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If we don’t choose Thompson we get stuck with Mitt “Socialized Medicine” Romney or Mike “Tax Hikes” Huckabee, mostly because they said the right things on religion.

I swear I don’t know why you think criticizing people that prefer Christian candidates is a very good way to win voters for the Fred Thompson cause! What should Christians do, vote only for atheist, secular humanist candidates and not Christian candidates?

I am sorry Rob but to me your approach to this matter is wholly counterproductive! It sounds a lot like the Paulites, they want Ron Paul to win and then they speak quite rudely to anyone not accepting their views and their candidates. Quite rightly, many people and I think that includes you, said they were not doing the Ron Paul candidacy any good by this approach; and yet I feel you are following the same pattern by speaking rudely to and about Christian voters that are unwilling at this early stage to support Thompson.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Why are Christian voters unwilling to vote for Thompson? Did he burn down a church or something? Let me clue some people in, Mike Huckabee has zero chance of becoming president, sure he flatters when he says Jesus is too smart to have gone into politics but the issue is that he is a democrat in conservative clothing, just because he is religious wont make me forget that he is not a true conservative (in every way but the social kind). Fred has an ironclad stance on almost everything, I would dismiss Mike Huckabee before I would a Thompson.

It isn’t that they won’t vote for Thompson at all, I am an evangelical Christian and I would vote for him. But, in our busy world sound bites and emotional appeals carry a lot of weight with voters. That is why Thompson must close the sale with all conservatives, by making his voting record vs Huckabee’s clear and making appeals directly to Christian conservatives.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

I swear I don’t know why you think criticizing people that prefer Christian candidates is a very good way to win voters for the Fred Thompson cause!

You’re unreasonable. Fred Thompson IS a Christian.

You spend so much time attributing false hatred of Christianity to people while playing Internet psychologist that you’re missing the fact that we’re endorsing a Christian candidate. The difference is, and one that you’ve been missing, that Thompson isn’t running on Christianity. He’s actually sticking to the issues.

Romney and Huckabee seem to be using their religion as a smokescreen. Their records aren’t pretty, but talking about their religion has so far drawn in the base.

That criticism, contrary to your claims, isn’t a slam against Christianity.

I swear I don’t know why you think criticizing people that prefer political candidates is a very good way to win voters for the Christian cause! (Apply your own lessons.)

This is where you typically label my comment “hate filled rhetoric”.

You have a severe reading handicap. I have said under many threads I DO NOT support Huckabee and I DO support Thompson. I never said nor implied Fred was not a Christian. You are arguing against yourself, not me.

When negative comments are constantly made denigrating the idea that Christian might make their choices based upon their faith and insisting they will not support candidates on all the issues is insulting and counter productive CRITICISM!

This anti-Christian method of debate is chosen solely to divide the Party along Christian and non-Christian lines, providing an easy escape goat if the republican Party loses the White House next year and it will only insure Democrat victory in 2008. It is not done in a desire to unite or in love as it portrays Christians as less intelligent and, yes, according to scripture that is the definition of hate! Of course, atheists and agnostics don’t believe in Scripture and therefore the truth of this matter is of absolutely no concern to them.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Y’all neocons just can’t quite find the perfect “Reagan” candidate can you? Fred Thompson is nothing more than a bag of dead meat, both in looks and charisma. You would think as an actor, he would at least be able to “act” like a presidential candidate.

"Except that it seems conservatives have gotten lost in a haze of religion talk (which is really not pertinent)”

The Republican party has been lost in a haze of religious talk since the Moral Majority installed Reagan as their Christian Taliban leader in 1980. The Republican party has never been conservative in the true sense of the word. Since the 1960’s they have been nothing more than the old southern confederacy reborn, controlled by religious fascists, white supremacist fascists, and corporate fascists.

Fred Thompson all-in in Iowa means only one thing.  Romney gets a free surrogate to beat up Huckabee for him.

Thanks Fred.

Pat,

Fred has everything necessary to get the nomination except for Executive Experience.  He has NONE.  In the last 50 years, America has elected only ONE man (Kennedy) who was not a Governor or former-VP.  And Kennedy barely won.

Even though many in this blog see Executive Experience as a “straw man” (which is just funny to me), apparently America thinks Executive Experience IS important, at least historically speaking.

As I said before, if Thompson had actually served as a Conservative Governor, I believe he very well might have won the nomination.  He just isn’t a dynamic enough guy to overcome his lack of experience in people’s minds.

"Monday, December 17th” There’s the problem with Fred Thompson’s campaign and his credibility. He was the last one to get going as a nominee in the summer, he blew off the Florida GOP with an indifferent 5 minute speech on nothing, he looks tired and lack-lustre on TV debates and now - with a few weeks to go - By Golly! Fred is in it all the way!! Maybe his campaign slogan should be ‘Never Ready Freddy’. I like Thompson, but no wonder he is so far behind in the polls.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“As a conservative, I will not be overly enthusiastic about voting for John McCain on November 4 - but I will be sprinting to the polling place to do so!”
Matthew May, conservative commentator, The American Spectator

Since the 1960’s they have been nothing more than the old southern confederacy reborn

lol
Read your history for once and learn who they REALLY were!

That’s right, Democrats.

Fred is doing just fine. Now watch him work it his way.

It must be horrible to be a Democrat and have everything riding on Hilley Clinton! She’s about one good gotcha from melting down!

Read your history for once and learn who they REALLY were!

That’s right, Democrats.

Does history tell us to which party those dixiecrats now claim allegiance?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

Fred needs a lot of VIAGRA to go “all in”.
His HMO does not permit dispensing erectile disfunction pills. Thus he will be left behind in the primaries like a wilted dick.

e, you buy your husband viagra in bulk, so you have no room to talk.

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e, you buy your husband viagra in bulk, so you have no room to talk.
2Hotel9 on December 8, 2007 at 05:48 pm

Dahling 2Hotel9 you are so observant.
Did I sent you yours this month?

I luvs you too, schmoopy.

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It is interesting to note that when the evangelical vote was THE vote in 2000 and 2004 and the issues were gays guns and God, and were winning, no one on the R side was really complaining since you were winning elections on the evangelical vote.  Now comes 2008 and some in the R party are now complaining about the evangelicals voting their religious principles.  Now that Huckabee is gaining huge ground and is a threat to Romeny/Giuliani.  And Thompson, well,there are some who are positively apoplectic over his great candidacy and lackluster performance.  Now that Huckabee is a serious threat to getting the evangelical vote, some are questioning why are we talking so much about religious values voters.

I am reminded of the bible verse:  As you sow, so shall you reap.  For years, the republicans sowed the evangelicals and sowed the gays, guns and God values issues and now you are reaping with the evangelicals continuing to vote in the way they were sown.

When was the “evangelical vote” of any importance? Only in the drug induced hallucinations of the Democrat Party.

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Ok, if that’s what you want to believe. What flavor is your koolaid today?

I’m glad to hear this about Fred. Why in the world it’s taken him this long is beyond me.

Please to show us all these fanatical Christians. We would love to see it.

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2h9, if your comment was meant for me, I didn’t use the word “fanatical”, you did.  What I said was Rs concentrated on the evangelical vote using the gays, guns and God format. Now the evangelical are continuing to use it as is a certain candidate.  That’s what I said.  Nothing fanatical about it at all.  Just evangelicals doing what they were asked to do. Vote their values.

Still waiting for all that proof that all Republicans and Independents are fanatical fundamentalist Christians. Where it at?!?!?

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Who are you directing your question to, 2h9?

Who else?

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Neiman - *shrug* Perhaps one day you’ll be mature enough to stop attributing false hate. “The definition of hate” is quite different than what you believe it to be. Disagreement does not equal hate.

It’s not all about you Neiman. Nobody here is persecuting you.

Thanks for the insults. For a “man of God”, you sure lay them on thick.