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Thursday, October 25, 2007

Good Times In the USA

Here’s some examples of our roaring economy you might have missed in the liberal media.

In September 2007, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said 110,000 new jobs were created. For each of the last three months, our economy has created an average of 97,000 new jobs. Since August 2003, the economy has created more than 8.1 million new jobs in 49 consecutive months of job growth.

The national unemployment rate is at 4.7 percent—low by historical standards.

Since President Bush took office, real after-tax per capita personal income has increased more than 12.5 percent—an average of $3,750 per person. More than 30 percent of the country’s net worth has been added since the president’s 2003 tax cuts.

Real wages have increased 2.2 percent during the 12 months ending in August 2007. This is much higher than the average growth rate during the ‘90s, and translates into an extra $1,266 for a two wage-earner family.

Exports have increased over 14.8 percent during the 12 months ending in July 2007, and the trade deficit has been reduced by $8.3 billion.

Real GDP grew at a strong 3.8 percent annual rate in the second quarter of 2007. The U.S. economy is in its sixth year of sustained economic growth, averaging 2.7 percent a year since the turnaround in 2001.

This year tax revenues grew by $161 billion to reach $2,568 trillion, the highest level ever recorded, and an increase of 6.7 percent. And that follows the 14.5 percent and 11.8 percent increase in revenues during the two prior years.

The federal deficit declined by $250 billion in the last three years. In February, the budget deficit for 2007 was projected to be $244 billion. But by September, the deficit was just $163 billion, or 1.3 percent of the economy. As a percentage of the economy, the deficit is now lower than the average of the last 40 years.

Just think that our federal taxes increased more than the entire economies of 173 nations in the world.  (CIA World Factbook figures). In fact that increase in federal tax revenues was in the ballpark of the entire GDP’s of Ireland or Israel.

Word of our demise is greatly exaggerated.

Comments

Yup....roaring economy.....lol


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 25, 2007 at 12:23 pm

I’m not at all surprised that Mark missed it.

Things have been slow at McDonalds since the taco place up the street opened up.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 25, 2007 at 12:37 pm

I quit and moved back home and have investments to pay for butts, beer and porno, so I don’t need to work.......Isn’t that what you do?

Bat One gave me a stock tip...I bought CFC just like he did, it will go back up coz we are in a roarin economy.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 25, 2007 at 01:02 pm

I quit and moved back home and have investments to pay for butts, beer and porno, so I don’t need to work.

That’s nice!  Really.  Your Mom still doing your laundry and fixing PBJs for your lunch?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 25, 2007 at 01:11 pm
ews48 on October 25, 2007 at 09:06 pm

Quick...we need more tax cuts to keep this roaring economy......uh...roaring.

U.S. homeownership rate falls to 4-year low

Countrywide reports $1.2 billion loss

Housing worries consumers, sentiment slumps

American International Group could take a $9.8 billion hit from its exposure to subprime mortgages

Merrill Lynch May Write Down $4 Billion More, CIBC Analyst Says

Asset-Backed Commercial Paper Falls for 11th Week

Oil $91.60
Dollar index 77

good times


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 08:05 am

The fact that stupid people gave stupid mortgages to stupid people doesn’t mean that the rest of the economy run by less stupid people is huring.

That covers your first six points.

Oil $91.60

Rising affluence (around the World, but the US is the biggest consumer) leads to rising demand and thus rising prices.

On the other hand I’d prefer it if you guys would get out of the way and let us develop our local energy sources which certainly can’t hurt.

Dollar index 77

Meaning our exports are cheaper and imports are more expensive.  I thought you guys stayed up late fretting over the trade deficit?


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 08:11 am

Quick...we need more tax cuts to keep this roaring economy

I would agree with that though.  Lower taxes increase investment which creates more jobs.  More money in the economy means more productive people whether they are lounging about on welfare or lounging about in a government job and hopefully not making things worse can get jobs where they actually produce something to be proud of.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 08:15 am

Quick...we need more tax cuts to keep this roaring economy

More ignorance; while our economy is strong enough to endure all the useless and wasteful social spending, it simply does even better with less spending and lower tax rates.  Duh.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 08:42 am

TW

Rising affluence (around the World, but the US is the biggest consumer) leads to rising demand and thus rising prices.

2002 - $22 Dollar index - 125
2007 - $92 Dollar index - 77
Nope the decline in the value of the dollar has nothing to do with it even though oil is priced in dollars.

On the other hand I’d prefer it if you guys would get out of the way and let us develop our local energy sources which certainly can’t hurt

What like oil?
Back in 1986 2.2 million barrels flowed thru the Alaskan pipeline, today it’s 700,000. Do you really think if we produced more oil it would be cheaper? Why do we pay $92 for oil produced here?
How much will oil be after we bomb Iran? $120...$150...$200
I’m sure you were part of the crowd a few years back that laughed when claims were made that we could see $100 oil.

Meaning our exports are cheaper and imports are more expensive.  I thought you guys stayed up late fretting over the trade deficit?

But if our imports such as oil rise then the cost to produce those exports rises along with everything else, consumer goods, fuel...etc

Lower taxes increase investment which creates more jobs.

You must also decrease spending....but as we all know we can’t do that and start new wars when ever you feel like it.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 08:48 am

r108
right...cut useless gov spending, but lets increase defense and attack another country. Thats productive.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 08:51 am

Countrywide (CFC) stock is up nearly 20% in this morning’s trading as of 11:30 am.

And after opening higher, AIG is currently trading off less than 1%, largely on concerns for the insurance giant’s potential exposure in fire-ravaged southern California.

Meanwhile, economist Don Luskin notes the following from today’s WSJ (subscription required),

Energy Future Holdings, formerly known as TXU Corp., made history in the debt markets yesterday.

Bankers successfully placed $7.5 billion of bonds, the largest high-yield, or junk, bond issue ever, with a portion of the deal in risky pay-in-kind toggle notes that market participants weren’t expecting in this round of debt sales for the leveraged buyout.

RJR Nabisco had been the record holder close to two decades with its $6.1 billion junk-bond issue sold in 1989.

Strong demand allowed the underwriters to increase the size of the offering from an originally estimated $4.5 billion.

As Luskin says,

The junk bond market and the leveraged loan market are both recovering rapidly. Yesterday’s historic event was only seen by those who follow the bond market or who read deep inside the Wall Street Journal. Most people probably only read (or heard about) the front page—“Merrill takes $8.4 billion credit hit.”

The junk bond market, which “seized up” in August, is now alive and well. It’s so WELL that history was made yesterday--positive history. But to read about it, you’ll have to dig deep inside the Wall Street Journal. And don’t expected to hear about it on CNBC.

Apparently, the credit markets are not nearly as dysfunctional as the shrill, cognitively-impaired harpies of the left would have us believe.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 26, 2007 at 08:58 am

right...cut useless gov spending, but lets increase defense and attack another country. Thats productive.

Let’s see...how many lies can you tell today, Mark?
National Defense is necessary so that we can remain free and productive; although it isn’t productive in and of itself.  I know that fact doesn’t fit into your soundbite mentality, but it’s true.
We didn’t attack Iraq; we attacked a murdering dictator and freed the people of Iraq to self-determine.  Duh.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 09:03 am

What like oil?
Back in 1986 2.2 million barrels flowed thru the Alaskan pipeline, today it’s 700,000.

Which is why we have the ability to bring down 1.3 million barrels a day down from the arctic wasteland ANWR.

Do you really think if we produced more oil it would be cheaper?

Basic supply and demand would say so.

Why do we pay $92 for oil produced here?

Because it’s a world market.  If we sold it for $50 then Americans like me would buy it and then sell it where I can get $92 for it.  Pretty simple stuff.

Suppose a gas station had a tank of diesel fuel that he had only paid $1 for.  If he were to sell it based on that price rather than his replacement price his competitors would buy up his product and sell it for higher.

How much will oil be after we bomb Iran? $120...$150...$200

Don’t worry about that, Rob’s on a hunger strike to stop it.

On the other hand what will the price after Iran nukes Israel and Israel drops 50 on Iran?  We’re dealing with some very touchy stuff here.

I’m sure you were part of the crowd a few years back that laughed when claims were made that we could see $100 oil.

And you’ve got proof of that?  I didn’t think so.

What’s happening is that worldwide affluence is leading towards more demand.  It doesn’t take much of a shortage to drive the price of oil (or other demand inelastic) up.  The net effect is that we are outbidding the Chinese and not seeing real shortages here.

The problem is that much of the oil that is able to be imported here is underneath some really kooky people.  The solution for us is to develop our own resources such as ANWR the Gulf and perhaps coal gasification which is economically viable at this pricing.

We’ve got plenty of resources the problem is the lefties are blocking us from getting it.

By the way if Clinton hadn’t vetoed ANWR we’d have 1.3 million barrels a day more coming down the pipeline today.

If nothing else that’d be thirty three billion dollars less (at $70/barrel) us dollars going overseas.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 09:05 am

....but as we all know we can’t do that and
start new wars when ever you feel like it.

Wrong again.  We can cut unnecessary and wasteful social spending so that we can more effectively defend ourselves from the murdering terrorists.  We all know that, Mark.  You seem to be the only one who doesn’t know it.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 09:12 am

bat
Countrywide (CFC) stock is up nearly 20% in this morning’s trading as of 11:30 am
hmmmmm didn’t this happen before......oh ya it was when Angelo said everything is fine and then ran and cashed out. Round 2, he still has stock to sell.
Yup he sees profit coming.
perhaps he thinks foreclosures are gonna stop.

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Apparently, the credit markets are not nearly as dysfunctional as the shrill, cognitively-impaired harpies of the left would have us believe

Yes MLEC is gonna save us all....yipeeeee


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 09:34 am

I predict a housing boom in CA.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 09:41 am

TW

Because it’s a world market

Then why do Iranians and Venezuelans pay less?
Oh state run oil.. not corporate run oil.
Kinda like the Iraqis had before we attacked I mean liberated them from the evils of state owned oil


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 09:44 am

I predict a housing boom in CA.

me too......in 2025


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 09:45 am

Then why do Iranians and Venezuelans pay less?

It amounts to a subsidy.  If you have an oil well in your backyard you don’t have to charge yourself the price, but there is an opportunity cost.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on October 26, 2007 at 09:49 am

It will be in 2008.

Oh state run oil.. not corporate run oil.

The price in those totalitarian countries doesn’t reflect the true cost, which is why socialist economies always stagnate and fail, unless they can appropriate wealth from more productive economies.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 09:53 am

TW

It amounts to a subsidy.  If you have an oil well in your backyard you don’t have to charge yourself the price, but there is an opportunity cost.

I sure wish we had oil in our back yard.......
but Exxon-Mobil took our opportunity cost.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 09:56 am

It amounts to a subsidy.  If you have an oil well in your backyard you don’t have to charge yourself the price, but there is an opportunity cost.

Actually, they pay for it in other ways, with higher taxes, oppressive govt control of private life, and shortages of consumer products in other areas.  It’s all for political show.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 09:56 am

r108

It will be in 2008

ya better get goin and buy some of that cheap stuff so you can get in while it’s good. Buy some CFC stock while your at it coz their profits are gonna go up next year.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 09:58 am

Mark: If I needed any investment advice, I wouldn’t come to you, since you demonstrate with every comment that you are economically ignorant.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 10:12 am

r108
Huh.....California housing boom in 2008????
And you call me economically ignorant

I don’t think rebuilding the homes lost in the fires will be considered a housing boom.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 11:09 am

I don’t think rebuilding the homes lost in the fires will be considered a housing boom.

This is exactly why I consider you economically ignorant.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 11:30 am

Based, no doubt, on Mark D’s ignorant vote of no confidence, the stock of Countrywide Financial (CFC) closed up 32.36%… for the day!!!

As a financial analyst, Mark, you’d make one helluva beautician.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 26, 2007 at 02:19 pm

...the stock of Countrywide Financial (CFC) closed up 32.36%… for the day!!!

No doubt a result of both the evening out of the housing market financing and the anticipation of the upcoming housing boom in CA.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 02:38 pm

Bat
Angelo thanks you for his support.
How about you keep an eye on when he draws the rest of his money...or should I say your money, out.

Angelo Mozilo screws stock holders


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 05:54 pm

r108
Your not that stupid.....are you


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 05:57 pm

Mark:

When the Superior Man hears about the Tao, he immediately puts it into practice;

When the Average Man hears about the Tao, he wants to know more about it;

When the Fool hears about the Tao, he laughs; if he didn’t laugh, it wouldn’t be the Tao.

A word to the wise is sufficient, but you can talk all day to a fool, and he still won’t get it.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 06:08 pm

Actually, Mark, you’re not that smart.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 26, 2007 at 06:10 pm

Your (sic) not that stupid.....are you

Markie: Always good for a laugh when some bonehead tries to impugn someone else’s intelligence and can’t spell the words in his insult! LOL!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on October 26, 2007 at 06:37 pm

Who cares if I’m not smart?
Then buy homes in CA and buy CFC.

IMO housing has 12 to 18 more months of price declines before any stabilization. We haven’t even begun the absolute auctions to liquidate the REOs that these companies are holding. What will that do to RE prices?
Check out CFCs foreclosed homes in your neighborhood.......Cheap Pre-Owned Homes

CFC is gone. Early 2008, maybe sooner, depends how much Mozilo can pull out and how quick SEC investigates. Foreclosures have just begun.
If you need ARM reset time frames let me know, we just started the climb.

When did they stop writing subprime loans? Answer that one Mr. Smartass.
Case closed.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 06:41 pm

sorry proof....too many bud lights to even care what you are trying to say


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on October 26, 2007 at 06:49 pm

too many bud lights

See! You’re getting smarter as we speak!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on October 26, 2007 at 06:52 pm

CFC is gone. Early 2008, maybe sooner…

Mark,

Bray on!  I’ve already given you an opportunity to put your money where your mouth is… or as I said at the time, my mouth.  Instead you ignored the challenge, thus proving both your lack of knowledge and your lack of fortitude.

As for this silly bit of belligerence,

When did they stop writing subprime loans? Answer that one Mr. Smartass.

Please explain why “they”, whoever that might be, should stop writing subprime loans?  There are plenty of them being written every single day.  So?  Whats the point?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 26, 2007 at 09:08 pm

wake up, robots!!!

we’re living off our past, becoming a relic much like the Soviets in the late eighties.  We must return to “guilded age” of productivity and worker-management focus on economic growth.  Today, we’re just a bunch of fat cats, and we’re getting our brains beat in by hungry Indians and Chinese.

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Out-Corporate-Addiction-Outsourcing/dp/0313345023/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6485868-0284055?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193437996&sr=8-1

IAP on October 27, 2007 at 05:42 pm

Today, we’re just a bunch of fat cats, and we’re getting our brains beat in by hungry Indians and
Chinese.

A popular Marxist myth.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 27, 2007 at 05:58 pm

A popular Marxist myth.

Sure, the Chinese and Indians learning to succeed in a capitalist system has a lot to do with Marxism.

Maybe you need to look up the definition of what “capitalism” and “marxism” are.

IAP on October 27, 2007 at 11:17 pm

Today, we’re just a bunch of fat cats, and we’re getting our brains beat in by hungry Indians and
Chinese.

It was Marx’s belief that a collectivist society would defeat an individualist society, which is what you are predicting.  The fact that socialist societies are adopting a few of the practices of a free society creates the illusion of prosperity, but not real prosperity.  You need all the freedoms for it to work in the long run: personal, economic, religious and political.  The Soviet Union claimed to be doing better than us for a long time, but their lack of real freedom eventually defeated them.  They were faking it, as are the Chinese.  The Indians are closer, and will remain our allies because of it.  Partnership, not collectivism, is the key to success.
You might want to do some more reading.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on October 27, 2007 at 11:35 pm

bat

Please explain why “they”, whoever that might be, should stop writing subprime loans?  There are plenty of them being written every single day.  So?  Whats the point?

What’s the point?
How about asking the share holders and employees of Citi, Merrill, Credit Suisse and of course Countrywide to name just a few. Well OK a few more.....

“Imploded” Lenders:
177. Exchange Financial
176. FirstBank Mortgage
175. Bank of America (Wholesale Unit)
174. Diablo Funding Group Inc.
173. Honor State Bank
172. Spectrum Financial Group
171. National City - Home Equity, Correspondent
170. Priority Funding Mortgage Bankers
169. BrooksAmerica Mortgage Corp.
168. Valley Vista Mortgage
167. New State Mortgage Company
166. Summit Mortgage Company
165. WMC
164. Paragon Home Lending
163. First Mariner Wholesale
162. The Lending Connection
161. Foxtons, Inc.
160. SCME Mortage Bankers (Wholesale)
159. Aapex Mortgage (Apex Financial Group)
158. Wells Fargo (various Correspondent and Non-prime divisions)
157. Nationstar Mortgage
156. Decision One (HSBC)
155. Impac Lending Group (Wholesale)
154. E-Trade Wholesale Lending
153. Long Beach (WaMu Warehouse/Correspondent)
152. Expanded Mortgage Credit Wholesale
151. The Mortgage Store Financial
150. C & G Financial
149. CFIC Home Mortgage
148. BrokerSource (BSM Financial - Wholesale)
147. All Fund Mortgage
146. LownHome Financial
145. Sea Breeze Financial Services
144. Castle Point Mortgage
143. Premium Funding Corp
142. Group One Lending
141. Allstate Home Loans / Allstate Funding
140. Home Loan Specialists (HLS)
139. Transnational Finance Wholesale
138. CIT Home Lending
137. Capital Six Funding
136. Mortgage Investors Group (MIG) - Wholesale
135. Amstar Mortgage Corp
134. Quality Home Loans
133. BNC Mortgage (Lehman)
132. Accredited Home Lenders, Home Funds Direct
131. First National Bank of Arizona (FNBA) Wholesale, Correspondent
130. Chevy Chase Bank Correspondent
129. GreenPoint Mortgage - Capital One Wholesale
128. NovaStar (Wholesale), Homeview Lending
127. Quick Loan Funding
126. Calusa Investments
125. Mercantile Mortgage
124. First Magnus
123. First Indiana Wholesale
122. GEM Loans / Pacific American Mortgage (PAMCO)
121. Kirkwood Financial Corporation
120. Lexington Lending
119. Express Capital Lending
118. Deutsche Bank Correspondent Lending Group (CLG)
117. MLSG
116. Trump Mortgage
115. HomeBanc Mortgage Corporation
114. Mylor Financial
113. Aegis
112. Alternative Financing Corp (AFC) Wholesale
111. Winstar Mortgage
110. American Home Mortgage / American Brokers Conduit
109. Optima Funding
108. Equity Funding Group
107. Sunset Mortgage
106. Fieldstone Mortgage Company
105. Nations Home Lending
104. Entrust Mortgage
103. Alera Financial (Wholesale)
102. Flick Mortgage/Mortgage Simple
101. Dollar Mortgage Corporation
100. Alliance Bancorp
99. Choice Capital Funding
98. Premier Mortgage Funding
97. Stone Creek Funding
96. FlexPoint Funding (Wholesale & Retail)
95. Starpointe Mortgage
94. Unlimited Loan Resources (ULR)
93. Freestand Financial
92. Steward Financial
91. Bridge Capital Corporation
90. Altivus Financial
89. ACT Mortgage
88. Alliance Mortgage Banking Corp (AMBC)
87. Concord Mortgage Wholesale
86. Heartwell Mortgage
85. Oak Street Mortgage
84. The Mortgage Warehouse
83. First Street Financial
82. Right-Away Mortgage
81. Heritage Plaza Mortgage
80. Horizon Bank Wholesale Lending Group
79. Lancaster Mortgage Bank (LMB)
78. Bryco (Wholesale)
77. No Red Tape Mortgage
76. The Lending Group (TLG)
75. Pro 30 Funding
74. NetBank Funding, Market Street Mortgage
73. Columbia Home Loans, LLC
72. Mortgage Tree Lending
71. Homeland Capital Group
70. Nation One Mortgage
69. Dana Capital Group
68. Millenium Funding Group
67. MILA
66. Home Equity of America
65. Opteum (Wholesale, Conduit)
64. Innovative Mortgage Capital
63. Home Capital, Inc.
62. Home 123 Mortgage
61. Homefield Financial
60. First Horizon Subprime, Equity Lending
59. Platinum Capital Group (Wholesale)
58. First Source Funding Group (FSFG)
57. Alterna Mortgage
56. Solutions Funding
55. People’s Mortgage
54. LowerMyPayment.com
53. Zone Funding
52. First Consolidated (Subprime Wholesale)
51. EquiFirst
50. SouthStar Funding

Click for the rest.....

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“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 07:51 am

Okay, Mark, one MORE time, what’s your point?  Do you actually have a point t make, or is your commentary simply so much ignorant hot air?

Could it be that a lot of people are paying a price for their past poor decisions?  Duh!!  That’s what grownups call consequences, kid.  All you’ve done here is demonstrate just how unrealistic and cognitively dysfunctional you leftards can be.

Are you suggesting that there shouldn’t be any sub-prime mortgages?  I’ve got three of ‘em on my desk right now, and two were approved this morning.  Do people with shitty credit histories not deserve the chance to redeem themselves and prove they can handle their finances more responsibly?  That “chance” is exactly what sub-prime mortgages are, after all.

Or perhaps your point is that everybody ought to have access to mortgage money at the same price and interest rate, regardless of their demonstrated lack of financial responsibility?  That would be more in keeping with the idiot left’s ignorant view of economics and finance, but that idea too ain’t going anywhere, as any adult will patiently explain to you.

So, once again, what’s your point?

Most of the “lenders” on the list you’ve so tediously cut and pasted, aren’t really lenders, but “master brokers,” and over the years I’ve probably done business with about half of them.  If they’re not in business anymore, its because they made bad decisions along the way.  There are, and certainly will be, others to take their place… and hopefully, those others will be prudent enough to remain in business.

Finally, as for Countrywide (CFC), I’d have a lot more respect for you, and your point of view, if you were to back up your considered opinion with something more substantial.  I bought 1000 shares, and if the stock drops below $15 again, I may well buy more.  When you’ve shorted that same 1000 shares, for at least 6 months’ time, then we’ll talk.  Meantime, you’re just so much hot air.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 1, 2007 at 09:06 am

bat
OK....subprime loans are what is closing down these places and why CFC has gone from over $40 a share(most likely when you bought them) to $14.63 as we speak.

Lending money for a home to people who can’t afford one is one of the reasons this country is in a recession. Duh


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 10:06 am

Lending money for a home to people who can’t afford one is one of the reasons this country is in a recession. Duh--

A recession is defined as three or more consecutive quarters of negative growth; we aren’t even close to that.  Double Duh.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on November 1, 2007 at 10:14 am

Are you suggesting that there shouldn’t be any sub-prime mortgages?  I’ve got three of ‘em on my desk right now, and two were approved this morning.  Do people with shitty credit histories not deserve the chance to redeem themselves and prove they can handle their finances more responsibly?  That “chance” is exactly what sub-prime mortgages are, after all.

This is what we will be seeing for the next 3 to 6 years.....it’s exactly what subprime mortgages are, after all.

GMAC, ... on Thursday reported a $1.6 billion third-quarter loss, hurt by mortgage losses at its home lending unit amid difficulties in the housing and credit markets.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 10:19 am

r108
Exactly.....4Q 2007, 1Q 2008, 2Q 2008.
There, 3 quarters.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 10:21 am

Exactly.....4Q 2007, 1Q 2008, 2Q 2008.
There, 3 quarters.

I don’t think the definition of “recession” includes your negative fantasies, Mark. It has to actually happen.
If you have any integrity, get back to us when the data comes through.  My fantasy is that none of those quarters will be in the negative.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on November 1, 2007 at 10:32 am

r108
Right.........it’s called reality

Hopefully these workers can find some government jobs so the employment figures don’t skid.

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch)—Fidelity Investments, the Boston-based mutual-funds giant, has told some of its managers to begin letting employees in specific divisions know of impending layoffs, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

Chrysler cuts four models, up to 10,000 hourly jobs
The company will also cut between 8,500 and 10,000 hourly workers relating to the shifts that will be shut down across five North American assembly plants. The reductions will also include 1,000 salaried employees and more than a third of its contract workers.
Chrysler said these job losses are in addition to the 13,000 positions cut by the restructuring plans announced back in February, before private equity group Cerberus Capital Management took the wheel in the spring.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 10:52 am

Mark: You make the very typical logical error when you want to downtalk something: you inflate the costs while not mentioning the benefits.  When you want to promote something, like social programs, you speak only of the benefits without mentioning the costs.  Workers find other jobs in expanding areas of the economy, which is why the unemployment figures stay low.  We have over 95% employment.  The job losses at Chrysler are mostly a reflection of govt-sponsored unionism, not the vitality of our overall economy.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on November 1, 2007 at 11:11 am

Oh you mean expanding areas like frialator operators at a local fast food joint, or a sales associate at Mao-Mart, or perhaps a cashier at CVS.
Wow I see.... expanding areas.....
and if they can’t find one with the same pay scale coz most high paying jobs are sent to China or India, then they should work two jobs or perhaps cut back on spending......but that will lead to lower tax revenues.........


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on November 1, 2007 at 11:30 am

Oh you mean expanding areas like frialator operators at a local fast food joint, or a sales associate at Mao-Mart, or perhaps a cashier at CVS.
Wow I see.... expanding areas.....and if they can’t find one with the same pay scale coz most high paying
jobs are sent to China or India, then they should work two jobs or perhaps cut back on spending......but that will lead to lower tax revenues.........

Your thinking continues to be limited by your negative Marxist ideology.  The capital that is moving out of the residential housing market will flow to more productive uses, and will result in more job creation at all levels.  It just won’t happen instantly, so you can keep preaching your leftist hate for a little while longer.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on November 1, 2007 at 11:34 am
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