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Despicable. I can’t watch Jon Stewart any more, and I watch a lot of people that I really don’t care for, but he’s just like nails on a chalkboard to me.

I really can’t think of anything more disgusting then people rooting against the progress of democracy in the world for the sole purpose of political gain.

Or, more accurately, for the sole purpose of America not going completely to shit because of policies that were legitimized by success in the Middle East.  Ever thought that there are people out there who have good reasons for opposing Bush and his actions, and don’t do it simply for “political gain”?

Personally, I’d be willing to go through the Middle East completely rejecting our plans for them if it meant that my own nation wouldn’t consider the Patriot Act, the privatization of Social Security, No Child Left Behind, and the various other inane and self-destructive policies of the Bush administration to be good ideas by association with the only plan that they’ve had in the past four years that might have actually worked.  (And even that would be a miracle, considering our past track record in nation building as well as the remarkable way in which we botched up the plan’s execution.)

Rob

I think people are able to deal with policies on an individual basis.  I’m all for the war on terror and all for a revamp of Social Security, but I’m against No Child Left Behind as well as against a lot of the Patriot Act.

How much of a partisan fool would you have to be to oppose progress in the middle east lest it reflect well on someone whose other policies you oppose?

Rob, no one here is trying to say that the Bush administration is right in all matters just because they’ve had some success in the middle east.  Heck, more than once I’ve wanted to strangle them over the whole Medicare thing.

All I’m saying is that he has had some success and that a lot of people on the left are having a hard time acknowledging that.  The fact that some of them would even go so far as to root against progress in the middle east is, in my opinion, rather disgusting.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I wish Taranto at Opinion Journal would have included details about just WHO Soderberg is.

She was on the staff of Senator Kennedy before joining the Clinton Gore Administration. As number 3 on the staff of the National Security Council, she was at Clinton’s right hand during much of the malfeasance we witnessed during that time.

When she remarks about something going wrong in North Korea, she ought to know. Sec. Albright and Soderberg were among the cabal of America apologists that thought they could buy good will from Kim Jong Il… Didn’t work DID IT!

Now, Bush is cleaning up the mess these people made and all they can do is hope he does not succeed…

Very sad… Politics used to stop at the water’s edge… But power and personal bitterness seems to be more important to these folks than their own nation’s success in making the world a freer, more peaceful place.

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Unfortunately, Rob, you cannot produce evidence of that success you claim.

Well, I couldn’t find enough evidence to convince the likes of you.  But then, I’m not too worried about that.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Unfortunately, Rob, you cannot produce evidence of that success you claim.

Certainly, you can point to anecdotes like a woman being named a Governor in Afghanistan or some whackjob saying Bush has transformed Lebanon.

OTOH, you ignore a warlord and former Soviet quisling has been placed in charge of Afghanistan’s military or the fact Iraq’s leaders are very, very sympathetic to Iran and the idea of establishing an Islamic Republic.

I don’t know what your definition of ‘success’ is, but generally it’s defined as achieving, or exceeding, objectives and goals.  If we look at AWOL eorge’s objectives and goals going into this war--they’ve all failed miserably.

How much of a partisan fool would you have to be to oppose progress in the middle east lest it reflect well on someone whose other policies you oppose?

I thought I already explained pretty well that I’m not being partisan, nor do I oppose Bush merely because I disagree with his policies.  I disagreed with most of Reagan’s policies, but I didn’t think our country was in danger of collapsing due to his administration.  And for the record, the last President that I considered to be even approach the ineptitude of our current one was Jimmy Carter.

Rob

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