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Wednesday, September 05, 2007


Germans Arrest Three Jihadists In Plot Against US Interests

And the war on terror rolls on…

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has arrested three men it suspects of planning “massive bomb attacks” on U.S. installations and belonging to a domestic cell of the Islamic Jihad militant group, German officials said on Wednesday.

Federal prosecutor Monika Harms told a news conference that the men, two German nationals and one Turk, had obtained enough materials to make a bomb with an explosive power equal to 550-kilogrammes of TNT and that an attack appeared imminent.

“Thanks to the cooperation of federal and local police over several months we were able to discover and pursue the planning and preparation and in the end prevent massive bomb attacks,” Harms told a news conference.

Harms said she could not confirm reports that the accused were targeting the Frankfurt airport and U.S. military base in Ramstein, but said they had been observed scouting out U.S. installations such as discos, pubs, or airports.

News of the arrests comes a day after Danish police conducted raids and took into custody eight young Muslims they suspect of plotting a bomb attack and having links to al Qaeda.

Reports of arrests like this one are almost becoming…routine.  Every month or two we hear of a new plot foiled by intelligence and law enforcement agents, and it’s gratifying to know that they’re able to stop stuff like this.  But it’s worth remembering that as good as our intelligence is, and as good as our cops are at stopping these people, if we don’t do something about the hateful ideology that is driving them to attempt these plots eventually one of them is going to work.

And when it does anywhere from dozens (like in the UK train bombings) to hundreds (like in the Madrid bombings) to thousands (9/11) will die.

This is why the mission in Iraq is so important.  If we complete our mission the end result is a nation with a representative government in the middle of the middle east that has friendly military ties with us.  That not only creates shockwaves of support for democracy in that oppressed region, it also gives us good tactical position from which to address other threats in the middle east.

I know nobody wants to hear it, but if we truly want to combat the Islamic radicalism that is the driving force behind all these terror plots around the globe we are going to have to have boots on the ground in the middle east for at least the next decade.  We need to either accept that, or just resign ourselves to the reality of there being nothing more than a “thin blue line” of law enforcement between ourselves and terrorism.

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Comments

They trained in Pakistan, stayed over and did a little shopping in Dubai, lunch in Riyadh, little R&R on a beach in Israel before hopping on a plane to Berlin.


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Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on September 5, 2007 at 07:02 am
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We invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam.  We’ve poured on the order of half a trillion dollars into the effort.  Thousands of our young men and women have sacrificed their lives.  Tens of thousands have been wounded.  And yet worldwide terrorism has been on the rise.

As the NIE pointed out, the massive US military force occupying a muslim country in the heart of the Middle East has been a “cause celebre” for islamic terrorists worldwide.

Bush’s military occupation of Iraq does nothing to prevent or discourage plots like this one. It inspires them.  Plus, Iraq has become the ultimate terrorist training camp, much like the Russian occupation of Afghanistan trained the first generatation of Al Qaeda.  The terrorist techniques being practiced, perfected, and taught on a daily basis in Iraq are spreading to Afghanistan and will likely continue to spread.

Will on September 5, 2007 at 08:12 am

And yet worldwide terrorism has been on the rise.

Any figures to back that up?  It’s much more likely to be increased news coverage of terrorism to serve the hateful purpose of BDS.  Fighting terrorism was long overdue when President Bush finally stepped up to the plate, and he is experiencing the consequences of the softness on terrorism practiced by both Clinton and Carter.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 5, 2007 at 08:33 am

It’s interesting to see that two lefties want to spin this good news into bad news.  Catching terrorists is vitally necessary, and shouldn’t be minimized in importance.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 5, 2007 at 08:35 am
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Any figures to back that up?  It’s much more likely to be increased news coverage of terrorism ...

Sure:

Our study shows that the Iraq War has generated a stunning sevenfold increase in the yearly rate of fatal jihadist attacks, amounting to literally hundreds of additional terrorist attacks and thousands of civilian lives lost; even when terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan is excluded, fatal attacks in the rest of the world have increased by more than one-third.

Will on September 5, 2007 at 11:23 am
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I think if we had not invaded Iraq, the increased terrorist activity would be called ‘The Afghanistan Effect.’  I don’t think anything will stop the outraging except democratic president in 2008.

FlyOnTheWall on September 5, 2007 at 01:22 pm

Will:

Bush’s military occupation of Iraq does nothing to prevent or discourage plots like this one. It inspires them.  Plus, Iraq has become the ultimate terrorist training camp, much like the Russian occupation of Afghanistan trained the first generatation of Al Qaeda.  The terrorist techniques being practiced, perfected, and taught on a daily basis in Iraq are spreading to Afghanistan and will likely continue to spread.

Excellent point, Will!  We’d be much safer if we just left these Muslims terrorists alone.  It’s not like there was even a single attack on US interests before we wantonly invaded Iraq, right?  Also, if we don’t attack them, they’d get really confused, and wouldn’t know what to do in their terrorist training camps.

LOL.  You are a real hoot sometimes.

Carrick on September 5, 2007 at 01:29 pm

Will:

Our study shows that the Iraq War has generated a stunning sevenfold increase in the yearly rate of fatal jihadist attacks, amounting to literally hundreds of additional terrorist attacks and thousands of civilian lives lost; even when terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan is excluded, fatal attacks in the rest of the world have increased by more than one-third.

I thought you were a bit brighter than to read Mother Jones, but heh.

If the numbers are to mean any thing, you’d have to compare attacks before the Iraq invasion to post Iraq.  Obviously there’s been an upwards trend, so we’d like to know what effect the Iraq War has had on Islamic terrorism.

In any case, Islamic extremism really started in showing up worldwide in the 1880s, so trying to lay the blame on any one action, whether the US invasion of Iraq or the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, is really being pretty blind to history.

Carrick on September 5, 2007 at 01:35 pm

I like how these leftist leaning people try to blame the USA for being almost attacked. Not the fact that the terrorists are the ones that are wrong. What a great religion.


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goon on September 5, 2007 at 04:37 pm

Our study shows that the Iraq War has generated a stunning sevenfold increase in the yearly rate of fatal jihadist attacks, amounting to literally hundreds of additional terrorist attacks and thousands of civilian lives lost; even when terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan is excluded, fatal attacks in the rest of the world have increased by more than one-third.

Here is the essence of leftieism distilled into one confused paragraph.  If Will is to be believed, we make terrorism worse by fighting it, so by that logic, we would make it better by not fighting it.  Besides the fact that what he says is idiotic, it is the way of the coward, who hides his head in the sand, hoping the bad guys will just go away and kill somebody else.  Cowardice is not only not the solution, it’s the disease.  If these animals(the jihadis) had been thoroughly slapped down the first time they tried their murderous crap, we wouldn’t have to deal with them today.  If we had crushed Saddam in 1991, Iraq would be a functioning country today.  All of the violence today is cause by the cowardice of Carter and Clinton.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 5, 2007 at 09:58 pm

Bush’s military occupation of Iraq does nothing to prevent or discourage plots like this one. It inspires them. 

A more accurate version is:

Leftist opposition to the war in Iraq does nothing to prevent or discourage plots like this one. It inspires them

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One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability to make utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack Obama has that talent. We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes into which other countries have been led by leaders with that same charismatic talent.
-Thomas Sowell

docdave on September 6, 2007 at 01:36 am
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