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Yeah, baby! And it’s not even Friday night!

Long live Freedom!

Excuse me, you were saying?

She’s very sparklie.

TANSTAAFL

I prefer Rihanna.

The shock and awe I could do…

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If I got some, my wife would kill me.  Besides not being allowed within 500 feet now.  Yeah, you just spout on about freedom. 

(sparklie . . .  shiny . . .  soft focus. . .)

LOL, is it not obvious why this sensually beautiful and talented female is shunned? It’s not because she is too sexy or provocative for their culture ...perhaps it’s because she isn’t what their men desire? And… could they be covering their women up because it’s not what they prefer to view?

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Muslim rakkas (performer for male audiences)

btw Hoodlumman, was that you in that clip wearing the pink tutu?
j/k

My company does business in Malaysia, and while there, I read that Malaysia is one of the top markets in the world for lingerie.  So it’s not altogether impossible that what Anna says is right; that Malays simply like to keep feminine beauty covered until the right moment.

BB, That wasn’t exactly what I was saying. Granted, I am not always clear in explaining, so I’ll do a little now.
Because of the historical repression of Islamic women they were not the gender to entertain during Islamic male get togethers. Customarily, men would watch male belly dancers, also known as rakkas, to satisfy their desire to see something aesthetically invigorating ... hmm?
Anyway, I plan on elaborating further in a full post soon, but it seems to correlate a wee bit with the denial of any homosexuality over yonder in the Mid Eastland we’ve been discussing lately

Yeah, this is “freedom”:

It get’s worse. It’s society is called a “rape culture” with data showing:

-- one-fourth of its adult women victims of forcible rape sometime in their lives, often by someone they know, including family members;

-- one-third of them are victims of sexual abuse by a husband or boyfriend;

-- 30% of people in the country say they know a woman who’s been physically abused by her husband or boyfriend in the past year;

-- one in four of its women report being sexually molested in childhood, usually repeatedly over extended periods by a family member or other close relative;

-- its women overall experience extreme levels of violence; an astonishing 75% of them are victims of some form of it in their lifetimes;

--domestic violence is their leading cause of injury and second leading cause of death;

-- statistically, homes are their most dangerous place if men are in them as millions experience battering by husbands, male partners or fathers;

-- for most women with children, there’s no escape for lack of means and because male assailants pursue them causing greater harm; http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=72&ItemID=13882

“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

And the stats of sex crimes and domestic abuse in Muslim countries is what AV?

Assuming that those rates are much higher, and I believe they are, then you really don’t have a point do you? 

I’m not surprised.

TANSTAAFL

Whistler: What makes you think the rates are higher in Muslim countries? Fox News?

Name one non-war-torn country with higher violence and sexual abuse rates against women than the US (you can even choose Muslim countries).

“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

Since muslim countries DON’T track those statistics reliable there’s no way to be sure.  That’s why I said that I believe those rates are higher. 

Women that are raped are treated worse than the rapists in those countries.  If there’s any deterrent to rape it’s not coming from the law, perhaps from families exercising street justice.

I’ve also heard of women in say France who have to wear Muslim headscarves to not be treated like a whore and raped. 

I don’t have those numbers and neither do you.

TANSTAAFL

Anarchist Vegetarian it’s absolutely absurd that you can compare the life of an American woman as being anywhere near the life of a Muslim woman.
The most vital difference is American women have endless options to makes choices from regarding any situation they are presented with. Muslim women have two choices… life or death and sometimes that isn’t even hers to make.

Anarchist Vegetarian it’s absolutely absurd that you can compare the life of an American woman as being anywhere near the life of a Muslim woman.—Anna

Anna, I didn’t. The treatment of women in many Muslim countries, even the more progressive ones like Malaysia, is appalling.

But even in the US, I think that there is still some progress needed so that women are treated better. The statistics I cited shocked me. I have done some more research and WHO statistics seem to agree with these too.

“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

AV, exactly how is one to take an accurate survey of what goes on in a war-torn country?  The ugly fact here is that even in the relatively peaceful United States, many survey-takers write down every case where a women “didn’t really want sex” as a “forcible rape,” leading to a huge overestimate of our rate of forcible rape.

In other words, whatever your sources are, official FBI crime statistics are not among them, and your basis for comparison with any war-torn country is thus irreparably flawed--even if you could collect accurate data about this in a war-torn country, which you generally cannot for many reasons.

On another topic; Anna, you have once again educated me on a topic.  I’m not quite sure I’m grateful to know this, though.  :^)

Bubba, I specifically excluded war-torn countries. Look a couple of posts up. Why bring them up?

many survey-takers write down every case where a women “didn’t really want sex” as a “forcible rape,” leading to a huge overestimate of our rate of forcible rape.—Bubba

I bet you cannot prove this. For you to even think this, presumably without any evidence, makes you an ass-hole.

And why would FBI crime statistics be of much use when many/most rapes go unreported?

“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

Name one non-war-torn country with higher violence and sexual abuse rates against women than the US (you can even choose Muslim countries).

AV, given that this is a quote of you, my comments are perfectly applicable.  And yes, the 25% rape “statistic” does derive from a survey using exactly the methodology that I mentioned.  It came out in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and the methodology caused quite a scandal.

At least among those who actually realize that methodology makes a difference.  You may not be in this group, but I hope you join it someday.

non-war-torn—Me

Bubba, do you what `non’ means when used as a prefix (though maybe not completely correct English to always use it that way)? It sure looks like I was excluding war-torn countries to me.

“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik