Give Credit Where It Is Due

  •  February 1, 2005

To those who were opposed to the war in Iraq but are currently engaged in praising the elections and calling them the “first step” toward Democracy, please remember why we were able to hold free elections in that country yesterday.
Those elections are to be credited to the vision of a President who was willing to buck popular international opinion and do the right thing in Iraq.
And yes, we invaded based on a mistake but you cannot deny that there have been some very satisfactory side effects. And yes, we have paid for these elections with the lives of our soldiers…but freedom takes time. A free and democratic Iraq will be a powerful ally in a region where the ideals of freedom and democracy are not widely accepted. It can be the “first step” toward bringing an oppressed and politically backward region of the world into the 21st century.
That, my friends, is worth fighting for.

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  • http://Array Jadegold

    All soldiers support the President, it’s their job.

    You’d know this if you;d serve.

  • Jadegold

    Good luck with that, Rob.

    Just a suggestion: I firmly believe a hitch in the military would do you a lot of good; if nothing else, you’d gain a greater appreciation than you currently have.

  • Jadegold

    “This is where you discount everything I have to say because I’m not fighting in Iraq.”

    No, Rob, we’ve been over this ground. But when you make statement like:

    “That, my friends, is worth fighting for. ”

    …when you’ve told us you’re not interested in serving because of your financial situation…well, you get the drift.

  • Jadegold

    “If you’re not willing to take your opposition to this war to Iraq I don’t see where you get off expecting me to take my support there.”

    And what would I do in Iraq? How might my presence stop the foolishness?

  • Jadegold

    “Just my enrollment in the military by itself wouldn’t have a great impact.”

    Rob, would you tell the family of a deceased serviceman that he or she didn’t make a great impact?

  • Jadegold

    “You’re saying that freedom for Iraqis is not something we should fight for? ”

    Rob, what I’m saying is you don’t believe what you wrote.

  • Jadegold

    “Living in this country, I have the choice of whether or not to serve in the military.”

    Yes, you do. And as I noted earlier, you have every right to your opinion.

    Still, telling us you believe something is worth fighting for when, in fact, your own inactions belie that assertion is rather funny.

    “If Hitler were to rise from the ashes in Germany and again begin killing jews, would you tell me that I could not support that war because I am not enrolled in the military?”

    During WWII, you’d probably not have had a choice. There was a draft.

  • Jadegold

    “That, my friends, is worth fighting for.”

    Why do you tempt me so?

    Meanwhile…$9B of your tax dollars seems to have gone missing. Must be the fault of protesters or something…

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    By yourself, not much. Just my enrollment in the military by itself wouldn’t have a great impact. But if enough of people like you went over there you could have stopped the war.

    You’ll tell me that my reasoning is absurd. But its no more absurd than your expectation that every supporter of the war sign up for the military.

    You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Ah. I see. This is where you discount everything I have to say because I’m not fighting in Iraq.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Why do you tempt me so?

    You’re saying that freedom for Iraqis is not something we should fight for? I think its worth fighting for, especially seeing as how a free and democratic Iraq is a long step in the right direction for reform all over the middle-east, something that is important for the whole world.

    Meanwhile…$9B of your tax dollars seems to have gone missing. Must be the fault of protesters or something…

    This lack of oversight is very troubling. I hope the matter is investigated and resolved as quickly as possible, but it doesn’t mean we should abandon our operations in Iraq nor does it imply that Iraq was a bad idea in the first though, though you will no doubt try to spin this into something which means those things.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Its not their job to support him with their votes, is it?

    You’d know this, if you weren’t blindingly partisan.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’d tell them that he or she made as much impact as one soldier can make.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I wasn’t talking about WWII, I was talking about a renewed and widley popular war our current all-volunteer military could handle. Would I be precluded from supporting that war because I have not opted to serve in the military?

    If you’re not willing to take your opposition to this war to Iraq I don’t see where you get off expecting me to take my support there.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Seeing as how the vast majority of soldiers support (with their votes) the President I don’t see where it would change my stance on much of anything.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Of course, you didn’t exactly back up your opposition to this war by making yourself a human shield.

    Living in this country, I have the choice of whether or not to serve in the military. I have chosen a career outside the military. This does not mean that I cannot support the foreign policies I agree with.

    If Hitler were to rise from the ashes in Germany and again begin killing jews, would you tell me that I could not support that war because I am not enrolled in the military?

    You need to find a better argument, pal.

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