Harry Reid Blames Cali Fires On, You Guessed It, Global Warming

The Whistler • October 24, 2007

. . . and then he denies he said it, mere moments later.

First he said this:

As you know, one reason that we have the fires burning in Southern California is global warming. One reason the Colorado Basin is going dry is because of global warming.

Then this, several questions later:

Question: Senator, on the California fires, you said that the reason the fires are burning in California is global warming?

Reid: No. Here’s what I – I didn’t say the reason the fires were burning in Southern California was global warming…

Listed to the Q & A with reporters and see for yourself if Harry Reid has not lost his mind.

(h/t Duane Patterson)

Crossposted from Ken McCracken

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http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

Underground bunkers I tell ya… the only way, I say!

REMINDER: Regularly water and mow your house accordingly.
carrick

As I understand it, most homes that are lost are from flying embers setting the roof on fire. If you replaced highly inflammable asphalt shingles with clay tiles, you’d probably have a major reduction in lost homes…
http://www.wethepeopleforum.com/forum/forums.asp golfmann

The liberals are reaping what they have sown.

That includes Harry…
Mickey

kbiel

These fires are natural. You don’t stop them. You try and control them.

And you’re wrong about concrete block filled with concrete. It is very fire safe. Look at the pictures of the devastation from this fire. Many stucco homes were left untouched when the neighbors home, some only yards away, were burnt to the ground. They didn’t vaporize, they burned.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

They should rebuild the homes from concrete block with a stucco finish and tile roofs. Use a little exposed wood as possible.

When I lived in the foothills of central California, fire danger was always a reality, yet many homeowner associations, wanting to preserve the “look” of their community, insisted that homes be roofed with wood shakes and many with wood shake facades.
http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

Oh geez.

Remind me to never get in a battle of wits with a blonde ever again.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Sparkie: Glad to see they’ve given you your crayons back! See? Politeness to the night nurses pays!
carrick

2Hotel9:

they are genus microdipodops, and that no, the Federal Wildlife morons will not admit they exist east of Nevada

Well they aren’t native to those regions, that’s for sure. The specialization’s that these critters have are specific adaptations for arid climates.

However, there’s no reason that once accidentally released in any area in this country, that they wouldn’t flourish. They might even have some advantages over native species…. It wouldn’t be the first time an invader from the desert steppes slaughtered the inhabitants of the verdant fields and pastures living below them. Desert life makes you tough. “Mu’addib” in deed.
kbiel

Ken,

I’m not going to defend Reid’s tying of the fires to global warming, but let’s be honest about this. Reid (stupidly) said that global warming was one of the causes. The reporter played the classic “when did you stop beating your wife” game, by saying Reid stated the global warming was the reason.

I think the most interesting aspect of this story is that Reid was subjected to treatment usually reserved for Republicans and conservatives.
kbiel

And how would that stop wild fires? Besides, that’s not going to save a house surrounded by an inferno. Both concrete and steel become brittle after exposure to fires like this one. So, even if the house doesn’t seem to burn up, the contents inside will suffer from the heat exposure and the house will have to torn down and rebuilt afterward anyway.
2Hotel9

Flamer, the environazis put an end to controlled burn and to clearing of brush, on the grounds of habitat protection for several inconsequential species of rodents and insects. The Kangaroo Mouse being one, a rodent that they claim is in danger. Well, I live in Pennsylvania, and our cats routinely catch and kill Kangaroo Mice. According to the environazis there are no Kangaroo mice west of Nevada. And yet we allow these morons to control our country. Sweet bleeding Jesus.
Mickey

They should rebuild the homes from concrete block with a stucco finish and tile roofs. Use a little exposed wood as possible.
http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

I see what you are saying Kbiel, but, of all the causes of the fires, which one did Reid focus on?

Global warming.

One has to assume that by highlighting that cause to the exclusion of all others, he thinks it is the primary cause. If he didn’t want it to be seen as the primary cause, he should have mentioned something else.

I don’t think the characterization of him as instantly flip-flopping on this is at all unfair.
http://manoffireandlight.blog.co.uk/ ManofFireandLight

Most of the native fauna has adapted to period burning, many of them require burning to procreate. It is the prevention of fires that is the issue, not the fires themselves. The forestry service needs to implement a controlled burning program, which would ultimately reduce the frequency of such large scale ‘disasters’.
kbiel

Oh, I have no doubt that Reid threw that out there on purpose and then scrambled back when he realized how the reporters reacted. He probably wanted to create a meme without having his named attached to it.
2Hotel9

Pretty good! Yes, they are. I took 3 specimens to the Agricultural Studies Office at Penn State, State College, PA, where we take wheat, corn and other crop samples, and the professor in charge of animal and wildlife studies confirmed that, indeed, they are genus microdipodops, and that no, the Federal Wildlife morons will not admit they exist east of Nevada.
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

You have miles and miles of nothing but steep canyons covered with kindling.

Kindling that you’re not allowed to clear out because of environment laws.

The liberals are reaping what they have sown.
Bill Mitchell

Yep,

The temperature on Earth went up 3/4 of a degree celsius in the last 100 years and now the trees are bursting into flames.

Who here has been to Southern California? Ok, if you haven’t, let me describe it for you.

What New Orleans was to flooding, Southern California is to fire. You have miles and miles of nothing but steep canyons covered with kindling. Oh yeah, and a few thousand multi-million dollar homes.

Gee, I built my house on the wood-pile in hell and it burnt down, poor me. I built my house 20 feet below sea level next to the ocean and a hurrican flooded it. Damn that George Bush!
2Hotel9

50 years ago the Forestry Service told the state of California that all the non-native plant species being imported into SoCal were going to make the wildfire problem worse. Not create it. Make it worse. SoCal already had a wildfire “problem”, it is a component of the semi-arid climate, and the mass introduction of plant species that die off because of lack of rain has egregiously aggravated the “problem”. Look at the historical accounts of early settlers in the region. Fires were a yearly event, and people did not put trees and plants close to their homes and other structures.

But hey, this is the liberal elite stronghold! They are far more intelligent than any stupid Forestry Service FireFighters. Plant some more Arborvitae and soft stem perennials. THAT will make the fires go away. Morons.
kbiel

Reid, in my opinion, is simply and completley wrong.

Um, yeah. Did you actually read my comment? Let me repeat, “I’m not [defending] Reid’s tying of the fires to global warming.” The point I was trying to make is that Reid wasn’t denying what he said, he was denying the reporter’s misrepresentation of what he said. That doesn’t make what Reid said correct.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

Where is that located, exactly?

uh duh? Underground silly
sheesh… and they call blondes dumb!

;-P

Multimillionaire jeweler Michael Hill, New Zealand. He has no idea what the home will sell for, but concedes the construction cost – excluding ground – won’t be cheap. A project manager put it at a ballpark $2 million just to build it.
http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

Anna, that is my dream home.

Where is that located, exactly?
carrick

2Hotel9 has nailed this.

There are two major contributers (that I am aware of) that exacerbate the tinderbox problem.

The first is the highly invasive eucalyptus tree, imported from Australia, that is extremely flammable. The second is the loss of up to 50% of native aspen in that region, primarily the consequence of foreign pathogens and a too-restrictive fire control that has allowed the accumulation of tree litter on the forrest floor (litter provides a home for pests that then attack the trees)…..

kbiel:

m not going to defend Reid’s tying of the fires to global warming, but let’s be honest about this. Reid (stupidly) said that global warming was one of the causes.

Other than human generated causes, such as accumulation of fire sources (see above) and stupid development policies that allow the building of houses in the middle of a tender box, the main natural cause is the Santa Ana winds. This is a local meteorological phenomenon (driven by terrain and temperature differences due to elevation differences), and as such is entirely unrelated to global climate changes.

Reid, in my opinion, is simply and completley wrong.
http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

Seriously.
Johnny Shouts

Wasn’t there a doctor in the house?
carrick

Kbiel, I did read your comment, but just didn’t interpret it the way you meant it to be interpreted. Sorry.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

hotel. whatever your cats are killing prob aint kangaroo mice. did they look like this?:

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