R108,

Despite is obvious and well founded sadness at what the Democrat party had become, Zell has never considered himself anything but an American, a Marine, and a Democrat.

Besides, as illustrated by the “purge” of Joe Lieberman for far less than McCain has done, the Stalinist Dems are much quicker to jettison any break in ranks than are the Republicans.

Which simply proves once again the point that there is nothing particularly democratic about the Democrats. The party of diversity and inclusiveness is anything but.

The difference between Clinton and Stalin, with regard to their ideological status, is that Stalin was a dictator.

In the first place, I didn’t say that Hillary was Stalin, only that she is Stalinist. She is a wannabe dictator, though:

“I want to take those profits, and use them for the common good.” – Hillary Clinton

The meaning of Stalinist, is that someone rules by eliminating their competition, ruthlessly, which certainly applies to Hillary.

There’s winning . . .and then there’s winning.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-willards-queen-rat-and.html

On a(possibly) humorous note, the sometimes irascible but lately jocose McCain will appear side by side with endearing and lovely HR Clinton on Fox News Sunday.

Should be a real love-fest.

Well…I noted someone stated that Clinton was Marxist.

Read up on her mentor, Saul Alinsky.

I’ve been reading Ann’s columns for many years.

She is NOT kidding. She has been putting out the TRUTH about McCain for a very very long time.

You guys seem to forget, he was a candidate in 2000 – following a decade of viciously Liberal conduct in the Senate AT THAT TIME.

We didn’t vote for him THEN – and we won’t vote for him NOW.

And think of all the Conservatives who stayed home both in 2000 and 2004 – even against Hanoi John – EVEN IN TEXAS – and did not vote for BUSH.

EVEN THEY would not go vote for McSanta Anna.

I will never vote for him.

I agree with Ann Coulter TOTALLY.

Many of you CLAIM you tallied the GOP and believe McSwine is “ELECTABLE” – but you didn’t count a LOT of GOP voters when you came to that decision. Those POLLS don’t tell you TOTAL TURNOUT in the ELECTION. they just tell you how one select CLOSED group of poll takers answered on a given day. NOTHING MORE.

But you are witnessing the strongest outpouring of deepest anger and largest numbers of absolutely revolted people who have been telling you ABSOLUTELY for YEARS to get off these %#%#%%$% RINOS, or else – and you just laugh at us.

Now, the Rubber hits the ROAD.

You sure did NOT count ME.

I will not vote for him.

I voted for Bush, but most of the Conservatives I know – IN TEXAS – stayed home and did not vote for Bush. I did everything I could to drag them to the voting booths beating them to death about Algore and Hanoi John.
McSANTA ANNA ALLIES!!!

THEY certainly will not vote for Bush.

THEN, those who won’t vote LEFT of Bush, like those who refused to vote for Robert Dole and Gerald Ford – THEY will not vote for Bush.

What have you got to threaten us with?

We survived Clinton and Carter because you MODERATES insisted on those we warned you not to support IF YOU WERE DOING SO BASED ON COUNTING ON US TO BAIL YOU OUT in the General Election.

I will sleep with GREAT PEACE, if Romney is defeated in the Primary – when I go to the General Election AND VOTE FOR A WRITE-IN, and go home WITH A CLEAN CONSCIENCE and watch the GOP get what it deserves – at long last.

I have learned a power and horrible lesson – I will NOT celebrate the defeat and destruction of the GOP – I have learned THAT lesson – it is scriptural, you know! – but I will sleep the peace of a wife who finally realized it is STUPID to lie to herself and stay with an ABUSIVE AND MURDEROUS husband – and finally leaves, and realizes it is NOT the end of the world to have a home of peace and quiet, even with little.

I will have Peace that passes all understanding.

You who think that McSwine is the BE-ALL and END-ALL can have your own just rewards.

Enjoy!

I have found a site that advertises FREE HILLARY T-SHIRTS to those who promise to vote for her.

IF ROMNEY LOSES the PRIMARY – I will order a lot of those shirts.

And I will write on them – “REMEMBER THE ALAMO!”

If anyone tries to fuss at me who still has DOORS on their own personal OWNED home, and does NOT have NEON SIGNS inthe front yard inviting the STREET GANGS to come and make themselves at home, I will fill your ears with accounts of those in this community alone who have paid the ultimate price for McSWINE’S policies – and I will give you the gory details of several different families, and strangely, in most cases, it was the DAUGHTERS who found their PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS who were mutilated beyond your wildest imaginations – FOR FUN!

This is the end of the line for me – I will no longer TOLERATE any OPEN BORDERS #%#%%$%#$%#$%$# policies in my political party.

Not from ANYONE. If that policy and those candidates are more important to some of you than the NUMBERS NEEDED to beat out the DIMS – then THAT is YOUR choice.

And I am content to let you have it so.

Carrick,

McCain on the other hand, was one of the architects of the surge.

I know he was in favor of the surge, but one of the architects?

This is all so interesting….I’m a dem supporting Hillary. However, if dems nominate Obama…then I’ll be voting for an elephant.

If he were a Democrat, McCain would be considered a conservative Democrat…

R108,

What you say is true. But Zell Miller, Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson and the rest didn’t go out of their way to stick their finger in the eye of their party’s loyalists, as does McCain with such obvious relish.

I am not sure that being the leader of the USA is a reward. It is almost like torture these days.

Besides, Hillary is less of a conservative than McCain; she is a Marxist, in the full Stalinist mode.

Precisely.

I think Ann was using hyperbole to make a point, as she often does.

If she is kidding this time, I hope she lets us in on the joke. I am pretty sure she is serious about this.

McCain supported closing down Gitmo, bringing them here, and giving them civilian trials with full constitutional rights, no matter who originated the idea.

Torture and POW treatment are obviously personal issues for McCain. He gets an official pass from me on this. Gitmo is but a minor part of the War on Terror in any event.

Besides, McCain doesn’t seem to have a clue about how our free enterprise system works, which is a worse handicap, in my book.

And Hillary does?

The elections in November will also include the House and Senate races. Ann has a point, but John, who I supported in 2000 is not a communist.

Juan McCain does support many socialist policies and socialism is simply the mid-step between capitalism and communism, so by his often standing with the Liberal-Socialists in Congress he may not be a registered, card carrying communist, but the tendencies and sympathies towards communism do exist in McCain’s record.

I will not vote for McCain! If elected for 4-8 years it will be a constant dripping of painful collaborations with the socialist Senate and House and a destruction of conservative principles.

Off point: The only thing Juan McCain deserves as a result of his torture in North Vietnam is the medals he already received, it does not qualify him to lead this country, POTUS is not a reward for past behavior. In fact, his sympathies towards North Vietnam in recent years and his communist sympathies, even going there several times, tells me he could win election in North Vietnam, a well deserved reward.

Proof,

No one on the this side of the aisle thinks Clinton would be a good thing for our country.

But McCain could also screw up things up. If, or when, he does I don’t want some fence-sitting, liberal-leaning, boorish plebe of an independant to get the wrong impression that he is conservative.

One of the biggest of all myths,(and I hear reporters, commentators and pundits repeat it over and over) is this: ‘the american people are smarter than that.’

What a crock!!

If you removed most of the people on this site and all conservatives across the nation to some remote island, the national I.Q. would drop to that of a protist.

There. Now don’t yell at me, my head hurts.

Hi Zsa Zsa. The elections in November will also include the House and Senate races. Ann has a point, but John, who I supported in 2000 is not a communist.

In the first place, I didn’t say that Hillary was Stalin, only that she is Stalinist.

Never said you did!

With her as President, we would have no voice in govt at all.
Think about it.

I have thought about it. I also have an enduring faith in our constitution, as I know you do.

People in this country have blamed conservatives for the lack of restraint shown by Republicans.

If the meliorate McCain is elected, coservatives will again be mistakenly blamed.

Keefer, please explain why..?

Look, Clinton will govern center left like her husband did, especially when faced with a Republican filibuster in the Senate.

Here’s a quote from the “centrist” Hillary:

“I want to take those profits, and use them for the common good.”

Pure Marxism.

McCain is a wind blown fool. You spin the guy around three times and he’s not going to know which way he wanted to go.

Hillary is a hard core Marxist with one very left and very strong path that isn’t deviated away from.

The two candidates don’t compare too well.

Carrick,

I can not say ANYTHING negative about McCain on fighting the war IN Iraq. He was/is/always right on his stance. That said, he has no moral compass. You never know where this guy lands on an issue. At least Hillary is consistant.

Didn’t she “date” Robert Guccione, Jr.? What do you expect?

This is all so interesting….I’m a dem supporting Hillary. However, if dems nominate Obama…then I’ll be voting for an elephant.

I appreciate your candor, Keefer, and would like to hear your reasoning behind that position. Please elucidate.

Well…I noted someone stated that Clinton was Marxist. I actually feel she is more centrist than the other democratic candidates and more consistent. I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative and ironically, I feel Obama is far to liberal and “lets all feel good”. Unfortunately, we primarily have only a two party system and there is never one candidate that represents all of my stances on issues. However, when I hear Obama..I never really here any specifics. He is a good speaker but it all seems like a lot of fluff to me and I just don’t trust him. I know that is pretty subjective…it’s that I would trust a Republican more than Obama. But I’m not a GOP basher…I voted for Bush in 88, Bush in 92, Dole in 96 and Bush in 00…but then I voted for Kerry in 04. I guess 88 was the last time I voted for a winning candidate! LOL

And Hillary does?

Not the point at all; neither one of them is fit to guide us economically, in any way at all.

Hi Chief!

But according to Ann Coulter, Hillary would be better on Iraq. So how does that work again?

Assuming Ann isn’t pulling your leg(and I think she is), McCain wants to shut down Gitmo, bring the terrorist scum to the continental US, and give them civilian trials with full access to classified material, all the constitutional rights that US citizens enjoy. That’s “strong on national defense”? You must be joking. Wesley Clark was also a military man…once.
All of you who are attacking Ann are doing what you are accusing her of doing, anyway; abandoning someone who has been a strong conservative for purely emotional reasons. McCain isn’t a strong conservative, though, by any means.

Torture and POW treatment are obviously personal issues for McCain. He gets an official pass from me on this. Gitmo is but a minor part of the War on Terror in any event.

While I might give him a pass for feeling that way, it is also a legitimate reason not to want him anywhere near the WH where he could act on those feelings. McCain lives in the past. He can not get over his years as a POW. I don’t blame him for this, I’d be badly scarred too, but that experience makes him a military hero, it no way qualified/qualifies him to be President.

The answer is CCON08. McCain will be there. People need to pressure him to pledge on issues that matter to conservatives. A lot of what happens in a White House are influenced by the President’s advisors. (Look at the difference in how the war is being waged under Gates vs Rumsfeld for example).

Unless you are a statist and want Ein Vater to lead you, you probably believe that democracy works, and this means among other things that a group of people is always smarter than any one, no matter how smart that individual. In that alternative view, the President to a degree serves at whim of his constituents.

Even if you have a somewhat insularly president like Bush, if the voice of the people is loud enough, he listens.

But the point is, you walk away, you’ve thrown away any say you have in the matter.

She has already endorsed Mitt Romney. I think she was being sarcastic. I said the same thing the other day to make a point. I have, however, revised my statement to say that I would even vote for wacky Ron Paul before voting for John McCain or any other democrat.

Robert108,, McCain’s stance on tax cuts is worrisome, though nothing compared to Hillary or Obama.

The president serves and represents those who vote for him first. If you don’t support him, don’t expect him to listen to you either.

McCain is a “traitor to the party!” (Republicans), so I will vote for a liberal Democrat!

How does one get one’s mind into that small of a box? Perhaps I err, in assuming there is a mind at all?

Hillary and McCain are identical on: taxes, borders/immigration, education, war (Hillary may claim to be against the war, but she has publically said she won’t end it and voted for Petraes), free speech, etc.

The difference is not in their record, but in their rhetoric. Hillary must pander to the far left….McCain must pretend to be a conservative.

Whereas Hillary may get opposition from Republicans, McCain won’t. We will get a socialist either way. If we elect Hillary, it’ll most likely get us a republican congress again. Liberals will be blamed for the socialist problems. If we elect McCain, Republicans will be blamed.

Let me see… Hillary the one who said that believing Petraeus and Crocker requires ‘willing suspension of disbelief’. McCain on the other hand, was one of the architects of the surge.

But according to Ann Coulter, Hillary would be better on Iraq. So how does that work again?

As always, you once again prove yourself to be a clueless fool

I’m not the Mitt Romney supporter! I’m not a John McCain supporter either, but you can’t seem to get that through your thick skull!
Having said that, if McCain is Hillary light, what kind of clueless fool goes for the real thing? Who would be stronger on national defense?
Between Hillary and McCain, it’s McCain, hands down.
If you want to sit in your basement and pout, go right ahead! But please don’t torture logic as to say “John McCain is a liberal, let’s vote for the bigger liberal”. Sheesh!

BTW, Shill. I know that logic has departed you and you have nothing but name calling. Still, it seems infantile even for you!

You… are the kind of fool that would have argued in favor of wheeling the TROJAN HORSE into the city.

You, Bill, are the kind of fool who plays with used Trojans! Have fun with all your scumbag friends! ( Be sure to wash your hands before you eat!)

According to the intel people, Gitmo is a major recruitment vehicle for the terrorists. In retrospect, creating such a high-visibility prison was probably not the best idea…

I’m pretty sure the plan to move the prisoners to the continental United States cam from the penttagon, not congress.. but I can’t find any links to it either way.

Proof,

As always, you once again prove yourself to be a clueless fool.

When was the Republican Congress at its most Conservative? When was the Republican Party most united? When were we the shining light on the hill? When Clinton was POTUS. Why, because rather than fight amongst ourselves, we united to do battle with a common enemy – Clinton.

When has the Republican Congress lost its way? When did we start spending like Democrats? When did we start heading towards the middle and become wimpy on every issue? While Bush has been POTUS. Why? because he is a populist moderate and Congress went along to get along.

Proof, WHY do you think McCain has lost amongst Conservatives by double-digits in every primary thus far? Why do you think that Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin and Ann Coulter all oppose him so?

You Proof, are the kind of fool that would have argued in favor of wheeling the TROJAN HORSE into the city.

If I can’t have Churchill, I’ll vote for Hitler. Ann Coulter – never known as a brainiac – isn’t a blonde for nothing. But she snickers up her sleeve all the way to the bank, relishing the role of conservative shock-jock.

The democrats must be loving all you if-I-can’t-have-it-my-way-I’ll-take-my-football-and-go-home types. Grow up.

Come November, we win or the dems win.

I’m surprised I had to read so far down the comments to find someone saying what I’ve been thinking- Bill Mitchell. He is absolutely right (at least this time). A President Hillary could soon be boxed in by a Republican Congress in two years time.
I think the Republican party would collectively grow a pair again, at least for the while she was in office. With McCain in office, we’d get more aimless wandering in the ideological wilderness. Hey- it’s not the outcome I want either, guys, but with Fred out, what are we left with? And I have little use for Romney, either for that matter- National Review be hanged.