Say Anything Blog

There’s no one worth voting for on either side except perhaps Ron Paul, if he ever ran.

But one thing for sure:  I can’t imagine ANYONE I would rather NOT have as President than who holds that inappropriate title now.

I can’t imagine ANYONE I would rather NOT have as President than who holds that inappropriate title now.

And, thankfully, you hold the minority opionion.

Dick Cheney? Hotel9?, Negroponte? Dan Quail? RushlimbaughOriellyHannity?

Was she so immature that she couldn’t understand that all of the astronauts were military test pilots?

As far as I know, "Deke" Slayton was never a test pilot. 

True being dimwitted is a requirement for public office.

So is Bush dimwitted too?

...minority opionion. ????

What’s your boy doing now…32%

And, thankfully, you hold the minority opionion.

 

Just barely in 2004 and your numbers are diminishing. It’s too bad he started a filthy immoral war that we’ll have to live with for years, even after he sells the prop ranch and lolls on Jeb’s Florida patio.  The only thing we probably don’t have to worry about is a book from this guy…although it would make a comedic tragedy bestseller.

So is Bush dimwitted too?

Yes, there are varying degrees of dimwittedness.  Some are less than others.

What’s your boy doing now…32%

63,000,000+ votes in November.  That’s the only poll that matters. 

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The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

So is Bush dimwitted too?

Yes, there are varying degrees of dimwittedness.  Some are less than others.

Many, Many degrees. 

“63,000,000+ votes in November.  That’s the only poll that matters.”

Well, not really.  But it is a good indicator of the high ‘dumb factor’ in the country.  And the fact that the morals of this country are at a rock bottom low.

Epicurus,

 Deke Slayton was a test pilot at Edwards Air Force Base from January 1956 to April 1959.

 

No, not really. Ya see there are elections in a few months and those will be the poles that matter. But in the mean time, can do you see coat tails? I thought naught.

It’s too bad he started a filthy immoral war that we’ll have to live with for years, even after he sells the prop ranch and lolls on Jeb’s Florida patio.

Saddam started the war in ‘91.  Bush-41 resumed the war after 12 years of inaction.  It’s immoral to not hold others to account for their actions. 

It’s immoral to tell your kids you will punish them for something they do then do nothing when they commit the act. 

You’re confusing "immoral" with something else.

I just got my morning E-mail from George Soros.

He wants me to ask the party members here, where is Osama.

 

Mission Accomplished y’all.

It’s immoral to tell your kids you will punish them for something they do then do nothing when they commit the act. 

You’re confusing "immoral" with something else.

And, it follows, that you are pressing our government to make Israel obey all the UN resolutions they are currently in violation of.

 It’s immoral to not hold others to account for their actions

As above.

Or is your ‘morality’ biased?

And, it follows, that you are pressing our government to make Israel obey all the UN resolutions they are currently in violation of.

 Which ones are they violating?  I’ll write some letters, if the resolutions are valid.

Or is your ‘morality’ biased?

Now THATS a philosophical question for the ages! 

Seth—  Thanks for those words.  The Truth needs to be told continually, or else liberals will make up something that they will be confortable with.  It is called revisionism. 

On this subject.  At least she has told The Truth.  She has tried to garner women via the victim game.  I hope they will see through this ploy.  This is almost like a popularity contest.  President Bush earned his degrees honestly and has been in the business world.  For the Clintons, Whitewater and the connection to the failed S&L was revealed in My FBI fairly well and in detail.

He wants me to ask the party members here, where is Osama.

 Don’t questions end in a question mark?  So, is that a statement? 

When you write back to Soros, ask him "Why does Osama matter?"  and "Will the war end once Osama is caught?" 

Or is your ‘morality’ biased?

Now THATS a philosophical question for the ages! 

Yes, and it makes its’ point well, doesn’t it?

On Israel’s violations:

Resolution 252 (1968) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.

262 (1968) Israel
Calls upon Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.

267 (1969) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

271 (1969) Israel
Reiterates calls to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem and calls on Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers.

298 (1971) Israel
Reiterates demand that Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

446 (1979) Israel
Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers, to rescind previous measures that violate these relevant provisions, and "in particular, not to transport parts of its civilian population into the occupied Arab territories."

452 (1979) Israel
Calls on the government of Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the Arab territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

465 (1980) Israel
Reiterates previous resolutions on Israel’s settlements policy.

471 (1980) Israel
Demands prosecution of those involved in assassination attempts of West Bank leaders and compensation for damages; reiterates demands to abide by Fourth Geneva Convention.

484 (1980) Israel
Reiterates request that Israel abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

487 (1981) Israel
Calls upon Israel to place its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency.

497 (1981) Israel
Demands that Israel rescind its decision to impose its domestic laws in the occupied Syrian Golan region.

573 (1985) Israel
Calls on Israel to pay compensation for human and material losses from its attack against Tunisia and to refrain from all such attacks or threats of attacks against other nations.

592 (1986) Israel
Insists Israel abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions in East Jerusalem and other occupied territories.

605 (1987) Israel
"Calls once more upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Times of War, and to desist forthwith from its policies and practices that are in violations of the provisions of the Convention."

607 (1986) Israel
Reiterates calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its practice of deportations from occupied Arab territories.

608 (1988) Israel
Reiterates call for Israel to cease its deportations.

636 (1989) Israel
Reiterates call for Israel to cease its deportations.

641 (1989) Israel
Reiterates previous resolutions calling on Israel to desist in its deportations.

672 (1990) Israel
Reiterates calls for Israel to abide by provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention in the occupied Arab territories.

673 (1990) Israel
Insists that Israel come into compliance with resolution 672.

681 (1990) Israel
Reiterates call on Israel to abide by Fourth Geneva Convention in the occupied Arab territories.

726 (1992) Israel
Reiterates calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its practice of deportations from occupied Arab territories.

799 (1992) Israel
"Reaffirms applicability of Fourth Geneva Convention…to all Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and affirms that deportation of civilians constitutes a contravention of its obligations under the Convention."

904 (1994) Israel
Calls upon Israel, as the occupying power, "to take and implement measures, inter alia, confiscation of arms, with the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by settlers."

1073 (1996) Israel
"Calls on the safety and security of Palestinian civilians to be ensured."

1322 (2000) Israel
Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying power.

1402 (2002) Israel
Calls for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities.

1403 (2002) Israel
Demands that Israel go through with "the implementation of its resolution 1402, without delay."

1405 (2002) Israel
Calls for UN inspectors to investigate civilian deaths during an Israeli assault on the Jenin refugee camp.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=2417

The list was from 2002, so if anyone can point out any they are no longer in violation of, please feel free.

 

I’ve got to go make money so I can continue funding the war brought on by Resolution 1442.  LOL  Wasn’t it 1442????  Oh well…whatever.

Didn’t want anyone to miss this one.  This one they DEFINITELY HAVEN’T abided by:

487 (1981) Israel
Calls upon Israel to place its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency.

Israel…the exception to the rule

Chief,

Thanks for those words.  The Truth needs to be told continually, or else liberals will make up something that they will be confortable with.  It is called revisionism.

Rewriting history occurs daily.  In 100 years when our great (or great-great) grandchildren study the history of the US, they will refernece news papers like the NYTimes, Washington Post, etc.  What will they learn?  Will they review blog entries to gain a perspective?  Doubtful! 

Dennis Prager writes today of Totalitarianism and makes some fine points regarding the doctoring of history.  Diane and others have a skewed view of Iraq…  where did that come from?

I, for one, appreciate the time and effort that you and other truth-sayers spend on trying to communicate to the masses!  Thank you for that and thank you for risking your life in defense of our way of life!

***I’m playing the voice of Israel in this post: ***

On Israel’s violations:

Resolution 252 (1968) Israel

Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.

 Don’t tell me what to do.

262 (1968) Israel

Calls upon Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.

Make me! 

267 (1969) Israel

Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

I told you last year you can’t tell me what to do. 

271 (1969) Israel

Reiterates calls to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem and calls on Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers.

Your not my father! 

298 (1971) Israel

Reiterates demand that Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

I hate you. 

446 (1979) Israel

Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers, to rescind previous measures that violate these relevant provisions, and "in particular, not to transport parts of its civilian population into the occupied Arab territories."

It’s been 11 years, get over it.

452 (1979) Israel

Calls on the government of Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the Arab territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

It’s my party and I can do what I want to. 

465 (1980) Israel

Reiterates previous resolutions on Israel’s settlements policy.

Shut up. 

471 (1980) Israel

Demands prosecution of those involved in assassination attempts of West Bank leaders and compensation for damages; reiterates demands to abide by Fourth Geneva Convention.

Your so mean! 

484 (1980) Israel

Reiterates request that Israel abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

I said No! 

487 (1981) Israel

Calls upon Israel to place its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency.

Don’t even start. 

497 (1981) Israel

Demands that Israel rescind its decision to impose its domestic laws in the occupied Syrian Golan region.

No way dude. 

573 (1985) Israel

Calls on Israel to pay compensation for human and material losses from its attack against Tunisia and to refrain from all such attacks or threats of attacks against other nations.

I’m old enough to do what I want. 

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I think you get the idea.

And, it follows, that you are pressing our government to make Israel obey all the UN resolutions they are currently in violation of.

 Which ones are they violating?  I’ll write some letters, if the resolutions are valid.

Seth Yantiss on May 2, 2006 at 10:23 AM Either you’re gonna get writer’s cramp or you’ll make up some reason they’re not ‘valid’.  Just like Bush made up reasons for the war.

The list was from 2002, so if anyone can point out any they are no longer in violation of, please feel free.

Since they gave up a good portion of land to the "Palestinians" I would think a good number of these are fulfilled.  

As for the rest, I’ll look them over and write letters where I think they are warranted. 

 

The list was from 2002, so if anyone can point out any they are no longer in violation of, please feel free.

Since they gave up a good portion of land to the "Palestinians" I would think a good number of these are fulfilled.  

As for the rest, I’ll look them over and write letters where I think they are warranted. 

 

..and all that after being attacked by two—or three? countries in which they were dispatched quickly.  As I recall, the score was 75+ aircraft downed to zero by the Israelis.  Were these attacks (aggression) of war immoral?  The following resolutions is an example of what happens when people not involved, nor attacked and threatened attempt to pass judgement on others.

Either you’re gonna get writer’s cramp or you’ll make up some reason they’re not ‘valid’.  Just like Bush made up reasons for the war.

Your assertions are tiresome.  Please do not presume to tell me what I will or will not do. 

The reasons for the war were not made up. Iraq was in violation of a cease fire agreement.  Saddam funded terrorism.  He, loosely, associated with Al Qaeda.  There was every reason to believe that Iraq had and was continuing to develop really nasty weapons.  A dictatorship which supports terrorists and produces really nasty weapons cannot be allowed to stand. 

Funny she didn’t mention her brief career as a cattle futures trader…

 

J. 

Yes, she is a space cadat.  Was there more to the article cuz I didn’t read it.

Is it me or does she have scary beady eyes?

Funny she didn’t mention her brief career as a cattle futures trader…

Or her time as a Wal-Mart board member… 

LOL FR.  We may not always agree but I like your style.

As for the rest, I’ll look them over and write letters where I think they are warranted. 

Ho hum.  Sounds alot like Israel’s attitude.

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Either you’re gonna get writer’s cramp or you’ll make up some reason they’re not ‘valid’.  Just like Bush made up reasons for the war.

Your assertions are tiresome.  Please do not presume to tell me what I will or will not do. 

Okay then…I’m just so excited to hear which ones you decided were ‘warranted’.  NOT.

They might get another slapped on them soon about holding back Palestinian monies and trying to starve them into submission.  Wait…probably not.

 

 

Democrats are just as Zionistic as Republicans, though, and Hillary is rabid.

Israel=Exception to the rule.

A country with nukes who talks about attacking their neighbors regularly seems like a fairly large threat to world peace to me.

 

Israel= Exception to the rule.

Gee, I wasn’t aware that Israel was in the habit of threatening their neighbors with their nuclear arsenal.  Perhaps there are some specific citations you could post to support your contention?  Some quotes from Sharon, or Begin, or Golda Mier. maybe?

63,000,000+ votes in November.  That’s the only poll that matters. 

Rob on May 2, 2006 at 10:01 AM

Well, polls do matter Tom in that the President is going to need a GOP-dominated Congress is he is to carry out his agenda from 2006 - 2008.  Republican approval is tied to the President’s approval, so polls are something he needs to keep in mind.

Rob on March 28, 2006 at 4:23 PM

Gee, I wasn’t aware that Israel was in the habit of threatening their neighbors with their nuclear arsenal.  Perhaps there are some specific citations you could post to support your contention?  Some quotes from Sharon, or Begin, or Golda Mier. maybe?

Bat One on May 2, 2006 at 2:30 PM Wow…I wasn’t aware of any Arab states threatening Israel with nukes either, Batty, but we and Israel seem to think THAT isn’t necessary to go after them and try to prevent them from having the same ‘privileges’ Israel so beligerantly has, does it?So, your request for a quote is really unnecessary, but it would be impossible to get one from Golda Meier on at least their Palestinian neighbors (formerly generational residents of the land Israel occupies) anyway since, as I recall from reading some of her comments, she didn’t believe there was such a thing as  Palestinian.

Not a week passes without some official statement from Washington or Tel Aviv threatening air strikes or military intervention for a regime change against Iran. Not only do the United States and Israel make such threats openly and frequently; unlike Iran, both are quite capable of carrying out these threats. Unofficially, Pentagon and the CIA, as well as Israeli intelligence, have been preparing the grounds for such attacks by carrying out covert surveillance operations inside Iran.

 

Just open any newspaper or listen to any news broadcasts; what is more likely to happen as you read these lines: Iran attacking Israel, or the United States and/or Israel attacking Iran? This makes one wonder who is the worse offender of international norms and more worthy of universal condemnations.

http://www.intellectualdiscourse.com/page3.html

Well, maybe not every week, but now and then.  LOL

Of course, there’s not enough honesty here to admit that what was written above makes sense.  I wouldn’t expect that.  Just like to put up reality checks here.

diane—  I read part of your link.  It appears to be a bit prejudiced:  "The great spinmeister, Bill O’Reilly,..."  Israel responded to an attack by two or three countries in 1967.  Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?  I am not talking about "The right of Israel to exist" defense.  That is another issue.  Israel was created sometime aroung 1947 in this last century.  Not including this historical Judah/Israel from the Bible. 

On topic, Hillary has put forth the same type of health insurance that Canada has now rejected.  We do not need socialism here in the USA.

And this blog isn’t, Chief?????  "appears to be a bit prejudiced"

I have a Lebanese friend who is a professor in civil engineering here at a major East Coast university.  He remembers well Israel’s bombing of Beirut.  That is just one incident. 

As far as the Bible…you don’t want to go there, do you?  If so, the twelve tribes of Israel were promised a piece of land called The Good Land, or Canaan.  They never conquered all of it and eventually split into to lands, Judah and Israel.  Both were lost; one to the Assyrians and one to the Babylonians….THOUSANDS of years ago.

The Jews of Israel today are certainly not all descendents of the twelve tribes, although Palestinians who have lived there since the first Israelites came on their scene and mixed blood with them probably have as much/more blood than any other Israeli, Jew or nonJew.

 

Chief, do you believe Israel should be able to violate this U.N. Resolution??

487 (1981) Israel
Calls upon Israel to place its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency.

The plan being that will give the Arab countries surrounding Isreal a chance to attack with the UN’s assistance.

diane—  Yes, and they re-took Jerusalem.  Yes, I would be glad to.

I do agree that this present situation began in 1947.  If that is the issue, let’s discuss that issue, but not a nation’s right to defend itself.

Bosnia (re) created itself in the 1990s and almost the next day asked the UN to help defend itself.  We eventually had to bail the UN out.

Who was occupying Beirut, Lebanon and has been for many years?

Nuclear capacity in Israel.  I wil educate myself on that one.

The plan being that will give the Arab countries surrounding Isreal a chance to attack with the UN’s assistance.

The Whistler on May 2, 2006 at 3:32 PM Oh, kind of like the plan currently being carried out for America, biggest owner of nukes and arsenal in the world, to attack Iraq???  Of course, not iwth the UN’s assistance, but with the ‘ass-istance’ of countries who are pulling out one by one and leaving us hanging?That kind of plan?Israel = exception to the ruleArabs = We want their stuff so let’s use poor Israel (who is defiance of lots of resolutions) to do it by using breaking of UN resolutions by Iraq and saving Israel.BwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaYou can’t reason with unreasonable people wearing blinders.  You just can’t.

diane—  Yes, and they re-took Jerusalem.  Yes, I would be glad to.

Who is ‘they’?  The original twelve tribes?  Don’t think so.  Their descendents?  Prove it.    And, of course, if there are some mixed blood/race descendents of those 12 tribes, there are also mixed race/genetic descendents amongst Arabs as well, looking at all the mixing going on (read your Bible to find out).  But let’s just overlook all that, eh Chief???

Who was occupying Beirut, Lebanon and has been for many years?

The people who were asked to come and help protect them (Lebanon)from Israel.   Be careful, Chief, my friend was born and lived there the first 20 or so years of his life and can still ‘hear’ the bombs going off in his dreams.  He says you never forget.  Iraqis won’t either, especially not the tiny children, like your own children or grandchildren(?), Chief.

Nuclear capacity in Israel.  I wil educate myself on that one.

Good luck.  But start by reading about Dimona and the Israeli Jew who was imprisoned for YEARS for telling about what was really going on there.

 

And Chief, I would like to, before I have to take off until later, thank you sincerely for writing to me respectfully.  It is a refreshing change and one I will try to respect, even though I am so passionate about the issues I comment on.

You are a man who deserves to be respected for your respect toward others.  And I salute you for that.

Israel if left alone would not invade it’s neighbors.  On the other hand the Arabs have attacked Israel many times.

 

 

One more thing for now, Chief.  ‘They’ retook it again.  Not to mention the fact that Palestinians may have more 12 tribe mixed blood than most Jews living in Israel today, let’s consider something else so we can qualify what we are speaking about.

Israelites traveled throughout the surrounding areas making converts.  A group of these Jewish converts from many, many nations was in Jerusalem at Pentocost in the days of the eary Christians.  They were not Israelites.  From these converts, more converts were made, throughout the thousands of years following.

So again, Chief, who are ‘they’????

Whereas, it is simple to look at the Arabs and know they are in their ancestral homelands by noticing that, aside from facial features and heights, they look very similar, excepting maybe some Syrians and Lebanese mostly, who have mixed with Europeans more than some of the other Arabs.  But go to Israel and see how many obviously Northern European pureblood White folks you see, stating that they have a ‘right’ to that land, pushing out the general residents using the Bible as an excuse, that they were ‘promised’ it by God.

And then, Chief, if you’re honest, can you understand how Arabs might resent that? 

At least, possibly, you may be honest enough to understand.  And please, not the story of how the Arabs should have absorbed the Palestinians or how they should have taken some ‘deal’ and didn’t.  Why should they have taken a deal to have strangers take over a chunk of their territory anymore than you or any other U.S. citizen here would be open to the idea.  Heck…..look how worked up some of the people here are just about illegal immigration, not even having the land taken and given to them by someone else.

Honesty….please..someone….honesty.

Israel if left alone would not invade it’s neighbors. On the other hand the Arabs have attacked Israel many times.

 The Whistler on May 2, 2006 at 3:51 PM

 

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Absolute and total nontruthful Zionist-speak.

Nice Riposte

Back it up.

etsopiR eciN

Okay, so don’t have specific quote to cite, a specific speech or public statement by an Israeli leader to point to in support of your contention.  Nothing specfic to back up your assertion of nuclear threats by Israel.

That’s okay.  It was probably a trick question anyway.

Since you don’t have anything substantive to offer on that subject, how about we discuss Palestine instead?  

Israel, which you so despise, was created by Resolution 181 of the United Nations,  the inept, incompetent, and corrupt progeny of the failed League of Nations, which gave Britain the "mandate" over Palestine and trans-Jordan.  When Israel was created by the UN, 30 years after it was promised (see Balfour Declaration), R181 also provided for a Palestinian Arab state.  The Arab League, however, rejected the UN Resolution (selective acceptance of the UN seems to have quite a lengthy and braod-based history), and chose to go to war with the new Jewish state, while the Hashemite king of Jordan grabbed the west bank and other "palestinian" territories" and threw the "palestinians" out.

Technically, and legally, there is no Palestinian state, no Palestinian government, and little hope that there will be any time soon.  The palestinian arabs have instead chosen war, terrorism and bloodshed every time they have been given a choice, and the fact of the matter is that the arab citizens of Israel are far, far better off than their brethren in Gaza or the west bank territories under either Fatah or Hezbollah. 

 

Typical Zionist pander.

I wouldn’t sling resolutions with one hand and then dismiss them with another.  But you would.

etsopiR eciN

Translated:  I cannot back up my statement because I am just throwing out Zionist garble.

the new Jewish state

At least you admit the state is religious and the people there are not genetic ‘heirs’ to a Bible promise.

That’s something.

Dhummi Diane sounds like David Duke throwing out the word ‘zionist’ like that.

But then again, good chance she has no idea what the word even means.

More to the point, would someone kindly explain WTF Israel and the incredibly odious UN has to do with Hillary Clinton making up yet more shit about her background, while carefully omitting things she actually has done?

Or is this just Diane attempting to convert the threat into anti-Semitic Israel-bashing? Is that a hobby of hers?

 

Maybe "Diane" is actually Hillary, hoping to sidetrack criticism of her…

 

J.
 

Her Pastor, the right Reverend Fred Phelps did not explain it. He simply said,"God hates Zionists!’ Probably right after he said"God hates Fags!" but before he said"God hates Nigras!" Perhaps Dhimi diane will come and tell us in which order she was commanded to hate people? That ought to be funny.

Chief RZ I would like to ask you a question based on your comment "Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?"

What do you think about the USS Liberty that was attacked by Israel on the very same day that Israel planed to conquer the Golan Heights? Are you going to defend Israel for this somehow?

 

"I wouldn’t sling resolutions with one hand and then dismiss them with another."

The fact of the UN resolution establishing the state of Israel is for your benefit, since you are the one so enamored of them as to quote such a tedious list of the damn things.  Personally, I regard the UN as incurably corrupt, inestimably incompetent, in short, a thoroughly failed organization with no more authority than it has competence.  Secretary General Kofi Annan should be in jail for the Rawanda massacre alone, never mind his pitiful record of corrupt leadership since assuming the top slot at Turtle Bay.  As for leadership itself, Annan couldn’t leader a pack of Cub Scouts out of a walk-in closet.

None of which changes the fact there is legally no "Palestine", no palestinian government, and not much likelihood of there being such any time soon. 

If Hillary is elected, she’ll push for Bill to be the next Secretary General.  Bad Bad BAD addition to the rampant corruption in that body.

Which numbskulls to ignore and which to bother resonding to.  After careful consideration, I chose lucky:

Dhummi Diane sounds like David Duke throwing out the word ‘zionist’ like that.

But then again, good chance she has no idea what the word even means.

Ken McCracken on May 2, 2006 at 6:07 PM Hey, McCrackpot, which definition would you like?

Chief RZ I would like to ask you a question based on your comment "Do you have an example of Israel attacking or invading another country, unprovoked?"

What do you think about the USS Liberty that was attacked by Israel on the very same day that Israel planed to conquer the Golan Heights? Are you going to defend Israel for this somehow?

Someone will.  And not only that, you will be called a hater and an anti-semite (a name Jews as a religious group stole from semitic people).

The fact of the UN resolution establishing the state of Israel is for your benefit, since you are the one so enamored of them as to quote such a tedious list of the damn things.

LOL  Certainly not for MY benefit…maybe theirs.  I just quoted UN resolutions they were in violation of in 2002, most of which they are probably still in violation of, but nobody cares, do they?  Because?

  Personally, I regard the UN as incurably corrupt, inestimably incompetent, in short, a thoroughly failed organization with no more authority than it has competence. 

Unless it’s to enforce one of their resolutions against Arabs, righteeoh???

None of which changes the fact there is legally no "Palestine", no palestinian government, and not much likelihood of there being such any time soon. 

There’s a democratically elected government, much as you probably (and Israel certainly) HATE it.  Isn’t that what we are promoting in the Middle East….democracy and free elections?   LOLOLOLOL

 

e to the point, would someone kindly explain WTF Israel and the incredibly odious UN has to do with Hillary Clinton making up yet more shit about her background, while carefully omitting things she actually has done?

It has to do with the fact that Hillary is a Zionist.

Or is this just Diane attempting to convert the threat into anti-Semitic Israel-bashing? Is that a hobby of hers?

Truth is my hobby.  And what you consider bashing is just pointing out reality.  They are in violation of many, many UN resolutions, and I’ll just BET you were one of those condemning Iraq for doing that, weren’t you Mr. Tea?

Maybe "Diane" is actually Hillary, hoping to sidetrack criticism of her…

Never can tell. 

J.
 

Jay Tea on May 2, 2006 at 6:23 PM

 

Hillary’s a Zionist? Hell, I heard that during her days in the White House whe was actually openly anti-Semitic—just ask Dick Morris. By that standard, Diane, you oughta like her.

 

Also, Diane, here’s an odd bit of legalism for you: all the anti-Israel resolutions you cited are General Assembly resolutions—and as such, have no authority. They are merely "advisory" opinions. Only those passed by the Security Council have any weight behind them—and Saddam flouted 14 of those, ALL based on his initial surrender in the ‘91 war. In essence, you’re conflating murder with not following the Recommended Daily Allowance of niacin. Both are government regulations, but only one has the power of law. 

 

But if the most tenuous connection to Hillary Clinton is the criteria here, why not discuss health care costs? Wal-Mart’s corporate practices? The Balkans? All are about as relevant as Diane’s little obsession, but I guess those wouldn’t let her get her Jew-hating rocks off.

 

Feel free to call me a Zionist, Diane. It’s a term I’ve publicly embraced. (http://wizbangblog.com/2005/12/30/why-this-agnostic-wasp-is-a-zionist.php) But feel more free to just STFU.  Your "right" to speak is not to be confused with a DUTY to speak.

 

J. 

Hillary’s a Zionist? Hell, I heard that during her days in the White House whe was actually openly anti-Semitic—just ask Dick Morris. By that standard, Diane, you oughta like her.

No, I love semitic people.  I have many semitic friends.  I bet you don’t, though.  That old anti-semitic diabtribe is so used and worn out.

 

Also, Diane, here’s an odd bit of legalism for you: all the anti-Israel resolutions you cited are General Assembly resolutions—and as such, have no authority. They are merely "advisory" opinions. Only those passed by the Security Council have any weight behind them—and Saddam flouted 14 of those, ALL based on his initial surrender in the ‘91 war. In essence, you’re conflating murder with not following the Recommended Daily Allowance of niacin. Both are government regulations, but only one has the power of law. 

You should have left that one alone.

http://www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html

Israel’s occupation of Palestine is Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967

  

Calls for the withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the war that year and "the acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

 

Israel’s settlements in Palestine are Illegal.

Security Council Resolution 446, March 22, 1979

   

"Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East."

 

firmation of a Palestinian State

Security Council Resolution 1397, March 12, 2002

  

Affirms "a vision of a region where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders."

 

..So much for saying there’s no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians, eh folks?  Sorry, Golda.

 

But if the most tenuous connection to Hillary Clinton is the criteria here, why not discuss health care costs? Wal-Mart’s corporate practices? The Balkans? All are about as relevant as Diane’s little obsession, but I guess those wouldn’t let her get her Jew-hating rocks off.

Feel better now?  Anti-semitic doesn’t do ONE SINGLE THING to me, so you can take it and put it away in your little ‘guilt’ drawer.  I dont’ let Zionists try to label me for speaking truth and never will.

Feel free to call me a Zionist, Diane. It’s a term I’ve publicly embraced. (http://wizbangblog.com/2005/12/30/why-this-agnostic-wasp-is-a-zionist.php) But feel more free to just STFU.  Your "right" to speak is not to be confused with a DUTY to speak.

You’re a Zionist, and a run of the mill one at that.  I’m not going to go to your ‘blog’, egotist.  I don’t have a blog and most who do shouldn’t.  There’s still a duty to speak when people like you try to manhandle people into believing everything Israel does is justified, moral and legal.  Think again, twinkie.

J. 

Jay Tea on May 3, 2006 at 2:10 AM

But, since you want to play Super Zionist, champion of Israel, I do have a couple of questions for you:

 1) What is a Jew?

2) Are all Jews semitic?

3) Are all Jews entitled to live in Israel as first class, property owning citizens?

4) Why?

5) Would that include Madonna (who is making noises about wanting to have a house there), a recent convert to an ‘on the edge’ branch of Judaism?

 

And, Mr. Tea, I suppose you also call the Orthodox Jews who are against the occupation ‘anti-semitic’ as well.   LOL 

Gee, Diane, you answered every single point I raised BUT the last one: what the HELL does this have to do with Hillary Clinton? Her support or non-support of Israel has absolutely NO relevance to "what she wanted to be when she grew up." I don’t think she ever said she wanted to be a Jew or move to Israel (or, for that matter, sign up with the neo-Nazis and finish off the job Hitler started.) You seem the type who looks for any forum she can find to spout off about her obsession, and since you’ve put so much time and effort into your little crusade (I’m sorry—"jihad" seems a more appropriate term here), you can find SOME connection—however tenuous—that will let you rationalize your spewing.

 

Hey, Diane, how about a challenge: I’ll name three topics, you find a way to blame each of them on Israel:

 

1) Illegal immigration

 

2) The designated-hitter rule

 

3)  Daylight Savings Time.

 

Come on, I know you can do it, my little <strike>anti-semite </strike>Jew-hater. In those gigabytes of files I just know you have about how horrible the Jews are, you HAVE to have something in there that shows how they are responsible for all three of them!  

Gee, Diane, you answered every single point I raised BUT the last one: what the HELL does this have to do with Hillary Clinton? Her support or non-support of Israel has absolutely NO relevance to "what she wanted to be when she grew up." I don’t think she ever said she wanted to be a Jew or move to Israel (or, for that matter, sign up with the neo-Nazis and finish off the job Hitler started.) You seem the type who looks for any forum she can find to spout off about her obsession, and since you’ve put so much time and effort into your little crusade (I’m sorry—"jihad" seems a more appropriate term here), you can find SOME connection—however tenuous—that will let you rationalize your spewing.

 

You even pull the old "I’m not an anti-Semite, ‘cuz Arabs are Semites too" crap. "Anti-Semitic" has been the widely-accepted term for Jew-hating for about a century. But if you prefer the simpler "Jew-hating," I can go for that.

 

Hey, Diane, how about a challenge: I’ll name three topics, you find a way to blame each of them on Israel:

 

1) Illegal immigration

 

2) The designated-hitter rule

 

3)  Daylight Savings Time.

 

Come on, I know you can do it, my little <strike>anti-semite </strike>Jew-hater. In those gigabytes of files I just know you have about how horrible the Jews are, you HAVE to have something in there that shows how they are responsible for all three of them!  

 

J. 

"McCrackpot?"

Heh, that is funny, I endorse it.

You have my permission to call me that.

So, was there an actual POINT to the anti-Hillary blather here or what ?

I can’t see one, other than to be a jerk.  Mission accomplished, I guess.

And as much as I think this anti-Hillary nonsense is just that, and counter-productive, Diane, could you please refrain from the moronic moonbat Zionist conspiracy crap ?  Yeah, that’ll win you some elections for SURE.

Diane offers this,

"There’s a democratically elected government, much as you probably (and Israel certainly) HATE it."

And then this pitifully snarky little attempt at rejoinder,

"..So much for saying there’s no such thing as Palestine or Palestinians, eh folks?  Sorry, Golda"

But as has been pointed out already, the UN has no authority in the matter… certainly none that it can capably enforce.  After all, it hasn’t managed to enforce its creation of Israel on the various arab states that have yet to recognize Israel.  The government of Sudan has no particular interest in the UN’s repeated resolutions on Darfur, anymore than Iran is interested in the UN’s upcoming resolution on its uranium enrichment program, or Saddam’s interest in 10 years worth of meaningless resolutions leading up to the US-led invasion that overthrew is government.

So while you may bray and yammer about international law and all that nonsense, the fact of the matter is that the UN and its resolutions are largely irrelevant.

There is, however, a legal authority that is way more relevant than the pointlessly silly UN.  And that is the US Supreme Court.  And that body has ruled on the question of "Palestinian" sovereignty and the legal viability of the Palestinian Authority government.  And according to the United States Supreme Court, that "democratically elected goovernment" you refer to is not a legally recognizable, sovereign government.

Here endeth the lesson. 

Word games.  There was a person here a week or two ago who attempted to say that our elected President and our government was facist.  This term also has been used for a little less than 100 years to refer to people who took over power mostly appealing to nationalism.

I agree, Jay, that Anit-semite refers to people who hate Jews.  This hate does appear to go back in history quite a while and involves religion.  Certain people attempt to denegrate some words in order to confuse people and deminish the contrast between good and evil.

Accusing someone of hating Jews over criticism of Israel is one of the most stupid and schmucky things people do.  That’s why it doesn’t bother me in the least.  Call it anything you want.  Ignorant people defend Israel no matter what they do, including disregarding UNSC resolutions.  So,  I just write those people off as Arab haters (anti-semitic).  Of course, in their small minds, that’s justified because in their little, simplistic world Israel=good, Arab states= bad.

"McCrackpot?"

Heh, that is funny, I endorse it.

You have my permission to call me that.

Ken McCrackpot on May 3, 2006 at 6:33 AM Thanks, Ken, I’ve been using it for awhile now. So while you may bray and yammer about international law and all that nonsense, the fact of the matter is that the UN and its resolutions are largely irrelevant.So, I guess when Bush brayed and yammer about 1442 and Iraq, he was spitting in the wind as far as YOU were concerned, right Mr. Anti-semite, Arab hater?

By the way, I really didn’t expect you to give me answers to the questions I asked about who qualifies for being a Jew. Because that will take you into a tangled web you’ll weave from which there is no good extrication for you other than looking like a complete idiot. But then, you really have nothing to lose in that direction, so why not at least attempt it?

Sherard, I’m not concerned about making Hillary look bad. That should have been obvious to anyone who read the thread the entire way through. I’m voting Independent right down the line. Attempts at doing anything else have resulted in the mess we are currently in anyway so why not give this a shot?

The best thing for me is to see Bush’s warmongering little behind waddling out of the Oval Office for the last time.  I just hope (and don’t believe for a minute it will) Hillary’s more ample one doesn’t replace it.

"So, I guess when Bush brayed and yammer about 1442 and Iraq, he was spitting in the wind as far as YOU were concerned, right Mr. Anti-semite, Arab hater?"

Diane, you are such a disappointment!  Faced with facts, you can offer nothing better in rebuttal than petty little insults?  I had hoped you were capable of something more substantive.  My mistake!

The Supreme Court ruling on Palestinian sovereignty is fact.  The United Nations corruption, incompetence, and irrelevance is fact.  And all of your manic, self-serving foolishness to the contrary doesn’t amount to a hill of sand if you have no pertinent fact to back up what you say.

 

Wow, bravo1, I actually just went through this whole thread and can’t find the point where you became the Joooo hating racsist?! Better look out, Dhimi diane and saeed are going to be pissed you took their ricebowl. As for Hillary, the unending list of professions she has claimed to have pursued is without end. She has smarmy,folksy,urbane, or pithy anecdotes handy to plug in to her public apperance schtickt as needed. She is the consumate political creature, all facade and no substence.

Should I have expected any more from such a group? Answer: No. The hate toward Arabs and Muslims on this blog is so far over the top from anything I’ve ever seen, so I expected the ‘anti-semite’ slur to happen at some point. It always does when anyone questions Israeli policies and people are unable to defend them (which they are).  Then they get mean and pull out ‘anti-semite’, thinking it will intimidate some and it does…but not me, of course.

Your definition of anti-semite, meaning Jew Hater, is for those who call Jews various derogatory names, put them down as a race, make claims about various stereotypical habits and attitudes, etc.

Criticism of Israel does not.  Somewhere in your warped reality, learn that lesson before someone not as nice as me is confronted by your stupidity.

I see no one defended Israel’s defiance of UN resolutions, not even UNSC resolutions.

Therefore, I’m sure you won’t be upset if we get UNSC resolutions against Iran, and will tell me that they are unenforceable as well….not.

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None of you seems to even have a clue what the term "Jew" means, nor how it relates to status in Israel, what the difference is when you pull out Bible promises such as Chief did as to who the people to whome they were made were, what the conditions were (there were conditions that were broken), etc., etc.  So very, very typical.

Take your term Jew-hater and throw it in the circular file or stick it on yourselves because anyone who doesn’t even know what a Jew is or what the answers to those questions are could care less about the subject or about Judaism.

You phonies.

put them down as a race

And yes, I meant put them down as a race, because some people think they are a race and put them down as such. 

And maybe someone would like to know why the UN resolutions about Israel’s nuclear facilities (that they are in violation of) are a General Assembly resolution while the ones the U.S., France and Britain are going for re: the same subject against Iran are going to be SC resolutions?

Only one answer:  Arab hate

Israel already took out a facility in another Middle East Country all by their lonesome.  Haven’t seen Iran doing the same to Israel. 

Israel does have nuclear capabilities; Iran does not. 

The difference:  Arab hate

Israel has bombed Beirut.  Penalty:  0

The difference:  Arab hate

Israel = the exception to the rule

Why?

Arab hate.

And this site is brimming with it:  Just ask ‘chimmi’ Diane, Wahhabi watercarrier.

Duplicity.  You are the racists.  And the haters.

Now excuse me while I go talk coffee with a Jewish acquaintance after making a few more stops here.  I only label her Jewish to show you how insipid you are.  I don’t call her Jewish Harriet and she doesn’t call me Protestant Diane.  We call eachother Harriet and Diane.

Got it, racists/haters?

Diane,

You could have saved yourself the trouble of three separate, tediously  rambling posts, not to mention all that vituperative bigotry, if you had simply acknowledged that you had no facts to back up your assertions, no reason to back up your own bigotted name-calling, other than your own petty ignorance and frustration.

Incidentally, calling people names when its the only weapon left to you is a mark of shallow ignorance and adolescent temperment… the sort of reckless behavior most kids outgrow by the time they hit puberty.  At least mine did. 

ane,

You could have saved yourself the trouble of three separate, tediously  rambling posts, not to mention all that vituperative bigotry, if you had simply acknowledged that you had no facts to back up your assertions, no reason to back up your own bigotted name-calling, other than your own petty ignorance and frustration.

What assertions were those, Batty? 

Incidentally, calling people names when its the only weapon left to you is a mark of shallow ignorance and adolescent temperment… the sort of reckless behavior most kids outgrow by the time they hit puberty.  At least mine did.

Gee, you just eliminated yourself and most people here, since you started the give and take.  Wanna stop it?  I’m up for it.   I speak as spoken to.

P.S. Any answers to these, since no one else apparently has them:

 1) What is a Jew?

 

 

2) Are all Jews semitic?

 

 

3) Are all Jews entitled to live in Israel as first class, property owning citizens?

 

 

4) Why?

 

5) Would that include Madonna (who is making noises about wanting to have a house there), a recent convert to an ‘on the edge’ branch of Judaism?

 

 

And I’ll add another:

6) Why is Israel allowed to violate UNSC resolutions without being subjected sanctions or other enforcement?

I told you so.

Catching up:  Jews are citizens of Israel.  They are also followers of their religion.  The God they follow is probably the one of Abraham, Moses and others.  Jesus included gentiles (pagans).  Paul assisted many in this understanding. 

Now:  Did you see the survey done that was blocked from even being mentioned in the news by "palestinians"?  It showed that just about 15% wanted to "return to some undefined—homeland".

There have been accidental firings on ships, airplanes and people by many nations.  An accidental attack does not constitute an invasion.

diane-  I am looking for your justification or definition of "white people" and if someone can be racist if they are a "minority".

A racists is someone who hates people because of their race or people that interject race into situations where it’s not appropriate.

I think we know who the racists are. 

 

Whistler—  I would go with that definition.  There are certain people in the USA today who unashamadly preach the killing of white people.  Not many objections in the liberal PC media.  The MSM was exposed by Bernard Goldman.  This very dilema came up in his book.  It was humerous, but also pathetic how they think and follow like sheep.

Yes, we do know who the racists are just by reading through one day’s threads here and seeing the horrible, racist terms used for Arabs and/or Muslims.

Chief, bad definition.  There are Jews who are citizens of many nations, not just Israel.  Paul defines what a Jew is as one who is one inwardly.  He says all believers in Christ are the same…there is no more Jew or Gentile.  Since you brought Bible promises to ‘Jews’ for Israel into the discussion, you should know that you were wrong.  There were no covenants given to ‘Jews’ or Madonna would be part of a covenant.

The covenants were broken by the Israelites.  The promises had conditions which were also broken (to David’s sons sitting on his throne in a natural sense…all conditional and broken).

Catching up:  Jews are citizens of Israel.  They are also followers of their religion.  The God they follow is probably the one of Abraham, Moses and others.  Jesus included gentiles (pagans).  Paul assisted many in this understanding. 

They cannot be following the God Jesus talks about as his Father because he says NO ONE comes to the Father except through him and Jews reject Jesus.  So, either Jesus’ Father is not the God of Abraham, or the God of Abraham is not approachable by the Jews.  You have to make your own decision on that. 

Paul further explained that a true Jew is a person who worships God in the spirit.  Jesus called Jews who persecuted him children of the devil.

Chief, if you are going to use the Bible, you need to know what it says and be able to back it up. 

 

As to the definition of White people, they are just that White and people.

And, of course, my six questions weren’t even attempted by any but Chief, who knows that a Jew is someone who practices Judaism  but can’t prove from the Bible he mentioned that people who practice Judaism were promised a land called Israel.

So, there you have it.

By the way, going beyond all the wrong thinking of Chief on the subject, the Israel of today in no way resembles the original Promised Land/Canaan.  The original was divided by tribes and the borders were important.  Any women inheriting couldn’t marry outside the tribe unless they gave up their right of inheritance so that the land wouldn’t be mixed between tribes.  That’s just ONE discrepancy; there are many.

 

Now:  Did you see the survey done that was blocked from even being mentioned in the news by "palestinians"?  It showed that just about 15% wanted to "return to some undefined—homeland".

No I didn’t.  Who did it?  Stop putting Palestinians in quotes.  They are recognized by the United Nations.  It shows disrespect.  If I did it with Jews, I’d again be acccused of racism.  I accuse you of same by putting quotes around the word Palestinains.  I would like to see it; please link it.

There have been accidental firings on ships, airplanes and people by many nations.  An accidental attack does not constitute an invasion.

I suppose you are talking the Israelis firing on our ship?  So, you believe them because they are Israelis and of course would not do anything harmful to us???  Does the name Jonathan Pollard ring a bell?

Chief, being such a law and order type guy, maybe you can explain why you don’t support and enforce U.N. Resolution 194.  It also makes it clear there is a PALESTINE:

The General Assembly,

Having considered further the situation in Palestine,

1. Expresses its deep appreciation of the progress achieved through the good offices of the late United Nations Mediator in promoting a peaceful adjustment of the future situation of Palestine, for which cause he sacrificed his life; and extends its thanks to the Acting Mediator and his staff for their continued efforts and devotion to duty in Palestine;

2. Establishes a Conciliation Commission consisting of three States Members of the United Nations which shall have the following functions:

(a) To assume, in so far as it considers necessary in existing circumstances, the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by resolution 186 (S-2) of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948;

(b) To carry out the specific functions and directives given to it by the present resolution and such additional functions and directives as may be given to it by the General Assembly or by the Security Council;

(c) To undertake, upon the request of the Security Council, any of the functions now assigned to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine or to the United Nations Truce Commission by resolutions of the Security Council; upon such request to the Conciliation Commission by the Security Council with respect to all the remaining functions of the United Nations Mediator on Palestine under Security Council resolutions, the office of the Mediator shall be terminated;

3. Decides that a Committee of the Assembly, consisting of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, shall present, before the end of the first part of the present session of the General Assembly, for the approval of the Assembly, a proposal concerning the names of the three States which will constitute the Conciliation Commission;

4. Requests the Commission to begin its functions at once, with a view to the establishment of contact between the parties themselves and the Commission at the earliest possible date;

5. Calls upon the Governments and authorities concerned to extend the scope of the negotiations provided for in the Security Council’s resolution of 16 November 1948 and to seek agreement by negotiations conducted either with the Conciliation Commission or directly with a view to the final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;

6. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to take steps to assist the Government and authorities concerned to achieve a final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;

7. Resolves that the Holy Places - including Nazareth - religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposal for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;

8. Resolves that, in view of its association with three world religions, the Jerusalem area, including the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most Eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most Southern, Bethlehem; the most Western, Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most Northern, Shu’fat, should be accorded special and separate treatment from the rest of Palestine and should be placed under effective United Nations control;

Requests the Security Council to take further steps to ensure the demilitarization of Jerusalem at the earliest possible date;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to present to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the Jerusalem area which will provide for the maximum local autonomy for distinctive groups consistent with the special international status of the Jerusalem area;

The Conciliation Commission is authorized to appoint a United Nations representative who shall cooperate with the local authorities with respect to the interim administration of the Jerusalem area;

9. Resolves that, pending agreement on more detailed arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned, the freest possible access to Jerusalem by road, rail or air should be accorded to all inhabitants of Palestine;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to report immediately to the Security Council, for appropriate action by that organ, any attempt by any party to impede such access;

10. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to seek arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned which will facilitate the economic development of the area, including arrangements for access to ports and airfields and the use of transportation and communication facilities;

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;

Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;

12. Authorizes the Conciliation Commission to appoint such subsidiary bodies and to employ such technical experts, acting under its authority, as it may find necessary for the effective discharge of its functions and responsibilities under the present resolution;

The Conciliation Commission will have its official headquarters at Jerusalem. The authorities responsible for maintaining order in Jerusalem will be responsible for taking all measures necessary to ensure the security of the Commission. The Secretary-General will provide a limited number of guards for the protection of the staff and premises of the Commission;

13. Instructs the Conciliation Commission to render progress reports periodically to the Secret ary-General for transmission to the Security Council and to the Members of the United Nations;

14. Calls upon all Governments and authorities concerned to cooperate with the Conciliation Commission and to take all possible steps to assist in the implementation of the present resolution;

15. Requests the Secretary-General to provide the necessary staff and facilities and to make appropriate arrangements to provide the necessary funds required in carrying out the terms of the present resolution.

 

AND, since Tea thinks the General Assembly resolutions are nothing more than suggestions or something, how about a Security Council resolution on the subject, 242:

The Security Council,

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles: Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force; Affirms further the necessity For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area; For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem; For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;

Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible.

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So, until you people know what in the heck you’re talking about, it’s just best to keep quiet and not show your ignorance.

Is the United States bound by the UN ?...

Is the United States bound by the UN ?...

No.

But we should withdrawl from the UN and evict them from the building.  

All that wasted space on hot air could be sheltering a lot of homeless folks. 

"Is the United States bound by the UN ?..."

Zsa Zsa,

Not unless we stupidly choose to be.

Meanwhile, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the so-called Palestinian Authority is not a legitimate government, and that it has no sovereignty.  And the exquisite beauty of that ruling is that the lead counsel for the losing side was former Attorney General, and radical leftist Ramsey Clark, proving that while Clarke might indeed be a fascinating guest of honor at a posh, upper east side Manhattan radical chic cocktail party and fundraiser, he is a totally incompetent failure as an attorney. 

"Meanwhile, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the so-called Palestinian Authority is not a legitimate government, and that it has no sovereignty. "

And that has about as much weight as the UN - Zero.  As far as I know we haven’t completely shutoff the foreign aid to them.

Does anyone know how much of the aid we send to Israel actually ends up supporting the Palistinians since Israel has a welfare system for Palistine? 

Free…You are so correct. Everyone say bye bye to the UN! Israel should = the exception to the rule. They are sandwiched in between hostile muslim crazed suicide bombers. The mideast is so hostile. Imagine raising your children to grow up to be a suicide bombers???

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3. Decides that a Committee of the Assembly, consisting of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,

  What is that supposed to mean?

Bat One…Does this mean the SC actually got something right? Amazing ... That is good news!