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Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Fred Wins Poll Of Conservatives At Human Events

And handily, I might add.

Human Events’ presidential preference poll of American conservatives found that former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson leads the competition for conservative support with 23% of the participants selecting him over the other candidates. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee tied for second with 19%, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in third at 13% and Arizona Sen. John McCain — in what is probably a direct result of his stance on amnesty for illegal aliens — came in dead last at 2.1%.

There are good reasons for this result.  Thompson is, quite simply, the most consistently conservative candidate in this race.  And while upper-crust Republicans seem to be more concerned about just winning than finding someone who will lead with conviction and principle, the base wants said conviction and principle.

Thompson is the guy to provide that, and hopefully it will be born out in the results of the primaries.

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Yawn.

Too bad he is getting slaughetered in Iowa (down 19 to Romney), New Hampshire (down 25 to Romney) and South Carolina (down 19 to Romney).

I guess not many of the people in that poll live in those states?

Here is the serious question.  After Thompson gets HAMMERED in the first three major contests for the nomination, will anyone care about him?

Someone somewhere apparently digs Thompson, but unfortunately for him, the cavalry is going to arrive a bit late.

Bill Mitchell on October 30, 2007 at 03:28 pm
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Bill, how much does being Romney’s spam bot pay?


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Rob on October 30, 2007 at 03:40 pm
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And can we pulease stop with this “consistently conservative” mantra?  Who, among the Republican leaders, has lead the most conservative lifestyle?

Don’t even need to answer because you know and it ain’t Thompson.

Thompson also refused to promise not to raise taxes.  Forgive me if I am missing something, but that sounds “inconsistent” to me.

If the “consistent conservative” drumbeat is just about abortion, well, all I can say is Ronald Reagan. Forgive me if I don’t want to vote for someone without any experience for the job just because he has always been against abortion.

MY CHALLENGE TO FRED-HEADS:
That being said, can someone list 5 THINGS THAT THOMPSON HAS DONE IN HIS CAREER THAT QUALIFY HIM TO BE THE NATIONS CHIEF EXECUTIVE?

Please list the cities or states he has goverened, the businesses he has run, the major laws he has authored, the cabinets he has appointed, the millions of lives he has safe-guarded, the billion-dollar budgets for which he has been responsible, or anything for that matter that a chief executive does?

I won’t hold my breath.  I’ve made this same challenge at several other blogs and still haven’t gotten qualification #1.

Bill Mitchell on October 30, 2007 at 03:42 pm
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Rob,

Was anything I said incorrect?

But to answer your question - it pays better than being a Thompson Spam Bot, and that’s why I drive a nicer car than you.

Bill Mitchell on October 30, 2007 at 03:44 pm
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Thompson spam bot?

Hardly.  I just support the guy, and do so from my own blog instead of filling the comments sections of other people’s blogs.

But you’re welcome here anyway.


The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

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Rob on October 30, 2007 at 03:50 pm
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Rob,

You write articles positive about Thompson an it is merely support.  I make posts positive about Romney and it is spam?

BTW, I am waiting on your list of Thompson’s qualifications for the Whitehouse.

I am just amazed how I have asked that same question on 10 blogs now and I still haven’t gotten one qualification from a single Fred supporter.

I mean ask me the same question about Mitt and I could give you 10 right off the top of my head.

As a matter of fact, I bet YOU could list more qualifications that Mitt has to be President than Fred does.

Bill Mitchell on October 31, 2007 at 01:09 am

Bill Mitchell:

I have asked that same question on 10 blogs now and I still haven’t gotten one qualification from a single Fred supporter.

But then, you have a bad habit of asking questions and running away before you hear the answer.
Speaking of running away...Are you ever going to answer the questsion about your slur on war hero John McCain?
(It’s only been about twenty-four hours from your last post-and-run!



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on October 31, 2007 at 02:42 am

(Crickets continue to chirp!)



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on October 31, 2007 at 02:44 am

I am waiting on your list of Thompson’s qualifications for the Whitehouse

Hey, mitch, it seems to me that he is as qualified as anyone.  Our constitution puts no restriction on who can run for the presidency except for age, residency and citizenship.  Why should you presume otherwise?


Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

docdave on October 31, 2007 at 04:56 am

And can we pulease stop with this “consistently conservative” mantra?

Why, because it kicks Romney in the ass every time it’s brought up?


""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”

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Hoss on October 31, 2007 at 07:35 am

I thought if I gave him another twelve hours or so to grow a spine, that lil’ Billy Mitchell might respond to his use of the John McCain slur. (Sigh!) Guess not!



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on October 31, 2007 at 06:18 pm

Let’s recap: Oct 19th: Bill ADD Mitchell said:

The thing I find annoying of late is the overuse and thus dumbing down of the term, “Hero”.
For example, John McCain is often referred to as a “war hero”.
Um, what did John McCain do during the Vietnam War that was heroic?  Well, he was a prisoner of war.  That makes him unfortunate, not heroic.

A little more than two hours later, he was shown evidence to the contrary.  A Google search took 0.09 seconds and turned up over two million hits - one was wikipedia. It revealed, among other things:

On October 26, 1967, McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile, landing in North Vietnam’s Truc Bach Lake, near Hanoi. McCain broke both arms and a leg after ejecting from his plane. After he regained consciousness, a mob gathered around him, spat on him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was then tortured by soldiers from North Vietnam, who crushed his shoulder with the butt of a rifle and bayoneted him in his left foot and abdominal area. He was then transported to the infamous Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

Once McCain arrived at the prison, he was placed in a cell and interrogated daily. When McCain refused to provide any information to his captors, he was beaten until he lost consciousness.

When it was discovered his father was the Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command, (CINCPAC), commander of all U.S. forces in Vietnam, he was offered a chance to return home. McCain turned down the offer of repatriation due to his belief in the principle of “first in, first out”: he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.

During his military career, he received a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, the Legion of Merit, the Purple Heart, and a Distinguished Flying Cross.

Three days after being corrected, troll for hire Bill Mitchell repeated the same slur on another thread.(some people are really slow learners!):

I’m sorry, but JOHN MCCAIN IS NOT A HERO!
For God’s sake.  I am sick of hearing this!  John McCain was a Prisoner of War during Vietnam.  That makes him “unfortunate”, it does NOT make him a hero.

This was at 9:34 PM. on Oct 21

Billy, Billy, Billy! Why do you constantly denigrate John McCain’s war record? Is your candidate so weak you are threatened by any mention of McCain’s heroic past?

McCain isn’t even my guy! But your attempts at character assassination are pathetic and mean spirited!
Are you too ashamed to stand up for what you said? Or aren’t you paid enough to do that?



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on October 31, 2007 at 08:16 pm

In summary: Twelve days ago, Bill “I have no integrity” Mitchell, was challenged to defend his assertion that John McCain was not a war hero. Twelve freaking days, Bill!
Rat got your tongue?



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on October 31, 2007 at 08:20 pm

I have never met either John McCain or Mitt Romney, although I do have a long ago connection with McCain’s shoot down over the North.

Still, Having watched both men on TV, and read quite a bit about each of them, I’d be willing to bet (any odds you care to name) that Governor Romney has more than enough integrity and class to disavow the sort of hateful slurs and outright lies thrown about by Bill Mitchell here.  Fact is, I’d bet than even the Democrat candidates would acknowledge John McCain’s heroism as well.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 31, 2007 at 09:40 pm

I won’t hold my breath.  I’ve made this same challenge at several other blogs and still haven’t gotten qualification #1.

And run away after asking each time because you don’t like the answer??
Bill Puckey!

Fact is, I’d bet than even the Democrat candidates would acknowledge John McCain’s heroism as well.

B1: Bill Puckey is so blinded By devotion (or a pay check) that he cannot acknowledge the truth, even when we rub his little brown nose in it!



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on November 1, 2007 at 05:41 pm

Proof,

I can’t imagine that any of the serious candidates for president, on either side of the partisan aisle, would tolerate a supporter who would disparage the heroism of any POW… never mind one who was held in captivity and tortured for 7 years.

Hell, that’s longer than certain of these “commenters” have been out of training pants.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on November 1, 2007 at 05:48 pm

I’m sure that Millie Bitch’ll be here any second to defend his slurs! Any...second...now!



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on November 1, 2007 at 06:14 pm
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