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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Hillary’s Speech “Not Exactly A Ringing Endorsement” Of Obama

Alex Castellanos gives what I think is the best summation of Hillary’s speech at the Democrat convention tonight:

If had to title this speech, I would call it Clinton’s “Lesser of Two Evils” speech.

She gave all the reasons she ran for president and then said if you believe in those, vote for the Democratic nominee.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Speaking of ringing, she said nothing about the questions she has raised about Obama’s preparedness to be president.

Hillary isn’t ready to see to come right out and say that she would rather see McCain in the White House than Obama (though that would be the optimal situation to set up Hillary in 2012), but it’s clear that unity between the Clinton and Obama camps within the Democrat party is far from a sure thing.

She did what she had to do out of loyalty to her party, I think, but if the Obama people were expecting Hillary to unite the party tonight they’re going to be disappointed.  There’s still a chance Obama can bring things together with his acceptance of the nomination at Invesco, but with bitterness still palpable among the Clinton faithful and the Democrats’ last elected President not even going to be in attendance at Invesco it seems as though the Obama campaign is just going to have to learn to live with a fractured party.

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You are delusional.

It was a great speech and strong endorsement of Obama

Lestat on August 26, 2008 at 09:45 pm
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Says you, and you’re obviously 100% objective about everything that has to do with your Messiah right?

Which isn’t to say that I am objective, but if you couldn’t pick up on Hillary’s bitterness you’re either blind or not being honest with yourself.


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Rob on August 26, 2008 at 09:47 pm

Letstat:

It was a great speech and strong endorsement of Obama

LOL.

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right

Carrick on August 26, 2008 at 09:53 pm

Carrick,

LOL.....right

Shrug.....it was.  Glad to see you guys jumped on the Obama train and found “hope”....because that is all you’ve got if you think that was bitter.

*Obama said knock you out*


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Hannitized on August 26, 2008 at 10:23 pm

What Rob won’t tell you:

“I wan’t you to ask yourselves, were you in this campaign just for me, or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him?  Were you in it for that Mom struggling with cancer while struggling to raise her kids?  Were you in it for that young boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage?  Were you in it for all these people in this country who feel invisible?

We need leaders once again, who can tap into that special blend of American confidence and optimism that has enabled generations before us to meet our toughest challenges.  Leaders who can help us show ourselves and the world that with our ingenuity, creativity and innovative spirit, there are no limits to what is possible in America.

Now, this will not be easy, progress never is.  But it will be impossible if we don’t fight to put a Democrat back into the White House.

WE NEED to elect Barack Obama!!!” - Hilllary Clinton 2008

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Hannitized on August 26, 2008 at 11:58 pm
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Ok, let’s step back for a minute and put ourselves in Hillary’s shoes.

Why in the world, if you were Hillary and wanted to one day be POTUS, would you POSSIBLY want Obama to be elected?  Occam’s Razor Answer (simplest solution is the best) - you wouldn’t.

So you give a speech that is 90% about you with a tip of the hat to Obama so that people can say you took one for the team and that’s it.  You also make your followers think, “Wow, SHE should have been the nominee!  SHE should have been the VP on the ticket!”

I think this speech tonight will do far more to create buyer’s remorse amongst Hillary Supporters than unity with the Obama ticket.  Especially if they realize as I do that Hillary can’t possibly REALLY want Obama to win.

P.S., Of course the MSM will now announce that the party is unified and Obama is unbeatable.  I also expect left-leaning polling organizations (aren’t they all) to adjust the samples however they need to to get a HUGE bounce for Obama from this speech.

Even Gallup, after announcing that McCain was ahead by 2 points yesterday said we should “expect” a big move towards Obama after Hillary’s speech - odd thing for a “scientific” polling organization to declare.

Bill Mitchell on August 27, 2008 at 03:09 am
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If Obama was arrested for being an “Agent of Change”, would there be enough evidence to convict him?

Obama supporters, please list for me 5 examples of dramatic change Obama has brought about in his public or private career thus far.  How about 4?  3 maybe?  How about 2?

P.S., Changing all of his positions from what he ran on in the primaries doesn’t count.

Bill Mitchell on August 27, 2008 at 03:13 am

I frankly don’t care if they’re united or not.

They stand against everything I’ve worked for, and my father has worked for, and my grandfather has worked for…

They’ve taken (taxed away) all they created and now want mine and all generations to come.

Change?

Where is it exactly....

golfmann on August 27, 2008 at 04:05 am
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Pretty standard DNC rabble rousing.

November’s race is wide open and if McCain makes the right choice of running mate Obama could find himself with a real fight on his hands.

We’ll just have to wait and see how strongly Hilary supports him when that happens.

Greg on August 27, 2008 at 04:26 am

I am honored to be here tonight,
A proud mother,
A proud Democrat,
A proud American

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And a proud supporter of Barack Obama.

...And you haven’t worked so hard over the last 18 months, or endured the last eight years, to suffer through more failed leadership.

No way. No how. No McCain.

Barack Obama is my candidate. And he must be our president.


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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 05:13 am

RBB, Hillary did have a few things to say about Barack.  But funny thing is, she mostly told you why you shouldn’tvote for McCain, rather than why you should vote for Obama.

Your intellectually dishonest cut and paste of her speech even makes that clear.

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 05:37 am

Which is to say in a nutshell “not_exactly_a_ringing_endorsement_of_obama”.

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 05:38 am

Along the way, America lost two great Democratic champions who would have been here with us tonight. One of our finest young leaders, Arkansas Democratic Party chair, Bill Gwatney, who believed with all his heart that America and the south could be and should be Democratic from top to bottom.

And congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a dear friend to many of us, a loving mother and courageous leader who never gave up her quest to make America fairer and smarter, stronger and better. Steadfast in her beliefs, a fighter of uncommon grace, she was an inspiration to me and to us all.

Our heart goes out to Stephanie’s son, Mervyn, Jr, and Bill’s wife, Rebecca, who traveled to Denver to join us at our convention.

Bill and Stephanie knew that after eight years of George Bush, people are hurting at home, and our standing has eroded around the world. We have a lot of work ahead.

Jobs lost, houses gone, falling wages, rising prices. The supreme court in a right-wing headlock and our government in partisan gridlock. The biggest deficit in our nation’s history. Money borrowed from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis.

Putin and Georgia, Iraq and Iran.

I ran for president to renew the promise of America. To rebuild the middle class and sustain the American dream, to provide the opportunity to work hard and have that work rewarded, to save for college, a home and retirement, to afford the gas and groceries and still have a little left over each month.

To promote a clean energy economy that will create millions of green collar jobs.

To create a healthcare system that is universal, high-quality and affordable so that parents no longer have to choose between care for themselves or their children or be stuck in dead end jobs simply to keep their insurance.

To create a world-class education system and make college affordable again.

To fight for an America defined by deep and meaningful equality - from civil rights to labour rights, from women’s rights to gay rights, from ending discrimination to promoting unionisation to providing help for the most important job there is: caring for our families. To help every child live up to his or her God-given potential.

To make America once again a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws.

To bring fiscal sanity back to Washington and make our government an instrument of the public good, not of private plunder.

To restore America’s standing in the world, to end the war in Iraq, bring our troops home and honor their service by caring for our veterans.

And to join with our allies to confront our shared challenges, from poverty and genocide to terrorism and global warming.

Most of all, I ran to stand up for all those who have been invisible to their government for eight long years.

Those are the reasons I ran for president. Those are the reasons I support Barack Obama. And those are the reasons you should too.


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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 05:41 am

Thanks for proving my point.  Where is the Obama endorsement.  This is an endorsement of the generic Democratic platform.

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 05:49 am

Your point is dull.


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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 05:50 am

Childish response.

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 05:54 am

Quote of the night: “Many delegates left feeling they had nominated the wrong person”.

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 05:54 am

Actually it was one of Hillary’s better speeches. It certainly showed that the Democrats selected the wrong candidate and it definately proved Barry chose the wrong running mate. I found it interesting that the bulk of her speech was about herself and then she included Barry as a “tag-on” to her own accomplishments.

Barry says NO Hillary, NO WAY, NO HOW. (Huge mistake)

McCain has nothing to fear in this election.

Mickey on August 27, 2008 at 05:58 am

She has “hope” but what about faith?  Nope, I don’t think so. Let’s not forget what she said repeatedly & with conviction, about Obama during the primary.

IF faith is the realization of what is hoped for then what exactly has Obama done to encourage faith in his abilities?

Recent revelations about his character and judgement lead us [and the real Hillary]to only one conclusion: NOTHING

You can’t lead the free world on HOPE. Just askk Jimma.

Joel on August 27, 2008 at 06:00 am

Good to see you nutters swallowing the gop/fox talking points.

The foxtard (Wallace) on the floor during Sen. Clinton’s speech reported something very different than what the talking boobs in the studio tried to push.

It was hysterical to watch Hume el al get hot and bothered by what ole Chris had to say.


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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 06:08 am

I’m predicting an overwhelming McCain victory followed almost immediately by a replay of The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising.

Joel on August 27, 2008 at 06:19 am
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Quote of the night:  “No way. No how. No McCain.”

andydakota on August 27, 2008 at 06:23 am

rbb.

We all realize that plagerism is acceptable in democrat circles but the term “nutter” will always only apply to liberals.

NObama

Mickey on August 27, 2008 at 06:45 am

Good to see you nutters swallowing the gop/fox talking points.

James Carville is a gopper, you retard?

Carrick on August 27, 2008 at 06:46 am

rbb

She said virtually nothing about Obama’s capacity to lead the nation. In effect, she expressed the hope that he would follow her program and priorities in office.  She followed the script of the DNC Convention which is that John McCain would be “four more years” of the Bush administration but she preceded it with the words,

“John McCain is my colleague and my friend”

which made the dismissal of him sound hollow. This speech was about her and her future. It sent the message that she is the rightfull candidate in this match. And it was a classic Clinton show stopper. Only Bill can seal this soap opera tonight, and he will.

NObama.

Mickey on August 27, 2008 at 07:30 am

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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 07:49 am

rbb,

When McCain wins what will be your whine? Just currious.

Mickey on August 27, 2008 at 08:23 am

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Onslaught on August 27, 2008 at 08:35 am

Nutters crack me up.


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realitybasedbob on August 27, 2008 at 08:40 am

Harry told me to tell you he said “Hi”


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Onslaught on August 27, 2008 at 08:49 am

I’m predicting an overwhelming McCain victory followed almost immediately by a replay of The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising.

Ha!  Of course you would.  And I won’t forget to remind you of this when the riots you hope for fail to occur.

Why do you hate America so much that you wish for the worst reaction from half the country?  Also known as wishful thinking.


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Hannitized on August 27, 2008 at 09:38 am

More “not_exactly_a_ringing_endorsements”.

“I am honored today to give my full support to Sen. McCain’s candidacy for the presidency of the United States,” Romney said in a joint news conference with Sen. McCain by his side.

One source said Romney wants to endorse McCain “in the interest of healing.”

The source said Romney also wants to help McCain move faster to “secure the nomination and unite the party for the general election against the Democrats for November.”

Romney will “release” his delegates to McCain, meaning he will encourage them to get behind McCain’s candidacy, the source said.

Romney had collected 286 delegates before he suspended his campaign two weeks ago.


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Hannitized on August 27, 2008 at 09:45 am

What Romney really thinks?

“I understand he’s anxious to try and see if he can’t get the topic away from the economy. But I’m going to remind him of his statements time and again about his lack of understanding of the economy,” Romney said.


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Hannitized on August 27, 2008 at 09:50 am
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Thanks for proving my point.  Where is the Obama endorsement.  This is an endorsement of the generic Democratic platform.

From the speech:

I am honored to be here tonight. A proud mother. A proud Democrat. A proud American. And a proud supporter of Barack Obama.

Barack Obama is my candidate. And he must be our President.

We need to elect Barack Obama because we need a President who understands that America can’t compete in a global economy by padding the pockets of energy speculators, while ignoring the workers whose jobs have been shipped overseas. We need a President who understands that we can’t solve the problems of global warming by giving windfall profits to the oil companies while ignoring opportunities to invest in new technologies that will build a green economy.

And when Barack Obama is in the White House, he’ll revitalize our economy, defend the working people of America, and meet the global challenges of our time.

But remember, before we can keep going, we have to get going by electing Barack Obama president.

Hawk on August 27, 2008 at 10:14 am

And when Barack Obama is in the White House, he’ll revitalize our economy, defend the working people of America, and meet the global challenges of our time.

By raising taxes in an economic slowdown. I musta missed the econ class where they said raising the price of fuel, which runs our economy...will strengthen our economy.


For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

Kenny on August 27, 2008 at 11:52 am

From the speech:

I am honored to be here tonight. A proud mother. A proud Democrat. A proud American. And a proud supporter of Barack Obama.

From the Clinton:

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.


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Onslaught on August 27, 2008 at 11:58 am

I’m predicting an overwhelming McCain victory followed almost immediately by a replay of The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising.

Joel on August 27, 2008 at 06:19 am

Joel. Do you wish to bet $1000.00 that a replay of The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising, will not occur?

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I am honored to be here tonight. A proud mother. A proud Democrat. A proud American.

If I recall the video, there was a slight pause (undoubtedly scripted) after “proud Democrat”, then she looked right into the camera and said “A proud American”.

Kudos to her speech writer and director! A competent, if unconvincing performance!


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Proof on August 27, 2008 at 12:13 pm

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Interesting that you would wager $1000 against the riots, but not a penny on an Obama victory!?

Smart choice.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on August 27, 2008 at 12:16 pm

e,

Interesting that you would wager $1000 against the riots, but not a penny on an Obama victory!?

Smart choice.


Bat One on August 27, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Bat One,

Got to smack right wing nuts and wakadoos when they make stupid predictions. Now lets see if she/he is woman/man enough to put her/his money where her/his mouth is.
As for who is going to be the next president, I know who I want as president, but cannot predict who will be elected.

ellinas on August 27, 2008 at 03:42 pm

… there is no way Hillary drops out.  The Clintons are so power-hungry I think they’d gladly torpedo Obama just go get another shot in 2012.

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realitybasedbob on August 28, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Rob was surprisingly prescient, given that he lacks a scrying orb.  HIllary has positioned herself quite well with her speech for a run in 2012 assuming an Obama defeat.

Carrick on August 28, 2008 at 01:07 pm
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