How Long Will It Take For Obama’s Decision To Close Gitmo To Burn Him?

During the election Obama promised on multiple occasions to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility currently being used to house detainees in the war on terror. Here’s an example of what he said:

I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantánamo, and I will follow through on that. I’ve said repeatedly that America doesn’t torture and I’m going to make sure that we don’t torture. Those are part and parcel of an effort to regain America’s moral stature in the world.

I’m wondering if Obama won’t live to regret those words.
On one hand, if he follows through and closes down Guantanamo – thus releasing the noxious terrorists kept there back into the world – I’d be willing to bet that it’d be a matter of a few months before those terrorists were making headlines again by having been caught participating in more terrorism and attacks.
On the other hand, if Obama doesn’t follow through and close Guantanamo – or if he pulls a Clintonesque move like closing that detention facility but moving the detainees to some other location, well now that’s not really the sort of hope ‘n change he campaigned on now is it? Remember, Gitmo has become an issue so important to the left that the orange jumpsuits worn by the detainees there have become de rigeur at anti-war events across the country.
I’ll readily admit that there are no simple solutions for Gitmo. I think the status quo is far from optimal, but I think Obama is about to learn that throwing rocks at the decisions other people have to make is much easier than having to make those decisions yourself.

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  • http://Array daniel

    I agree with Kurt send them to half way homes in DC or in San Francisco they would be happy there.

  • ellinas

    Obama has never in his political life been forced to be accountable for what he says.

    Sphagnum on November 22, 2008 at 06:10 pm

    No politician is ever held accountable\forced to be accountable for what he/she says.
    They may be held accountable for what they do though.

  • atease

    How long until this decision will burn Barry?

    Depends on how fast they make it to the nearest battlefield or weapon to wreck havoc.

    atease

  • http://vdvfamily.com/ Sphagnum

    Obama has never in his political life been forced to be accountable for what he says. He’s grand-standed in various legislatures and when things go bad, he has plenty of room to hide. Now that he’s an EXECUTIVE, he’s gonna get a quick lesson in accountability….

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Can you cite something or do you just prefer to traffic in rumors.

    – Lying asshole, making a joke?

    That’s hilarious, especialy coming from a proven liar like you. Downright hilarious.

    Tell us again how Bush listened in on EVERYTHING. That would really be the icing on the lying cake, you lying piece of shit.

  • http://forums.kikizo.com/ Eddie_the_Hated

    Yes,

    I agree with Rob. I really hope these suspected terrorists don’t get a fair trial.

    In a fair trial, the guilty are convicted, the innocent are released.

    1)Are you against fundamental human rights, or are you just an ignorant piece of shit?

    A)Absolutely.
    B)See answer A.
    C)Plea the fifth.

    We have dozens of convicted felons pulled off of death row yearly, declared innocent. In a situation as hectic and chaotic as a warzone, are you telling me that, without exception, every person encarcerated at Gitmo is without a doubt guilty?

    If nothing else, you need a lesson in probability.

    If that happens, who knows how many could get released?

    However many are declared innocent in a court of law, as exonerated by hard evidence, not hearsay.

    Why should I risk my life just so a possible criminal can get a fair trial by a jury of his peers? Not in this country, Ali Baba…these colors don’t run!

    Jingoist racist fuck.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Goon : if they are let loose I hope they let them loose around the DC area and they get killed there trying to blow up the white house . we don’t need to lend a helping hand to our enemies but that is what is happening . what a sick perverted bunch of idiots that are running this show today in Washington.

    Good call, please don’t release them in our community.

  • http://www.seefeld.com/de/orte/reith.php Reith günstige Ferienwohnungen

    terrorist are terrorist, they kill so why pity on them, just kill em all.

  • Wing Chun Geologist

    Didn’t the Supreme Court say that Gitmo should be closed?

    I don’t remember the ruling exactly, but I think what it said was that the government had to give the terrorists a trial.

  • welder4

    if they are let loose I just hope they wind up in DC and do their thing there ,.

  • thetodd

    I agree with Rob. I really hope these suspected terrorists don’t get a fair trial. If that happens, who knows how many could get released? Why should I risk my life just so a possible criminal can get a fair trial by a jury of his peers? Not in this country, Ali Baba…these colors don’t run!

  • di butler

    The question should be, where are those buttheads going to go if their own countries don’t want them back. I can’t believe anyone really wants them here.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u Gman

    Apparently a federal court ruled that 5 of these 6 folks were held without sufficient evidence.

    Oops! Sorry for taking those 5 years from you, folks.

    Yeah, and 2 of them who were released, were later killed on the battlefield in Iraq next to Al Quida in Iraq members.

    Don’t talk to me about rights. When did the prisoners from WWII get released??

    Not till the conflict was over.

  • brenarlo

    I really hope these suspected terrorists don’t get a fair trial.

    Are you shitting me? So let’s just forget about the guy or two who are actually innocent. They don’t matter, right? That’s a small sacrifice to pay right?

    http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=121821;title=APFN

    Apparently a federal court ruled that 5 of these 6 folks were held without sufficient evidence.

    Oops! Sorry for taking those 5 years from you, folks.

  • welder4

    Zig , I think that is shazammmm!no super hero here if I were I would do something about the mess we are in. it is better then My last avatar .whats up with the car, gun what ever you have .looks like a double barreled sports car, cool

  • di butler

    Too close to me here in GA. I don’t want them. I think I will start a protest. Seems like a dumb idea to move ‘em. They aren’t hurting anything right where they are.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    I’m wondering if Obama won’t live to regret those words.

    None of Obama’s sycophants remember what he said.

    The anti-war crowd is just anti-Republican. As long as the person has a D behind their name they can do whatever they want.

  • welder4

    Goon : if they are let loose I hope they let them loose around the DC area and they get killed there trying to blow up the white house . we don’t need to lend a helping hand to our enemies but that is what is happening . what a sick perverted bunch of idiots that are running this show today in Washington.

  • jpe

    I guess we should do to them what they would do to our guys, huh?

    That’s what we’re doing by releasing them.

  • di butler

    A trial affording them the rights we have as U.S. citizens?

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    But I will not re-argue the fictitious WMD’s nor what candidate Bush promised about nation building, for we have debated the issues and disagree on the interpretation of the events.

    Which is to say, you’ve been provided with facts that counter your claims, and you just decide to echo your claims anyways.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I heard that some of these assholes are going to go to the front of the line for citizenship.

  • ellinas

    Which is to say, you’ve been provided with facts that counter your claims, and you just decide to echo your claims anyways.

    Kenny on November 22, 2008 at 08:40 pm

    No. It only says that we disagree on what happened.

  • Lioncourt

    I heard that some of these assholes are going to go to the front of the line for citizenship.

    Can you cite something or do you just prefer to traffic in rumors.

  • Kidtransport

    Anybody know the total number of terrorists who were waterboarded and the total duration?
    I think it was 3 terrorists. Total time of 90 seconds for all three. Got some good info out of the guy in the straightjacket,too. Ask John McCain how long he was tortured and what all they did to him.

  • ellinas

    Not true in the slightest.

    Sphagnum on November 22, 2008 at 08:14 pm

    I disagree with you. But I will not re-argue the fictitious WMD’s nor what candidate Bush promised about nation building, for we have debated the issues and disagree on the interpretation of the events. When candidates speak they offer us paradise. When they get elected, they deliver hell.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/04/bush-dangerous-gitmo-deta_n_110835.html?page=3&show_comment_id=14003768#comment_14003768

    https://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/403664.aspx

    WASHINGTON – The White House said Thursday that dangerous detainees at Guantanamo Bay could end up walking Main Street U.S.A. as a result of last month’s Supreme Court ruling about detainees’ legal rights. Federal appeals courts, however, have indicated they have no intention of letting that happen.

    The high court ruling, which gave all detainees the right to petition federal judges for immediate release, has intensified discussions within the Bush administration about what to do with the roughly 270 detainees held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

  • brenarlo

    Didn’t the Supreme Court say that Gitmo should be closed?

  • http://www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u Gman

    I agree with Kurt send them to half way homes in DC or in San Francisco they would be happy there.

    Yeah, SF, maybe they would serve two purposes if we could get them to lop off the heads of the anti-prop 8 folks who are going to overturn the will of the people in the courts, AGAIN.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Are you shitting me? So let’s just forget about the guy or two who are actually innocent. They don’t matter, right? That’s a small sacrifice to pay right?

    Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.

    Just to be fer sure – fer sure.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Welder, Wing Chun,

    as long as youse guys are gonna be Superheroes, I might as well dive into a nearby phonebooth or back alley and emerge as….

    PHHAWHOOOMM!!!

  • jpe

    Aren’t the Democrats also demanding that we don’t send anyone back to a country where they might be tortured.

    That’s U.S. law. We can’t send people to countries where we have reason to believe they’ll be tortured.

    A trial affording them the rights we have as U.S. citizens?

    Nope. Just a hearing where the government has to reveal if it has any evidence at all to support the detention. On the first round of 7, the government had no evidence – aside from one instance of hearsay w/in hearsay, so-called “double-hearsay” – to support the detention of 6 of them.

    (note that if this were a trial in U.S. courts, with all the normal rights, that hearsay wouldn’t be admissible. The gitmo detainees don’t have the rights of defendants in criminal court, so the judge could consider it.)

  • http://vdvfamily.com/ Sphagnum

    No politician is ever held accountable\forced to be accountable for what he/she says.
    They may be held accountable for what they do though.

    Not true in the slightest. As President, Obama’s words will carry great power. As a Legislator, Obama could speak out of his ass whenever he wanted and it wouldn’t matter much unless half of his fellow legislators agreed with him.

    He’s gonna find a whole new meaning for the word “accountability” very, very quickly…

  • Kurt

    There must be halfway houses in Washington DC that could take them. A perfect location.

  • di butler

    What a bunch of weenie passivists some of you are. War is hell. So they have to stay until all fighting is over. WAAAA. I guess we should do to them what they would do to our guys, huh? Would that make you feel better? We can just go ahead and lop off their heads? Much more humane. I bet some of you would change your tune if someone you loved was decapitated by these assholes. You would be out for blood in a heartbeat.

  • Wing Chun Geologist

    The question should be, where are those buttheads going to go if their own countries don’t want them back. I can’t believe anyone really wants them here.

    Aren’t the Democrats also demanding that we don’t send anyone back to a country where they might be tortured.

    So let’s say that the ACLU gets a judge to rule that we can’t hold a particular Saudi national who’s “probably” a terrorist. Maybe the people who arrested him know he’s a terrorist, but can’t make that case without compromising intelligence assets.

    If we send him back to Saudi Arabia, he might very likely be tortured. If we send him to Iraq, he’ll try to overthrow the government. Do we just send them to London and hope everything turns out OK?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    moral stature

    please, lecture about moral stature now. heh.

  • WOOFX

    The detainees will be sent to
    the Navy brig in South Carolina.
    Not necessarily a step up for them.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    oh no! obama’s granting basic human rights to these prisoners (in the way of actual justice) will bite him in the ass.

    ah, but ain’t there a price to pay for having freedom and basic human rights? tell us about the cost benefit analysis on this one rob.

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