As a Navy vet I can tell you that queers in the USN are incompatible with service in that branch at least.

I’ve seen a porno like that. “All Hands on Dick.”

guys who prefer a fecal encrusted asshole on a hairy butt are just the same as guys who like a sweet pussy on a soft and delicious woman?

Did you skip the session on hygiene in Health class? ICK.

GO WASH UP!

Personally I would not feel comfortable taking a shower in the company of a homo.

Afraid you won’t “measure up”?

Gays frequently express their preference for a straight guy, if they can ‘get’ one.

PP says:

Gays frequently express their preference for a straight guy, if they can ‘get’ one.

Like I said, there is no threat unless you are a homophobic pussy. So some guy wants to to “do me”….so what? It aint gonna happen.

How many straight men want to bang married women? Looking and lusting after their shipmates wives is more offensive.

Most straight men of the new era appreciate gay men as friends. Despite the preference difference, we’re still men. As an old boss once said to me, “What do men and womene hve in common? They like to spend time with men.” I have very close friendships with straight men who find me easier to open up to and confide in than their straight friends.

We can “turn it off” with straight comrades and co-workers just as you straight men turn it off when around females you know you shouldn’t be hitting on. We’re above animal behavior.

My boyfriend and I had dinner tonight and watched The Amazing Race on TV. Afterward, I read the paper while he did his laundry.

OH MY GOD! Look at the threat we pose to normal people everywhere!

Hannitized casually ignores the huge number of homosexual pedophiles now in prison for going after heterosexual boys.

The important part is the pedophile part…there are larger amounts of heterosexual rapists and pedophiles in jails then there are homosexuals, and it doesn’t prove anything.

People do live above animal instincts and if they don’t it won’t matter whether they’re straight or gay.

guys who prefer a fecal encrusted asshole on a hairy butt are just the same as guys who like a sweet pussy on a soft and delicious woman?

Did you skip the session on hygiene in Health class? ICK.

GO WASH UP! smile

Gotta agree on that one…

A “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Care” is more appropriate if you ask me.

Unfortunately homos tend to be predatory always look for new ‘partners’. The enlisted men of a military live in close proximity which could cause some problems. Personally I would not feel comfortable taking a shower in the company of a homo. Who knows what could happen if I dropped the soap and bent over to pick it up.

Gay people aren’t any different than heterosexuals…you’re a fool in believing gay people are any more predatory than straight people.

Can’t you read? I didn’t say that they were MORE predatory. As far as not being any different that heteros, that’s a crock too. Homo men go after men, hetero men go after women. As a man, I’ve never been bothered by heteros but I have been harassed by homos several times the last being of all places a religious retreat center.

Homo men go after men,

Homo men go for homo men the same way straight men go for women.

Nothing is a threat if you aren’t a homophobic pussy.

Unfortunately homos tend to be predatory always look for new ‘partners’. The enlisted men of a military live in close proximity which could cause some problems. Personally I would not feel comfortable taking a shower in the company of a homo. Who knows what could happen if I dropped the soap and bent over to pick it up.

Really?

Gay people aren’t any different than heterosexuals…you’re a fool in believing gay people are any more predatory than straight people.

the problem of agressive dykes onboard is a huge problem for hetro women sailors as well

openingly being queer in your home town is up to you…openly being queer in the Navy is an ongoing problem and a huge headache for CO’s who have to deal with political PC orders from those who have never served.

as far as men looking at women? why not rage against the sunrise djer?

really? guys who prefer a fecal encrusted asshole on a hairy butt are just the same as guys who like a sweet pussy on a soft and delicious woman?

what universe are you from Rez?

You homosexuals can protest the truth and the facts all you want. It doesn’t make homosexuality any more sane, or less dangerous to those who engage in it, or the children who are victimized by it any less victimized.

The numbers of diseases, both mental and venereal, are out there. The rate of sexual victimization of children is out there as well. Stamp your feet, froth at the mouth or try to hit me with your purses and it doesn’t change the truth.

It’s an ugly truth and that’s what riles you. You know at bottom that you are wrong and someone pointing it out to you and particularly pointing it out to others, threatens your self-image and sends you into a rage.

Tough.

You have been reduced to asking — in effect — why I am so normal. Better to ask yourselves, what makes you so abnormal?

What has happened in your life to make you a deviant?

Frankly I don’t want to hear how you were raped by a priest or a boyscout leader or your drunk Mexican uncle at the tender age of nine, but that’s how a lot of homosexuals got their start.

If you yourself are not homosexual, why on Earth would anyone take it upon themselves to defend a dangerous and deviant practice? Why would you place yourself in the same camp as NAMBLA, because that is exactly what you are doing.

The effort to abolish “age of consent” laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: “Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.”

And

It’s Not Gay presents a story that few have heard, allowing former homosexuals the opportunity to tell their own story in their own words. Along with medical and mental health experts, these individuals express a clear warning that the sanitized version of homosexuality being presented to students is not the whole truth.

Uncompromising, yet compassionate, It’s Not Gay is a fair and balanced approach to this challenging subject.

https://store.a fa .net/ pc-42-5- its-not- gay-dvd .aspx

To be fair to the Obama administration, in this policy he’s following the Clinton policy rather than the Bush policy.

I just view it as one more stressor in an already stressful situation. I agree don’t ask don’t tell seems to be the best way to handle things right now.

Personally I wish a lot of people (straight and homosexual) would keep the drama in their lives to themselves.

the “nobody cares” argument is false…but you seem very sure it’s all good. Hold that thought if it’s a comfort.

openly queer onboard ship is bad from every operational standpoint…talk to the Officers and Senior Petty Officers who must command these young men and women.

For Sparkie and Dino…hey, please stop trying to be fake intellectuals and dissecting the arguments from those of us who are let’s just say not with you on this….

There are jut two opposing opinions on this – those who are comfortable with people who choose to live the GAY lifestyle and those who are not.

It would be just that, and Gay people could go about their lifestyle within their own group of like-minded people, and the rest of us could get along with our lives.

It is just the meddling minority of people in the Gay and liberal left communities who feel that it the right of those in the “Gay” camp should impose their lifestyle into the more mainstream hetro life and this is where the clashes take place.

Gay people get brainwashed into taking on this fight and will eventually lose even the peaceful lifestyle that they had once enjoyed in secret.

Why is it that you have to be OUT and shout your gay-ness to the rest of the world? Here’s the truth…IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE GAY…so long as you keep it contained to yourselves and within your community; and not try an impose it on the rest of us!

As Move_Zig states “You homosexuals can protest the truth and the facts all you want.” At the end of the day, it does not make it mainstream or normal and it will never be until one man having sexual intercourse with another increases the population (without artificial aids or science…).

Homosexuals are very much more sexually aggressive than normal people

Well, you’re just a whack job who has a definite problem with queers. You’re like an old southern man sitting on the porch in a rocker talking about how the “nigras” are less human than whites. A relic. A has-been. A increasingly marginalized fringe element adhering to myth and lies to support your warped, Quixotic crusade against the gays.

All men are sexually predatory and aggressive if they have testicles.

Hannitized casually ignores the huge number of homosexual pedophiles now in prison for going after heterosexual boys.

Gays frequently express their preference for a straight guy, if they can ‘get’ one.

If he has sex with me he’s no longer straight. And it’s often a lot more trouble than it’s worth.

Sorry guys, I am not coked up. I prefer Pepsi or cold green tea.

Sheez.

Oh yeah. This just in from your side of the fence:

Sex offender says he will continue to molest children; is released anyway

(Blogger’s comment) Michael McGill is a sick individual. He’s been convicted of repeated sexual assaults against children, and has written letters begging to stay in prison so that he won’t harm anyone again. Yet, he’s still going to be released?

A convicted sex offender due to be released Saturday from prison after serving 11 months warned in letters that if set free, he would reoffend, even against children. In the letters, Michael McGill begged authorities to keep him locked up for life.

“Please throw the book at me … I’m harmful to others I should be locked up for life,” he wrote in block letters that resemble a child’s writing. “I will sexual abuse men. Do this for the safe (sic) of others then I be able not to hurt anyone else. Judge I’m begging you to put me away.”

In another place he wrote that he had told his two 7-year-old male victims, “I will do more sex crimes with boys 4 to 14. I will molest with boys 15 to 18.”

Neither the Polk County attorney’s office, which prosecuted McGill and distributed his letters to other agencies, nor the Iowa Board of Parole, nor the attorney general’s office, which handles civil commitments for sexually violent predators, says it can do anything to prevent McGill’s release.

McGill will at least initially be housed at the community-based Fort Des Moines Correctional Facility, which he won’t be allowed to leave without an officer’s escort. He is supposed to wear an electronic monitoring bracelet at all times and be under maximum supervision for 10 years. But is that enough?

His letters, spanning 22 pages, were obtained Thursday by The Des Moines Register. It’s unclear whether he was addressing anyone in particular. They were written at some point after his latest arrest, in April 2008. Assistant Polk County Attorney Jeff Noble got them June 13, 2008, and sent them days later to officials at the Des Moines Police Department, the Iowa Board of Parole and the Iowa Department of Correctional Services. McGill, 50, wrote that his sexual offenses date to 1976 and that there were 15 victims.

Silly faggots… Dicks are for chicks.

Gotta agree on that one…

LOL!!!!!!!!

This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/30/2009, at The Unreligious Right

So Rez, why have any segregated living/showering quarters at all?

Put all of ‘em together, men, women, gays, lesbians.

Nothing will happen.

Bottom line, homosexuality is a disease of the mind.

It is sexual deviancy and perversion.

It is also unsafe. Homosexuals comprise an inordinate danger to themselves and to others, both through the innate danger of their acts (leading to a shortened life span by some 20 years — how odd, that Leftards concern themselves about the health of smokers, but turn a blind eye to the self-imposed health risks imposed by the anal hijinks of homosexuals) , the other psychoses that accompany homosexuality, and the danger they pose to children and to the general population by the introduction of a deadly and incurable disease of AIDs/ HIV.

That homosexuality is tolerated makes no sense when taking into consideration the State’s duties under the Police Power to ensure the health, safety, welfare and morals of society. For the State to impose a deviancy which presents a clear and present danger to society is a total abrogation of the purpose that the State has been formed.

In so doing, now the State constitutes a hazard to society, not its protector.

Homosexuals are over-represented in many samples of eating disordered men. While the proportion of male homosexuals in the general population cross-culturally is estimated to be 3%-5% (Whitman, 1983), samples of eating-disordered men are commonly twice as high or greater (Fichter & Daser, 1987).
# Several authors have noted that homosexual conflict preceded the onset of an eating disorder in up to 50% of male patients (Scott, 1986; Dally, 1969; Crisp, 1967).
# Conflict over gender identity or over sexual orientation may precipitate the development of an eating disorder in many males (Crisp, 1983). It may be that by reducing their sexual drive through starvation, patients can temp orarily resolve their sexual conflicts (Crisp, 1970).

it’s a big problem IN REALITY…only on paper it does it seem workable

do some time in the real Navy and get back to me on the “fairness” thing.

There’s plenty of reason to change the policy.

I haven’t been in the military. I guess I’d defer to people that know what’s going on.

However, I fail to see any need to use the military for social experimentation in this case.

he would not report someone under his command unless he absolutely had to.

Doesn’t that help keep it in control?

I’ve always thought this should be removed as well Rob. A “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Care” is more appropriate if you ask me.

I’m with Moszer. And I think those of you who are basing your opposition to gays in the military on the fact that you think gay sex is “icky” need to grow up a little bit.

Besides, there are already plenty of gays in the military. Deal with it.

I think it’s rather stupid to assume that the best military, from a professional and tactical standpoint, is one without gays in it.

Do you have some evidence to back that up? Do I need to mention, say, Alexander the Great? The Spartans? And any number of other warriors of the past with homosexual tendencies?

Do they house men and women together in the military?

I didn’t think so.

In combat zones I think the quarters tend to get pretty tight. But even so, why would we assume that homosexual men wouldn’t be able to control themselves?

I’m sure anyone who has used a public gym has probably been in the shower room with a gay guy at one point.

MoveZig

Homosexuals are very much more sexually aggressive than normal people. Even though they comprise perhaps 3 percent of the population, they commit about one third of sexual assaults against children. Thus their aggressive tendency is an order of magnitude over the general population.

Let’s consider your argument. I runs something like this.
Premise 1: Homosexuals comprise 3% of the population.
Premise 2: Homosexuals commit approx 33% of the sexual assaults against children.
Conclusion: Homosexuals’ agressive tendency is significantly higher than that of heterosexuals, bisexuals, etc.

First, you equivocate from first saying ‘sexual aggression’ to later general ‘aggression’. Second, if your statistics are true, there is much more to agression and even to sexual agression than merely sexually assaulting children. What if sexual assaults on children only comprise a small fraction of all sexual assaults? Your conclusion is not warranted, given your premises.

Not only is your argument logically invalid, its probably also unsound. I doubt that your premises are even true, given you are only citing anti-homosexual websites. Provide some stats from a website that is not a Mickey-Mouse anti-homo site and maybe we can grant that your stats are credible. The Tim Daily fellow who authored that piece has a PhD in religion – not criminology, sociology, or any other science remotely related to characterizing these issues. He’s a missionary, a propagandist — that is all.

To continue with the problems… look at this quote

Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls

The violations are homosexual or the violators are? A lot of the people who are responsible for the violations may not be included in the 3% you site. My bet is that they are closet homosexuals who lie on those sorts of questionnaires, probably even have wives… until they are caught molesting little boys, or whatever. So you data is all out of whack. We assume sexuality of the culprit based on the crime when they could be bisexuals or DL homosexuals. We assume these men come from the 3% of the population who volunteer their sexual orientation truthfully on demographic surveys.

Screw you head back on and try again. You have jack shit here, baiter.

Move_zig
you are wrong, multiply. still.

from an adaptive point of view… consider the beaver. Beaver’s slap their tales when danger is near. They need not slap their tales only when danger is near… a 10% accuracy rate would still keep them safe if they took cover 90% of the time for no reason. a trait can be adaptive without being 100%, as you can see. the beaver survives.

now let’s run the argument with homosexuality. you claim that it is non-adaptive, but we don’t need all the sex that occurs to be heterosexual for humans to thrive, as one can see from the beaver analogy. if 3% of the population is homosexuals, that doesn’t bespeak any unnatural-ness or any non-adaptiveness. i hope you can appreciate this. also, you don’t believe in evolution do you? why run these arguments? grasping at whatever you can get ahold of?

what happened to you that makes you so anti-gay?

he is a big military type. he spent years working out and having buttsex in the service. seriously, where do you more self-hating homos than in the military?

also, DIno — feel free to take these arguments apart. your response sucked and i cant do all the work here. your calm evening with your beau sounds quite harmless, but it doesnt serve to dispell the bullshit slander oozing from zig-zag the coked up, central floridian, muscle bound homosexual. those florida homosexuals are so weird, with all the steroids and shit – WTF?

dino
its important to neuter those official-looking comments with all the links he leaves. its not him you need to worry about, its all the poor jakes who stumble through and think he’s arguing on solid logic with solid sources. its all just bullshit from insecure churchmen who probably molest little boys themselves and, as a externalization of their self-hatred, crusade against it.

the funny thing is that a lot of the socio-biology that this stuff is tacitly couched in (homosexuality is unnatural, bad, etc) is totally bunk… not to mention that it draws on evolutionary theory, which most of these guys don’t even believe in. don’t trust old scientists… and even moreso… don’t trust old non-scientists… when it comes to scientific claims. zig isn’t making a scientific claim, in the end, but he masquerades as such.