Gingrich Won’t Apologize For Backing Scozzafava But Says Conservatives Have A Right To Be Angry

Gingrich’s point, I think, is that he still thinks Republicans should have united behind the nominee for the sake of not splitting the center-right coalition and giving the Democrats a victory but that Scozzafava was probably the wrong pick from the get-go.
I disagree with him on the former, but couldn’t agree more on the latter.


Despite all the liberal crowing, and the on-going dissension in Republican ranks, I really think this has been a positive exercise for the GOP in general. The Republican establishment has perhaps learned that they’re going to have to be a lot more careful in candidate selection, which is a good thing. And perhaps the conservative based has learned that sheer will alone doesn’t win elections.
A good lesson for both sides of the coin, I think.

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  • http://Array sayanything-42

    Who?

  • sayanything-12

    Ken:

    My overall point, I guess, is that the GOP is probably going to have to accept moderates and even RINOs in order to win elections in the NE. I’d love for it not to be the case, but I don’t see things changing in the immediate future.

    For me, a RINO is somebody who not only holds beliefs that inconsistent with the mainstream party, but who caucuses with the Democrats. Part of the point I made previous was there were no examples where Scozzafava in fact did that.

    There is no point to true RINOs, because if they are going to vote against your party plank, they just provide political cover for your opponent, and do nothing beneficial for you in the long run.

  • Ken

    I’d also add, the problem isn’t really that NE GOP candidates are “moderate”, it’s that the NE GOP electorate is moderate. If you want to change the outcome of the elections here, you need to change the base before you change the candidates.

  • sayanything-2

    Socialized healthcare will change their minds, at least till it kills them.

  • Ken

    There’s a lot of people out there claiming that Hoffman lost because the locals didn’t like meddling from the national scene. But that just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Hoffman had more support than Scozzafava before all of the high-profile endorsements began, so clearly the electorate was unhappy with the GOP’s pick. Sure there was support from moderates thrown to Owens camp after Scozzafava bowed out, but would the conservative base have even bothered to come out if Hoffman wasn’t in the race? I think either way we would have scene a GOP loss (and lets not forget that with her dropout, the GOP as a party had already lost before voters had even gone to the polls). No matter what way you slice it, the party leaders bungled this from the beginning.

    Though OTOH, I understand that there are other dynamics at play. For the Northeast, Scozzafava wasn’t really as liberal as many like to claim. From living in the NE, I can tell you that abortion and gay marriage aren’t as big issues as they are in other parts of the country. Many in the GOP here could care less about either issue and many even support the legalization of both. Our base is made up of rural voters who care most about limited government, and what some like to deem “Country-Club Republicans”. Both aren’t real big on social/moral conservatism. National support from religious and social conservatives would actually hurt a NE candidates chance of winning. The “Country-Clubbers” would drop support, and unfortunately, that’s where the local party gets a lot of its money from. From growing up surrounded by these “Country-Clubbers”, I can tell you that they look down on most of the country. To them, the South is full of inbred hicks and the midwest is just flyover territory (I’ve been to both, so I can see that’s not the case).

    My overall point, I guess, is that the GOP is probably going to have to accept moderates and even RINOs in order to win elections in the NE. I’d love for it not to be the case, but I don’t see things changing in the immediate future.

  • Brent

    I have always disliked the affair-disgraced Gingrich, so I can’t say I really care what he has to say. No matter how much more authentic conservatives like Armey try to defend Gingrich, the fact of the matter is that Gingrich is a hypocritical social conservative who is only partially committed to fiscal conservatism and loves “big government” type things like central banking and war. And he’s a bad historian to boot.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    The platform is to follow the Constitution and the founding principles. All who support that are welcome into the big tent of real American values.

    Govt social spending never helps, it harms.

  • sayanything-51

    Palin/Hoffman 2012

  • sayanything-5633

    I saw Gingrich on Hannity yesterday, and one of the things he said really struck a chord with me. He mentioned that at the end of the day, the key thing he is working towards is to place John Boehner in the Majority Leader’s seat. On that I agree. We need to take back the majority…..BUT we must also make sure hat we are doing so with true conservatives. Scozzafava was the wrong choice. She is a died in the wool liberal with no conservative values whatsoever.

    Though I’m very conservative, I’m not one of those who think that the party needs to squeeze out anyone who is not 100% conservative.

    As long as the candidate is with me on the majority of the issues, and on the key issues, right to life, smaller government, fiscal restraint, lower taxation, they are welcome to stay in the party. I trust that strong party leadership will keep the more moderate members in line.

  • sayanything-43

    If Janet Reno’s kid sister had one then the Republican higher ups would have seen that finding candidates antithetical to their base was the key to getting their mojo back.

  • sayanything-1254

    The party platform is let gays be gays, but no corruption of the meaning of marriage; no killing of the preborn because mom doesn’t want to lose her girlish figure; take care of those in genuine need and provide charter schools and vouchers for poor kids stuck in inner-city schools run by the democrat macine & the NEA.

  • sayanything-1714

    What is the party platform? No gays, let mothers along with their babies die instead of getting an abortion? Let poor people starve, without healthcare and….and…kill the school system.

    How has that been working out for y’all?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Oops. If Janet Reno’s Kid sister had “WON”

  • carrick

    Ken:

    There’s a lot of people out there claiming that Hoffman lost because the locals didn’t like meddling from the national scene

    That’s what some people from the district were saying. Its anecdotal evidence, I admit, but I think even that’s better than speculative arguments.

  • sayanything-5633

    Dino, Let’s start by practicing your platform. Send me all of your earnings, al of your children’s earnings, and all of their children’s earnings. Then tell me how you like that chane.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    How do you feel about serial philanderer, sexual harasser and rapist Bill Clinton?

    Double standard?

  • jimmypop

    hes very, very wrong… vote for the person because they have have an ‘r’ behind their name? no, thank you. thats what the libby sheep do. follow their masters orders just like algores daddy and liberal leader, hero, icon KKK byrd would want them to do. I hope the gop learns from this.

  • sayanything-2

    I have been asking for years, why does ANYONE listen to this failure?

  • sayanything-4416

    Gingrich? I thought that was Barbra bush in drag……

  • sayanything-4416

    Do conservatives have a platform? Is the cultivation of greed, selfishness and fear a platform?

  • sayanything-81

    Gingrich is now a RINO? Wow. Good luck with that.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’m not saying I’m not willing to bend a bit. But the people we elect have to advance the platform of its worthless.

  • sayanything-4416

    Like I said, all you people think about is how to get out of paying for the services and resources of society. You want everything to be free to you. You think your fabulous military runs on air.

    In short, conservatism is dead beat-ism.

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