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Thursday, December 28, 2006

Gerald Ford Speaks From The Grave, Criticizes Bush On Iraq

Gerald Ford’s death turns political as the big news today is about an interview of the former President by Bob Woodward conducted in 2004 with the understanding that it would be embargoed until after Ford’s death.

Here’s the crux of Ford’s comments about Iraq:

Former president Gerald R. Ford said in an embargoed interview in July 2004 that the Iraq war was not justified. “I don’t think I would have gone to war,” he said a little more than a year after President Bush launched the invasion advocated and carried out by prominent veterans of Ford’s own administration.

In a four-hour conversation at his house in Beaver Creek, Colo., Ford “very strongly” disagreed with the current president’s justifications for invading Iraq and said he would have pushed alternatives, such as sanctions, much more vigorously. In the tape-recorded interview, Ford was critical not only of Bush but also of Vice President Cheney — Ford’s White House chief of staff — and then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who served as Ford’s chief of staff and then his Pentagon chief. “Rumsfeld and Cheney and the president made a big mistake in justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of mass destruction,” Ford said. “And now, I’ve never publicly said I thought they made a mistake, but I felt very strongly it was an error in how they should justify what they were going to do.”

I’d point out that it is very easy for Ford to say something like this some 17 months after the invasion of Iraq was complete and the truth about Saddam’s weapons capabilities was known as a fact.  It is very easy to say that you would have handled something a certain way when you know all the facts about that something after the fact.  Hindsight is, after all, 20/20.

Ford also had this to say about Bush’s rhetoric concerning the liberation of oppressed people around the world:

In a conversation that veered between the current realities of a war in the Middle East and the old complexities of the war in Vietnam whose bitter end he presided over as president, Ford took issue with the notion of the United States entering a conflict in service of the idea of spreading democracy.

“Well, I can understand the theory of wanting to free people,” Ford said, referring to Bush’s assertion that the United States has a “duty to free people.” But the former president said he was skeptical “whether you can detach that from the obligation number one, of what’s in our national interest.” He added: “And I just don’t think we should go hellfire damnation around the globe freeing people, unless it is directly related to our own national security.”

I think Ford either fails to understand fully Bush’s decision to go to Iraq or is engaging in a bit of willful ignorance here.  Invading Iraq to liberate the people there was a part of why we invaded.  The other, more important part was that we believed (thanks to intelligence we now know to be faulty) Iraq to be a threat to the security of this country.  And in so far as Iraq was sponsoring international terrorism and harboring terrorists involved in plotting attacks against the west, Saddam’s regime was a threat.  President Bush’s statement concerning America’s “duty to free people” doesn’t necessarily mean the use of our military to topple dictators and other cruel regimes around the world.  I think Secretary Rice put it better when she said that American policy should “support the aspirations of all free people.” This means, simply, that America should refuse to cooperate or even tolerate regimes that are totalitarian or oppressive in nature and that we should fight against them with diplomacy, and military power if necessary.

I really have to wonder if Ford, put in the same situation Bush was in after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan with the director of the CIA saying that Iraq had WMD’s and was a threat to the U.S., wouldn’t have made the same decision Bush did.  Which is the whole problem with this interview in the first place.  I’m not a real big fan of former Presidents undermining the policies of current Presidents in the media, and I especially don’t like it when they do it from “beyond the grave” like this.  It seems...almost cowardly to level this sort of criticism with the understanding that it won’t be made public until after you’re gone and are unable to answer for it or expand on it. 

Seems like a cheap, parting shot.  Certainly something unworthy of a former President.

Update: The New York Daily News’ Thomas DeFrank has a different take on Ford’s opinion of the war in Iraq:

Ford was a few weeks shy of his 93rd birthday as we chatted for about 45 minutes. He’d been visited by President Bush three weeks earlier and said he’d told Bush he supported the war in Iraq but that the 43rd President had erred by staking the invasion on weapons of mass destruction.

“Saddam Hussein was an evil person and there was justification to get rid of him,” he observed, “but we shouldn’t have put the basis on weapons of mass destruction. That was a bad mistake. Where does [Bush] get his advice?”

This was actually a question I was going to raise earlier given this Ford quote from the Post article quoted above:

“Rumsfeld and Cheney and the president made a big mistake in justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of mass destruction,” Ford said. “And now, I’ve never publicly said I thought they made a mistake, but I felt very strongly it was an error in how they should justify what they were going to do.”

That sounds pretty clear to me like Ford was disagreeing with the way the Bush administration sold the war to the public and the world, not necessarily the reasoning for going to war itself.

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Doesn’t it seem just a bit fishy that the liar of all liars Bob Woodward comes up with this?  I mean didn’t he interview some bedridden comotose general and give a similar report?

I don’t believe him.

gene on December 28, 2006 at 04:17 pm

Bob Woodward has a rather suspicious habit of releasing his controversial “interviews” after the subject has assumed room temperature and is no longer capable of rebutting Woodward’s contentions.  Bill Casey comes first to mind, though there have been others.

NY Daily News Washington bureau chief Thomas DeFrank, who the paper claims interviewed the former President some three dozen times in his later retired years, offers a different view of Gerald Ford’s take on President George Bush and the invasion of Iraq here.

He’d been visited by President Bush three weeks earlier and said he’d told Bush he supported the war in Iraq but that the 43rd President had erred by staking the invasion on weapons of mass destruction.

“Saddam Hussein was an evil person and there was justification to get rid of him,” he observed, “but we shouldn’t have put the basis on weapons of mass destruction. That was a bad mistake.”

Of course, in the final analysis it really doesn’t matter very much what Gerald Ford thought of the overthrow of Saddam.  (Or Jimmy Carter either, come to think of it.) Heaven knows, Woodward and the rest of the Left paid him little attention when he was alive… except to vilify him for his pardon of Richard Nixon.

So in the end, this is little more than a cynical attempt by Woodward to gather up some additional liberal coup by trading on the publicity of President Ford’s death without bothering to wait til the man’s been properly buried.


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Bat One on December 28, 2006 at 04:24 pm

I want to hear the entire interveiw, uncut or edited. Till then I don’t believe a single word Woodward has to say.


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2Hotel9 on December 29, 2006 at 06:14 am
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I don’t understand the big deal.

Ford was a college activist that promoted the Neutrality Act of 1939 to keep us out of WWII and involved in the America First Committee.

He was an isolationist, as Repubulicans used to be.

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He was an isolationist.  His comments about America not going around the world to liberate people being a bad idea proves that.

But I do think his comments per Iraq are being misrepresented.


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Rob on December 29, 2006 at 10:11 am
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You are right his comments are being misrepresented by a media that love the chance to use a former Republican President’s words against the current Republican President - and nothing more.

That said, most everyone that came of age between the World Wars was/is isolationist.  WWI devistated the previous “lost generation” and it was the Republican Party that kept us out of WWII for so long.

The media won’t put his statement into the context of his life experience, without that context they can just make it seem like he’s going after Bush.

FreeRepublicans.com on December 29, 2006 at 11:01 am
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Read this:

“Ford selected George H. W. Bush to be his liaison to the People’s Republic of China in 1974 and then Director of the Central Intelligence Agency in late 1975.[36]

Ford’s transition chairman and first Chief of Staff was former congressman and ambassador Donald Rumsfeld. In 1975, Rumsfeld was named by Ford as the youngest-ever Secretary of Defense. Ford chose a young Wyoming politician, Richard Cheney, to replace Rumsfeld as his new Chief of Staff and later campaign manager for Ford’s 1976 presidential campaign.[37] Ford’s dramatic reorganization of his Cabinet in the fall of 1975 has been referred to by political commentators as The “Halloween Massacre."”

Thanks, Wikipedia.  So, it turns out that the major players in the Bush administration have their roots in the glorious presidency of Gerald Ford.  Considering that this post questions Ford’s criticism of an administration for which he is largely responsible, is this not pertinent information?  Maybe the author of this post should have mentioned this before or after he critized Ford’s statement that

“Rumsfeld and Cheney and the president made a big mistake in justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of mass destruction,” Ford said. “And now, I’ve never publicly said I thought they made a mistake, but I felt very strongly it was an error in how they should justify what they were going to do.”

Maybe the author knew these things and assumed that this was common knowledge.  Maybe I should have know them myself.  It just seems sort of, what’s the word, relevant? 

And please, don’t try to pull others down with you as you fall.  Gerald Ford would never have invaded Iraq.  He would have asked, “Why?  What’s the point?  Isn’t Saddam contained?  What would this accomplish?”

This war is destroying our country.  Thanks, guys.

Steve on December 30, 2006 at 09:04 pm

Steve: And Chamberlain “contained” Hitler; so what?  At least we didn’t make the same mistake this time.  Good for us!


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robert108 on December 30, 2006 at 09:34 pm
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You know, robert108, you are right.  Had we not intervened, France would be ceding control of its nation to the powerful armies controlled by Saddam as we speak.  And then we would have no choice but to save their asses again, despite their frenchyness.  Otherwise, Saddam and his awesome post ‘91 military with its awesome capabilities would have taken over the world. 

Freedom fries, anyone?

Steve on December 30, 2006 at 10:17 pm

No one thought much of Hitler in 1933, either, but if someone had read “Mein Kampf” and had taken it seriously, great misery might have been avoided.  It’s always easy to see something after it has happened, but it takes vision and courage to act before the tragedy.  I give GW props for doing that, after 8 years of Clinton ignoring world terrorism.  It’s not just taking down Saddam, but it’s taking a strong stand against Islamic terrorism, for the first time.  It should have been done sooner, but at least it’s being done now.


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robert108 on December 30, 2006 at 11:16 pm

Steve,

Try to stick to the straightforward stuff.  You really aren’t much good at sarcasm.


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Bat One on December 30, 2006 at 11:42 pm
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