Here Comes The Nationalization Of The Tobacco Industry

Ted Kennedy’s bill handing over management of the tobacco industry to the FDA has passed cloture in the Senate. The Democrats have the votes to pass it, and Obama has said he’ll sign it in to law. Which means that the tobacco industry will soon be all but nationalized in America, and will be run by a bunch of bureaucrats who fully intend on grinding it into extinction.
Because it’s not like this is a free country where people can smoke tobacco if they want to or anything.

In a sign of the significant weakening of the tobacco lobby, the Senate on Wednesday moved toward a vote on regulating tobacco in a big way.
The Senate voted 67-30 to end debate — a procedural move — on the legislation, which would give the Food and Drug Administration significant regulatory power over the packaging, manufacturing and marketing of tobacco products. If the legislation is signed into law, which the White House — even with a reformed smoker as president — has indicated a willingness to do so, it will give the F.D.A. more power to ascertain what a “light” smoke means or whatever, and whether there is any distinction whatsoever in the harm to a person’s lungs.
Senator Christopher Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, took to the floor just after the vote and was practically breathless in signifying the historic nature of the sea change on this issue, which has been percolating for about a decade. He indicated that a final vote may come on Thursday.
The legislation is personally significant to many lawmakers, who have taken to the floors of the House and Senate, to recount the losses of close family members, fathers and mothers, who died of lung cancer.

This bill will give the FDA the power to regulate everything from how the cigarettes are marketed to what is on the packaging to what ingredients are in the cigarettes themselves. And if you don’t think the intent here is to drive the tobacco industry right into the ground by driving up costs while depressing sales, you’re kidding yourself.
That last bit, with members of Congress lamenting friends and family lost to cancer as the bill passes, indicates what the real goal is here. Not regulation or public safety, but rather prohibition. Because it’s not about public health, it’s about forcing people to live in government-approved ways.
Just like the “lifestyle” taxes and the regulations on what kind of car you can drive, this is just another way in which the government is going to pressure you into living like they think you should. And while I fully agree that smoking is unhealthy, and while I personally dislike smoking and go to great lengths to avoid it when I can, this should be a free country where individuals can choose to smoke if they want to. And where property owners can choose to allow smoking if they want to.
Unfortunately, individual freedom just isn’t something big government authoritarians like or understand.

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Some are turned in by their maids.

  • NoJelly

    Rob:

    the tobacco industry will soon be all but nationalized in America, and will be run by a bunch of bureaucrats who fully intend on grinding it into extinction.

    I find this to be bullshit of the 1st degree. Tobacco is the cash cow of cash cows for these treacherous bastards we have installed as legislators. They can tax the hell out of it with impunity, knowing full well that they’ll have the support of large groups. In the same breath they will it’s sale and use by any means they can get away with without being seen doing it.

    The “right” thing to do, if tobacco is such a killer, is to BAN THE SHIT. It doesn’t a brain surgeon…

  • robert108

    The real disconnect from reality about legalization is the fact that the drug laws in Mexico are much harsher than ours, which drives the drugs into the US, where the laws are much more permissive. Like most of this mistaken ideology, blaming enforcement for the problem is pure bunk.

  • JimH

    There are many people that smoke that never have health problems and I’ve known pot smokers that lived productive lives.

    Sure a lot of people smoke all their lives without having any obvious health problems. I know a couple, you’ll never see them running. Pot smokers are different. They know the dangers of smoking pot aren’t just theirs. They just don’t care. I drink, at home. Drunk drivers are an easy equal to pot smokers, kind of. Drunk drivers are taking other peoples lives into their hands. Pot smokers are almost guaranteeing the death of a person. It is dramatic. But is it also true.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    robert108, supply is only one part of the drug problem. Moral weakness is the other side.
    Weak people will seek out drugs wherever they are. Yes, certain drugs are addictive and should be excluded from minor’s reach.

    This is one difficult question that I would be glad to engage with you.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Agreed. I remember when tobacco companies offered free chewing tobacco in the locker rooms of major league teams. Children saw the players chewing, and they followed.

    Apprehension and conviction of drug pushers, then users of illegal drugs (not those prescribed by a doctor) should bring many people back to reality. Following God and His ways would also go a long way to restoring our morality.

  • robert108

    Chief: I agree that drug use is stupid and destructive, but even dope-addled people will seek out the most permissive atmosphere in which to consume their drugs, and that atmosphere is in the US, despite all the libertarian propaganda to the contrary.

  • docdave

    Smoking cigarettes doesn’t really hurt anyone but the smoker. Oh, and people stupid enough to stand next to them.Pot is a killer, start to finish

    None of the above is absolutely true. There are many people that smoke that never have health problems and I’ve known pot smokers that lived productive lives. Like all things ingested, it’s the excessive that causes health problems. One is as likely (perhaps more likely) to get health problems from excessive alcohol and food consumption than from other causes.

  • Bat One

    I’m guessing that eventually we will begin subsidizing the tobacco industry.

    Of course! Its how Democrats buy votes in rural Virginia, North Carolina and eastern Tennessee.

  • JimH

    I watched a lady pat 5.58 for a pack today. i was floored. Have kicked that chewing habit more than two years ago i had no idea the cost it was taking this chick to kill herself. Next year it will be double that. However it is her right to do so. Smoking is unhealthy for her and the people dumb enough to stand next to her while she does. But it hurts just her,and the people stupid enough to stand next to her.

    Sugartater kicked the bear so i will to. The pot smokers,say it not any different than puffing sigs. Everyone that went to High school knows that it is. One good lung full and your as high as i am now. Only an untold number of people wer’nt killed to get my Old Crow to market. Nor does my sour mash deal out anywhere the number of poisons. As unhealthy as smoking is for just that lady, pot is just as bad for everyone.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Some confess their sins and mistakes, but many do not.

  • JimH

    Making the violent drug black market obsolete is a good argument in favor of legalization.

    Your as dumb as dino if you think that legalizing pot will settle the violence surrounding it. And only a pothead would say that nobody ever proved that pot is any worse than cigs.

    You would have to legalize all the other crap out there to and that just aint gonna happen. There isnt a real argument for pot. Meth and crack are forget it.

    http://www.theantidrug.com/drug_info/drug-info-truth-about-marijuana.asp

  • dragon poker

    Pot smokers are almost guaranteeing the death of a person. It is dramatic. But is it also true.

    This is a crock of shit. There are no credible studies that show pot is any more harmful than alcohol or cigarettes.
    As far as your “corridor” goes, it is a direct result of the prohibition itself. Just as was the case with alcohol prohibition, the prohibition itself caused the vast majority of the deaths due to the black market distribution system that is inevitable with any prohibition.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

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    Weak people will seek out drugs wherever they are.

  • http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon

    I’m guessing that eventually we will begin subsidizing the tobacco industry. If we were to kill it off, how would we pay for childrens’ health care?

    Buy cigarettes – it’s for the children.

  • JimH

    Jim, the point isn’t how unhealthy it is. The point is that I should be free to do that which doesn’t hurt anyone else.

    I am good with that.

    Smoking cigarettes doesn’t really hurt anyone but the smoker. Oh, and people stupid enough to stand next to them.Pot is a killer, start to finish. I live in a trafficking corridor. Someone, that doesn’t even even know someone that smokes pot, will die today so some berkly prof can get in the mood to teach his class today.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Rob:

    Unfortunately, individual freedom just isn’t something big government authoritarians like or understand.

    You don’t either but that hasn’t stopped you from being entirely selective in your judgments due to naivete in your reasoning. That naivete in the next generation of Republicans will doom this country to being run by the left further into the ground.

    Some things come with too high a moral cost. Tobacco is not one of them. Marijuana is. You know why, you just refuse to accept the responsibility that goes with the aftermath of legalization.

    You also know full well that this is not about right or wrong or about like or dislike. This is only about people wanting to get their way. In what manner is not the point. The way is chosen, and they will have it and you won’t stop them. Because you refuse to accept the reality of why and how they function, you cannot counteract them.

    I guarantee you Ronald Reagan, who charged to victory over the left with ease, was not in favor of pot and giving alcohol to teens. A strong sense of right and wrong and honest appraisal of your fellow man and society without wishful thinking or nihilistic delusion is what is needed to get this nation back.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Jim, the point isn’t how unhealthy it is. The point is that I should be free to do that which doesn’t hurt anyone else.

    Suitepotato, I am 100% consistent in my support of liberty and you’re not. Because for some reason you think liberty means telling other people how to live.

    not that your emotional tirades on the subject are even worth responding to at this point.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Pot is a killer, start to finish. I live in a trafficking corridor. Someone, that doesn’t even even know someone that smokes pot, will die today so some berkly prof can get in the mood to teach his class today.

    Making the violent drug black market obsolete is a good argument in favor of legalization.

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