House Passes $14 Billion Auto Industry Bailout

They’re calling it a “loan,” but if it were a loan it’d be given by a bank. Not the taxpayers.

WASHINGTON — A $14-billion rescue package for the imperiled U.S. auto industry sped to approval in the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday night, but the emergency bailout was still in jeopardy from Republicans who were setting out roadblocks in the Senate.
Democrats and the Bush White House hoped for a Senate vote as early as Thursday and enactment by week’s end. They argued that the loans authorized by the measure were needed to stave off disaster for the auto industry — and a crushing further blow to the reeling U.S. economy.
The legislation, approved 237-170 by the House, would provide money within days to cash-starved General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC. Ford Motor Co., which has said it has enough to stay afloat, would also be eligible for federal aid.

Here’s the vote tally. Only 32 Republicans voted for it. You can see which ones at the link.
According to the article, certain Senate Republicans are promising a battle over it, but not all of them are on the same page.

Republicans were preparing a strong fight against the aid plan in the Senate, not only taking on the Democrats but standing in open revolt against their party’s lame-duck president on the measure.
The Republicans want to force the companies into bankruptcy or mandate hefty concessions from autoworkers and creditors as a condition of any federal aid.

For those concerned with limited government – for those Republicans who would call themselves conservatives – there is no choice here but bankruptcy. “Heavy concessions” to go along with a bailout is merely a cop out.
To date five Republican Senators are on board for a filibuster. Will it be enough? And with this Congress winding down and Democrats set to have larger majorities, and Obama in the White House, will killing the bailout now even matter?
It may not. But that doesn’t mean Republicans should go softly into the dark night. A nice, nasty filibuster would be the perfect mood-setter for the next Congress.

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  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    For you North Dakotans, Pomeroy voted for the bailout.

    As usual, Little Lord Pomeroy takes his orders from the out-of-state labor goonion bosses! Taxpayers be damned!

  • HG

    Have you called your Senator yet?

    Elected officials who will stand for liberty are few, we’re really all that is left between this economic slavery where our earnings are confiscated and given to big corporations to the tune of about 1 trillion dollars or $3,500 per citizen (approx 10k per taxpayer). Add this to the 10 trillion dollar national debt or about 35,000 per citizen (approx 100k per taxpayer) and you begin to see the seriousness of the problem. This is government out of control. This is our liberty on the line. What is it going to take before we wise up, before we resolve to put a stop to this madness. We know we can end this crap, we did it with Amnesty and Hillary-care, with Harriet Myers. We are it folks. We either stand up for ourselves and our liberty or we lose it. Folks, if you haven’t yet, call your Senators.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Whistle, I feel that way too. Once they start begging for tax payer bail outs the days of huge million dollar salaries and bonuses are over! How they had the nerve to ask is beyond me.

  • Dino

    Yeah! If we can bust the unions, those guys won’t make more money than me! I mean, why should ANYONE make more than me?

    That’s all the brainstems care about. One even defended the CEO salaries. Amazing.

  • Brent

    “Some congressional Democrats speculated that if Senate Republicans were kill the rescue plan, the Treasury secretary, Henry Paulson, Jr., would have no choice but to keep GM and Chrysler afloat, at least until the new Congress begins early next month and wider Democratic majorities are sworn into office.”

    Story

    Congress is irrelevant anyway. The executive branch will do what it wants anyway — either under Bush or under Obama.

  • Dino

    If fuel economy standards didn’t matter the Big 3 wouldn’t be begging for money to retool in order to build more fuel efficient cars.

    If you can’t do your homework maybe you should become a homosexual and go dancing.

  • NoJelly

    I heard someone quote worldwide sales statistics from last year yesterday. Apparently Toyota and GM sold virtually the exact same number of vehicles…But GM lost some $30 billion and Toyota made $17 billion…The “something” wrong with that picture is pretty obvious, and throwing money at the manufacturers unions is not going to make this better. I believe reorganization under chapter 11 is the surest way to success. Get out from under the union’s thumb, gather some consumer confidence by building cars Americans WANT. The alternative is bad on too many levels. This is taxpayer money, NOT Congress’, though you wouldn’t know it by their behavior, and if the car salesmen fail anyway the People are going to be pissed, after having been screwed by Congress and their evil Wall Street buddies to the the tune of $850 billion in the first place…

    No to the unions. They can set up their Soviet someplace else…

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Dino. I am with you on this if I read you correctly. No bailout. Both of my senators will be filibustering. It is not a case of greed.

    Yeah! If we can bust the unions, those guys won’t make more money than me! I mean, why should ANYONE make more than me?

    It is a case of principal. Like honesty. In our society, one is free to choose what they buy, where they work, where they live and who they associate with (no union association for me).
    Any company should stand on its own product.
    This is a case of paying thousands of people to do nothing — but get paid.

    As one senator said yesterday: Toyota and GM sold the same # of cars. Toyota made about 13+ million $. GM lost about 35 million $ WHY?

  • bill-tb

    UAW bailout, not auto industry. The auto industry doesn’t need bailing out, it’s doing just fine as it is.

    Last year —
    GM sold 9.37 million units and lost $38 billion.
    Toyota sold 9.37 million units and made $17 billion in profits.

    Get your government built ‘green’ Volgas before they are all sold out for the the month.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    IF it were a loan they might be forced to build better cars!

  • getperks

    If the companies want bailout money they should guarantee the money will not be spent on overseas plants.

  • groetzinger

    CEO’s making 20 mil. a year may have helped with the loss and that doesn’t include their bonus.

  • HG

    Don’t ya think that maybe, just maybe, it’s impossible for government to override the laws of physics?

    Bike,

    You’re just not progressive enough to imagine the possibility.

  • getperks

    I really hate to say it but I think we need to bail out the auto industry. The CEOs should have to declare bankruptcy or at least sell off assets. The Fords own a little team called the Detroit Lions for god sakes. The problem with not bailing them out is that there is no American companies waiting in the wings to step up to the plate. The banks however are another story. Im sure smaller banks would love to grow. I just wish the Govt. didn`t have such a soft spot for the financial industry!!

  • HG

    Dino,
    Fuel economy standards didn’t make the big 3 failures. If you have nothing of any sense to add to the discussion, go comment on homosexuality or something you’re familiar with.

  • Dino

    I’m not in favor of this either but at least I’m reasonable.

    If we didn’t throw them a line and the car industry failed, the economy would tank. Then conservatives would blame the democrats. The economy will still tank and the conservatives will blame the democrats.

    Try and remember why this all happened. Try and remember how the Clinton admin kept trying to raise fuel economy standards and the republicans blocked them. Remember when the republicans told everyone to live big, buy everything you see and get the biggest fascist-mobile you can. Can’t afford it? Refinance your house! Life is to be lived LARGE! After all, you don’t want to be one of those liberal losers, do you?

    Once again, the conservative mindset of materialism and neglect of priorities is the culprit.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Dino:

    why should ANYONE make more than me?

    Everyone should make more than you.

  • Dino

    The reports of UAW salaries are simply lies. But if you repeat the same lie over and over, it becomes truth in brainstem America.

  • seth lawrence

    Why don’t the auto industry go to the Chinese for the loan and cut out the middleman. It sounds like Peter borrowing to pay off Paul?

  • Gabriel Heffez

    As if the Auto industry was not enough in Debt….

    Maybe they should consider not paying their employees $60/hour to screw a nut on a bolt….

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    Yeah, Dina, the UAW knows that it’s not getting that $75/hour in wages, benefits, pensions, and so on, and that’s why they just agreed to reduce that amount by giving up the jobs bank.

    Whatever it is that you’re smoking, it must be pretty good. Even the UAW admits that the overall cost of labor is $25/hour more than what Toyota is paying.

    Same thing with your absurd claims about fuel economy. Don’t ya think that if a 35mpg Explorer could be made affordably, somebody would be doing it? Don’t ya think that if a non-hybrid car could get 35mpg and be bigger than a Civic, someone would be doing it and reaping the profits?

    Don’t ya think that maybe, just maybe, it’s impossible for government to override the laws of physics?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Normally I think people bitching about CEO’s are butting in where they have no business. But in the case of the auto execs (and finance firms as well) if they’re asking for a bailout they put themselves in this situation.

    That goes for UAW salaries as well. I hope the bankruptcy judge busts the union.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Maybe they should consider not paying their employees $60/hour to screw a nut on a bolt….

    WHY DO YOU HATE BLUE COLLAR AMERICA!?!?!?!

    /liberal

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    F*ck the auto industry. US manufacturers think they can carry on with making expensive, plastic hunks of shit. The japs took them to town long ago. Get rid of those factories. Its like the small farmers… make something exotic or good that you can market, figure it out, or shut the fuck up.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    For you North Dakotans, Pomeroy voted for the bailout.

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