Group Wants Concealed Carry At Public Gatherings And On College Campuses

• January 22, 2009

A reader calls my attention to House Bill 1348, which would exempt holders of concealed carry licenses from the ban on carrying firearms at public gatherings in North Dakota. This would allow concealed carry in parks, churches, on campus and at political rallies.
There would remain a ban, however, on concealed carry while on K-12 school property which is something I believe is mandated by federal law through our education funding. Meaning we, as a state, cannot end the ban on concealed carry on K-12 school grounds without losing our federal education funding.
Just another way in which taking federal money loses us our local control.
But back to HB1348, I think this is a good idea. Far too often I think we lose sight of the fact that keeping and bearing arms in this country is a right, not just some weird fetish gun enthusiasts like to engage in (which is no doubt how the anti-gun people see it). Before that right is curtailed we must have good reason, and I really don’t see what good reasons there are for denying properly-licensed students from carrying their guns on campus.
And indeed, there are a lot of good reasons to allow it such as the tragic campus shootings we’ve seen in recent years. Were more students armed at the time of those shootings the outcomes, while still troubling, probably wouldn’t have been as tragic.
This bill is currently being sponsored by Republicans Duane DeKrey, Chuck Damschen, Gerry Uglem, Robin Weisz, Stanley Lyson and Terry Wanzek. They should be supported in their efforts to pass this, and all North Dakotans should contact their specific representation in the state legislature and ask them to support this bill as well.

Tags: Domestic Issues, North Dakota News, Politics

http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

I believe it is a good law.
imagine

I am concealed and have often wondered why certain things were banned…parks and churches? why the ban? I guess I understand the security needs of political rallies..

The one I can’t buy into is carrying on school grounds. Believe it or not, not all of us that are concealed are 100% responsible and a loaded weapon left in a coat or purse around children is an extremely bad idea. I don’t leave loaded weapons around my house, and as a parent I would not feel comfortable with guns at my childs school.
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Schools have been attacked, both overseas and the USA.

If there is any place where concealed carry is called for it is schools.

Schools have been selected, whether by Palestinian terrorists, Islamic Fundamentalists (Beslan) kids drugged out on Ritalin or Prozac (Columbine et al), Racists (Buford Furrow) or wingnuts with a grudge (VA-Tech) because those places are gun-free target rich environments — and have been made killing grounds by fools who refuse to learn over the cooling bodies of multiple victims.

So please spare us the criminal stupidity of saying outlawing guns in schools is going to save any lives. We have a long list of dead children to show that this is a filthy lie.

The Israelis for one, made a specific effort to arm their teachers and have armed volunteers watch over their children. Strangely enough, the attacks stopped when the terrorists found that they were just ending up dead without the body counts of Jewish children they’d been praying to Allah for.
shaun fischer

Today in Houston a women went to her place of work with a hunting bow and shot a coworker in the chest.As she was hooking up another arrow , two coworkers who have concealed handguns and permits opened up on her.She was wounded and ran off further into the building.Houston police showed up and found her hiding in a cubicle.when confronted she took aim at the 23 yr vetern and he put a cap in her.She is alive and so is the victim as of this morning.I wonder if I have a concealed permit but the church, school,or park won’t allow me to carry,If I’m killed by a derranged maniac ,could I sue the company, city, church ect.My favorite quote by Samuel Colt…”You don’t need a gun…until you REALY NEED a gun!
2Hotel9

Perhaps you would like to provide proof that “courts” have said I can be summarily executed.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

The courts, on all levels , say that if you bear arms
you can be summarily executed by a LEO.

Or a SAGITTARIUS with an attitude! Heh.
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I am aware of that.

I am also aware of the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.

And also aware of the Oath I took to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

And I carried.
http://www.rabidamerican.net/ Rabid American

It sounds like a reasonable ground for confirming a Constitutional Right! This is not a “privilege“… as the commies wold have everyone believe!

As “Greg” stated(sic),

why an inalienable right (that means god given or for the secular unable to be separated) to self defense can be taken away just because I walk into a school, bank or government building.
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Yes, the Constitution says I can carry a gun with me. That’s what bear arms means.

When the Constitution says that my Right shall not be infringed, that is a prohibition against governmental interference with that right.

So when I went to DC, I followed the Constitution, even if the regime that was in power did not. Even now, after the SCOTUS has clarified that the Second Amendment entails a fundamental right of the People, the DC Junta is still in contempt of the Constitution.

The Founders almost rejected the Constitution as written. They feared that the central government would arrogate too many powers to itself and make the Constitution an empty letter. For that reason, the Constitution was Amended to include a written Bill of Rights, to make clear to the People when those in power were doing wrong.

All they had to do was to compare the plain language of the Constitution to what government was doing.

It is clear now: a government that tells me, what the Constitution says I can do, is a criminal act, is itself breaking the law.
2Hotel9

I’m supposed to have someone’s permission?
Hoth

They’ve got my support.
right wing conspiracy

and a loaded weapon left in a coat or purse

You are supposed to “”CARRY concealed”" NOT leave it in a coat or purse!
sayanything-4625

I’ve always wondered why inalienable right (that means god given or for the secular unable to be separated) to self defense can be taken away just because I walk into a school, bank or government building. I was handed a loaded weapon every payday in the Army (when I was guarding the payroll) and that was a government building.
sayanything-4625

Perhaps you would like to provide proof that “courts” have said I can be summarily executed.

I looked for this all day and couldn’t find squat that was even related to this. I did find lots of cases where the cops were charged with excessive force for shooting at people that were only thought to be armed. There seems to be a disconnect here, Hmmm.
sayanything-4625

Perhaps you would like to provide proof that “courts” have said I can be summarily executed.

I would like to see that myself. Good luck finding it, kinda goes against “due process” and “reasonable force” doctrines doesn’t it?
WOOFX

The courts, on all levels ,
say that if you bear arms
you can be summarily executed by a LEO.
So it all works out.

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