Homeland Security Report Labels Those “Reverent Of Individual Liberty” As Possible Terrorists

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The report below, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security’s Science and Technology Human Factors/Behavioral Sciences Division, is intended to quantify the location and causation of domestic terrorism.

The methodology doesn’t pass the smell test as it claims that “More than 2,600 terroristevents occurred in the United States between 1970 and 2008.” That’s an absurd amount of “terrorism” that breaks down to no fewer than 68 terrorist incidents per year nation wide, or about one incident every five days.

Clearly, there are some serious problems with how they’re defining “terrorism” here. While I’m sure the crimes they track are quite serious, I don’t think most of us would consider incidents that common to be meeting the commonly understood definition of “terrorism.” It wouldn’t be surprising, of course, to learn that they’re setting the bar pretty low in order to inflate incidents to justify bigger security budgets.

This is the federal government we’re talking about, after all.

But more troubling than statistical gamesmanship is how some supposed strains of terrorists are being defined. According to the report, “extreme right-wing” terrorists might be “suspicious of centralized federal authority” or “reverent of individual liberty.” Meaning that none other that Thomas Jefferson, that eloquent radical, might have drawn the interest of federal authorities today.

Ironically, while the report does also describe “extreme left-wing” terrorists, it doesn’t criticize the ideology of the leftists. It doesn’t bemoan their love of authoritarian government. Rather, it simply characterizes their objectionable tactics in implementing their ideology:

Extreme Left-Wing: groups that want to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. This category also includes secular left-wing groups that rely heavily on terrorism to overthrow the capitalist system and either establish “a dictatorship of the proletariat” (Marxist-Leninists) or, much more rarely, a decentralized, non-hierarchical political system (anarchists).

So being a lover of individual liberty, and preferring decentralized government to monolithic government, is inherent to being a right-wing terrorist, but you’re only a left-wing terrorist if you use violent tactics.

A convenient double standard.

But is anyone really surprised that our federal government would label anyone questioning its authority as a radical? After all, what bigger threat to the consolidated power of the federal government than an electorate of suspicious citizens interested in protecting their individual liberty from that power?

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Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Glock27

    That’s what happens when someone tries to take control of a country, The citizens become the terroists.  If (o)bama is elected again our guns go and we go,

    • ellinas1

      Nonsense.

    • Leh1369

      That’s me!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ratbite

    & folks think there will be an election in November. I’m waiting for Obama’s “Reichstag Fire” that will give him an excuse to cancel the elections. The “Reichstag Fire” will probably be some series of Tea Party events.

    • ellinas1

      While you are waiting 
      for Obama’s “Reichstag Fire” that will give him an excuse to cancel the elections, hold your breath.
      Crazy right wing conspirary minded nutters crack me up.

      Remember now. Hold your breath.

  • SigFan

    Noted left-wing “terrorist”, Hillary Clinton;

    “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

    Unless you’re a conservative dissenter, I guess.

  • mikemc1970

    What’s so surprising about this? Obama and his Marxist regime will write into government policies and procedures anything that will denigrate political opposition to their leftist political will. That’s what autocrats do.

  • Onslaught1066

    Just a show of hands;

    How many of our resident fanatical anti-American libturd dimocraps are ready to proclaim their love of liberty and will stand up against our tyrannical overbearing government.

    If you wish to conceal your collaborator status  we’ll understand.

  • Doubtful

    Interesting database. The description of terrorism is “the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a non state actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation.” 
    It includes things like mailing bloody razor blades to animal researchers and similar acts. The group who compiled the data intended to collect every incident that might be terrorism and they clearly say that it contains incidents that do not meet many definitions of terrorism. Even so I get only 2347 incidents in the US between 1970 and 2010. It is interesting that there were 480 in 1970, and 288 in 1971. There have been steadily fewer incidents from then till now. That seems scant justification for all the measures being taken against domestic terrorism. 

  • yy4u2

    The tree of liberty could use a good soaking.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      So, what, you ready to start shooting Americans?

      • Bat One

        An equal opportunity defender of liberty doesn’t much care what language is being spoken, Boob.

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          So B O, you ready to start shooting Americans too?

          • Bat One

            Why not?  I’ve been willing to shoot anyone who breaks into my home and threatens my family for years – regardless of what language he speaks, Spanish, “Ebonics”, or the King’s English.  I don’t see that I’m compelled to ask for a valid ID first.

    • Bat One

      Its already being pissed on by Obama and the Democrats!

  • yy4u2

    Cocainebasedbob, aka crackheadbob, when you quit putting words in my mouth, the rest of us adults will assume you took the fistful of cocks out of yours.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      In historical terms, just how was the tree of liberty to be watered and how would you have us interpret your ‘good soaking’ comment?

      • yy4u2

        I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.  Thomas Jefferson

        From Sir Winston Churchill:  Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 

        Forgive me for chuckling when you start out with ‘in historical terms.’ From your posts over the years, you would not be buddies with either of these people, nor do I think you learned from history when you think you know it.  In the words of Thomas Jefferson, the tree of liberty would be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.  He wrote this in a letter to a Williams Stephens Smith in 1787.  The American Revolutionary War went to 1783.  Thus, fighting and bloodshed was what he spoke of.  The US Constitution was adopted in 1787 and went into effect in 1789.  Since that time, we the people do not have to take up arms but rather can vote these tyrants out of office which was shown in 2010 to the Dems and in previous elections to so called Republicans.  I consider myself a patriot.  What do you consider yourself as?

        I was not going to be led down your rabbit hole with answering how you projected or interpretted my first statement.  I’m sure had I answered yes or no, you would have thrown more projection and interpretation while perfecting the ‘high five myself no friends’ dance.  Now run along crack pipe and do your projection and interpretation elsewhere as you enjoy your fistfuls.

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          Historically speaking, those are not Jefferson’s words.
          No cigar.

          • Bat One

            If he was quoting, rather than paraphrasing, he would have used quotation marks.  He’s far more linguistically capable than say Hanni is!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Really?  Then why didn’t he use quotation marks, he quoted Jefferson, verbatim? Hmmm?

            “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them…” – Thomas Jefferson

          • Onslaught1066

             Add “Paraphrase” to the monumental (eh, we’ll throw Monumental in as well) list of words you have no clue as to the meaning.

            I like how terrifically stupid you are, hannitwat.

          • Hanni

            Child molester, BAT didn’t realize that he had quoted Jefferson verbatim. It doesn’t matter that he also paraphrased Jefferson afterward.

            By the way, you are a fucking idiot.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             As famous as you are for your projection, Hanni, what should we infer from you accusing nearly everyone else on this board of being a “child molester” at one time or another?

            Or is this just the paucity of your language and debating skills, leaving you with nothing to resort to, except vile name calling?

          • Awfulorv

            Which causes me to question why Vile isn’t a more favorite surname among Liberal children?
             I’m sure, what with the  anti American diatribes, and general low talk, the brats are, constantly, subjected to at home, or commune, they’ve become, by age six or so, almost perfect examples of first class pricks.  Imagine what goes for conversation in the homes of most of the, nearby, Liberal contributors. Imagine their convoluted explanation of the abject failure of the, nightmarish, Barack Obama regime, for instance. 

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             Might explain their penchant for test tube babies, since they are conceived in a “vial”?

          • Onslaught1066

              “Imagine what goes for conversation in the homes of most of the, nearby, Liberal contributors.”

            I suspect it goes something like this:

            liberal: bend over son.

            liberal child: But daddy, it hurts.

            liberal: shut up and take it like a man, kid!

  • yy4u2

    Would a patriot or tyrant do this?

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Timothy McVeigh was “Reverent of Individual Liberty”, and subsequently murdered the largest number of Americans with a single terrorist attack.

    In fact the shirt McVeigh wore the day of the terrorist attack carries the quote you see most threatening Tea Baggers protesting with.

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

       

      “Timothy McVeigh…subsequently murdered the largest number of Americans with a single terrorist attack” 

      More than 9/11?

      …the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was destroyed on April 19, 1995, claiming 168 lives.

      In your math impaired world, Hannikins, how does 168 equal more than nearly 3,000?

      (It’s a rhetorical question, Hanni. You are a witless fool. )

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        This is why Poofy is the laughing stock of SAB; 9/11 had multiple terrorist attacks to equate to 3000, Poofy.

        In your math and English speaking impaired world, how do multiple terrorist attacks equate to a single terrorist attack?

        After you’re done pondering that question, why don’t you look up the word “subsequently” and tell me the year September 11 occurred, then compare that to the year the Oklahoma City Bombing occurred.

        You are a complete idiot.

        Let’s add “subsequently” to the long, long, long, long list of words you fail to understand their meaning. Oh wait, we should add the word “single” to that list as well. No worries, Poofy, you shouldn’t be embarrassed as it’s obvious that English is your second language.

        • alanstorm

           Hanni, I have read quite a few of your comments her; I have yet to read one that is coherent or contains facts.

          All but 125 of the 9/11 casualties were in New York.  So roughly 2800 and change were killed in a single terrorist attack…which, for the logic and math impaired, is a wee bit more than 168.  

          “Let’s add “subsequently” to the long, long, long, long list of words you fail to understand their meaning.”  I think you own that list of fail – especially since the grammar is poor.  The sentence being commented on says, paraphrased, “Timothy McVeigh was reverent of individual liberty, before he committed a terrorist act.”  So, did committing the act change his reverence of individual liberty, or did the change happen first?  What language did you originally speak?

          You are a complete idiot.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            “I have read quite a few of your comments her [sic]; I have yet to read one that is coherent or contains facts.

            And I haven’t seen one of your comments where you have ever spelled correctly, or have included facts.  Now that we both have stated our opinions, what do you have to say that’s relevant?

            All but 125 of the 9/11 casualties were in New York.

            That’s not factual.  So here you go again, spouting off things that aren’t facts.

            The Pentagon is in Washington.  I believe 60 died in the plane crash and another 150 or so in the Pentagon.  Then there was Flight 93.  And?  What else you got, Eisenstein?

            “So, did committing the act change his reverence of individual liberty,
            or did the change happen first?  What language did you originally speak?”

            I didn’t speak of any change.  I merely said he was “Reverent Of Individual Liberty” and subsequently committed the largest terrorist attack our country had ever seen.

            If you don’t know what the word subsequently means, I suggest you buy a dictionary.

            You are an idiot.

            Oh and my first, and only, language was always English, until I reached 23, where I picked up a couple more.

          • Onslaught1066

             Pig Latin and and greek, via frenching E-pederast don’t count as languages.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            If you weren’t math impaired, Tiny Poputchik, you would know that the 125 figure Mr. Storm quoted is far closer to the actual 223 figure (not counting the terrorists) than your math, that 168 is either greater than 2,773 or 2,996.  He missed his number by about a hundred.  You missed yours by over two thousand.
            Guess we really know who the “idiot” is here, don’t we, Tiny Poputchik?

            “the largest terrorist attack our country had ever seen.”
            Only that’s not what you said. That may be what you wished you had said. Try finishing second grade. Maybe you’ll do better this time?
            Now, look in the mirror and tell the idiot you see there that he really shouldn’t interrupt the adults when they are speaking.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, your inability to understand words like “subsequently” and “single” is your problem.  I can’t help you if you don’t understand English.

            You have no argument considering the use of those two words.  Worse, you can’t even make a correct argument by stating multiple attacks are a single event.  They aren’t.

            September 11th is not generally referring to a single attack, but a series of attacks, which is why the call them “The September 11th Attacks.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

            Lord help this poor child.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             And still, despite all your bleating, 168 is still not larger than 2,773.

            Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong, Tiny Poputchik?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             No matter how much you distract from the similarities of Timothy McVeigh and the Tea Party, McVeigh was reverent of individual liberty and subsequently murdered the largest number of Americans with a single attack.

            It is a familiar type. There are thousands, perhaps hundreds of
            thousands, of Americans who hold beliefs identical to McVeigh’s. He is a
            prototypical extreme-right zealot: He hates and fears the federal
            government, worships guns, fetishizes “liberty” (defined in almost
            purely negative terms, as freedom from external interference of
            any kind), embraces survivalism and sees himself as having acted in a
            proud American tradition of resistance to tyranny that goes back to the
            Founders. Throw in belief in the gold standard, certainty that a
            U.N.-run “New World Order” is poised to take over the world, racial
            resentment and an obsessive fixation on Ruby Ridge and Waco as proof
            that federal agents are jackbooted thugs waiting to make their final
            move, and the all-too-familiar portrait is complete.

            http://www.salon.com/2001/04/07/mcveigh_3/

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

           Hannitwit: You may pretend, if you so choose, that what happened on 9/11 wasn’t a single, coordinated attack on the US.  But even in your sick, demented, juvenile, nit picking (not “knit” picking) world, the 2,773 people who died at the World Trade Center alone is greater than (Note to tiny, toady, slimy POS trolls: that means “more than”) 168.

          BTW, English impaired POSitized, what I said was

          “In your math impaired world, Hannikins, how does 168 equal more than nearly 3,000?

          If you are rounding up by thousands (well, not you certainly, but perhaps someone with at least two functioning brain cells to rub together), anything over 2,500, rounds up to 3,000. Or as sane and rational adults might speak of it, 2,773 is “nearly 3,000″.  (We’ll chalk up “nearly” as yet another English word you haven’t a clue to its meaning. But, keep pretending you are me, Poseuritized, and copy my style, and we’ll still laugh at you, not with you. Try using more parentheticals, too!  If you can ever figure out what they are!)

          So, by either measure, you are a mind numbingly stupid POS who wants to quibble whether nearly 3,000 Americans died in one coordinated attack or a series of attacks, when nearly 3000 people lost their lives when the WTC was attacked for the second time on September 11, 2001. (The first WTC attack was under Bill Clinton.).

          And you can hide behind the word “subsequently” all you want, since you didn’t really reference it to any time frame with 9/11 in it.  Had you perhaps added “at that time”, or something like it, you might not have looked like such a complete fool. But, you and your fellow travelers might be under the misapprehension that you somehow are given points for what you wished you had said. This is why I strongly suggest you find a blog with training wheels, until you have learned to converse sanely and rationally with adults.

          You may now return to your irrelevance.  Your projection in referring to anyone else here, other than yourself, as a “laughing stock” is duly noted.

          And after that last mindless rant of yours, Tiny Poputchik, what I said about you being a “witless fool” is certainly an understatement.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, your inability to understand words like “subsequently” and “single” is your problem.  I can’t help you if you don’t understand English.

            You have no argument considering the use of those two words.  Worse, you can’t even make a correct argument by stating multiple attacks are a single event.  They aren’t.

            September 11th is not generally referring to a single attack, but a series of attacks, which is why the call them “The September 11th Attacks.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

            Lord help this poor child.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “Tiny Poputchik, what I said about you being a “witless fool” is certainly an understatement.” I stand by my statement.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Denial is part of your survival strategy, of course you cling to it.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             Sorry! I just don’t suffer fools lightly. Even tiny, little sawed off ones like you…

            Take this as my answer to your next two replies as well, and stop clogging my inbox. See if you can get your affirmation from someone closer to your intellect…like shower mold!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            So no mirrors in your house then?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             http://www.murderpedia.org/male.M/images/m/mcveigh/mcveigh702.jpg

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             No matter how much you distract from the similarities of Timothy McVeigh and the Tea Party, McVeigh was reverent of individual liberty and subsequently murdered the largest number of Americans with a single attack.

            It is a familiar type. There are thousands, perhaps hundreds of
            thousands, of Americans who hold beliefs identical to McVeigh’s. He is a
             prototypical extreme-right zealot: He hates and fears the federal
            government, worships guns, fetishizes “liberty” (defined in almost
            purely negative terms, as freedom from external interference of
            any kind), embraces survivalism and sees himself as having acted in a
            proud American tradition of resistance to tyranny that goes back to the
            Founders. Throw in belief in the gold standard, certainty that a
            U.N.-run “New World Order” is poised to take over the world, racial
            resentment and an obsessive fixation on Ruby Ridge and Waco as proof
            that federal agents are jackbooted thugs waiting to make their final
            move, and the all-too-familiar portrait is complete.

            http://www.salon.com/2001/04/07/mcveigh_3/

  • Godblessamerica

    And I escaped from now a former communist central European country just to be subject to same tactics in the U.S. Make no mistake, those that strive to divide us, and keep us divided, purchase these kinds of “scholarly reports” in order to exercise their will over us. Beware.

  • BillBoyBaggins

    We had several “bomb threats” when I was in high school in the 70’s.  It was always some kid calling in a prank, and everyone knew it, but the building was evac’d, anyway.  According to their own definition of the term “terrorism”, this sort of thing must be counted among the 2,600 total “attacks” DHS is claiming.

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