Sandy Hook trutherism?

“I don’t know what to do,” sighed Gene Rosen. “I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid’?” Someone posted a photo of his house online. There have been phony Google+ and YouTube accounts created in his name, messages on white supremacist message boards ridiculing the “emotional Jewish guy,” and dozens of blog posts and videos “exposing” him as a fraud. One email purporting to be a business inquiry taunted: “How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” he said. So much so that a friend shields him from most of it by doing daily sweeps of the web so Rosen doesn’t have to. His wife is worried for their safety. He’s logged every email and every call, and consulted with a retired state police officer, who took the complaint seriously but said police probably can’t do anything at the moment, and he plans to do the same with the FBI.

What did Rosen do to deserve this? One month ago, he found six little children and a bus driver at the end of the driveway of his home in Newtown, Connecticut. “We can’t go back to school,” one little boy told Rosen. “Our teacher is dead.” He brought them inside and gave them food and juice and toys. He called their parents. He sat with them and listened to their shocked accounts of what had happened just down the street inside Sandy Hook Elementary, close enough that Rosen heard the gunshots.

In the hours and days that followed, Rosen did a lot of media interviews. “I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children, and it kind of helped me work through this,” he told Salon in an interview. “I guess I kind of opened myself up to this.”

The “this” in question is becoming a prime target of the burgeoning Sandy Hook Truther movement, which — like its precursor that denied the veracity of the 9/11 terror attacks — alleges that the entire shooting was a hoax of some kind. There were conspiracy theories surrounding the shooting from day one, but the movement has exploded into public view the past two weeks, and a Google Tends search suggests it’s just now picking up steam. It’s also beginning to earn the backing of presumably credible sources like a professor and a reporter.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • $8194357

    The media sure sent out alot of false info tho huh.
    Misinformation about the shooters mother being employed at the school
    and the lady interviewed said she new the mother and boy welll as the mother was a school employee ect…ect..ect..
    I watched several of the videos and they raise some very good questions from early reports on weapons, number of shooters and “location” of the ar and such…
    Worth a look IMO rather than the white wash agenda driven propaganda MSM uses…

    • borborygmi

      could you point out what part was the hoax.

      • $8194357

        I am pointing out inconsitencies and discrepencies
        oh liberal supremicist.
        The AR was in the trunk,
        The AR taken out of the trunk at night way after the shooting.
        Three or four pistols used…
        Multiple shooters chased down in the surrounding area….
        The FEMA enactment going on just a few miles away the day before being videoed with the basic same scenario.
        Ya know…Multiple shooters being chased down and aprehended….

        Why did the enactment scenarios get broadcast as the real deal but turn out to be a lone gun man who used the AR exculsivly as media agenda driven version of the gospel…

        Just a “few” things that don’t add up….
        Like the father of one of the victims posting a fund in his daughters memory several days before she was murdered kind of talk…

        Media isn’t interested and neither are the agenda driven
        ideologs such as your self………

        • borborygmi

          did kids die?

          • two_amber_lamps

            Thanks to your “Gun free zone” silly fallacies yes.

          • $8194357

            Yes…
            But are you sure who all was involved gurgle…
            A lone gunman on prescription drugs acted alone?
            I will keep an open mind about it and not trust the
            government or media to tell me anything happened
            that didn’t line up with the officle agenda…

          • borborygmi

            So who were the collaborators if this wasn’t a lone gunman on prescription drugs. WHo has benefitted the most. Prove that I am wrong.

          • $8194357

            Liberal tactic learned from lucifer, huh gurgle..
            Make the accusation and then challenge the
            untolerated conservitive to prove it wrong….
            Been working since satan gave it to the cultural maxists with
            their critical therory agenda ya love so much apoligist….
            Dupe…or useful fool tool idiot…Pick one…
            After all its what the left does right…
            Re-brand and play word games…

          • borborygmi

            Amazing how easy it is to start a conspiracy rumor isn’t it. Yet you fall for it. I am telling you paranoia is in your future.

          • $8194357

            Amazing how revisonist educated ideolog
            liberals have no knowlege of how propaganda
            and useful idiots indoctrinations are used as
            pre cursers for the agenda before all of the
            “big” armed conflicts”
            around the globe and thru out history…

            Waggin the tail and waggin the dog…gurgle apoligist..
            Non revisionist history…Read and learn…Grasshopper..

          • borborygmi

            Read what. I have gone to your links and they are all conspiracy theorist web sites. THey have an agenda and you have sucked up to it like a deer tick in spring. ITs the Truth, Its the truth, its the truth….
            Look if the Jack Booted thugs are coming to get you what is the armed forces going to do?

          • $8194357

            Did ya ever know anything that wasn’t liberal B/S, gurgle?
            Have you always just been the lemming who trusts the government?
            That is the 17 trillion dollar question huh…
            Forigners hold the debt therefor the title to the coprerate federal government, huh..
            Who will the military back when outside internationalists have control of the government and the CIC chair?
            Will foriegn armies be involved by UN edict?
            Will Russian and China join the muslim brotherhood goons already entrenched in DC? Just a few points to ponder on who will quell the Constitutionalist rebelion…
            They have asked recruits for decades if they will fire upon
            American citizens if the CIC orders it…
            Funny how easily you forget the Holder Injustice dept and DHS
            switching gears from islamic terroism to domestic Constitutionalists , ex military, NRA, and states rights advocates huh…And don’t forget those crazy Constitutionalists who keep bringing up the Democrats ties to the communist agendas…quiet a major shift in federal focus and policy huh apoligist..
            Who is the enemy of America and the Constitution?
            Not conservitives or Christians….But all blame and suspician has been sent our way for quite some time now, huh..

          • borborygmi

            They have asked recruits for decades if they will fire upon
            American citizens if the CIC orders it. Verification on this statement. Military code/indoctrination?

          • $8194357

            Found it awhile back…
            Look for yourself lap dog appoligist…

          • $8194357

            The one I read long ago was from American military
            standpoint only.

            Here is one questionair about co-op missions with
            UN Blue beanies on American soil..

            (Ask yourself why in 1993 they were looking to find US soldiers willing to fire on Americans with UN soilders confiscating guns on American soil).

            Pay attention to question #46 apoligist…
            and remember this was back in 1993…Gun confiscation from DC.
            International forces coming here to disarm Americans…

            WHERE IS THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION?

            http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/UN29palms.htm

            Lame a$$ won’t do his own homework
            propaganda pablum puker.

          • borborygmi

            You are living breathing proof of how propaganda and indoctrination works. If ‘your side’ wins in the big armed conflicts which your side is trying to incite, who will be in power? Who will be your leader? Have you ever thought about that or asked anyone about that. How do you know they aren’t using you as an unwitting pawn so they can be king……

          • $8194357

            Alinsky 101..
            At least history backs me gurgle..
            Your side uses false cause to push statist tyrany
            and ideology.

          • borborygmi

            Same tactic with the same amount of plausibility as your conspiracy.

          • $8194357

            Alinsky 101 gurgle..
            The leftist turn the table, ya know…
            ACCUSE the target of what in fact you are doing yourself…
            The New Left Democrat way of doing buisness since the 60’s.

          • $8194357

            Alinsky 101 pattern used by leftist for decades, huh.

          • borborygmi

            so instead you will suck up something from the Internet which meets your view and agenda and proffer it as truth. How does that ad go. You can’t lie on the Internet. Where did you here that? ON the Internet. You claim to keep an open mind but I see a lemming that believes anything anti-gov’t .

          • $8194357

            Stay healthy lemming..
            Eat the pablum coming from the
            MSM propaganda and stay healthy.

        • borborygmi

          If kids died who killed them.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Your leftist anti-gun agenda killed them since it forbade any staff member from carrying a firearm which may have been used to put an end to the massacre or give the teachers time to save some of those children.

          • borborygmi

            so you are at odds with the Truthers as they feel it was staged or it was actually gov’t agents. Evidence suggests the NRA and Gun and Ammo Manufacturers are behind it and all mass shootings. Follow the money trail. Who’s membership increased, who’s product is being sold (and from accts at an inflated price), who is actually benefitting making gobs of cash? Through the increased hysteria, you are seeing states or legislators proposing pro gun laws. I wouldn’t doubt that some of the Founding Fathers had interests in Arms manufacturers.

          • $8194357

            ( I wouldn’t doubt that some of the Founding Fathers had interests in Arms manufacturers)
            Typical leftist dribble…
            But I’m the head case fart bubble?

          • borborygmi

            Who benefits from the 2nd Amendment?

          • $8194357

            The American patriots…
            Sheople like yourself have given up
            on Constitntuinal America and bought
            the revisionist statist agenda whole, gurgle..

          • borborygmi

            You forgot gun and ammo manufacturers also benefit and in Todays world the NRA.

          • $8194357

            Who benifited from histories gun confiscations, gurgle?
            Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot,Mao, Castro, the islamic caliphates…ect….ect..
            Tyrany, huh…

          • $8194357

            The politics of mass crisis used for military intervention…
            This “therory” has been floating around DC for quite some time..

            Worked well for Barrys cousin Odinga in Kenya…..
            Dry run for hope and change.

            Read and learn fart bubble..Unless the conspoiracy therory bug
            might get ya..NWO looking into using mass hsyteria and crisis for

            Constitutional suspension…Go figure, huh..First Bush..Clinton..ect..ect
            Trialateralist/Bilderberg NWO members one and all..Been around for a spell..Both parties involved..ect..ect..ect..

            http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=FinalWarning&C=9.3

          • two_amber_lamps

            I’m at odds with the words you try to stick into others mouths… ever hear of a strawman argument?

            Stick to what’s written henceforth, eh Gurgle?

          • $8194357

            Gurgle is as gurgle does…
            Lemming extrodinair….
            Anything right of Castro is suspect
            to the leftist diet of lies and deceptions.

          • borborygmi

            I believe I am sticking with what is written. You believe that it was a single killer who because of misguided gov’t or authoritative policy which cause a lack of arms in the school house settings allowed a mentally disturbed young man with his mothers LEGAL weapons busted in and shot those children… I agree even with armed guards I doubt if you can stop a mentally disturbed individual from busting in to a school and shooting someone. Even with armed teachers the mentally disturbed individual will still go in to exact some sort of sick revenge and make a name for himself and if he gets killed he gets killed. Suicide/murder for notorieties sake? WE are a gun culture and all we can do is react and come up with realistic ways to deal with it. You may get less body count with armed teachers but you will still get mass shootings. As an NRA member said put in armed guards someone will sit a hundred yards away and snipe. Guns exist and will always exist. IMO. Now do you agree with this or don’t you?
            If you want to go down the conspiracy road, I set up a scenario that makes just as much sense as the Gov’t is coming to get me gang and one that has been around since the beginning of monetary systems GREED>

          • $8194357

            Thats what I am saying gurgle…
            Which “officle version” are we to believe?
            Funny how DC propaganda does that huh.
            Its called….Manufacturing a narritive and making
            the news line up with it….
            Propaganda fool tool….Propaganda…..
            Steering the ship of state ever leftward tyranist/facist…
            Takes time to steer/move a big ship huh…
            They been at it for over 100 years gurgle…

          • $8194357

            According to you leftist apoligists the AR did it…

        • borborygmi

          You give me too much credit as I have no agenda.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh yes… the bolshevik has no agenda…..

            BWAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!

          • $8194357

            If “you” have no agenda that makes you a first class useful idiot for faithfully backing the leftist tyranical ideologies, huh.

    • borborygmi

      What in your opinion is the Agenda being supported by the propaganda.

      • $8194357

        Like all tyranist leftist ideologies that have gone before
        oh blind apoligist.
        Central planning government enslavement of the citizenry…
        Disarm them, get them used to being submissive and giving up freedoms and liberties for bogus government “safety nets” and then social enginer the coming genicide of the dissentors of the facist systems…
        Ever read “any” history?

        • borborygmi

          why not start now with the more out spoken dissentors. Surely a gov’t this insidious could make you disappear or is letting you portray yourself as a crackpot is part of their plan? To perpetrate this genocide you would need the control of the armed forces or do you see civil war coming out of this.

          • $8194357

            And the charector assasinations of minorities/women
            conservitives hasn’t already done that gurgle?
            You claim the ammo manufacturers and evil NRA
            are colluding to drive up sales and I am the crackpot?

            Standard opurational proceedure of proven history is
            it is those in power in the government who do what your
            accusing private citizens of comrade….

            Fast and Furious
            Arming the muslim brotherhood…
            Waggin the middle east agenda.

            Just the little things needed to be done for the
            elitist global good, huh.

          • borborygmi

            The power behind the man has always been the rich and powerful. Again who benefitted the most from this? Who made the $.

          • $8194357

            You tell me…
            LBJ made alot of cash from armaments sold to keep the viet nam
            war going after JFK was ‘disposed of’…
            Lady Bird made quite a nice bundle as well when her shares in the officle telophone company used for miltary over seas calls were suddenlly granted the exclusive government contract as well…
            You seem to know the drill on the right…
            Evil Cheney/Haliburton and all..
            Ever look into the Democrats who “prosper from war”?
            Soros as well makes bou cou bucks from DC’s decisions
            on when and where to bomb..

          • borborygmi

            I assume you believe what you wrote about LBJ etc thus you are agreeing it was the NRA, THe arms and ammo industry are behind Sandy Hook

          • $8194357

            Your a$$umtions are noted once again gurgle..
            Manufacturing the leftist party line narritive never grows old for the dedicated apologist, huh.

      • $8194357

        THE AGENDA….

        Take ten minutes out of your busy leftist life
        and learn a little non revisionist truth about
        your beloved Democratic platform and ideology, gurgle.

        Do the home work now, Hear?

        The breeding ground of the New Left Communist….
        Political Correct intolerance of other view points than
        the leftist quest for utopian false enlightenment.

        Acadamia is full of false enlightenement, intolerance of opposing
        tradidtional conservitive view points and self importance…
        And it became the Democratic platform for “Change”.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2DdJLycPM

  • $34543430

    These conspiracy theories are fueled by the fact that TV news reporters will air ANYTHING they can find when something like Sandy Hook or the Aurora shooting happens. Even if that includes assumptions made from a chaotic moment, or interviewing clueless people.

  • Toni

    What is the bus driver’s name? Has any journalist tried to interview this person?

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