It’s too bad he started a filthy immoral war that we’ll have to live with for years, even after he sells the prop ranch and lolls on Jeb’s Florida patio.

Saddam started the war in ’91.  Bush-41 resumed the war after 12 years of inaction.  It’s immoral to not hold others to account for their actions. 

It’s immoral to tell your kids you will punish them for something they do then do nothing when they commit the act. 

You’re confusing "immoral" with something else.

Love it.  Just staying on the theme of the U.N. isn’t important.

So, tell me honestly.   When Bush was wailing and whining about 1442, where did you stand on it then? 

And Zsa:

Don’t they go around threatening violence against anyone who doesn’t support their ugly @$$e$? If you will pardon the expression?

You little racist, you.  The answer is ‘no’. 

Grow up, Zsa.

 

True being dimwitted is a requirement for public office.

So is Bush dimwitted too?

Since no one here cares about UN Resolutions 194 or 242 (although I’m sure most of you were some of the loudest screamers about Bush enforcing 1442)….this article by one of the great journalists, Robert Fisk, will go right over your hearts and heads.  Still, I feel good posting the truth:

http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles574.htm

Some highlights:

This is part of the dream world that editors and reporters have constructed for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

I seem to recall that the East Germans called the Berlin Wall – or "Berlin Fence" as I suppose we would have to call it if built by the Israelis – a "security barrier".

Forget the illegality of occupation, then, and the illegality of stealing someone else’s home and land, and the illegality of building a wall that thieves yet more property from the 22% of mandate Palestine that the Palestinians are supposed to negotiate for.

Let me be frank. If I were an Israeli I, too, would have built a wall to prevent the suicide executioners of Islamic Jihad and, earlier, of Hamas.

But I would have built it along the international frontier of Israel – not used the wall as a cheap method of stealing more land.

Indeed, under UN Security Council Resolution 242, which is meant to be the foundation of any peace, the acquisition of land through war is stated to be illegal. The wall itself is illegal. The International Court also ruled it to be illegal. And Israel ignored this ruling. So, of course, did the US.

. If the Israelis want Hamas to acknowledge the state of Israel, then Hamas should be expected to acknowledge the state of Israel that exists within its legal frontiers – not the illegal borders now being dreamt up by Olmert.

We will have to abandon the idea that Ariel Sharon – an unindicted war criminal after his involvement in the 1982 Sabra and Chatila massacres – was really going to give up the major Jewish colonies built illegally on Arab land or the illegal annexation of Jerusalem.

(You know, that’s the guy BatOne says has Western Values)

Certainly, Olmert is not going to do that.

He is going to create wider frontiers for Israel and steal – let’s call a spade a spade – more Arab land in doing so.

The US will go along with this next illegal land-grab. But will the European Union? Will the UN? Will Russia? Will Tony Blair?

Israelis deserve peace and security as much as Palestinians. But "new" and expanded "controversial" Israeli frontiers will not bring peace or security to either.

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And since Hotel2whatever  knew about the Stern and other gangs, why isn’t he condemning them?

Hmmm…….

Bat One…Now I get it! Thank you. I had forgotten much of that. IF we support the palastinian authority or whatever they are called we should all file suit! Don’t they go around threatening violence against anyone who doesn’t support their ugly @$$e$? If you will pardon the expression?

Bat One I agree the UN is nothing but a communistic cooperation and who invented communism? thats right the jews

America is or at leaste was a sovereign nation it answers to no one but God, and God is punishing us, we allow and became Sodom and Gomorra and the Tower Of Babble combined.

Mark my words years and years from today the truth will come out, just like Pearl Harbor did, This war was over lies.

No, not really. Ya see there are elections in a few months and those will be the poles that matter. But in the mean time, can do you see coat tails? I thought naught.

Or is your ‘morality’ biased?

Now THATS a philosophical question for the ages! 

There’s no one worth voting for on either side except perhaps Ron Paul, if he ever ran.

But one thing for sure:  I can’t imagine ANYONE I would rather NOT have as President than who holds that inappropriate title now.

I have known of the Irgun, Stern’s, and Hagana since well before you dedicated you life to Joooohatery.

You have a problem with Jews that you call them Jooooo’s?  And, I give you the same challenge:  Paste ONE thing I said as a slur against Jews.  You can’t, you phony.

 What is your point?

What is yours?

 And make it in 1 paragraph, no cut&paste. Just your point. Period. Full stop.

You little Arab hating racist you.

That it is, didn’t even take one paragraph.  That’s my point.

Over and out.

And, it follows, that you are pressing our government to make Israel obey all the UN resolutions they are currently in violation of.

 Which ones are they violating?  I’ll write some letters, if the resolutions are valid.

The list was from 2002, so if anyone can point out any they are no longer in violation of, please feel free.

 

I’ve got to go make money so I can continue funding the war brought on by Resolution 1442.  LOL  Wasn’t it 1442????  Oh well…whatever.

diane–  I read part of your link.  It appears to be a bit prejudiced:  "The great spinmeister, Bill O’Reilly,…"  Israel responded to an attack by two or three countries in 1967.  Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?  I am not talking about "The right of Israel to exist" defense.  That is another issue.  Israel was created sometime aroung 1947 in this last century.  Not including this historical Judah/Israel from the Bible. 

On topic, Hillary has put forth the same type of health insurance that Canada has now rejected.  We do not need socialism here in the USA.

Either you’re gonna get writer’s cramp or you’ll make up some reason they’re not ‘valid’.  Just like Bush made up reasons for the war.

Your assertions are tiresome.  Please do not presume to tell me what I will or will not do. 

The reasons for the war were not made up. Iraq was in violation of a cease fire agreement.  Saddam funded terrorism.  He, loosely, associated with Al Qaeda.  There was every reason to believe that Iraq had and was continuing to develop really nasty weapons.  A dictatorship which supports terrorists and produces really nasty weapons cannot be allowed to stand. 

I just got my morning E-mail from George Soros.

He wants me to ask the party members here, where is Osama.

 

Mission Accomplished y’all.

 It’s immoral to not hold others to account for their actions

As above.

Or is your ‘morality’ biased?

The list was from 2002, so if anyone can point out any they are no longer in violation of, please feel free.

Since they gave up a good portion of land to the "Palestinians" I would think a good number of these are fulfilled.  

As for the rest, I’ll look them over and write letters where I think they are warranted. 

 

Funny she didn’t mention her brief career as a cattle futures trader…

 

J. 

Democrats are just as Zionistic as Republicans, though, and Hillary is rabid.

Israel=Exception to the rule.

A country with nukes who talks about attacking their neighbors regularly seems like a fairly large threat to world peace to me.

 

Israel= Exception to the rule.

Yes, she is a space cadat.  Was there more to the article cuz I didn’t read it.

So, so typical.  When it was to enforce something so we could occupy Iraq, the resolutoins were important."

Diane,

No they aren’t!  If you would pay a little less attention to your own tantrums and a bit more to what others are saying, you might understand that there is nothing particularly significant about a UN resolution, regardless of whether it comes from the Security Council or the General Assembly.

The UN is to corrupt to have any credibility, to demonstrably inept to matter,  and too hopelessly politicized to have any effectiveness.  The organization does precious little that is worthwhile, accomplishes none oof the goals it was founded to implement, cannot manage to support itself financially, and is abyssmally unable to enforce any of its resolutions on anyone.

Its personnel are hopelessly corrupt, from rampant sexual abuse on 5 continents (including the sexual abuse of children), and the Secretary General has ahd his assistants shredding documents related to the OFF scandal for months.  

Like it or not, the UN is what the US says it is, ’cause there ain’t no one  else capable of eactually enforcing any of those resolutions you’re so obviously fond of pasting all over.

The fact is, if a person need a good example of why the left is morally bankrupt, of political correctness run stupidly rampant, of why liberals do not need to be trusted with the levers of political power, one need look no farther than the United Nations.  I mean who in their right mind is going to listen to Kofi Annan go on and on about the valiant efforts of UN Peacekeepers? 

63,000,000+ votes in November.  That’s the only poll that matters. 

Rob on May 2, 2006 at 10:01 AM

Well, polls do matter Tom in that the President is going to need a GOP-dominated Congress is he is to carry out his agenda from 2006 – 2008.  Republican approval is tied to the President’s approval, so polls are something he needs to keep in mind.

Rob on March 28, 2006 at 4:23 PM

Gee, I wasn’t aware that Israel was in the habit of threatening their neighbors with their nuclear arsenal.  Perhaps there are some specific citations you could post to support your contention?  Some quotes from Sharon, or Begin, or Golda Mier. maybe?

“63,000,000+ votes in November. That’s the only poll that matters.”

Well, not really. But it is a good indicator of the high ‘dumb factor’ in the country. And the fact that the morals of this country are at a rock bottom low.

So is Bush dimwitted too?

Yes, there are varying degrees of dimwittedness.  Some are less than others.

Many, Many degrees. 

Dick Cheney? Hotel9?, Negroponte? Dan Quail? RushlimbaughOriellyHannity?

…minority opionion. ????

What’s your boy doing now…32%

And this blog isn’t, Chief?????  "appears to be a bit prejudiced"

I have a Lebanese friend who is a professor in civil engineering here at a major East Coast university.  He remembers well Israel’s bombing of Beirut.  That is just one incident. 

As far as the Bible…you don’t want to go there, do you?  If so, the twelve tribes of Israel were promised a piece of land called The Good Land, or Canaan.  They never conquered all of it and eventually split into to lands, Judah and Israel.  Both were lost; one to the Assyrians and one to the Babylonians….THOUSANDS of years ago.

The Jews of Israel today are certainly not all descendents of the twelve tribes, although Palestinians who have lived there since the first Israelites came on their scene and mixed blood with them probably have as much/more blood than any other Israeli, Jew or nonJew.

 

The plan being that will give the Arab countries surrounding Isreal a chance to attack with the UN’s assistance.

The Whistler on May 2, 2006 at 3:32 PM Oh, kind of like the plan currently being carried out for America, biggest owner of nukes and arsenal in the world, to attack Iraq???  Of course, not iwth the UN’s assistance, but with the ‘ass-istance’ of countries who are pulling out one by one and leaving us hanging?That kind of plan?Israel = exception to the ruleArabs = We want their stuff so let’s use poor Israel (who is defiance of lots of resolutions) to do it by using breaking of UN resolutions by Iraq and saving Israel.BwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaYou can’t reason with unreasonable people wearing blinders.  You just can’t.

diane–  Yes, and they re-took Jerusalem.  Yes, I would be glad to.

Who is ‘they’?  The original twelve tribes?  Don’t think so.  Their descendents?  Prove it.    And, of course, if there are some mixed blood/race descendents of those 12 tribes, there are also mixed race/genetic descendents amongst Arabs as well, looking at all the mixing going on (read your Bible to find out).  But let’s just overlook all that, eh Chief???

Who was occupying Beirut, Lebanon and has been for many years?

The people who were asked to come and help protect them (Lebanon)from Israel.   Be careful, Chief, my friend was born and lived there the first 20 or so years of his life and can still ‘hear’ the bombs going off in his dreams.  He says you never forget.  Iraqis won’t either, especially not the tiny children, like your own children or grandchildren(?), Chief.

Nuclear capacity in Israel.  I wil educate myself on that one.

Good luck.  But start by reading about Dimona and the Israeli Jew who was imprisoned for YEARS for telling about what was really going on there.

 

Her Pastor, the right Reverend Fred Phelps did not explain it. He simply said,"God hates Zionists!’ Probably right after he said"God hates Fags!" but before he said"God hates Nigras!" Perhaps Dhimi diane will come and tell us in which order she was commanded to hate people? That ought to be funny.

I can’t imagine ANYONE I would rather NOT have as President than who holds that inappropriate title now.

And, thankfully, you hold the minority opionion.

More to the point, would someone kindly explain WTF Israel and the incredibly odious UN has to do with Hillary Clinton making up yet more shit about her background, while carefully omitting things she actually has done?

Or is this just Diane attempting to convert the threat into anti-Semitic Israel-bashing? Is that a hobby of hers?

 

Maybe "Diane" is actually Hillary, hoping to sidetrack criticism of her…

 

J.
 

"I wouldn’t sling resolutions with one hand and then dismiss them with another."

The fact of the UN resolution establishing the state of Israel is for your benefit, since you are the one so enamored of them as to quote such a tedious list of the damn things.  Personally, I regard the UN as incurably corrupt, inestimably incompetent, in short, a thoroughly failed organization with no more authority than it has competence.  Secretary General Kofi Annan should be in jail for the Rawanda massacre alone, never mind his pitiful record of corrupt leadership since assuming the top slot at Turtle Bay.  As for leadership itself, Annan couldn’t leader a pack of Cub Scouts out of a walk-in closet.

None of which changes the fact there is legally no "Palestine", no palestinian government, and not much likelihood of there being such any time soon. 

Hillary’s a Zionist? Hell, I heard that during her days in the White House whe was actually openly anti-Semitic — just ask Dick Morris. By that standard, Diane, you oughta like her.

 

Also, Diane, here’s an odd bit of legalism for you: all the anti-Israel resolutions you cited are General Assembly resolutions — and as such, have no authority. They are merely "advisory" opinions. Only those passed by the Security Council have any weight behind them — and Saddam flouted 14 of those, ALL based on his initial surrender in the ’91 war. In essence, you’re conflating murder with not following the Recommended Daily Allowance of niacin. Both are government regulations, but only one has the power of law. 

 

But if the most tenuous connection to Hillary Clinton is the criteria here, why not discuss health care costs? Wal-Mart’s corporate practices? The Balkans? All are about as relevant as Diane’s little obsession, but I guess those wouldn’t let her get her Jew-hating rocks off.

 

Feel free to call me a Zionist, Diane. It’s a term I’ve publicly embraced. (http://wizbangblog.com/2005/12/30/why-this-agnostic-wasp-is-a-zionist.php) But feel more free to just STFU.  Your "right" to speak is not to be confused with a DUTY to speak.

 

J. 

Chief RZ I would like to ask you a question based on your comment "Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?"

What do you think about the USS Liberty that was attacked by Israel on the very same day that Israel planed to conquer the Golan Heights? Are you going to defend Israel for this somehow?

 

Which numbskulls to ignore and which to bother resonding to.  After careful consideration, I chose lucky:

Dhummi Diane sounds like David Duke throwing out the word ‘zionist’ like that.

But then again, good chance she has no idea what the word even means.

Ken McCracken on May 2, 2006 at 6:07 PM Hey, McCrackpot, which definition would you like? 

Chief RZ I would like to ask you a question based on your comment "Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?"

What do you think about the USS Liberty that was attacked by Israel on the very same day that Israel planed to conquer the Golan Heights? Are you going to defend Israel for this somehow?

Someone will.  And not only that, you will be called a hater and an anti-semite (a name Jews as a religious group stole from semitic people).

The fact of the UN resolution establishing the state of Israel is for your benefit, since you are the one so enamored of them as to quote such a tedious list of the damn things.

LOL  Certainly not for MY benefit…maybe theirs.  I just quoted UN resolutions they were in violation of in 2002, most of which they are probably still in violation of, but nobody cares, do they?  Because?

  Personally, I regard the UN as incurably corrupt, inestimably incompetent, in short, a thoroughly failed organization with no more authority than it has competence. 

Unless it’s to enforce one of their resolutions against Arabs, righteeoh???

None of which changes the fact there is legally no "Palestine", no palestinian government, and not much likelihood of there being such any time soon. 

There’s a democratically elected government, much as you probably (and Israel certainly) HATE it.  Isn’t that what we are promoting in the Middle East….democracy and free elections?   LOLOLOLOL

 

e to the point, would someone kindly explain WTF Israel and the incredibly odious UN has to do with Hillary Clinton making up yet more shit about her background, while carefully omitting things she actually has done?

It has to do with the fact that Hillary is a Zionist.

Or is this just Diane attempting to convert the threat into anti-Semitic Israel-bashing? Is that a hobby of hers?

Truth is my hobby.  And what you consider bashing is just pointing out reality.  They are in violation of many, many UN resolutions, and I’ll just BET you were one of those condemning Iraq for doing that, weren’t you Mr. Tea?

Maybe "Diane" is actually Hillary, hoping to sidetrack criticism of her…

Never can tell. 

J.
 

Jay Tea on May 2, 2006 at 6:23 PM

 

And maybe someone would like to know why the UN resolutions about Israel’s nuclear facilities (that they are in violation of) are a General Assembly resolution while the ones the U.S., France and Britain are going for re: the same subject against Iran are going to be SC resolutions?

Only one answer:  Arab hate

Israel already took out a facility in another Middle East Country all by their lonesome.  Haven’t seen Iran doing the same to Israel. 

Israel does have nuclear capabilities; Iran does not. 

The difference:  Arab hate

Israel has bombed Beirut.  Penalty:  0

The difference:  Arab hate

Israel = the exception to the rule

Why?

Arab hate.

And this site is brimming with it:  Just ask ‘chimmi’ Diane, Wahhabi watercarrier.

Duplicity.  You are the racists.  And the haters.

Now excuse me while I go talk coffee with a Jewish acquaintance after making a few more stops here.  I only label her Jewish to show you how insipid you are.  I don’t call her Jewish Harriet and she doesn’t call me Protestant Diane.  We call eachother Harriet and Diane.

Got it, racists/haters?

By the way, I really didn’t expect you to give me answers to the questions I asked about who qualifies for being a Jew. Because that will take you into a tangled web you’ll weave from which there is no good extrication for you other than looking like a complete idiot. But then, you really have nothing to lose in that direction, so why not at least attempt it?

Word games.  There was a person here a week or two ago who attempted to say that our elected President and our government was facist.  This term also has been used for a little less than 100 years to refer to people who took over power mostly appealing to nationalism.

I agree, Jay, that Anit-semite refers to people who hate Jews.  This hate does appear to go back in history quite a while and involves religion.  Certain people attempt to denegrate some words in order to confuse people and deminish the contrast between good and evil.

Hillary’s a Zionist? Hell, I heard that during her days in the White House whe was actually openly anti-Semitic — just ask Dick Morris. By that standard, Diane, you oughta like her.

No, I love semitic people.  I have many semitic friends.  I bet you don’t, though.  That old anti-semitic diabtribe is so used and worn out.

 

Also, Diane, here’s an odd bit of legalism for you: all the anti-Israel resolutions you cited are General Assembly resolutions — and as such, have no authority. They are merely "advisory" opinions. Only those passed by the Security Council have any weight behind them — and Saddam flouted 14 of those, ALL based on his initial surrender in the ’91 war. In essence, you’re conflating murder with not following the Recommended Daily Allowance of niacin. Both are government regulations, but only one has the power of law. 

You should have left that one alone.

http://www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html

Israel’s occupation of Palestine is Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967

  

Calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the war that year and "the acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

 

Israel’s settlements in Palestine are Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 446, March 22, 1979

   

"Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East."

 

firmation of a Palestinian State

Security Council Resolution 1397, March 12, 2002

  

Affirms "a vision of a region where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders."

 

..So much for saying there’s no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians, eh folks?  Sorry, Golda.

 

But if the most tenuous connection to Hillary Clinton is the criteria here, why not discuss health care costs? Wal-Mart’s corporate practices? The Balkans? All are about as relevant as Diane’s little obsession, but I guess those wouldn’t let her get her Jew-hating rocks off.

Feel better now?  Anti-semitic doesn’t do ONE SINGLE THING to me, so you can take it and put it away in your little ‘guilt’ drawer.  I dont’ let Zionists try to label me for speaking truth and never will.

Feel free to call me a Zionist, Diane. It’s a term I’ve publicly embraced. (http://wizbangblog.com/2005/12/30/why-this-agnostic-wasp-is-a-zionist.php) But feel more free to just STFU.  Your "right" to speak is not to be confused with a DUTY to speak.

You’re a Zionist, and a run of the mill one at that.  I’m not going to go to your ‘blog’, egotist.  I don’t have a blog and most who do shouldn’t.  There’s still a duty to speak when people like you try to manhandle people into believing everything Israel does is justified, moral and legal.  Think again, twinkie.

J. 

Jay Tea on May 3, 2006 at 2:10 AM

Should I have expected any more from such a group? Answer: No. The hate toward Arabs and Muslims on this blog is so far over the top from anything I’ve ever seen, so I expected the ‘anti-semite’ slur to happen at some point. It always does when anyone questions Israeli policies and people are unable to defend them (which they are).  Then they get mean and pull out ‘anti-semite’, thinking it will intimidate some and it does…but not me, of course.

Your definition of anti-semite, meaning Jew Hater, is for those who call Jews various derogatory names, put them down as a race, make claims about various stereotypical habits and attitudes, etc.

Criticism of Israel does not.  Somewhere in your warped reality, learn that lesson before someone not as nice as me is confronted by your stupidity.

I see no one defended Israel’s defiance of UN resolutions, not even UNSC resolutions.

Therefore, I’m sure you won’t be upset if we get UNSC resolutions against Iran, and will tell me that they are unenforceable as well….not.

L

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None of you seems to even have a clue what the term "Jew" means, nor how it relates to status in Israel, what the difference is when you pull out Bible promises such as Chief did as to who the people to whome they were made were, what the conditions were (there were conditions that were broken), etc., etc.  So very, very typical.

Take your term Jew-hater and throw it in the circular file or stick it on yourselves because anyone who doesn’t even know what a Jew is or what the answers to those questions are could care less about the subject or about Judaism.

You phonies.

Dhummi Diane sounds like David Duke throwing out the word ‘zionist’ like that.

But then again, good chance she has no idea what the word even means.

ane,

You could have saved yourself the trouble of three separate, tediously  rambling posts, not to mention all that vituperative bigotry, if you had simply acknowledged that you had no facts to back up your assertions, no reason to back up your own bigotted name-calling, other than your own petty ignorance and frustration.

What assertions were those, Batty? 

Incidentally, calling people names when its the only weapon left to you is a mark of shallow ignorance and adolescent temperment… the sort of reckless behavior most kids outgrow by the time they hit puberty.  At least mine did.

Gee, you just eliminated yourself and most people here, since you started the give and take.  Wanna stop it?  I’m up for it.   I speak as spoken to.

P.S. Any answers to these, since no one else apparently has them:

 1) What is a Jew?

 

 

2) Are all Jews semitic?

 

 

3) Are all Jews entitled to live in Israel as first class, property owning citizens?

 

 

4) Why?

 

5) Would that include Madonna (who is making noises about wanting to have a house there), a recent convert to an ‘on the edge’ branch of Judaism?

 

 

And I’ll add another:

6) Why is Israel allowed to violate UNSC resolutions without being subjected sanctions or other enforcement?

put them down as a race

And yes, I meant put them down as a race, because some people think they are a race and put them down as such. 

the new Jewish state

At least you admit the state is religious and the people there are not genetic ‘heirs’ to a Bible promise.

That’s something.

Yes, we do know who the racists are just by reading through one day’s threads here and seeing the horrible, racist terms used for Arabs and/or Muslims.

Chief, bad definition.  There are Jews who are citizens of many nations, not just Israel.  Paul defines what a Jew is as one who is one inwardly.  He says all believers in Christ are the same…there is no more Jew or Gentile.  Since you brought Bible promises to ‘Jews’ for Israel into the discussion, you should know that you were wrong.  There were no covenants given to ‘Jews’ or Madonna would be part of a covenant.

The covenants were broken by the Israelites.  The promises had conditions which were also broken (to David’s sons sitting on his throne in a natural sense…all conditional and broken).

Catching up:  Jews are citizens of Israel.  They are also followers of their religion.  The God they follow is probably the one of Abraham, Moses and others.  Jesus included gentiles (pagans).  Paul assisted many in this understanding. 

They cannot be following the God Jesus talks about as his Father because he says NO ONE comes to the Father except through him and Jews reject Jesus.  So, either Jesus’ Father is not the God of Abraham, or the God of Abraham is not approachable by the Jews.  You have to make your own decision on that. 

Paul further explained that a true Jew is a person who worships God in the spirit.  Jesus called Jews who persecuted him children of the devil.

Chief, if you are going to use the Bible, you need to know what it says and be able to back it up. 

 

As to the definition of White people, they are just that White and people.

And, of course, my six questions weren’t even attempted by any but Chief, who knows that a Jew is someone who practices Judaism  but can’t prove from the Bible he mentioned that people who practice Judaism were promised a land called Israel.

So, there you have it.

By the way, going beyond all the wrong thinking of Chief on the subject, the Israel of today in no way resembles the original Promised Land/Canaan.  The original was divided by tribes and the borders were important.  Any women inheriting couldn’t marry outside the tribe unless they gave up their right of inheritance so that the land wouldn’t be mixed between tribes.  That’s just ONE discrepancy; there are many.

 

Typical Zionist pander.

I wouldn’t sling resolutions with one hand and then dismiss them with another.  But you would.

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3. Decides that a Committee of the Assembly, consisting of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,

What is that supposed to mean?

I told you so.

Is the United States bound by the UN ?…

Bat One…Does this mean the SC actually got something right? Amazing … That is good news!

P.S. Zsa, let me guess.  You and most here never heard of the Stern gangs, right?

http://www.answers.com/topic/lehi

http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm

Some Historical Facts
From A Concerned American
3-23-2

Following are just a few of the many massacres committed by Jewish-Zionist terrorists, notably by the Zionist Hagana, Irgun and Stern Gang groups. I don’t really expect anyone to read the articles (maybe a few honest ones) or to have any meaningful comment but at least it’s on record here so no one can claim they never knew.

Free…You are so correct. Everyone say bye bye to the UN! Israel should = the exception to the rule. They are sandwiched in between hostile muslim crazed suicide bombers. The mideast is so hostile. Imagine raising your children to grow up to be a suicide bombers???

“And you are so prejudiced against Jews it’s unreal. I believe that’s called ‘racism’. Let’s see how graciously you can wear the ‘r’ hat.

docdave on May 4, 2006 at 5:36 PM”

And you’re another idiot who can’t give one statement from me that is a slur on Jews.

If so, paste it. If not, be quiet.

Bat One…I meant Supreme Court. But, now that you mention it the Palestinians probably threatened Jordon with violence just like they threaten everyone else. The Pals are a like the mafia if you ask me??? BUT, no one ever asks me.

Chief, being such a law and order type guy, maybe you can explain why you don’t support and enforce U.N. Resolution 194.  It also makes it clear there is a PALESTINE:

The General Assembly,

Having considered further the situation in Palestine,

1. Expresses its deep appreciation of the progress achieved through the good offices of the late United Nations Mediator in promoting a peaceful adjustment of the future situation of Palestine, for which cause he sacrificed his life; and extends its thanks to the Acting Mediator and his staff for their continued efforts and devotion to duty in Palestine;

2. Establishes a Conciliation Commission consisting of three States Members of the United Nations which shall have the following functions:

(a) To assume, in so far as it considers necessary in existing circumstances, the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by resolution 186 (S-2) of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948;

(b) To carry out the specific functions and directives given to it by the present resolution and such additional functions and directives as may be given to it by the General Assembly or by the Security Council;

(c) To undertake, upon the request of the Security Council, any of the functions now assigned to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine or to the United Nations Truce Commission by resolutions of the Security Council; upon such request to the Conciliation Commission by the Security Council with respect to all the remaining functions of the United Nations Mediator on Palestine under Security Council resolutions, the office of the Mediator shall be terminated;

3. Decides that a Committee of the Assembly, consisting of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, shall present, before the end of the first part of the present session of the General Assembly, for the approval of the Assembly, a proposal concerning the names of the three States which will constitute the Conciliation Commission;

4. Requests the Commission to begin its functions at once, with a view to the establishment of contact between the parties themselves and the Commission at the earliest possible date;

5. Calls upon the Governments and authorities concerned to extend the scope of the negotiations provided for in the Security Council’s resolution of 16 November 1948 and to seek agreement by negotiations conducted either with the Conciliation Commission or directly with a view to the final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;

6. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to take steps to assist the Government and authorities concerned to achieve a final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;

7. Resolves that the Holy Places – including Nazareth – religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposal for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;

8. Resolves that, in view of its association with three world religions, the Jerusalem area, including the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most Eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most Southern, Bethlehem; the most Western, Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most Northern, Shu’fat, should be accorded special and separate treatment from the rest of Palestine and should be placed under effective United Nations control;

Requests the Security Council to take further steps to ensure the demilitarization of Jerusalem at the earliest possible date;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to present to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the Jerusalem area which will provide for the maximum local autonomy for distinctive groups consistent with the special international status of the Jerusalem area;

The Conciliation Commission is authorized to appoint a United Nations representative who shall cooperate with the local authorities with respect to the interim administration of the Jerusalem area;

9. Resolves that, pending agreement on more detailed arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned, the freest possible access to Jerusalem by road, rail or air should be accorded to all inhabitants of Palestine;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to report immediately to the Security Council, for appropriate action by that organ, any attempt by any party to impede such access;

10. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to seek arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned which will facilitate the economic development of the area, including arrangements for access to ports and airfields and the use of transportation and communication facilities;

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;

12. Authorizes the Conciliation Commission to appoint such subsidiary bodies and to employ such technical experts, acting under its authority, as it may find necessary for the effective discharge of its functions and responsibilities under the present resolution;

The Conciliation Commission will have its official headquarters at Jerusalem. The authorities responsible for maintaining order in Jerusalem will be responsible for taking all measures necessary to ensure the security of the Commission. The Secretary-General will provide a limited number of guards for the protection of the staff and premises of the Commission;

13. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to render progress reports periodically to the Secret ary-General for transmission to the Security Council and to the Members of the United Nations;

14. Calls upon all Governments and authorities concerned to cooperate with the Conciliation Commission and to take all possible steps to assist in the implementation of the present resolution;

15. Requests the Secretary-General to provide the necessary staff and facilities and to make appropriate arrangements to provide the necessary funds required in carrying out the terms of the present resolution.

 

AND, since Tea thinks the General Assembly resolutions are nothing more than suggestions or something, how about a Security Council resolution on the subject, 242:

The Security Council,

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles: Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force; Affirms further the necessity For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area; For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem; For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;

Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible.

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So, until you people know what in the heck you’re talking about, it’s just best to keep quiet and not show your ignorance.

And when you turn 15 we may care what you think. Probably not.