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Monday, September 18, 2006

GF Taxes and Budgets:  Property Tax Bills

This is the second in a series on the taxes and budgets in Grand Forks.

In my last post (and first on this topic) I discussed the question of how your tax dollars were being split up among the county, city , school system and the park board. Today I want to discuss the next step; your actual tax bill.

In order to remain consistent I am going to continue to talk about properties from 2001 thru 2005. I went on the county's web site and pulled up five properties at random. I tried to pick a variety of neighborhoods in order to get a good cross section.

The first thing I did was check with my handy dandy inflation calculator. I found that $100 in 2001 was 108.45. So we could expect a 8.45% increase in taxes for inflation. .

As a whole the five properties valuation went up 25% while taxes went up 23%. Remember that if taxes only went up the rate of inflation taxes would have gone up 8.45%. They went up nearly three times that rate of inflation.

On my tax bill, special taxes for flood protection amounted to only 3.6% of the total bill in 2005. So our tax bills have been climbing twice as fast as the inflation and the flood protection combined. That rate of growth in government spending is unsustainable and we are starting to feel the pain.

From 2001 to 2005 we saw a lot of growth in the value of housing. Factors that would have led to that is the nationwide housing market, low interest rates, higher costs of housing construction, and perhaps housing being a safe place to put your money.

I don't see the fact that houses cost more as a reason for local governments to spend more. With real estate prices rising it's probably pretty easy for government leaders to leave the mill rates the same and spend the windfall tax revenues that result. That doesn't do the citizens of Grand Forks any good as they have to struggle to pay for higher housing, insurance and now property taxes.

Anyway, enough of that I want to break out the numbers and not go out of my way to make anyone look bad.

I included the details of the houses I used in the extended entries. You can find my first post GF Taxes and Budgets here.

My next story will deal with school district funding.

Here are the details on the five houses I selected for my sample. In order to keep the numbers straight I'll start with least expensive and move to most expensive:

I had a house on 9th Street South that was valued for $55,600 in 2001 that was valued at $75,700 in 2005. Taxes in that time went from $1,313, $1,758. That's a 36% increase in value and a 34% increase in taxes.

The second house as on 8th Ave N. That was revalued from $89,300 to $118,900. Taxes went from $2,085 to $2,714. That's an increase of 33% in valuation and 30% in taxes.

The third property was on Great Plains Court. The property was valued in 2001 at $100,055. By 2005 the value was set at $122,200. Taxes went from $2,344 to $2,791. Valuation went up 22% and taxes were up 19%.

The fourth property was Cherry Lynn Drive. The property went from $113,700 to $142,100. Taxes climbed from $2,667 to $3,277. That works out to 25% and 23%.

The final property was on Windward Hills. The property was valued at $169,600 in 2001 and $204,000 in 2005. Taxes went from $3,956 to $4,633. That's an increase of 20% in valuation and 18% in taxes paid.

Comments

TW ...

Gershman’s position of spending only the increase in added tax base ... how does that jive over the past four years?

If you add to that the caveat that you should (if you increase gov’t spending at all) increase gov’t spending at the rate of inflation ... seems to be resonable.

That is a poilicy I can support at the state level.  Spend an increase in revenue.  Use increasing tax base to support an inflation adjusted increase is state spending.  What is left over gets spent on one time expenditures (paying off bonds, Property Tax relief with coinciding mill levy cap decreases, etc.)

The real problem comes when you increase general fund gov’t spending (city, or state) at a plus inflation level.  There is no guarentee that those inflated tax revenues will continue.  Following this path will lead to automatic, built in tax increases. 

Are we on the same page?


We spent 45 years defeating the Marxists in the old Soviet Union.  Now, 18 years later we are electing a Marxist to lead our country .... nice!!!

gilbyguy on September 18, 2006 at 07:27 pm
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A point of clarification.

Are you saying that they should increase spending no more than a factor of inflation and increases in the tax base?

So if inflation were 3% and you have new real estate amounting to 2% of the tax base you would increase spending by 5%?

That seems reasonable to me as a ceiling.  However wouldn’t you expect to be able to factor in some efficiencies?  (efficiencies and government-Hah)

By the way I was watching a Milton Friedman interview yesterday on google vids. (Not the freedom to choose, drat).  This was in the late 90’s.  He said it was better to return the surplus rather than pay down debt.  He said that was because there would be too much political pressure to spend the money.  Hint Hint.

The Whistler on September 18, 2006 at 07:33 pm

I would prefer that they increase spending by no more that the increased base allows them.  Or by a reaonable amount of inflation (whichever is least!!!)

It should be only the first one.  If your case increases 3% because of good policy they should increase by that amount.

At the state level, with out increasing the tax rate, our increasing base has reward us with a $500 million balance, I still say increase go’vt spending by a moderate 3-4% per year.  Use the excess to pay down debt (read bonding) or for one timeexpenditures (Prison space) true property tax releif (with enforced constituiontal caps on mill rates). Or give it back.


We spent 45 years defeating the Marxists in the old Soviet Union.  Now, 18 years later we are electing a Marxist to lead our country .... nice!!!

gilbyguy on September 18, 2006 at 08:14 pm
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homeowners an average taxpayers have already a heavy tax burden , to increase it means to significantly cut on national spending, what good will come out of it?

Hypothyroidism on September 19, 2006 at 12:27 pm
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