How Can Grand Forks ND Survive Without a Monorail?

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Earlier today I posted about the upcoming news conference by Mike Brown laying out his vision for the future.
Well the first reports are out and they smell fishy to me.

It IS a monorail; and an aquarium, too…
First, Brown didn’t call it a “monorail;” he said “light rail.” There are some differences in their advantages and disadvantages, though there’s apparently no clear agreement on which one costs less. A major advantage of monorail though, is voters think it’s super-cool.
The other very puzzling proposal is the aquarium next to the CanadInns water park. When I got wind of it on Friday, my first reaction was “How?? Why?? Here??” Again, this is a proposal looking for a partner. There was mention of UND but university President Robert Kelley said that he had not talked about it with the mayor, which would be logical because, correct me if I’m wrong, marine biology is not one of the university’s fortes.

Wow, has mayor brown been seen hanging around with the anesthetists too much?
Grand Forks has one really unique facility which is the Ralph Englestad Arena. Does the mayor think that by connecting that with the Alerus that somehow the success of the Ralph will rub off on the failed Alerus center?
I don’t see you ever needing some kind of short run people transport running between those two points. It’s not that people are going to move between the two in the same evening. (As if you are watching an hockey game at the Ralph and drop in at the Alerus too watch the concert during the period break.)
I don’t know if the Mayor thinks that this way would be a way to share parking. The large events at either facility empty out all at once. A monorail with only a few cars could hardly handle the thousands of people clearing out. A better solution would be the one we use now, which is to buses to disperse people. The beauty of that is that you don’t have to pay anything when you don’t need the buses which is vastly different than what a monorail would require.
The mayor’s idea to have an aquarium doesn’t hold water either. I mean sure, they’re neat and all, but they hardly are commercial success in anything but the largest cities. Duluth apparently still has one that had quite a bit of trouble.
It doesn’t appear the mayor has any idea of how to fund these projects which is hardly surprising. I sure hope these two goofy goofy ideas die a quick death. Somehow I think they’ll be haunting us for a while.
Maybe the mayor just thinks that if he acts like a crazy man we’ll quit noticing the Alerus finances going downhill.

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  • http://Array ec99

    “Is Tu-Uyen Tran a lap dog for the city?”

    You jus now noticing that?

  • http://hphardliner.blogspot.com/ Tyler Anderson

    I have to admit — when I heard of this I immediately thought that GF’s delusional mayor had played a bit too much Sim City.

  • 2Hotel9

    swag? Just on the off chance you actually have a clue, and since I have only been through GF, what is the priority infrastructure rehabilitation that needs done, right now? Not pie-in-the-sky. Necessary infrastructure.? Needed now?

  • docdave

    A monorail for a city of less than 100,000? You have to be kidding.

  • 2Hotel9

    Monorail

    Monorail!!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Well let’s be fair and accept that the managing editor is the one who decides what gets top of the fold, front page coverage.

    However let’s also wonder why the people that own the paper haven’t fired that clown for running their subscriber base off.

    I can’t imagine why anyone would allow that guy to erode an asset worth millions of dollars like that.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Which is also, Mike Jacobs. I don’t have a problem with there being one guy who’s clearly in the charge at the Herald.

    I just wonder who the idiots are at Knight Ridder and now the Forum Communications group that have let him screw up a nice money maker that was the Herald.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Build the monorail up above the expected snowpack/ glacier movements and y’all can still get around in the “globally warmed” winter! At least build the leg between the welfare office and the free clinic! That’s infrastructure!

  • swag

    I don’t think Grand Forks needs light rail, but I also don’t think anything would ever get built or get done in the city without someone with vision standing up to the “don’t tax and don’t spend” citizens of Grand Forks. I’ve never seen such skinflints. If a project doesn’t benefit them directly and immediately, there’s no need to even consider it. They’ll still be telling their great grandkids about the Great Alerus Uprising. Uffda!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’m conflicted on Tu Uyen’s coverage of the Alerus for sure. In some ways he has done a good job providing facts and figures.

    On the other hand, it seems personally, he’s a big Alerus no matter what supporter. Of course that’s fine, he’s entitled to his own opinion.

    I certainly don’t mind the give and take on his blog. I think it’s rather fun when he has to try to make it about me, rather than debate the merits of the argument. It means he has no counter to me.

    On the other hand, I’m very disappointed that he didn’t cover the losses at the Alerus. In fact he admitted he was holding those stories. I find that strange as in September and December and January he ran stories on supposed good results for the Alerus.

    Doesn’t bad news sell papers.

    I’m more disappointed the way he talks about the economic development study (and related items). I think he knows what a bunch of garbage that study was. But he still acts like it’s the gold standard, probably because it supports his wish that the Alerus wasn’t such a turkey.

    All in all I think we’re lucky to have as good a reporter covering this as we have.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    It would be nice for hockey games for Parking.

    I was trying to get to that. Are you going to be one of thousands waiting for that monorail car to show up to take you to the Alerus parking lot?

    I can’t imagine they’re going to be building that much capacity in the thing that it would help.

  • gilbyguy

    (sung to the tune of I’ve been working on the railroad)

    I’ve been workin’ on the light rail
    all the live long day …
    I’ve been workin’ on the light rail
    just to piss tax money away
    can’t you hear the mill rates risin’
    rise up so early in the morn
    can’t you hear the mayor dreaming
    and blowing his own horn!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I don’t think this will ever get built, but if it did they’d follow the same script as the Alerus debate.

    1) They’ll cook the books and claim it made money.

    2) They’ll say they need more investment, but they can’t pay for it out of the profits for some unexplained reason.

    3) When they’re exposed as not making money they’ll say that making money was never a priority.

    4) They’ll accuse the problems as coming from people who doubted them in the first place.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    A monorail for a city of less than 100,000? You have to be kidding.

    Less than 60,000 and I’m afraid they aren’t kidding.

    I’m surprised Brown or someone else hasn’t suggested a gothic cathedral or a Louvre, built, of course, at citizens’ expense.

    It’s the least we could do for them considering how great they are.

  • ec99

    “I don’t have a problem with there being one guy who’s clearly in the charge at the Herald.”

    Neither would I, except for the fact that Jacobs has essentially turned the Herald into his exclusive mouthpiece, either through his own writings or those articles written by others. Jacobs is an ideologue, which etymologically roughly means “my word.” Jacobs subscribes to the idea that there are two opinions to any topic: his, and the wrong one. His is the one that gets published. I am not at all surprised that Tran takes the views he does. In order to work for the Herald, you are not allowed your own opinion, if it conflicts with that of Jacobs. Stifling news stories, slanting stories, printing happy news are all part of Jacobs’ view that the Herald is supposed to be a cheerleader for GF; readers and citizens be damned. I understand the real news actually gets circulated in the men’s locker room at the YMCA.

  • ec99

    “I’m very disappointed that he didn’t cover the losses at the Alerus.”

    Tran simply is following Jacobs’ orders. It’s that or lose his job. And if anyone wants an idea of how important Jacobs believes the Herald is, notice the story today (2/24) running on the front page above the fold; traditionally considered the space where the most important story runs.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    ec99, I just wondering if anyone notices that? It is disgusting, I don’t consider him to be very objective at all.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Man I can’t ever do anything right. ;-(

  • 2Hotel9

    So, swag? Your big plan is to keep stealing money from the productive and pissing it away. Wow! Why didn’t we think of that before!!!!!

  • Buckets

    Get on the bus……..what are you people smoking…a monorail in a little city like Grand Forks.

  • docdave

    Less than 60,000 and I’m afraid they aren’t kidding.

    Makes it even more ridiculous. Monorail will never be anything but park and ride. So now you have to get into your car and drive to the monorail station, park it and walk to an area where you wait for the train. I can just see someone doing that in the cold of winter NOT.

  • Brent

    Maybe Grand Forks can copy this North St. Paul bonehead idea.

  • sayanything-4625

    Lyle Lanley: Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth
    like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail!
    What’d I say?

    Ned Flanders: Monorail!

    Lyle Lanley: What’s it called?

    Patty+Selma: Monorail!

    Lyle Lanley: That’s right! Monorail!

    [crowd chants `Monorail' softly and rhythmically]

    Miss Hoover: I hear those things are awfully loud…

    Lyle Lanley: It glides as softly as a cloud.

    Apu: Is there a chance the track could bend?

    Lyle Lanley: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.

    Barney: What about us brain-dead slobs?

    Lyle Lanley: You’ll be given cushy jobs.

    Abe: Were you sent here by the devil?

    Lyle Lanley: No, good sir, I’m on the level.

    Wiggum: The ring came off my pudding can.

    Lyle Lanley: Take my pen knife, my good man.
    I swear it’s Springfield’s only choice…
    Throw up your hands and raise your voice!

    All: Monorail!

    Lyle Lanley: What’s it called?

    All: Monorail!

    Lyle Lanley: Once again…
    All: Monorail!

    Marge: But Main Street’s still all cracked and broken…

    Bart: Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken!
    All: Monorail!
    Monorail!
    Monorail!
    [big finish]
    Monorail!

  • 2Hotel9

    Damnit, Greg!!! You beat me to it. I mean, look what the monorail did for Ogdenville, North Haverbrook, and Brockway!

  • ec99

    I am convinced the one of the problems of GF is that its “leaders” are at salaries so far above the average citizen’s, that they don’t have a clue about how many struggle to live and still pay the taxes. They travel around the world and say “I want this for GF.” I’m surprised Brown or someone else hasn’t suggested a gothic cathedral or a Louvre, built, of course, at citizens’ expense.

  • ec99

    “Well let’s be fair and accept that the managing editor is the one who decides what gets top of the fold, front page coverage.”

    And he take orders from who? The publisher. I believe. Who is?

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I am not sure where they would ever get the funding for it from?
    It would be nice for hockey games for Parking. :)
    Is Tu-Uyen Tran a lap dog for the city? It sure seems like it.

  • sayanything-4625

    Damnit, Greg!!! You beat me to it. I mean, look what the monorail did for Ogdenville, North Haverbrook, and Brockway!

    We could give Dino a job too!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Someone’s in the chambers with Micheal
    Someone’s in the chambers I know~
    Someone’s in the chambers with Michael
    Strumming on their old banjo.

    Singing

    Fee Fi spending I go
    Fee Fi Spending I go-o-o.
    Fee Fi Spending I go
    Strumming on the old Banjo.

  • Brent

    Whistler, you forgot the parts where the sales tax is raised and where they conduct an “economic impact” study.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’ve never seen such skinflints.

    We really are obligated to buy every lie that the self appointed city leaders can come up with.

    We owe it to them to build everything they want because of their greatness.

  • imagine

    Disney found monorails “not cost effective”….I am sure the GF knows more about transportation.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I’m surprised Brown or someone else hasn’t suggested a …Louvre

    Then all the townfolk can make the Louve symbol as a greeting!

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  • WOOFX

    Don’t be cheap, go First Class/French

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