Say Anything Blog

Too funny. She talks as if a public education in America is/was somehow superior. Yet her child always attended “private” schools.

Hillary is just trying to create class war fare via the back door and appease her union base at the same time.

This queen bee is a typical socialist liberal.

“They don’t have to follow our civil rights laws, their employees don’t even have to be qualified, they aren’t required to coordinate with educators, there’s a grand total of zero evidence that they’re doing any good.”

So private educators are unamerican, unqualified, inexperienced, failures?  Have you ever heard anything so ridiculous?  Private enterprise mops the floor with every social endeavor, including public education. 

I find it more than annoying that parents are paying taxes in part to educate their children only to have to pay extra to get the tutoring needed for their children to succeed, and Sen. Clinton has the gall to condemn and criticize those who are filling the gap?

I don’t supppose Sen. Clinton knows that private educators aren’t as likely to be liberal, and that private education may mean the indoctrination process necessary for socialism is threatened?

There are private tutoring businesses popping up around town lately and I for one am glad to see it.  Since public education isn’t making the grade, Americans are exercising their liberty to educate their children elsewhere.  I see this trend leading toward privitizing education.... at least I hope so.

Hillary is offensive. That is rather nervey of her…

This is without a doubt one of the most ignorant posts I’ve ever seen on the entire internet, which is no small achievement.  If you had ever in your life taken even a small interest in how our education system works, you would know that our overburdened teachers are not the problem with public education.  How dare you insult them without having even the vaguest of idea of what you’re talking about!  Try to do some research next time.  Or better yet, actually visit a classroom.

(And no, funding isn’t the problem either.  So of course dumping more money into the system isn’t going to accomplish anything until the actual problems are addressed- such as the lack of administrative and parental support, and the apathy and undisciplined students who can do whatever they wish without consequences.)

the actual problems are addressed- such as the lack of administrative and parental support, and the apathy and undisciplined students who can do whatever they wish without consequences

And these problems don’t show that the system is broke?  Really how can anybody teach in that kind of an environment.

Oh, yes, you forgot that the schools have an agenda to indoctrinate the students to be marxists, greenies, homosexuals, muslims and anti-Christians.  Is that the teachers fault?  Only if they follow the agenda.  Don’t even suggest that they have no choice.

Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

Ummm… Was that joke?  Where is your evidence of such an… Improbably awkward (and not to mention completely impossible) conspiracy?  I’d be very happy to clarify just how you are wrong if you can provide me with a neutral source of information.

And oh, yeah, I agree 101% that the system is broken.  I was just trying to point out that the “cause” of this is NOT the teachers.  For one thing, I have to waste about 40-60% of the time I’m supposed to be “teaching” babysitting instead.  I have to tell the kids 7 or 8 times to quiet down before they bother to listen- and I’m a big male teacher.  (This problem is much worse for some of the female teachers.) The kids sit around and talk about how they’re all going to have big rap star careers someday, and don’t even look at the lessons I’m trying very hard to teach them.  Now, back when I was a kid, my ASS would have gotten smacked right off if I had done something like that in school.  Do you think the parents of these kids care?  No, in fact, they start yelling at US for daring to chastise their “perfect angels” if we try to call them up at home!

Why don’t we just expel these kids?  Because our administrators will fire US if we try- they have to look oh so pretty for the Board of Education, you know.  The conditions of our schools be damned.

These are the sad signs of our times.  50% of all new educators are getting out of the teaching profession within 5 years of entering it, and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why.  (Look those numbers up for yourself- I’m not making that up!) We put up with so much crap already, and then people STILL blame US for the problems with the the education system!?! 

Sorry if I was harsh earlier.  I hope you can see why I have become so frustrated.  At just the time when this nation needs some “student accountability” or some “parent accountability” our politicians are wasting everyone’s time and money on “teacher accountability.”

I wonder what this country has come to.  I could have made so much more money as a lawyer, and only had to put up with a tiny fraction of the BS.  Maybe it’s not too late for me to get out too.

M.  Jumping in to the thread.

It’s also frustrating for parents who do what they can to deal with the school system.

I don’t worry too much about new teachers leaving in the first 5 years.  Teaching wouldn’t be for me.  I can see some folks trying it out and deciding it’d be better for them and the kids to leave.

I would agree that the problem is more with the administration than the teachers.  (If fact it’s all because the teachers that are poor shouldn’t be there but for poor administration).

Kids that don’t want to learn shouldn’t ruin the education chances for kids that do.

I wonder what this country has come to.  I could have made so much more money as a lawyer

Funny you should say that because there are studies out that show per hour teachers make more than any white collar professions except for lawyers.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

But you SHOULD be worried about 50% of new teachers leaving.  It’s not just a matter of “this isn’t for me.” It’s a matter of “I wanted very much to be a teacher, but conditions are so bad that I can’t do my job.” Fewer teachers lead to larger classrooms, which lead to more discipline problems, which cause even more teacher to get the heck out of dodge.  Not to mention that the system will collapse under such a rate of exodus- schools will start closing, and all those kids will be home-schooled I guess.  (Which would be poetic justice against some of these god-awful worthless parents, honestly.)

As for teachers being second to lawyers in paychecks… Forgive me if I smirk at the idea.  I can barely afford gas to get to work and an occasional new sock.  I don’t see many lawyers with that problem.  (It is possible that the study you saw also included university professors, which would make sense- they make the big bucks, not us.)

But thank you for at least being aware that poor administrators are a much, much, much, more “real” problem than poor teachers at this point.

And as a final note, I’ll let you all in on a little secret:  I would still do this job for even LESS MONEY than I already make (although that it very difficult to imagine and I would probably have to pick up another night job to stay alive) if someone would just come pick up the 4 or 5 bad seeds that are causing 90% of the problems in my classrooms.  Then maybe the rest of us could actually learn something, and we’d actually be able to compete against our foreign competitors on the global market.  A lot of other teachers feel the same way.

Remember that next time you see someone who supposedly “represents” us pleading for more money- we’re NOT asking for more friggin’ money!  We did not take this job for the money, we did it because we want to teach and help children who want it.  All we want are reasonable working conditions and for the government to butt out of our already overburdened lives.