Does he support my right to choose whatever religion I wish as guaranteed by the Constitution?

and

Would he favor Mormons over people of other religions for government positions and contracts?

You get to decide if you believe his answers.

Now ask people of the Islam faith the same questions and decide whether or not you believe them.

It is unbelievable that you are bitchin over Huckabee and the evangelical vote.  The republicons have fomented the religious vote for the past 8 years and now they are picking their candidate, Huckabee based on the past 8 years of religious values voting.  the republicons sent operatives in the evangelical churches in mass for Bush.

You may not like it now that they are picking a candidate you don’t want, but what goes around comes around, and boy is it coming around.  Good Luck republicons.

Oh and Freddie doesn’t stand a chance, just not religious enough for the evangelicals.  He doesn’t support Terry Shiavo, lobbied for an abortion group, isn’t a regular churchgoer, doesn’t want a prolife constitutional amendment.  Why would and evangelical support Fred over Huckabee.  The evangelical republicons have found their Christian republicon nominee.

And to the person who wrote that Huckabee will peak after Iowa.  One doesn’t peak after winning the first primary, one gets more mojo.  Live with it.

godolight - what are you reading?

Live with what? An ass like you?

likwidshoe, namecalling?  Not very becoming.  But ok, be that as it may.  Live with the fact that you republicons fomented the evangelical values voters and now that they are voting their values with Huckabee, you I in the general sense)are trying to claim the past 8 years weren’t about values voters. 

Live with it.

likwidshoe, namecalling?  Not very becoming.

Hah! Whatever, “republicon” boy.

Live with the fact that you republicons fomented the evangelical values voters...

You’re telling this to an atheist (Rob) and an agnostic (me). Assume much?

Live with it.

Live with what? An assuming hypocritical ass like you?

I don’t think the Mormon issue is going to prevent Romney from winning the election. While there is a vocal subset of evangelical voters who tend to have more bigoted views, most Americans will likely select a candadite based on character and issues.

Also, do not underestimate the LDS vote. Only 14% of Mormons live in Utah. Do not forget that Mormon pioneers settled and founded Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco and hundreds of other western cities. the influence is still strong.

The only reason they are not noticed is because evangelical and LDS values are identical and Mormons vote in line with evangelicals. I personally know of many Latter-Day Saints who are deeply offended by Huckabee’s crusade (whisper and inuendo) to remind evangelicals that “Mormons are different.” I would anticipate a large exodus of LDS voters from the GOP if they feel for one second that the GOP and Huckabee snubbed Romney solely because of his faith.

LDS fathers do not like the idea of telling their sons that they can go to Harvard, become one of the most successful CEO’s in America, even be governor or Mass., but forget about ever being President son because bigoted evangelicals will cut you off at the pass.

No, I don’t think LDS parents are looking forward to that conversation with their children.

If you doubt the LDS population can influence the race if they separate from the GOP pack you should read the cover story from today’s “USA Today” newspaper where it points out that the 3 fastest growing states since 2000 were UT, AZ, and NV, all heavily LDS states. Again, only 14% of LDS are in Utah. There are millions of LDS scattered across the country, particularly in the west. They are going to flock to vote nationwide in primaries which typically only have a small turnout of GOP activists.

Here is a great post about why evangelicals should vote for Romney:

http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/why.php