Hoeven: North Dakota Is Prosperous Because Of Government Spending

Governor John Hoeven has an op/ed in the Bismarck Tribune today defending North Dakota’s out-of-control higher education spending in the face of criticism launched by Dr. Richard Vedder and the North Dakota Policy Council. In the op/ed Hoeven attribute’s North Dakota’s recent prosperity not to a booming oil industry or the stable and strong coal industry or even the bumper crops the state’s ag industry has enjoyed over the last several years but rather on the massive amount of spending on higher education and “economic development” in this state.
An excerpt:

Richard Vedder’s recent letter criticizing our support for higher education in North Dakota is more than a little ironic. As the nation struggles through a severe national recession, most North Dakotans continue to work and raise their standard of living. They do so, in large measure, because of our state’s aggressive economic development efforts in recent years, many of which link our universities with the private sector.

Hoeven goes on to claim that we’ve cut taxes in North Dakota, but in reality these “tax cuts” are little more than an accounting trick. The governor and the legislator have engaged in more state-level spending at the local level in the hope that this spending would allow local taxing entities to roll back their property taxes. Of course, a lot of North Dakotans ended up paying more in property taxes anyway as local taxing entities jacked up home valuations. So even as property tax rates have perhaps stopped growing, because home valuations have skyrocketed (by government estimates, naturally) North Dakotans are paying more.
That’s hardly tax relief.
As for “aggressive economic development efforts in recent years,” let’s look around at some of those economic development projects. Right here in my home town companies lured here by this much-hyped “economic development” spending have been dropping like flies. Sykes. Z-tel. Websmart. And now rumor is that travel reservation booking call center MLT may be leaving town as well. In other places in the state companies like Alien Technology in Fargo, Imation in Wahpeton and Bobcat in Bismarck have closed down operations or moved operations despite tens of millions of dollars in investment from the taxpayers.
And higher education spending? That’s hardly been a boon for the state. North Dakota taxpayers spend more subsidizing the education of students who don’t even live in the state, and aren’t likely to stay once they get their degrees, than they spend on educating actual North Dakotans. And given the rampant abuses of funding in the higher education system (see: the NDSU President’s mansion scandal), it’s clear that we’re spending too much money on higher education.
One has to wonder what version of reality Governor Hoeven is living in where the gigantic increases state spending he’s presided over have had a greater impact on our economy than oil, coal and prosperous farming years.
Perhaps the same version of reality President Barack Obama, who remains convinced that his “stimulus” spending is, in fact, creating jobs, is living in.

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  • http://Array sayanything-4422

    Not so sure I want to vote for this guy. Probably the 1 monkey that would lose to Dorgan of Pomeroy.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I don’t mind supporting ND kids no matter where they might go. But the
    Universities have ceased being about the students. They’re all about having
    more underworked people getting paid more for doing less.

    I suppose that Hoeven’s going to base his potential Senate run on the fact
    that government spending is all that makes us wealthy?

  • sayanything-4124

    There is a line in the Hunt For Red October that keeps coming to mind lately, and it seems to be extending to almost every politician in state and national. I think it sums up exactly what is and has for years, been going on.

    Said to the Captain of the Russian sub sent to hunt down and destroy Red October before she can defect, after taking all fail safe measures away from the warhead :

    You arrogant ass! You’ve killed us!

    What might we have accomplished had we kept the money in the state.

  • sayanything-9974

    The governor (himself) is probably prospering quite nicely from the federal spending. It sure makes you wonder how an idiot like that gets elected. The American public can be fooled but we are not fools.

  • sayanything-2227

    “North Dakota taxpayers spend more subsidizing the education of students who don’t even live in the state, and aren’t likely to stay once they get their degrees, than they spend on educating actualNorth Dakotans.”

    That’s exactly what I saw at NDSU. About 1 in 10 maybe 1 in 15 of the guys I knew there stayed in North Dakota. The rest spread to the wind. I don’t know if that is representative of the college as a whole but it was typical in Engineering from what I saw.

    I’m sure the tax payers in the state are happy to spend thousands to educated our youth just to see them exported.

    By the way, most left because that is where the jobs were, not because of some dislike for North Dakota.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I know I know. People would have spent the money in the state and real
    businesses creating real jobs would have popped up.

    As it is to keep the Hoeven system going every year we need to pay the
    parasites more and more every legislative session.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    What we’re really doing is subsidizing our of state kids to come here and
    leave when their education was over.

    That doesn’t work for anyone but the underworked overpaid University
    employees.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Actually no. Those public-private partnerships at the universities have
    turned out to be nothing but drains of our money. They don’t attract private
    money and they don’t create real jobs. Once the free government money runs
    out so do the jobs.

  • jimmypop

    what the short doooood fails to miss is this; what would have happened if we had never taken this money form private business from the start? if we have said, ‘we dont need that $1.2B. we are conservative here in ND. we would rather let the local folks keep it. so, we are writing a check for $25,000 to each and every person that have lived in north dakota for more than 5 years as a BIG ‘thank you’ for your loyalty to our state.’ what does he think would have happened?

  • lock’em’up

    I’d probably vote for him again. I kind of like these rinos. I hope you don’t get rid of all of them, they really dilute the Republican party.

  • sayanything-43

    The citizens aren’t getting anything for all of this increased spending. If we’re spending 60% more money over the last two legislative sessions then we should be seeing something.

    Special interests are doing well, but not the average guy.

  • sayanything-2227

    btw, this is a really good post Rob! Wraps it up real nice for folks.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Well not only are we subsidizing kids to go somewhere else (and subsidizing
    kids who have never and will never live here) but tuition for North Dakotans
    who want to send their kids to one of these colleges keeps going through the
    roof.

  • sayanything-7134

    “state’s aggressive economic development efforts in recent years, many of which link our universities with the private sector” the last part of the statement is the most important reason for higher ed. The research that leads to new or improved products allowing your private business to expand. Thats one of the great reasons for higher ed.

  • sayanything-7134

    so seed research, energy research, medical research , adon’t happen in the University system?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    The research that leads to new or improved products allowing your private business to expand. Thats one of the great reasons for higher ed.

    Uh, no. Most product improvement and break-throughs come through private research and development.

    That’s how the world works.

    I won’t say the government has no role in funding certain types of research, but these “Centers of Excellence” are a waste of time as evidence by their utter failure in attracting private dollars.

  • sayanything-101

    North Dakota is just a big welfare state for those with the connections to collect big government subsidies and enjoy cushy government jobs.

  • sayanything-7134

    go hand and hand. Is there waste in higher ed (presidents house) oh yeah. And the wonderful technicians, scientists, engineers just happen to learn their skills from just hanging around. It is interwoven together.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    don’t try to set up a stawman. I acknowledged that the government has a role in subsidizing certain types of research. But claiming that as economic stimulus is ridiculous.

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