Giffords Pulls Only 75-100 People In Fargo, Democrats Mum On Her Visit

Former Congresswoman Gabbie Giffords didn’t get a very warm reception in North Dakota for her gun control pitch. She and her husband spent the morning in Bismarck at meetings with the media closed off to the public (I’m told she was at Kroll’s Diner where a few protesters found her and told her to “go home”). She then went to Fargo where she had a mid-afternoon event where about 100 people showed up.

Of course, of that 75 people, a SAB reader notes that many were wearing NRA or other pro-gun shirts/hats. Meaning they weren’t likely won over by Giffords’ pitch.


The event was well-publicized. Her visit and its location was reported in the media days in advance. But Giffords’ message just isn’t very popular in North Dakota, despite her claims that over 70% of the state supports the expanded background checks she’s touting.

As evidence, consider that Senator Heidi Heitkamp and the Democrat party gave Giffords a wide berth while she was in the state. While Giffords was in Fargo, Heitkamp and the Democrats were holding a picnic in Bismarck. And not once did Senator Heitkamp or the North Dakota Democrats mention Giffords’ presence in North Dakota on their websites or social media streams.

“Giffords’ agenda includes working to enact a comprehensive federal background check for gun purchases, which 79 percent of North Dakotans support, polls show, but not 79 percent of the state’s elected representatives,” grumped the Fargo Forum in an editorial today. “North Dakotans also believe by a margin of 69 percent that it is possible to protect gun rights and strengthen gun laws. Elected officials, state and federal, are out of step on that one, too.”

If that level of support were true anywhere but in the Forum’s ivory tower in downtown Fargo, Heitkamp and the Democrats would have been quick to trumpet her visit. As it was, Giffords was relegated to a smallish coffee shop and a tiny crowd.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Take

    150 in a cafe you misinformed fat dickhead

    • RCND

      Wow. Better call the fire marshal.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      That’s probably what the organizers are claiming, and since organizers always overstate attendance, I think 100 is a pretty safe estimate.

      • Take

        Oh so now you’ve changed the number yourself.

        • Spirit of Resistance

          Were you there?

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          75 – 100.

          Certainly not 150.

          But whatever. There’s always this pissing match afterwards. The organizers want to claim 1000% of what was actually there.

          Yawn.

          • Take

            I was there. Look at the video in YouTube

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Yeah, yeah.

            If I said 150, you’d say 300.

            blah, blah, blah

          • devilschild

            No. I don’t like foul language.

      • Walther Smith

        They throw out a few detractors.

        • borborygmi45

          aholes not wanted?

    • devilschild

      The site was infiltrated today by the foul mouthed Gabbie fans. What a fine way to represent her…/sarc

    • Mark 2112

      well considering those who attended were liberals, they probably counted them more than once like they do with their votes

  • DWHoover

    But I am sure by the time it reaches MSNBC, it will be “Giffords cheered on by 75,000 jubilant North Dakotans”…..

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I’m sure the Forum will pin attendance at about 300. Ha.

      • Spirit of Resistance

        I will be interested to see the Forums take as well. I was interviewed by the High Plains Reader so they will have a write up as well. I saw a few other pro-gun guys being interviewed by either KVLY or the local Fox News channel. Keep an eye open for those as well.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        About 100 supporters of the couple crammed into Fargo’s Atomic Coffee on Wednesday afternoon.

        http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/405098/publisher_ID/1/
        Ha.

    • two_amber_lamps

      Maybe they’ll conveniently swap photos of the event with Tahrir Square and “accidentally” photoshop some of the banners…

  • Spirit of Resistance

    I was there. It was not 150 people. 75-100 is accurate.

    • Fatty

      You were not there cunt

      • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

        He took the pictures.

        But I really love how the libs who were in attendance are showing their true colors. What a bunch of nice, gracious people you are.

        • Guest

          Rob, I’m a democrat that person is just an ass! I would never talk like that to anyone! I don’t care their political views!

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            That’s good to hear!

      • devilschild

        You just gave me one more reason not to support Gabbie Giffords.

        • two_amber_lamps

          Other than her health and continued safety there’s no reason TO support her and her underhanded leftist quisling husband.

      • borborygmi45

        Idiot

        • $8194357

          10X gurgle.

  • borborygmi45

    “If that level of support were true anywhere but in the Forum’s ivory tower in downtown Fargo, Heitkamp and the Democrats would have been quick to trumpet her visit. ” And since it isn’t it was trumpeted on right wing blogs. Alot of trumpets being blown

  • NNccWW

    Just a word about crowd-counting. Anything short of 500 or so, you can actually count. You know, one, two, three. Sure’s it’s not perfectly accurate, but don’t guestimate. Just count.

  • Walther Smith

    I was kicked out of the event in Fargo.

    • RCND

      Why?

      • Walther Smith

        When I was able to get in I handed out some flyers.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          What were the flyers for?

          • Walther Smith

            They were flyers that attempted to align Gay rights with gun rights and self-defense.

            They were originally to be hung around the Fargo Moorhead colleges. But we printed some off to hand out.

            I had no idea of this meeting happening until yesterday afternoon so we did not have time to plan much.

            They flyers were originally placed by friends in the Washington area. Especially around media HQs.

            The plan is too show the gun rights movement in a way that a liberal would support.

          • Bubba

            So are you affiliated with Walther arms, or just a fan? They do make some lovely pistols.

          • Walther Smith

            Just a fan.

        • JoeMN

          The left will tell you how “tolerant” they are, and exactly what they will tolerate.

          • Walther Smith

            Some did say that what e were doing was pointless because they support gay rights… But I asked them if they supported the right of self defense.

            I was asked to leave before I got an answer.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            That’s too bad.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      What for?

  • banjo kid

    Most people today grew up in homes that had shot guns and 22’s and they understand the need to own those. protection of self and family including the family pets . My first rifle was a 22 JC Higgins and it was bolt action and single shot. It was a sign of growing up and being trusted enough to handle a weapon. My Father would have took it away in a heartbeat if I used it incorrectly . Today it is the young men that get guns and use them carelessly and do not even think of safety and that is sad because that is where accidents happen that never go away. When the young ones do grow up in about 20 years they will know that Gun control is a big mistake period. Gifford is not real well liked among gun owners and no surprise there, although none of them wish her any ill will.

    • Bubba

      I have no issue with gun ownership, it’s generally a positive thing. To be clear, most people in the US today did not grow up in homes that had shot guns and 22s. I don’t know why you think that’s true, could you please provide some statistics?

      • $8194357

        In fly over country we sure did..
        shot guns, 22’s and a lot more…

        • banjo kid

          most families in the 50’s and even the 60’s had shot guns and 22’s

          • $8194357

            We had to go with them a 1898 30-40 krag
            and a 1903 30-06 spring field.
            All loaded without one in the chamber and ready to go.
            Varmits of the four and two legged variety were well prepared for.
            Dad showed us kids when young what the guns were capable of doing.
            Told us they were loaded and to leave them alone. At an early age we were taught to handle and shoot them.

      • banjo kid

        I was referring to the adults such as 60 and up not the young ones. grew up means to have aged with some wisdom , not growing up.

        • Bubba

          Thank you for the clarification!

      • TyrannyInsurance

        I think you are incorrect about growing up with guns. I believe in Wisconsin alone 600,000 people go deer hunting. In ND, how many people don’t go to work/school the first Friday of deer season?

  • SusanBeehler

    The protesters in Mandan arrived in a dump truck and their Turd Burglar truck. When Mark Kelly and Gabby arrived with her guide dog by her side, these protesters booed at her and told her to go home. These guys were jerks. Gabby was gracious and Mark was very down to earth. I and others welcomed them to North Dakota.

    • devilschild

      I don’t like the name calling either. I wonder if she doesn’t have a group of mean-spirited individuals, on both sides of this issue, following her from town to town. You don’t gain support by being crass.

      • SusanBeehler

        The guys Jamie Brecht and Marty Beard were two of the protesters who booed are from the Bismarck Mandan area. My guess they found out from one of their buddies who works at a news outlet and decided to show up and look like the crap they haul. They are gun owners and so are Gabby and Mark. To act so disrespectful is disgusting.

        • TyrannyInsurance

          So vulgar pigs are fine as long as they lean to the left?

          • SusanBeehler

            I do not like vulgar pigs. I think Rob should not allow the C word and some of the other mean spirited name calling on this blog. He is the moderator he could set the ground rules and censor “nasty” “vulgar” name calling but he has chosen not to including names against himself. Maybe Robs enjoys allowing the comments to appear like a victim. Name calling just gets to be a degradation and in the way of any kind of discussion between opposing viewpoints.

          • devilschild

            Rob allows people to show who they are. If someone wants to prove to us that he/she is a vulgar crass person that is their choice to make. I was glad to see that people on both sides of this issue posted comments against that type of language.

      • banjo kid

        so it is ok for the left to call people names but not the right , you just gave Beehler a pass . ” Turd burglar truck ” ?

        • whowon

          SO typical of her, the hypocrite doesn’t even get it. Like Al Sharpton, they can do it but anyone opposed to their view are…bigots, racists…

          • SusanBeehler

            It is the name of the protester”s business and he arrived with the name on the side of his pumper truck. If he did not want to be called “turd burglar” why did he name his business as such. http://ndturdburglar.com/

        • devilschild

          Its not okay. I didn’t point out her crude comment because its pointless to debate certain individuals.

          • banjo kid

            Toupee! or touche or what ever you are right .

          • SusanBeehler

            The C word is far more offensive in most people’s scale offensiveness. Many women would put it right up their with the N word.

        • SusanBeehler

          Turd Burglar is the name of Marty Beard’s business, he chose the name not me. http://ndturdburglar.com/

        • SusanBeehler

          Here is the picture of Marty Beard, the guy’s vehicle who Booed Gabby when she arrived. I wasn’t calling him a name it is his name.

          • banjo kid

            some people just do not have any respect for them selves . I thank you for the correction . and I back off on this one.

    • sbark

      well, at least they didn’t play the song “Hail Satan” as did the pro-abortion’ists in Texas……

      • SusanBeehler

        The protesters did bring up abortions to me when I talked to them, that topic was not the topic of Gabby and Mark. I do not support abortions and told them so and walked away. Gabby and Mark wanted to talk about sensible solutions on gun issues and responsible gun ownership. These guys didn’t they just wanted to “fight”.

    • turfdog

      Everyone has a right to their first amendment, including the jerks. Gabby and hubby are welcome where ever they go IMO. However, their blatant lies and propaganda is not. So for protesters to show up and be jerks (as you call them) is cancelled out by the propaganda by Gabby and Mark (who’s a complete phony). So it’s a tie.

      • SusanBeehler

        I didn’t know you were holding a contest and you are the judge. Just because someone may also have the right to belch in public does not mean it isn’t rude. These guys Marty Beard and Jamie Brecht, their buddy and child were acting like bullies and bullies are losing their right to bully, it is not “cool” . Lies and propaganda is also protected under the first amendment look at this is why Rob can do what he does and you turfdog can write what you want. What did Gabby say? What did Mark say? You don’t even know because turfdog you probably were not there unless you want to admit to being the other dude with Marty and Jamie? The first amendment rights is not a pass for bad behavior.

  • Say It

    The foul language here on this blog is inexcusable. Be North Dakota nice.

    • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

      Yeah, right, an awful lot of “North Dakota nice” people are mighty handy with a knife when your back is turned.

      • Tim Hines

        I’ve always felt a good rule of thumb is to meet or try to exceed the level of civility offered to you….

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

          The expression”Rule of thumb” derives from an old admonition not to beat your wife with a stick thicker than one’s thumb.

          • Tim Hines

            Very interesting trivia! I guess I’ve always been more interested in current events than historical origins, but that’s just me…..

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Believe me, it shows.

          • Tim Hines

            Not that I’m historically uninformed….I just feel the interpretation of it can be an unnecessary distraction that takes too much focus off a plan/path towards the future…..

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            “Those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat it.”—which is exactly what we are doing.

          • Tim Hines

            Yep, I know the quote….Fair enough…..

          • Tim Hines

            So, I guess just a little more “historical perspective” before the night ends. To tie it to our exchanges on the 4th of July thread, MY opinion is that what I sense your advocating/forecasting/longing for (insert your choice of verb here) would probably be more akin to the civil war, NOT the revolutionary…. And, at the risk of appearing too glaringly earnest….. That scares the crap out of me…..

          • Tim Hines

            So, I guess just a little more “historical perspective” before the night ends. To tie it to our exchanges on the 4th of July thread, MY opinion is that what I sense your advocating/forecasting/longing for (insert your choice of verb here) would probably be more akin to the civil war, NOT the revolutionary…. And, at the risk of appearing too glaringly earnest….. That scares the crap out of me…..

    • Say It

      We all have political, religious, etc. differences. If you want to debate and/or state your position fine. But remember that vulgar language turns people off.
      I have learned a few things on these blogs. Sort of widens my perspective on a few things. When someone uses vulgar language, that is a turn off.
      If you would not say certain words to your mother, then they are not appropriate in public either.

    • Geoff Bosse

      Ugh, all this foul language talk. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck…. Then why not call it a duck? I myself call it as I see it, if you don’t like it… STFU

  • http://rexcrouch.com/ Rex Crouch

    They need to move to Mexico where there is tight gun control.

    • LenYol

      Tight gun control???
      You can pick up one of those Fast/Furious Eric Holder specials pretty cheap.

  • DelawareBeachHouse

    A wide berth. BERTH. Not birth. I’ll spare us all the what could be ugly allusions.

  • kevindf

    These two people must have an irrational fear of losing their lifetime government checks.

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