Herald Columnist Doreen Yellow Bird Accuses Me Of “Backhanded Bigotry”

You can read her entire column here.
To be perfectly honest with you, I’m not sure what the point of her column is. She tells me to “check” my “facts,” and then launches into a long-winding, rambling description of all the successful people and businesses that have come from the Turtle Mountain reservation. But, the successful people and businesses who have come from the reservation weren’t the point of my column. The successful people and businesses on the reservation aren’t what we need to be talking about. What we need to be talking about are those on the reservation who are unemployed, addicted to drugs and alcohol and living in poverty in number disproportionate to the rest of the state.
Yellow Bird questions my facts, though she certainly doesn’t point to which of the stated facts in my column are false, but if she wants facts here are some more for her:
73% of Rolette County, North Dakota (which encompasses the Turtle Mountain reservation) is Indian, and that county has an unemployment rate 20% higher than the national average.
27% of North Dakota’s TANF (welfare) caseload is in Rolette County, yet the citizens of that county make up only 2% of the state’s population.
In 2005 Rolette County’s unemployment rate was 9.5%. The rest of the state was at 3.4%.
According to HUD, unemployment on the Turtle Mountain Reservation exceeds 30%. According to the North Dakota Indian Affairs Commission, the average unemployment rate for all of North Dakota’s Indian reservations is 63%.
According to the National Insitute of Justice, which conducted a nationwide study of crime on Indian reservations that included North Dakota’s Forth Berthold reservation, crime on the reservations ” is likely to be between double and triple the national average” and that “comparable communities would be large urban areas with high violent crime rates.”
Doreen Yellow Bird can talk all she wants about those Indians who have found success both on and off the reservation, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but one has to wonder why she gets upset when someone wants to talk about the overwhelming number of problems the reservations have as well.
Why she feels like she needs to call those who want to talk about those problems “bigots.”
Frankly, I think it’s people like Yellow Bird who are the biggest obstacle to change on the reservations simply because people like her will attack anyone who talks about the real problems those reservations have.

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  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    “Kade”: An Old Indian word meaning “Liar who drools”.

  • jd

    I noticed you cannot leave comments there either. Interesting.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I just don't understand what her story had to do with Rob's.

    I'm glad for the people who are successful from the reservation but that doesn't mean we should just forget about the people who are not.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Robert Perry

    http://www.hud.gov/news/release.cfm?content=pr02-…

    Take a look. There is a bitter irony in that many of those who most revile our gracious host's work, including the tribal council, put together a document for this HUD grant that more or less corroborates Rob's claims.

    Yes, there are those who are doing well, thankfully. However, the statistical "mode" is the picture that the tribe drew for HUD, not the one they're using in attacking Rob.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I didn't see where HUD was telling both sides of the story.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Blogger should learn lesson about Indian life

    Lesson: only Indians are allowed to speak about Indian problems.

    The only right us non-Indians have is to fork over our taxes to the failing system.

    Another lesson: don't invest money anywhere in the Turtle Mountain reservation of Belcourt, North Dakota. It's too risky. They've banned Rob Port because he stated realities that they would rather not hear. Why would you risk capital in such a place?

    I did like laugh at her claim of, "No one has given Indian people anything." Cool! Now give us back the welfare money you took from us.

    Stop writing bigoted and crappy articles, Dorreen Yellow Bird, and next time get the facts right.

  • halatbis

    I have read articles by Yellowbird from time to time and find them to be defensive when they deal with Indian affairs. Perhaps to paraphrase an old saying, there is much to be defensive about. I lived in other states for most of my working career and moved back to North Dakota in 2001 after 40 plus years away–I was surprised and saddened and appalled at the state of Indian affairs in my home state that took place in 40 years. There has been a downward slide that has taken the people into a hopeless dependency upon the welfare handouts and largess of government. The family units have been broken by the dependency on "free money" and the work ethic is gone.
    I maintain that the sad conditions on our reservations and within the Indian families is the fault of a welfare/federal system run amok. Our newpapers and media are afraid to touch this issue. Our good senators and congressman will not offer one critical comment about the conditions–and they know best just how bad it is–they are content to let it go because they reap about 95% of the vote of the Rez.
    The whole business is so lame, so sorry, so pathetic that a person could scream! Rob, you are one of the targets–there will be lots of arrows coming your way as you shine light on this subject. Sorry for the bad choice of metaphor.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Robert Perry

    Actually, Rob could probably have gotten away with what he wrote if he hadn't pointed out that the so-called "solution"–reservations and heavy welfare payments in many areas–may actually be the problem.

    To draw a picture, look at what happens to black conservatives. You can point out the problems in any community until you tick of the liberals who are "solving" problems in such a way as to make them last into perpetuity.

  • docdave

    Our good senators and congressman will not offer one critical comment about the conditions–and they know best just how bad it is–they are content to let it go because they reap about 95% of the vote of the Rez.

    Good honest assessment, halatbis. You'll probable be banned for it.

    I guess it's just coincidental that most of these 'good senators and congressmen' are Democrats.

  • Mickey

    I have never been to this reservation but from what I have read thus far from both sides of the issue I need to ask,
    "what have all the successful people and businesses that have come from the Turtle Mountain reservation, done for the reservation lately"?

    If conditions are as Rob states in his blog, then these tribal success stories are as guilty as the white men whom they find fault with. These are their people, they should be putting something back into their tribe.

    Time to walk the talk.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    It's interesting that in Yellow Bird's columns one of the examples she holds up for success on the reservation is one that's based…in Bismarck/Mandan. Several hundred miles from the reservation.

    I wonder why that is?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I maintain that the sad conditions on our reservations and within the Indian families is the fault of a welfare/federal system run amok.

    Which would only seem natural, since the federal welfare system runs amok everywhere it exists. Contrary to Rob's critics, it's not racial to point out that it is as destructive on the rez as it is off.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    That's probably the most frustrating thing about this whole controversy, proof, is that I never really blamed the Indians themselves for the conditions they're living in. I blamed the American government, which forcefully herded them onto the reservations and has done them a grave disservice ever since.

    The only thing I blame Indians for is much of the response to the column, much of which has been needlessly defensive, rude, and down-right un-American.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Another lesson: don't invest money anywhere in the Turtle Mountain reservation of Belcourt, North Dakota. It's too risky. They've banned Rob Port because he stated realities that they would rather not hear. Why would you risk capital in such a place?

    You have high capital in many aspects. If the crime rate is 2-3 times greater than the average, the poverty rate is sky high, and people don't have jobs–don't you think theft and vandalism are major risks too?

    While Rob doesn't blame the tribes for a lot of what is happening, this much I am sure of–the only thing that allows a stable and growing economic system is one that secures property rights and provides for the rule of law. These reservations are corruption filled and have governments that turn a blind eye to crime in favor of pointing a shaking finger at folks like Rob.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    The tribe is violating his right to free speech and free press, Port claims. But really, now. For someone with no voice, he is whining pretty loud. The Herald, the Turtle Mountain Star, the Minot Daily News and the tribal newspaper, the Turtle Mountain Times, are among the many newspapers publishing his copy. He has had lots of Internet and talk-radio attention, too.

    So freedom of speech means that you can say anything that you want as long as you are in a "free speech zone" but that government should have the right to ban you from large areas of land so that your free speech doesn't piss people off? You have the right to say or publish anything you want, the government just reserves the right to ban you if they don't like what you say.

    Glad she understands free speech. Now STFU, Rob.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    I have yet to see where anyone specifically shows falsity in Rob's article
    Although, I honestly believe some didn't completely read it or if they did they weren't able to comprehend the meaning of some of the words. Of the people that don't have the excuse of being ignorant and don't back Rob obviously means political or public intimidation.
    For my own benefit I critiqued Rob's Article and now maybe others can help if I'm incorrect. Please show me where Rob lied, slandered, hated, etc
    [paragraph one]
    TRUE. He did visit for 15 hours and was shocked
    [paragraph two]
    TRUE. He's spent a lot of time, worked there, visited, driven, and delivered things. He's aware. He had an intimate look and he's not impressed.
    [paragraph three]
    TRUE. He did notice. He did receive an answer at most knocks. He has never had that experience off the reservation. Yes, that statistic is correct.
    [paragraph four]
    TRUE. It is sad. It is amazing. He did see kids and homes as he described and he was teary eyed. He did see the interior of homes and even saw the children playing there.
    [paragraph five]
    TRUE. No one can deny any of this.
    [paragraph six]
    TRUE. He's not sure they can be beat.
    [paragraph seven]
    TRUE. The state is thriving, unemployment is low and yep… true as all hell, no one is going to want to hear it.
    [paragraph eight]
    TRUE. Of this specific group of people in a specific area of the reservation all the above is true. Not only is it true but most Americans don't know it's happening on reservations like other places in America. Majority of America believes that the Native Americans are well provided for and for the most part they are. The specific people Rob mentioned are being neglected and over looked. Nowhere did Rob state that all residents were like this and nowhere did he say there weren't non-Indians in the same situation.
    [paragraph nine]
    TRUE. We give the opportunity and it won't make a difference to the people Rob is talking about.
    [paragraph eleven]
    TRUE. The gov't has been taking care of the Indians [note that he didn't say turtle Mt Indians]. Yes, it's true that it's cruel to continue the system the way just so it's not cruel to the recipients. It is cruel that our gov't permits these specific people not to better themselves… as if they're not more worthy to society? It is time for them to become self sufficient and it's also time to stop covering up the condition.. whomever may be doing so.

    Possibly I missed the falsity in Rob's article so please do clarify my mistake. From what I have pointed out is that Rob told the truth and if that's what he's guilty of we need to rewrite the Ten Commandments and the Declaration of Independence.
    The most significant thing Rob said in his article is

    "but not a lot of people are going to want to hear it."

    ____
    "A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race–and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Anna,

    The only critique that I have seen of it is that they believe that Rob's intentional omission of the fact that not all Indians are unemployed drunks and drug addicts living in filth makes the entire column false and slanderous or libelous. By saying true things but not including all other non-related true things, it makes the column false.

    In the future, Rob may want to include that gravity still works on Indian Reservations, the Sun rises in the East, and 2+2=4 even on the Rez. Don't want to misrepresent any facts because if you leave anything out, it means that you are a bigot. Somehow, they believe that Indian success stories off the Rez like Doreen Yellowbird cites being left out makes Rob's column false is justifies expelling him from the Rez.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Can someone tell me where KXMB CBS12 came up with "The column called for an end to reservations."

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Well Rob did post about the Reservations being bad for the Indian people here. The way I read it the Indians would be better off if they ended the reservations themselves.

    I wouldn't see any justification for it being done by fiat from Congress.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    From what I read on KXMB CBS12 they're claiming that was in his oringinal article that started all this. I'm find it appalling how they get to say whatever they want (without proof) about Rob and the rest of us that are here. It will be interesting just how many of us they're going to ban because we stand by the truth.

    His column, which ran in January, was titled "The Appalling
    State of North Dakota Indian Reservations." It talked about the
    conditions of homes Port saw on the Turtle Mountain reservation.

    The column called for an end to reservations.

    Tribal Vice Chairman Ted Henry said tribal officials were
    getting calls to do something. He said the column is unfair. The
    tribal resolution demands a retraction.

  • Kade

    Rob…

    You are such a victim. Everyone is always picking on you are calling you a bigot. I wonder why? Could it be that everyone is wrong? Or is it that you actually are the leader of a growing coterie of closet bigots who finally found someone tactless enough to actually write what they feel in their hearts.

    You are not a victim Rob. You are a bully…and like all bullies (your readership included), you need the reassurance and support of others in order to man up enough courage before you bully. Essentially, you are a weakling and a coward.

    Be brave. You and your readers are bigots and should stand up and admit it. Don't be ashamed of yourself. As people like you are so fond of pointing out, society is too politically correct and censures free speech and expression. Be a rebel. Stand up to the P.C. forces and be excalaim proudly…MY NAME IS ROB PORT, AND I AM A BIGOT.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Note that the censors can't come up with a sound argument, they can only call names.

  • Kade

    Note that the censors can't come up with a sound argument, they can only call names.

    I am actually encouraging Rob and you dittoheads to feel free to not censor yourselves…feel free to speak what is in your minds and hearts.

    In other words…be the bigots you all are.

  • Kade

    "Kade": An Old Indian word meaning "Liar who drools".

    Look up racist comments in the dictionary, and this is a good example.

    So, what is Proof, redneck for retard?

  • andy l

    "Kade": An Old Indian word meaning "Liar who drools".
    Proof on May 22, 2007 at 06:23 pm

    Truly bigotted, racist and hateful remark!

  • andy l

    Note that the censors can't come up with a sound argument, they can only call names.
    The Whistler on May 22, 2007 at 06:14 pm

    Like you haven't done that! What, you above it?

  • andy l

    Can someone tell me where KXMB CBS12 came up with "The column called for an end to reservations."
    Anna on May 22, 2007 at 03:36 pm

    Read the article. Also, mentioned numerous times in various threads at this site. Anna, you defend Rob and his teletubbies. Why? Are you an Indian hater too?

  • docdave

    I am actually encouraging Rob and you dittoheads to feel free to not censor yourselves…feel free to speak what is in your minds and hearts.

    Like we need your permission.

    Everyone is always picking on you are calling you a bigot.

    Everyone? I don't think so. I guess you said that to try to give weight to your lame insults. To you, everyone must be your beer drinking (dope using?) buddies.

    Come back when and if you have something worthwhile to say. I won't hold my breath.

  • andy l

    Justin B. Get with the program. The banishment/exclusion order from the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa has nothing to do with free speech. Has his free speech been curtailed? Where?

  • andy l

    Come back when and if you have something worthwhile to say. I won't hold my breath.
    docdave on May 22, 2007 at 06:52 pm

    doc dave. Please, hold your breath. Do the world a favor.

  • skh.pcola

    There ought to be a limit on how often leftard mouth-breathing liars who drool can post. If you have to write the crap that you call "my opinion" down so that you can consolidate it into one post, so be it. I'll bet the BIA even has free pens or pencils.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Truly bigotted, racist and hateful remark!

    andy l. : An Old German word for "Fool who drools" Better? More PC?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Kade,
    You just did what you claimed Rob did. You made Rob and anyone reading your words believe that everyone thinks he's wrong. You neglected to mention that the majority of people don't think he's wrong. Fact you forgot to mention all the other things that we talk about here too. But really Kade don't worry about it because … I suppose that wasn't the issue you were addressing was it. Plus, here in America we believe in the freedom of speech. Hmm.. who woulda thunk!
    ____
    "A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race–and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Look up racist comments in the dictionary, and this is a good example.

    Wrong again, bucko! I could give a good rat's crap what color or race any of you guys are! I'm not the one hung up about being 1/2, or 1/3 or 1/8 of anything!
    Stop projecting! And stop lying and I'll stop mocking you!

  • Bat One

    An Old German word for "Fool who drools" Better?

    Proof,

    Don't confuse the poor boy. He is clearly having enough trouble with English.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Andy: You and Kade are desperately hoping you can catch us in something that can be construed as "racist" so you can feel better about your own, narrow-minded, bigoted little world. Pathetic!
    Defend your victimhood. It's all you've got!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    That and the cushy tribal/government job they have or are campaigning for.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Earth to Andy L.: Race is NOT the prism everyone uses to view other people! as Anna so cogently writes:

    "A genius is a genius, regardless of the number of morons who belong to the same race–and a moron is a moron, regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin."

    Yell "bigot" a few more times! I think it's working!
    /sarcasm

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Andy..such the antagonist. If you would read the entire question I asked you would be able to understand why I'm asking.
    Now if my seeking factual answers is bothersome to you then please feel free to .. well, I don't know maybe close your eyes?
    Nothing I have or ever will write gives you the right to ask if I have an ethnical hate.

  • Seth Yantiss

    Whistler,

    I just don't understand what her story had to do with Rob's.

    There have been a good number of people that have gotten successful by riding the waves of a controversy. Nifong is a recent example.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    A. I don't have to live there
    B. I guess I don't need to give a shit whether Rob is right or wrong about the conditions

    So…

    C. Go fuck yourselves when your tribal leaders want development grant money and tell us a sob story about no employment and poverty and alcohol abuse

    I am really at the point where I am just going to turn a blind eye like you all want me to towards the entire state of affairs on the Rez. I have no problems with Indians. Enjoy your poverty, unemployment, crime, drug abuse, and so on. Don't come asking for my tax dollars or sympathy when your reservations continue to be massive pockets of poverty.

  • Kade

    PROOF…YOU SAID…

    Andy: You and Kade are desperately hoping you can catch us in something that can be construed as "racist" so you can feel better about your own, narrow-minded, bigoted little world. Pathetic!

    YET ON ANOTHER STORY ROB GLEEFULLY EXPOSES A STORY WITH RACE (WHITE VICTIMS OF EVIL COLORED FOLKS)…

    John Leo has a terrific story on the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom media blackout. You'll remember they're the white couple that was kidnapped and treated horribly before they were murdered. Of course the story didn't get national attention because the people arrested for the crime are black while the victims were white. It just doesn't match the media's template so they just aren't going to cover it.

    DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE RACISM AND LEADING RACE-BAITING IN THIS? ITS LIKE A TWILIGHT ZONE EPISODE.

  • Kade

    One definition of racism that makes sense in terms of this blog is:

    An assumption that there is an inherent purity and superiority of certain races and inferiority of others. It denotes any attitude, behavior, or institutional structure that subordinates, persons or groups because of their race or ethnic background. Such practices can be intentional or unintentional.

    Shall I find more??

  • Kade

    If you are wondering what the previous post was regarding, see any of Rob's postings, or any other fanboy posting, and apply the above definition.

  • Kade

    Another great definition…

    practices and attitudes that display dislike or antagonism towards people seen as belonging to particular ethnic groups. Social significance is attached to culturally constructed ideas of difference.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    practices and attitudes that display dislike or antagonism towards people seen as belonging to particular ethnic groups. Social significance is attached to culturally constructed ideas of difference.

    Ok, Kade, now show how I'm racist because I've displayed "dislike" or "antagonism" toward Indians because they're Indians.

    I haven't. I simply noted that a lot of Indians on ND's reservations are living in poverty because of the system of government they're living under.

    That's not racist. But you'll keep saying it is, because you don't have any arguments to counter the point of my original column or any of the points made since.

  • Kade

    Rob…you are racist…..what other reason for descibing this "terrific" story? You enjoy race-baiting – then you cry innocence whenever someone points it out. Explain your pointed and obvious racism below:

    John Leo has a terrific story on the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom media blackout. You'll remember they're the white couple that was kidnapped and treated horribly before they were murdered. Of course the story didn't get national attention because the people arrested for the crime are black while the victims were white. It just doesn't match the media's template so they just aren't going to cover it.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    What is your point, Kade?

    I have no problems with Indians, their culture, their religion, their history, their race, etc.

    I have a major problem with people of any ethnic background that refuse to work, live off of the government, use drugs and alcohol to excess, and blame others for their problems.

    Now that may sound racist because certain racial groups have developed a culture where that behavior is far closer to the norm than an abhorration. I choose not to engage in these sort of behaviors and when I see individuals or collective groups doing it, I consider my own values, culture, and mores better than theirs. It is often called ethnocentrism to think that my moral beliefs against these sort of things are superior to those that accept and promote these activities, and you may perceive ethnocentrism as racism or bigottry. I am sorry that in your narrow definition, my views are considered racism simply because it happens I am white not red, yellow, brown or purple. I just happen to think that the American culture of hard work, integrity, dedication, education, etc., has bypassed a great many folks.

    But then again, perhaps it would be more fitting to have you defend the large numbers (not all and not a majority, but still large numbers) of Native Americans that engage in these behaviors at a rate higher than those of the rest of the population. Please explain why the demographic trends of poverty, unemployment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc., among Indians should be ignored or rather that in pointing it out and trying to change it we are case as racists, bigots or worse. Just wondering so that I can be more PC when I drive through the Rez and think to myself–"these folks are fine the way they are and I shouldn't notice the problems… or I should support further subsidies, but not because there are real problems on the Rez, but because Whites are the problem and we owe them". Please enlighten me what a good PC non-racist should think since you are the expert.

  • Seth Yantiss

    An assumption…[ ... ]…because of their race or ethnic background. Such practices can be intentional or unintentional.

    Good definition of Racism… did you have a quote that shows anyone talking about the inferiority of one race over another? Did you notice any wording anywhere that implied or directly stated that Caucasian or Native American people were in any way different from one another? Can you point to that post, please? Just anything… you know something like "Indians are [insert adjective here] but whites aren't." It shouldn't take you long to find something like that, since you claim Rob to be racist… Hey… why limit yourself to posts about Indians? Branch out… See if you can find one example of racism anywhere on this site. I'll bet $100 that you can't find one example from all 10 million posts of Rob being racist, and context matters.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Kade, you ignorant FUCK, that was written by The Whistler. You can figure this out by reading the "By The Whistler" line right below the title.

    Get back to us when you learn to read douchebag.

  • Kade

    Justin B.

    Please enlighten me what a good PC non-racist should think since you are the expert.

    I actually could enlighten you regarding such topics as ethnocentrism, race, culture, and other subjects topical to this area. I am a professional Anthropologist after all. Unfortunately, nothing I, or the Webster's Dictionary, can say to elucidate to you the plain facts that the writings of people like Rob Port, you, and others on this Blog are racist.

    I would be glad to send you some great textbooks that you can read if you would like to learn more about subjects such as racism, ethnocentricity, or race, but doubtless you lack the cranial capacity to comprehend such matter or to assimilate this data in a way that would help you realize your shortcomings as a member of the human race.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Rob…you are racist…..what other reason for descibing this "terrific" story?

    Maybe because I actually care about the situation on the reservations, and I want to spur change by making other people aware of it in vivid detail?

    Why does that have to be racist? Other than because if you can't define it as racist you must suddenly deal with the reality of the problems I highlighted?

  • John K

    Kade: Go find something better to do with your time. There are real racists and bigots out there, and Rob isn't one of them. Your dictionary definition of racism makes absolutely no sense in terms of the article you're commenting on.

    You are a very unpleasant person. Go dig up some shells, form up a nice tall shellmound, and sit on it.

    Saying people are poor and desperate because they are trained by their government to be poor and desperate is not racism. It may be ethnocentric (if you would be so kind to go to websters and find us an infallible definition of the term) but you use that article to libel Rob as a racist?

    btw, I believe that any culture that incentivizes failure more than my own culture does must be either evil or an incompetent governor. I don't care if that view is ethnocentric.

  • skh.pcola

    "professional Anthropologist" is telling…in a bad way. You social "sciences" practitioners have spent trillions of dollars and decades of nominal time (probably billions of man-hours) chasing unicorns and butterflies with mesh nets, trying to capture the Uptopia that motivates all assclowns like you are…the "everybody is equal and kind" world where competition is unnecessary. Word up, jackass: That dystopia is already here, and you minorities are the major factor of its existence.

    See, the primary problem that I have with "Indians" is that filthy, long-haired, useless, POS, leftard, white folks love to "find" some tenuous genetic connection to some supposed "Native American" ancestor (who themselves came here from elsewhere, regardless of what jackasses like Kade claim), and use that claim to ride the rails of the federal benefit gravy train, or, they could jus use it to dupe like-minded "Native American" retards into following their cult. Think of Ward Churchill for an example of a lily-white leftard duping real brown-skinned retards into vigorously defending the cracker-dood. This kind of crazy-talk is generally reserved for ad movies.

    "Indians" are about 100 years past any legitimate claim to any real damages. They, like the black people, have been hurt by Demoncrat policy, although their nominal annual returns have been high. Liberals have bought the minority vote for generations through welfare transfer payments, although race pimps like Kade prefer to yank wool over the eyes of those same minorities and tell them that conservatives hate them. Kade and other racist, fascist, prejudiced bigots can smooch my over-sized white asscheeks. "Anthropologist" indeed. Make up another fictitious, low-paid, fuzzy area of "science," jackass. I've beaten anthropology professors down with clue bats and come away the winner. Sucks to be on the losing end when the evaluation is objective, huh?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Cultures are nothing more than collections of ideas and practices.

    Not all ideas and practices are equal. Some will be better, some will be worse.

    Some cultures have practices that are uncivilized.

    The welfare culture is one of those that are uncivilized all around.

    The Indian reservations,
    along with the "Great Society" of black inner cities,
    along with the growing hordes of illegal Mexican invaders,
    along with the trailer parks of white trash all belong to the "Great Society" welfare experiment. All of them suffer the same crushing problems. All of them are greatly uncivilized.

    The Great Society has only acted to exacerbate the very conditions they were tasked to solve. This is not surprising because it is government. When it comes to social engineering such as the "war on poverty" and the "war on drugs", the feds only serve to create the exact opposite of their intent. The U.S. government is only really ever good at killing people. They don't have a good track record when it comes to making people live better lives.

    It is not bigotry to notice that government is a failure.

  • Jabberwocky

    Silent Genocide
    (©Ralph P. Reed, 1998)

    Genocide is variously defined as the systematic destruction by a government of a racial, religious, or ethnic group. The United Nations International Law Commission Report of 1949 further defines several acts constituting genocide: killing members of a group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of a group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. These are all aspects of genocide, which we normally see as overt genocide with the forcible movement, indoctrination, assimilation or killing of an entire people. The goal of genocide is to destroy a people or their culture so they no longer exist as a people. These are the things we see. Silent genocide has the same purpose, to destroy a people or their culture so they no longer exist as a people, but it acts covertly instead of overtly. Its purpose is still the same, however it's done so that few other than the people being destroyed know what is happening.

    Silent genocide is pervasive and acts in many ways with the ultimate goal being to cause people to become ashamed of their cultures so that they will cease to admit, even to themselves, that they are something other than one of the majority. With the loss of their culture, a people then no longer exists as a people, and the goal of silent genocide has been accomplished.

    To read the rest of the article follow the link http://www.iwchildren.org/silentgenocide.htm

  • Jabberwocky

    Bond hails civil rights era, decries prejudice, poverty

    "Today's apologists argue that discrimination against minorities is not a problem; society has to protect itself from discrimination against the majority instead," Bond said. "They argue that America is color blind, despite reams of evidence to the contrary, including a recent national survey which reported that the majority of whites believe blacks and Hispanics prefer welfare to work, are lazier, more prone to violence, less intelligent and less patriotic, all confusing poverty's symptoms with poverty's causes."

    Hmmmm…

    To Read The Rest Of The Article Follow The Link http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2007/mar/bond031507.html

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Explain your pointed and obvious racism below:

    Actually it's racism on the part of the national news gatekeepers.

    Silent genocide is pervasive and acts in many ways with the ultimate goal being to cause people to become ashamed of their cultures

    I take it you're calling living in poverty part of the Indian culture. And hoping those folks raise themselves out of poverty equals genocide.

    Why are you afraid to fix the problems on the reservation? Do you have a financial stake in keeping people down?

    This is really one of the most telling posts to point out that certain tribal leaders want to keep their people down.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    RACE-BAITING

    kade: The only real element of "race" in the story Rob pointed out, was how some "racial" crimes are under-reported, depending on the race and the agenda being driven. At the risk of being redundant, I could give a rat's crap what race you are or what color you are, it's your actions that define you and your character!
    As far as "race baiting", it seems to me that you and andy l. are the "master" baiters.

  • Mickey

    Kade,

    What kind of professional Anthropologist spends his time bickering on a blog, wasting his time when there are bones and pottery to be found? Sometimes, what is below the ground is more important than what is above the ground. After reading your posts it would appear that you have a fair amount of skeletons of your own to deal with.

    Tell me something Kade, why isn't there a single example of a successful ‘People's Paradise'? How is it that the best of intentioned revolutionaries was never able to produce a single, sustainable and functional society? Why is it that societies that espouse economic equality and predicated on well meaning ideals, either secular or religious, have proved to be abject failures?

    It sounds as if you believe that you have every right to design a society based on what you believe is in the best interest of that society. Do you also believe that an unwillingness to conform to your ideals, poses a threat, and quite possibly, a danger? You sound like a self anointed progressive Kade. Are you?

    How interesting that you have chosen to be a "professional Anthropologist". It is the progressives that want to present their own versions of history, religion and ideologies- versions that only serve to endorse their views and their hypocrisies. Disagree with them and the fierce and frenzied wrath of the ideologues descends. No room for anything but group think. PC group think. But hey, don't censor yourself Kade. Be who you are.

    In reality, the ‘progressives' are actually regressive. It is because of their single minded, lockstep thinking that we find ourselves in some of the messes that have engulfed us. You believe in the ‘my way or the highway' kind of thinking. Disagree with them and the world is coming to an end.

    As a "professional Anthropologist" you should know that Mankind evolved and advanced when societies came to tolerate those with different ideas and beliefs. We advanced because we allowed each of us to exercise the freedom and the opportunity to achieve whatever it was we were capable of, in any endeavor we chose. No one told us what to do, what to think or what to invent.

    Think about it.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Robert Perry

    Um, technically an "anthropologist" deals with living cultures, not dead ones. The ones digging up bones and pottery are called archeologists and paleontologists. (anthropologists do a little of this, but generally they need a bit of spoken language and action to do their work–think Margaret Mead being deceived by Pacific Islanders about sexual mores)

    Kade's well placed in his current job at the Turtle Mountain heritage center–sorry, I forget the full name, Kade.

    I would still like an answer, by the way, why it's OK for the tribe to describe horrific living conditions to obtain special status with HUD, but not for our gracious host to describe the same in a column. Are we to assume that the Tribal Council and others who prepared the HUD application are racists, too?

    Or, as I've suggested multiple times before, the real issue is not that Rob described what National Geographic and the Tribal Council have repeatedly described, but rather that Rob is suggesting that the "helpers" are actually a big part of the problem.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    With the loss of their culture, a people then no longer exists as a people, and the goal of silent genocide has been accomplished.

    Fucking genocidal Illegal Immigrants anyhow. Or genocidal Muslim immigrants to Europe that want to force conversion or death.

    Me thinks that your "silent genocide" is kinda minimizes actual genocide in places like Darfur, but hey, I guess it is mostly the same.

    You ignorant bastards want the Indians to practice their beliefs like they did centuries ago so that they can preserve their culture. Well clue for you–in the last century, we have gone to the moon, have handheld PDA's that have more processing power than the computers that got us to the moon, have telephones, Internet, satellites, enough food to support more than the world population, and the entire country has moved from an agricultural society to an Industrial Society. Anthropopogy Boy may want to explain the Industrial Revolution. It appears that the Reservations have not heard of it.

    Sorry that times change. White folks by and large lived in rural areas a century and a half ago, but they migrated to the cities. Indians didn't. That doesn't make our culture better than yours, but stop your bitching about how unfair it is that your culture has been bypassed by time, technology, and the rest of the world. If you want to live in poverty so that you can "keep it real" then stop blaming whitey.

  • Seth Yantiss

    Justin B.

    White folks by and large lived in rural areas a century and a half ago, but they migrated to the cities. Indians didn't. That doesn't make our culture better than yours,

    I don't see that. There are times that I yearn for wide open spaces. I find that the congestion of the city to be stifling. I think the mind dreams better in serene and peaceful surroundings. There are some positives to each lifestyle.

    There are problems that need to be overcome by each group too. To dense a populace can stifle creativity and create logistical problems for things like clean water and food. Imagine a week long power outage in NYC…

    In the rural areas there are different problems like how to purchase resources… Cell service, etc…

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Oh, trust me, I have a place in the mountains where I will probably be spending this weekend. It is just that jobs by and large do not exist or pay as well outside of the major metropolitan areas. And the more rural you become, the higher the poverty rates.

    I am not advocating for people to relocate to the cities. There are compelling reasons not to, but this is not necessarily about moving to NYC, but rather, the fact that people vote with their feet and when someone else convinces them that staying true to their roots and culture is more important than acting in informed self interest, those folks are doing them a disservice.

    I don't understand all this "cultural heritage" stuff. Cultural heritage doesn't put food on the table. And alcoholism and drug abuse as well as allowing so many members to live in squalor and filth isn't keeping with their heritage either. The Reservation systems have destroyed independence which I believe was the hallmark of Native culture and instead has replaced it with a longing for the good life (that none of the current tribe members ever knew) while drinking beer, huffing paint fumes, or sniffing lysol on their couch watching satellite TV.

    What exactly is left of the culture and how much of their culture is being destroyed intentionally or not by whites versus what is being destroyed unintentionally by the laziness and sloth of the lowest rungs of Indian Society and their message of dependence on the government's dime that now permeates the thinking of a once proud people and culture?

  • Seth Yantiss

    Justin B, I agree with the sins of sloth et cetera, but living out of poverty doesn't, necessarily, equate to success. I agree that "huffing paint fumes while watching TV" is not success… but living a modest life and raising self-reliant children is… to some, at least.

    My point is that Urban lifestyle, while generating more income, reduces other parts of life that may be equally important. Every life is an experiment. There are benefits to every lifestyle… including slugs. They serve as examples to the rest of us on how not to live.

    But to say that moving to the city and earning a big paycheck = success… I don't buy it. ;)

  • K Lunch

    Doreen Yellowbird's column made me laugh so hard! When she was talking about how into education they are because they're building two new schools, I almost peed my pants! Of course they're building two new schools, have you ever been in a reservation school after a year or two of use? They don't last very long.

  • Melissa

    Seth, I remember much frustration in school. I remember more frustration in college. I always knew I was different from the "smart ones" in book work. I am sure many more Native Americans can relate. Feeling dumb, ignorant, and not understood is not good for the self esteem. After all these years it was my own son who made it crystal clear for me. He was struggling with the same frustrations.. We spent many long hours doing homework to the point where we wanted to take the books and beat each other over the head. After two years of fighting with schools about putting him on meds we finally tried it.. For one year of his life, he was put on several differ kinds of meds because there was not change in his learning skills. Finally he pointed out to me… My boy said, "Mom! Listen to me please! I don't understand what you mean! Draw me a picture.. Show me with your hands.. I will get it." This is nature not nurture. He is doing much better with hands on learning, and without medication. He is a hunter, trapper, farmer, and anything to do with the land he excels in. When he is out hunting he will bring back what he went after.. Now with my other child, who excels in book work, you give her a gun and my fear is she will shoot her toe off… Some people don't realize we are different in that aspect. The outside world doesn't work with what they don't understand. My apologies to you if you don't think this has anything to do with your comment above. My point is Justin, the majority on our reservation comprehend learning differently. The majority of the schools around our area are finally realizing that with most Native American children. I am not blaming the "outside" world. It appears to me some Ignorant bastards have not figured out the difference between nature and nurture. We are improving in our schools with much effort. Our heritage, culture will prevail by this in the long run.. It just takes time. Hopefully others will get wind of this info too and look into it. Our children are our future.
    We don't need an anthropology study to tell us that.

  • Melissa

    Sorry about that Seth…. I mean Justin…

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    But to say that moving to the city and earning a big paycheck = success… I don't buy it.

    Agree 100%. But there are major advantages toward city living due to the fact that in our advancing economy, technology is all that makes American workers economically viable. Everything but high tech tools and trades will slowly creep overseas and if Americans lack access to these tools, the economy will bypass them. Rural areas are chronicly underserved with technology.

    the majority on our reservation comprehend learning differently. The majority of the schools around our area are finally realizing that with most Native American children. I am not blaming the "outside" world. It appears to me some Ignorant bastards have not figured out the difference between nature and nurture. We are improving in our schools with much effort. Our heritage, culture will prevail by this in the long run.. It just takes time. Hopefully others will get wind of this info too and look into it.

    Very true. In Psych classes they talk about "differential intelligence" and other modes of intelligence that are different from verbal linguistic and mathematical intelligence. It just happens that most schools only value these and unfortunately most vocations revolve around these more than others.

    It is important that we see real nature versus nurture differences. My issue is that the Rez provides little more than excuses in many respects when it comes to these issues. There are so many failures (and by that I mean addicts and unemployed folks) on the Rez and the system has produced a plethera of excuses for failure. It is too easy to justify failure to learn the skills needed to survive outside of the government handouts.

    A. You understand that regardless of inherent or environmental factors, your kids need to be educated
    -and-
    B. You are doing something about it.

    I feel for you because you are fighting an uphill battle in my mind. The biggest difficulty isn't overcoming white prejudice and bigottry and racism as some on this site claim. The biggest challenge is overcoming the fellow Indians that don't want your kids to succeed because it proves their own internal justifications for their own failures false. Indians are just as capable of being successful members of society, fighting off the problems of drugs and alcohol, and working hard as any white, black or Hispanic. But the Indian failures and the Tribal Governments need to justify why handouts continue to be necessary and why their reservations continue to suffer from these chronic problems.

    I want Indians to be successes and believe that every single human being has the qualities that enable that. I am a realist and believe that unfortunately demographics bear out that Indians are falling behind. I believe it is correctable. And finally, I believe that the folks on here making constant charges of "racism" towards me because I don't accept their excuses of "we are trying to destroy their culture" or "whites stole our land" or "whites are keeping us down because they want Indians to be subserviant" are the real problem. Indians need to wake up and realize that their real enemies are the folks on their reservations that bring drugs, poverty, and failure to their culture and are destroying their children in the process. I don't have all the answers, but the fact that in order to maintain your tribal roots and culture forces good hardworking Indian folks to live among failure druggy scum makes it damned difficult on you.

  • Seth Yantiss

    Melissa,

    Your not alone in your educational challenges. I do not and will not place my children in a government indoctrination center (eg. public school).

    My son had a learning disorder. It would take me a long time to explain it, but let me sum it up by saying that his brain (which works on clock cycles) was not running fast enough to process auditory input. He couldn't identify the difference between the sound "h" makes and the sound an "i" makes. His thalamus just ran too slowly. My wife and I (mostly her) were able to identify the problem rather early at 4 years old. He couldn't understand basic commands and would just stare at you when you told him to do something. He could hear the words, but couldn't decode the information.

    We bought a fairly expensive computer program that was designed to increase the clock speed of the thalamus (the part of the brain that task switches input devices for processing). Had we missed the signs and placed him in government schools, he'd have been labeled as ADD and prescribed some drug.

    You are not the only people facing difficulty learning in enclosed rooms. You're not the only one whose kids are thought of as "slow".

    My mother was/is dyslexic and left handed. When she went to school, the openly admonished her as "stupid" and slapped her wrist when she tried to write left handed.

  • Seth Yantiss

    Justin B.

    I don't have all the answers, but the fact that in order to maintain your tribal roots and culture forces good hardworking Indian folks to live among failure druggy scum makes it damned difficult on you.

    That just needed repeating.

  • nonya

    fuck you honkey peace of shit go screw your sister inbread

  • robert108

    Gotta get me a loaf of that "inbread". Yuk.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    These guys are too funny.

  • Creasy

    K Lunch-

    I am going to disagree with you here:

    When she was talking about how into education they are because they're building two new schools, I almost peed my pants! Of course they're building two new schools, have you ever been in a reservation school after a year or two of use? They don't last very long.

    I went to a Reservation school. It wasn't any worse off than the public schools I have attended. I have worked in, and visited Reservation schools that are 10 years, 15 years old. These schools were on par with public schools I have worked in.

    I haven't seen the schools that K Lunch has seen, however the adults in charge are to blame for the conditions of the schools.

    Yeah, there will always be students who write on walls or vandalize, but if the adults cannot control the students of course the school will suffer. Kids are kids, but the adults must have some control.

  • Misty

    I attended the high school almost 14 years ago that Doreen is talking about and it's in perfectly fine condition, it's just too small for the number of kids attending.

    Thanks for the assumption though K Lunch and I'm glad you were able to get a good laugh from her column. Laughing is great for the soul.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    screw your sister inbread

    I tried to screw my sister "in bread" but all I got was a yeast infection. Maybe I should have tried whole wheat instead of white inbread. Rye?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Melissa – Finally he pointed out to me… My boy said, "Mom! Listen to me please! I don't understand what you mean! Draw me a picture.. Show me with your hands.. I will get it." This is nature not nurture. He is doing much better with hands on learning, and without medication.

    Kids today are medicated beyond belief. Boys who act like boys are given medication so that they become zombies able to sit still in class. Kids who do better with hands on learning are being given medication. Some people learn with simple verbal instruction, others have to study hard, some do better with pictorial representations. The Western world has been medicating many who would do better with hands-on learning.

    It's scary that you had to fight with the schools about putting your son on medication. All the more scary when you realize that you're far from alone in that fight. The government schools are assuming a role that is not theirs and that's an outrage.

  • proud_2_b_me

    Mr Port. I am new to this and simply came on to read what was being said about my tribe. I am stunned that the "real" issue is lost among all the other BS, literally. Please let me give you my opinion as to why we, the people of Turtle Mts., are so upset with you. First and foremost, you mentioned no other reservation by name and we all know that there are plenty to mention in this state. I know I feel you did a great harm to our pride when you spoke so ugly about us and had the nerve to use our name. I believe you should have said, local reservations or reservations in ND. To single ours out and imply that we are simply nothing more than "dirty indians" was completely unjust. Now I know what you spoke of was in fact, to some extent, true. I see it everyday in family, friends and strangers. Drugs, yes are a problem on this reservation as it is on all reservations. . . AND DO NOT kid yourselves the problem exists in all cities of ND including Bismarck and Minot. I recall reading a newspaper article about a young 'white' mother who was sitting in her vehicle getting high while her infant child sat in his carseat for god only knows how many hours full of his own species. And this child was in only a diaper in the middle of November and this incident took place in Bismarck. As a matter of fact the news called her the "meth" mom.
    Yes, alcoholism is a problem for my people but it is also for yours. Poverty is a huge problem not only in Belcourt but for ALL of Rolette county due to not enough employment opportunities. Again I have seen some who do not work but rather live off the government, which by the way is NOT sufficient amount of money for any family! But at the same time I seen that problem in Bismarck ( I grew up there and until recently lived there) I have seen all these problems you mentioned about us also in "your people". So I ask you, why did you not look at the poverty, drug, alcohol problems as a whole and instead chose to single out my people? Do you believe that the problem does not exist in your towm? Well it does, and yes it is a problem and something should be done about it but pointing fingers and blaming it all on one people is NOT the answer.
    Again I understand you have your right to your opinion Mr Port and I respect you for openly speaking it; however I feel you owe my people an apology and next time you feel the need to jump on those issues I truely hope you look in your own backyard and keep your nose out of ours. We, as a people, are doing what we can about our problems what are you doing about yours. We choose to address these issues everyday, when is the last time your people stood together and addressed anything?
    I also want to make it very clear that we chose to ban you from our reservation to show purpose. You literally snuck in here and walked out with a one sided opinion. If you had come to our tribal people and explained to them that you were here interested in these issues, we would have gladly accomadated you but at the same time we would have requested that you give us the opportunity to show what we are doing about these problems. Denying us that opportunity is the REAL reason so many are upset with you. We are not a people of denial, we know we have these problems and we are doing more than your social welfare or government does.
    Remember, we did not ask to be placed on these reservations with so little and poor resources. But here we are and we are doing what we can with what little we have.
    I came back to help my people like so many others have. I came back believing my people were 'wrong' about racism in North Dakota but now, thanks to Mr Port and this site, I see it is still alive and strong. I am saddened by all you who have chosen to write such horrible things, I really believed that North Dakotans were above all that and yet here you all are acting like its still the early 1900s. Some of you need to wake up and realize, in North Dakota, my people are not the minorities, you are. There are far more of my people in this small state than you may want to believe and we contribute to the prosperity of this state just as much as all of you, if not more.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    First and foremost, you mentioned no other reservation by name

    Hardly surprising, since he did not set out to do an article on the reservation, he posted his observations of the one (and only) rez he visited. It would have been hypocritical for him to have inferred anything about any other reservation without having been there. If that is your "First and foremost" point, then you have no basis for complaint.
    If you chose to see racism where none exists, that's your prerogative. If you choose to believe that the moon is made of green cheese, we can't help you there, either!

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    Now I know what you spoke of was in fact, to some
    extent, true. I see it everyday in family, friends and strangers.

    I also want to make it very clear that we chose to ban you from our reservation to show purpose. You literally snuck in here and walked out with a one sided opinion. If you had come to our tribal people and explained to them that you were here interested in these issues, we would have gladly accomadated you but at the same time we would have requested that you give us the opportunity to show what we are doing about these problems. Denying us that opportunity is the REAL reason so many are upset with you.

    You told the truth, but snuck in to make observations of the truth and didn't give the tribal leaders the chance to do a dog and pony show of what they are doing to change it, so to prevent you from ever telling the truth about what you see again, they are going to ban you.

    Now I do agree with one thing:

    First and foremost, you mentioned no other reservation by name and we all know that there are plenty to mention in this state. I know I feel you did a great harm to our pride when you spoke so ugly about us and had the nerve to use our name. I believe you should have said, local reservations or reservations in ND.

    Not that I agree that you should not have used their name or used specifics to describe the truth about what you saw, but rather that you could have driven to any Rez in the state and seen the same thing–or any Rez in the country and seen the same thing because it is the same anywhere. It just happens that you mentioned one tribe by name when in fact if you went to any other Rez, you could have used their tribe.

    Again, what did Rob do wrong by making honest observations? The things he described are facts and no one is disputing the facts, just that he could have been a little nicer or painted a different picture because it hurt folk's feelings.

  • Seth Yantiss

    Proud said:

    AND DO NOT kid yourselves the problem exists in all cities of ND including Bismarck and Minot.

    Sure… it just, statistically, worse on the reservations…

    What's your point?

    You literally snuck in here and walked out with a one sided opinion.

    Wow… you accuse Rob of not sugar coating the truth, but you'll bend it? Rob neither sneaked in nor walked out of your precious reservation.

    Why do you want to hide the indigent on your reservation? Are you earning a living by defending the people who live as Rob described?

    If you have cancer, does it go away if you hide it?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    proud_2_b_me, Thank you for coming here and hopefully answer some of the questions that have been asked.
    I do have this question as of right now. You stated:

    and yet here you all are acting like its still the early 1900s.

    First, please do not refer to me as being racist. You don nott know that and therefore should not say it.
    Second, your people have based everything they've said on what happened hundreds of years ago.
    Possibly, everyone should wake up and realize everyone must live the present to survive the future

  • http://Tifosi1F1.blogspot.com/ Chris Brownell

    I think this statement sums up exactly what is going on here, "I feel you did a great harm to our pride when you spoke so ugly about us and had the nerve to use our name."

    Specifically "I feel you did a great harm to our pride"

    That is what this is about. Hurt feelings.

    The point of the article was not to point out the methamphetamine problem in North Dakota, alcoholism going on at Minot Air Force Base; it WAS about a specific experience and the opinion surrounding it.

    Note that neither the author of that post, "Proud 2 Be Me" nor trolls like Andy think it a bad thing that the Tribe government misused its power to limit the speech of a person with a dissenting opinion. It is ok that their government used its power to keep its members from having their feelings hurt. I think that fact says a great deal in itself.

    The author and trolls like Andy think they are OWED an apology for having their feelings hurt. That would be like me demanding the New York Times editorial board apologize every time they denigrate Christians and Christianity.

    Is limiting free speech going to solve anything or just make it easier to do the next time your feelings are hurt?

    Does pointing to someone else's amoral or illegal behavior somehow excuse your amoral or illegal behavior? Of course it doesn't.

    C.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    What you have to realize is that certain parties are willing to create outrage on the reservation in order to gain political power (and the salaries that go along with it).

    So they find an innocuous article and act all kind of huffy about the matter. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually visited the website and attempted to create some kind of backlash against them so they could use that to fan up the flames of the situation. They'd do that by making all kinds of baseless insults, racist comments and threat hoping that someone will respond with a "well you goll-darned Norwegians are the problem."

    Since they haven't been able to get that they've resorted to complaining about not showing the whole side. Of course that's a specious argument but that never stopped a demagogue.

    Think of an American Indian Al Sharpton wannabe.

    Really nothing's happening here except some fools are jockeying around to better themselves in the politics of the tribe. Don't think that these demagogues won't be dropping in now and then to fan up the flames.

    Of course the demagogues' biggest source of power is the victims who are stuck in poverty because of the policies of the demagogue. That's why things never get better for the poor people because the demagogues would be out of a job.

  • Andy l

    Chris, this is more than about pride. The issue is ethnocentric racism, forced acculturation, forced assimilation. Stupidity on the part of all the ethnocentrists at this site.

  • http://www.ski-blog.com/ sayanything-24

    The issue is ethnocentric racism, forced acculturation, forced assimilation. Stupidity on the part of all the ethnocentrists at this site.

    All cutures are not equal. For instance, those that produce folks that cannot or won'r work and live in poverty with high rates of drug and alcohol abuse are not equal to those that don't. Ethnocentrism is the misguided belief that my culture is better than yours, but in this case, we are not talking about your religion or how you name your babies or what food you eat. We are talking about the fact that reservations are filled with corruption and the Indian culture is filled with alcohol abuse, poverty, crime, and unemployment.

    We don't want to change your religion or culture or dress or language. Just your dependence on government and the negative aspects of your society. Your failure to acknowledge these problems and rely on the tired charges of ethnocentrism and racism while your tribal leaders write their grant applications to suck at the tit of big government is disgusting. Your culture has huge problems and we have continued to allow it to occur in isolation at the hands of your soveriegn governments for long enough. As soon as we point it out though, you want to call us ethnocentric. Please, then, defend the alcohol abuse, poverty, drugs, crime, unemployment, etc., of your culture. Explain why these cultural aspects should be ignored by us trying to be culturally sensitive and respect other aspects.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Stupidity on the part of all the ethnocentrists at this site.

    Like those who troll by and judge others primarily by their race (1/3, 2/5, 10,64, etc.) If the moccasin fits…

  • cherylp

    I just finished reading through all 88 comments and I have come to the conclusion that the most any of you can do is point out the problems on the reservation, swear at each other, and call each other names. I thought that this site would not only bring enlightenment to these problems, but also offer actual suggestions or a plan on how to fix these problems. People from this reservation or any reservation know of all of these problems, but how do we get them fixed?

    Stop the name calling and start throwing out feasible suggestions!!

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